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With dad at work all day, mom Kadi is a stays home with all 7 of her children. She loses her temper too much with her kids due to being so stressed out.
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00:00Well, I'm in the high desert of Hesperia, California.
00:04Let's take a look and see which family I'm going to help now.
00:06Hi, we're the Prescots. I'm Katie.
00:08And I'm Daniel, and we have seven kids.
00:10Marley is eight.
00:11Daniel is seven.
00:12Trenton is six.
00:13Philip is five.
00:15Aiden is three.
00:16Ella is two.
00:17And Reed is one.
00:18Look at this lovely big family. Look.
00:21Basically, we knew each other in high school.
00:23He was the cute, older, unattainable athlete,
00:26and I was the younger cheerleader,
00:28and I was very vain.
00:30Very into myself and didn't really want kids at that time.
00:33I didn't really ever think I would ever have kids.
00:35Wow, this mom went from a cheerleader of no kids
00:38to a mother of seven.
00:40Hmm, something happened there.
00:42I'm an asphalt paving estimator.
00:44I work five days a week,
00:46and I leave Katie home with all the children
00:48to fend for yourself.
00:51Right. I stay home with all the kids.
00:53God, baby!
00:55Daniel is our hard case.
00:57He's very aggressive.
01:00You know what?
01:01I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
01:04Daniel was diagnosed with ADHD.
01:06Daniel, honey, I need you to come and take your pill.
01:08These parents need to learn more about this son's condition.
01:12Marley is our big girl.
01:14She's our helper.
01:15I have depended on her so much,
01:17just being my everything.
01:19Marley, can you go check and see if Reed is still in his bed?
01:21Marley, do me a favor.
01:23Marley, can you get Ella's shoes for me?
01:24And Mars, after that, could you grab Reed?
01:26And you run out to the van?
01:27Could you run and put that in there?
01:28Marley, can you help him like I asked you?
01:29Marley, Marley, Marley, please?
01:31Look at this little girl, like a mini-mom.
01:35She's eight years old.
01:38Handling the seven kids alone during the day at home
01:41can be a great source of stress.
01:46Trenton, if you don't get off that counter right now,
01:49you're getting a butt whooping.
01:50When all of the kids decide to have a little moment all at once,
01:54it is extremely overwhelming.
01:56I just get so frustrated and angry.
02:10Get out!
02:12Get out of here.
02:13Get out!
02:14You are not putting a timer on.
02:16Stop touching people!
02:19Look at me right now.
02:21No!
02:21Get up now.
02:23You're pissing me off.
02:24Do it now.
02:25She's not enjoying motherhood right now.
02:28No way.
02:28I'm having a moment.
02:29I just need you to go away for a minute, okay?
02:31Just leave me alone up here.
02:32Nanny, please come.
02:33Please help us.
02:34We need you.
02:35Hurry, super nanny.
02:37Hang on, Mom and Dad.
02:38I'm on my way.
02:39I'll see you soon.
02:48Hello.
02:49Hello!
02:50Hi, pleased to meet you.
02:51I'm Jo.
02:52I'm Katie.
02:53It's nice to meet you.
02:54Come on in.
02:55This is the biggest family that I've ever worked with, but I'm certainly up for the challenge
02:59of helping them.
03:00It's so good to have you here.
03:01Come on in.
03:01Who have we got here?
03:03This is Reed.
03:03Who's the one?
03:04This is Reed.
03:05Hi, Reed.
03:05And how old is Reed?
03:06Reed is one.
03:07It was definitely a big thing for me personally to have Jo see, you know, what it is to be
03:13the mother of seven children and try to do it effectively.
03:15What's your name?
03:16Marley.
03:17Hi, Marley.
03:17Pleased to meet you.
03:18How old are you, darling?
03:19I'm eight.
03:20Eight.
03:20This is Daniel.
03:21Hi, Daniel.
03:22Hi.
03:23Pleased to meet you.
03:24Jo Jo, how are you doing?
03:25Good.
03:26Since Dad was at work, I really wanted to see Mom go through her everyday normal routine.
03:30What I'm going to do is I'm going to just watch how you run your own day, really.
03:36Okay.
03:36Okay.
03:42A couple of hours in, I saw exactly how Mom deals with Daniel's ADHD.
03:47I will help you.
03:48You need to ask me.
03:48No, you won't.
03:49I can't read your mind.
03:50I don't know if you need help.
03:52You need to ask.
03:56ADHD affects 4 to 12% of school-aged children.
03:59So, this is an issue that many families are dealing with.
04:02Start doing it now.
04:03I need help.
04:04Children of ADHD have a chemical imbalance, which makes it really difficult for them to
04:10focus on tasks.
04:11Also, they can be really hyper and have a tendency to be very compative.
04:16Where is A?
04:17Where is A?
04:18There.
04:19Okay.
04:20You know what?
04:21Your attitude really sucks right now.
04:22You are ruining fun time.
04:24No!
04:25It's going to take an hour, so what are we going to do?
04:28Raising one kid with ADHD is tough enough, but then having to raise six others is a real
04:33handful.
04:34Daniel's anger escalates to the point where he then becomes physical and he throws things.
04:39No!
04:40Then not at all.
04:42I hate you.
04:44Go to your room.
04:45Shut up!
04:46Go to your room.
04:47When I'm in the middle of disciplining a child, I feel like even though Joe is watching, I
04:53have to do what I'm doing.
04:55If the parents are frustrated during the day and have lost their patience, Daniel's that
05:03green light that goes off and they see him as an excuse to vent out.
05:07I need you at that table now and I will not tell you again and I will not ask you again.
05:14You get your fanny to that table and you get started on the work.
05:16No, Tyler!
05:17Hey!
05:18I'd like to see mum more relaxed and patient when dealing with Daniel's temperament.
05:24Because when she gets really worked up, it only makes Daniel's temperament worse.
05:32Do me a favor, would you please?
05:33Would you find Reed's shoe?
05:35Can you find Reed's shoe for me?
05:36Please.
05:37Just look around.
05:38It's somewhere around here.
05:40The first thing I wanted to look for was how mum handles such a large brood of kids.
05:45Marley, can you go give Daniel his spelling test?
05:47It's turned upside down under his homework packet.
05:51Marley, can you handle that?
05:52Will I go find Philip?
05:55It's really tough for mum to deal with all these kids.
05:57So she needs Marley to be mini-mum to help her.
06:01Marley, can you let Aiden outside, please?
06:04It's a very common practice for firstborns to have the responsibility of looking after
06:10all their younger siblings.
06:12Run and grab Reed's zipper cup from the bedroom out of his crib.
06:15Marley is the oldest child, which leads to mum putting pressure on her.
06:19I'll do this for you.
06:21Can you go?
06:22No.
06:23Just give that to him for me, please.
06:24Okay.
06:26Honey!
06:27I'm flipping you off.
06:28It's like flipping off the towel.
06:29Stop talking about flipping people off!
06:32Stop it!
06:34It's rude!
06:35Katie's so tightly wound up that she's losing her temper and overreacts with the kids that
06:41something's got to change.
06:44Stop it!
06:45What's going on?
06:46Whilst Katie was getting the kids under control, I was looking in her closet.
06:53I noticed all of the rah-rah stuff.
06:55I keep them.
06:56It's one thing to keep your costume because you love your costume, you know?
07:01But that's not the reason why mum holds onto that.
07:03What do you remember when you look at this?
07:05Fun.
07:06Having fun.
07:07It was so much fun for me.
07:08It was such a positive experience.
07:10They do represent a time that is long gone now that I had my own identity.
07:17This is what helped me really, I think, get through when my parents got divorced because
07:21I was in high school when it happened and this was my outlet.
07:24There was a lot to be said symbolically what these costumes represent for mum.
07:28So, are they symbolic?
07:31Um, maybe in some way they are, yeah.
07:35Yeah.
07:40Talking to Katie about her cheerleading days made me realise how young she was when she
07:46started a family.
07:47I was interested to find out about Katie's childhood and what her relationship was like
07:52with her parents.
07:53Do you have a relationship with your mum and your dad now?
07:56Um, yes, I have a great relationship with my mum.
07:59She's one of my best friends.
08:01But your dad?
08:02I don't see him a lot.
08:04We have different views on his lifestyle and so I don't...
08:09What sort?
08:10What sort?
08:11He is homosexual.
08:12Right.
08:13And so, um, you know, Daniel and I, even though we frown upon that lifestyle, we accept
08:18and love him but it puts a strain on our relationship.
08:20Katie's father walked out when she was 13.
08:24She had felt betrayed and lied to because his truth of being a homosexual had come out.
08:30And that had shattered her family.
08:33The man in your life, your father, then chooses to leave.
08:39And the commitment with your mother is no longer there.
08:45But he didn't show commitment with you either, right?
08:49I feel the need to have my dad be an active part of my life and pursue a relationship with
08:56him.
08:57It was something that Daniel and I had discussed before.
09:00But there was always that, you know, restriction put on what I could allow because Daniel wasn't
09:06comfortable with that.
09:07And that went against his inner, you know, beliefs as to what is right.
09:12And he's very much a black and white thinker.
09:15And so when he was gone, it was just, you know, the stress of trying to survive with my
09:21mom.
09:22And so we were just kind of left to, you know, pretty much fend for ourselves.
09:26The fun and the joy was gone.
09:28How much have you moved on from that?
09:32Not much.
09:34Okay.
09:35Talking about my dad and getting that issue out in the open was extremely excruciating for
09:41me to do because that is not something that I normally talk about.
09:46Today was hands down the hardest thing that I've had to do in coming to terms with the
09:52whole situation.
09:53What do you miss?
09:56Having a dad.
09:57Katie's feeling really lonely and isolated as a parent.
10:01And emotionally, she's going through a lot of turmoil because her father left when she
10:06was very young, which is making her feel abandoned.
10:10You're not doing bad, are you?
10:16Family, seven kids.
10:18You are committed to one another in your strength of providing for your children.
10:26And that goes beyond.
10:29But even when the tough gets going, you muster through and deal with it the best that you
10:36can.
10:37And that's what we're here to talk about.
10:39The best that you can right now is in a place that's not ideally good.
10:45Right.
10:46So the first thing that I do want to talk to you about, Katie, is the tall order that you
10:51give yourself every day.
10:53You are so hard on yourself that you create drama where it's not necessary.
10:58You're nodding there.
10:59Do you feel the same?
11:00Sometimes.
11:01I try to tell her that I think she's doing a great job when she tells me she thinks she's
11:05failing them and I think she's doing a good job.
11:07You didn't even think about having kids and then made that decision to keep your husband
11:14happy because that's what he wanted.
11:20And the demands that you put on yourself are stopping your kids from just being.
11:30Just being kids.
11:31You know, I think your expectations for the kids are unrealistic.
11:35You know, let's talk about Marley.
11:37This little girl's carrying the weight of your problems and your problems on her shoulders.
11:42Too many.
11:43It wasn't her choice to be in a family of seven.
11:53It was your choice.
11:54And your choice of having a big family is your responsibility.
11:59It's not working.
12:02It's not working and it needs to change.
12:06It's changing.
12:07ADHD.
12:12Daniel diagnosed with this condition.
12:16Understanding Daniel's medical condition is so important for the pair of you.
12:21But you choose time and time again to forget that he has ADHD.
12:26That he's going to get hyperactive.
12:28It's not to say that it won't get better.
12:31But you forget.
12:33So you scream at him and you shout at him.
12:36All that does is create this defiancy in Daniel.
12:41It doesn't bring resolution.
12:44We have the desire to change it.
12:46Right.
12:47But we just don't have the knowledge of how.
12:49Life just happens and I just deal with it and on the very top level.
12:54Because you're too busy upholding the importance of everybody else's expectations.
13:03Instead of standing up and saying, I can only do what I can do.
13:08And that comes from a deep down insecurity of feeling that you will lose love that you had.
13:17I have to bring this up.
13:19Your father is so relevant in this.
13:26But you're not willing to accept the way he is.
13:32His sexuality has nothing to do with his ability to love his daughter.
13:37But his abandonment does.
13:38But if he's being pushed because he's being told that his sexuality does not belong in this home.
13:47Then how can he make that bridge as well?
13:50You're torn.
13:56You're torn because you love your father and you want to build a relationship with him.
14:03But you seek permission from your husband to do that.
14:09What is it? Say it.
14:13I need you to get over the having a problem with homosexuality.
14:18I need you to let it go.
14:20And you know I'm not happy about my dad's choice and I never will be.
14:24But what?
14:25But he's my dad.
14:26I'm what?
14:27I need him.
14:28I'm what?
14:32I'm what?
14:33I tell him.
14:34I'm what?
14:35I just need you to realize that he's my dad and I need you to respect it.
14:40And I need you to try not just to be cordial.
14:44I can try.
14:45Right?
14:53What is much needed in this house is fun.
14:57Alright?
14:58We need two parents to get stuck in hands-on, rolling on the floor with their kids
15:04and enjoying themselves.
15:06There's no reason why we can't really get going as soon as possible and change all of this.
15:11Alright, so should we get working?
15:13We'll go.
15:14Yes.
15:15Alright, because we've done some here but we've got a lot more to go.
15:18Okay.
15:22The next day I began teaching and the first order of business was to convince KD to take time out for herself.
15:29Which isn't easy when you've got seven kids.
15:32So I came up with a tall order chart to give her ideas about what she can do to limit her stress.
15:37Have a break.
15:38There are so many times I see you looking for things to do instead of recognizing that you should be giving yourself permission just to step down and just chill.
15:49Okay.
15:50Alright?
15:51Play, play and play.
15:52Alright?
15:53I want to see you do that.
15:54Enjoy the time that you have with the kids.
15:56Okay.
15:57And have fun.
15:58Be imaginative with them.
15:59Jump into their world.
16:00And that's enough.
16:01That's all your kids want.
16:02Right?
16:03Yeah.
16:04Just have fun.
16:06When Joe brought the tall order list with her, I looked at it and I thought,
16:10okay, these are things that I think I can do.
16:14Katie seemed receptive to the message that she needed to take time out for herself.
16:19But later on that day, she had the perfect opportunity to rest when the kids were playing with their toys.
16:25And she chose to worry about cleaning up.
16:28The toys are all over the place, but the kids are going to tidy up those toys at the end of the day.
16:32Okay?
16:33The most important thing is, you know, the kids are getting your time.
16:36And that is so important because that you can't, you can't replace.
16:40Yeah.
16:41It's true.
16:42I lost focus of those things that were on my tall order.
16:45And I found myself, once again, caught up in the moment.
16:48Alright, let's go.
16:49Yay!
16:54I could see that Katie was going to have a hard time changing her ways.
16:57So I came up with a symbolic way of teaching her the principles of letting go.
17:02So what you're going to do is put your hand through the Katie trap and you're going to take one of those balls and you're going to get it out.
17:09Okay.
17:10Do you want to see what you're holding on to?
17:14Fear.
17:16Fear.
17:17Hmm.
17:18You've been holding on to fear so tight for so long that you can't set yourself free.
17:24So the only way of setting yourself free is to do what?
17:27Let it go.
17:28Let it go.
17:29Exactly.
17:30Unrealistic expectations.
17:35Yeah, that one, frankly, I'm really glad to let go of because it was driving me nuts.
17:44I was just really tired of failing.
17:48So my point being is that sometimes when we hold on to things, we cheat ourselves.
17:55I could see that there was a real weight being taken off of Katie's shoulders as she made the first steps forward in having realistic expectations that were achievable.
18:06So she could start to feel good about herself and not feel like a failure because she's not.
18:11With mum committed to lighting up, it was now time to address Daniel's ADHD.
18:16And as soon as dad came home from work, he decided to put Daniel in a timeout.
18:21And I got the chance I needed.
18:23So stop for a minute.
18:24What happened?
18:25The pair of you are arguing.
18:26Come over here, Daniel, because both of them are welling away like fog horns is.
18:31Give me, give me here, give me here.
18:33What went on?
18:34No shouting.
18:35Stay calm.
18:36Nobody can understand you if you're shouting, OK?
18:39What happened?
18:40I was building like something and she was building something and then I had a little block and she took it from me.
18:50That's what's important I feel here for Daniel to feel like he's being heard because that leads to so much frustration.
18:56He becomes really impulsive with the rest of his siblings and then he lashes out and he's met with discipline that's very aggressive.
19:04Give each other a hug then and make up then, OK?
19:07And when he's spoken to correctly and respectfully and in a manner that doesn't threaten any kind of hostility with him, he responds really, really well.
19:17Stop.
19:18Before you're reactive to something, just stop and be responsible and go, right, I need to hear both sides.
19:23And be calm about it so that you take all the anger out of the situation because you're there purely just to listen.
19:30The way we approach Daniel's ADHD, I don't think we're doing the right thing.
19:37I think Jo was correct in what she was telling us.
19:43The next task for me was to get mum and dad to see each one of their children as individuals rather than one large pack.
19:51And I had two different ideas of how to accomplish that.
19:54OK, so look, this is what I want to show you.
19:57Hearts. Seven of them.
20:00Each day I want you to write something very positive about each one.
20:04And then what you're going to do is you're going to give them their hearts at dinner time.
20:08Oh, cool.
20:09And so using the hearts every dinner time allows mum to put a really nice, loving, positive message on that for each and every one of them.
20:18OK, Ella, there's yours. And there's Reed and Aiden and Phillip.
20:27Thank you, mom.
20:28It allows me to really say what I'm thinking and feeling and not being afraid to just put it out there.
20:34That's it. You were very responsible today.
20:40It says Phillip, you were very helpful today. Thank you. I love you, mom.
20:47Because you were a good helper.
20:49I love you, mom.
20:50I like the hearts because it makes us feel better about ourselves when our mom gives us good comments and stuff.
20:58Aiden, you are so fun to play on the swings with. And Reed says,
21:03Reed, I am so proud that you said lizard today. I love you, mom.
21:08Yeah, that's a big deal for him to say things like that.
21:11To hear that on a daily basis is going to be so good for their hearts and their little souls.
21:16Where's the three older ones? Can you come?
21:22The hearts idea is for mom to be positive about writing a little message for each child so that they get individual attention.
21:29Spreading the chores amongst the three eldest children takes the burden off Amali and it also allows the other children to share the chores equally.
21:39Okay, you're going to know what your chore is for the day because your initial will be pinned to one of the chores and placed onto the cork board.
21:53I thought that was a better idea because then my mom and dad didn't have to do a lot of work.
21:59I didn't have to do a lot of work and we all had a good amount of responsibilities.
22:04Also because you are the oldest, you will be privileged with good behaviour in staying up a little later too, over the weekends and maybe having sleepovers.
22:20I find it absolutely bizarre that Katie has been here for a year and hasn't even met any of her neighbours.
22:38And so I thought I'd venture outside her own doorstep and start to make some neighbour friends myself.
22:43These are your neighbours?
22:45Hi guys, nice to meet you all. Oh my gosh.
22:47I hold on to my old neighbourhood and the way we had it so much so that I really fight against making friends here.
22:56This lady's been living here for a year and still hasn't met any other mothers. As you can see, these are all mothers.
23:03It really showed me that, you know, there is a community and sometimes it just takes one person willing to step out of their comfort zone and say,
23:11Hey, you know, let's be friends. That's so funny. Well, come on in and make yourself at home.
23:18So Katie, this is for you. Mum to mum. Okay. This is all your mum's addresses and numbers in here.
23:26I gave Katie a mum to mum book so she could place the mother's addresses and telephone numbers in there to be able to identify the name to the face so that she'll know who she's inviting around.
23:35I'm really glad that you've come this afternoon because it just really shows you that in a neighbourhood there are so many other mums who are out doing the same thing that you guys are.
23:45It is challenging when you're at home with your kids. You want to know that you can pick up the phone and say, Hey, this is going on today. What's your advice?
23:52And to be able to support one another. And that really is crucial. Keep in touch with one another. Ring one another. Support one another. You're all women raising children.
24:02And even if you don't talk, I'll talk your ear off if you'll listen. So you can call me and if you have nothing to say, I got plenty to say.
24:09Katie came out of her shell and she had a great time talking to the other mothers. I think it's a sigh of relief.
24:14for Katie to realize that she's not as lonely or isolated as she thought she was.
24:20I really appreciate it. I love meeting all of you. You're all welcome to come any time. Thank you, Joe, for inviting them. This was really great.
24:28Whether you have one kid or 20 kids, all mums are in the same boat. They need a support system.
24:35It is time for me to go for a few days only. But in those few days, remember everything that you have in this house works for you and it's there to serve you. So take ownership of it.
24:55It's very easy to do the things that, you know, your teacher teaches you when they're standing over your shoulder.
25:01But when that teacher leaves the classroom, it's basically up to the student. Bye.
25:05Katie and Daniel are going to have their hands full with the new techniques.
25:09But I hope they do a good job in remembering what I've taught them.
25:13Because when I get back, I plan on them both speaking to Katie's dad.
25:21The Prescotts have spent three days without me.
25:23So it's going to be interesting to see if they've held their own.
25:26How have you been? Doing well. Yeah.
25:29So as you can see, we've got some clips here and we're going to take a look at the first one.
25:34And that's all about Daniel and his behaviour and time out and how you guys have addressed Daniel's ADHD and your approach to that.
25:43Because that was definitely something that needed to be improved.
25:45Hi, Trinity!
25:58Hi.
26:00Hi.
26:01Hi.
26:06Hi, my dog.
26:09Hi.
26:10My dog is at the beginning of the day.
26:13Son, you can come out of the corner whenever you're ready to.
26:22It won't be never.
26:25Look who this will be.
26:27I want to be the baddest bear in the world again.
26:34Can I talk to you in my bedroom?
26:37Come on.
26:38We do not want you to get upset.
26:40That's what we're here for.
26:41We're here to help you.
26:42I'm angry, but I keep up to the road and it turns into a fight and I keep getting in trouble.
26:48Do you want to change that?
26:50Yes.
26:51If you did that, make me real proud of you.
26:54Okay?
26:54I love you.
26:56Come on, Rie.
26:59I'm going out of control.
27:02You keep going out of control.
27:04Okay.
27:05I always forgive you, right?
27:06Don't love you.
27:08That's nice.
27:09That's really nice to see.
27:11Look, you're choking watching that.
27:13I can see all your eyes welling.
27:14Right.
27:15Yeah.
27:15It's choking though to watch, isn't it?
27:17You know, you feel a bit like when you watch it, you know?
27:19It's tough to see him being so angry too.
27:21Let's be real here, Daniel.
27:22You're still learning how to compose yourself and not get wound up by Daniel when he kicks off.
27:26It really is about your own temperament because you'll feed into that banter or you won't.
27:32And learning to step outside your own box and have more self-discipline is what brings you to the point of being able to execute this discipline with Daniel in a successful way.
27:45I think that the way we're dealing with it now, there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
27:50I think we have a chance now with him.
27:53Whereas before I felt like it was hopeless.
27:56It was getting worse.
27:57Not better.
27:58Well done, Daniel.
27:59Well done.
28:01Well done.
28:02Okay, so are we ready to see the next bit here, which is all about chores?
28:07Let's take a look.
28:12Make sure you put them in sticking up, the sharp knives, put them in the back and put them down.
28:17Okay?
28:22Three.
28:25Nice.
28:26It's 10,000 times.
28:28Yeah.
28:29We are cleaning.
28:31Here, grab a paper towel and start rubbing it around in the mirrors.
28:37The dishes had to be hard for Daniel because he likes the dishwasher a certain way.
28:42Like, he has his method.
28:43So, I have to just, I just have to brag on him that that was really hard, but he is handling
28:49it really well.
28:51Like, he knows that they're doing their best and he's not tearing them up for, you know,
28:54not doing it his way.
28:56I tried to explain to him how to do it, but I didn't.
28:59I just let him do it.
29:01Kept my hands off.
29:02Tried to, at least.
29:03And the fact is, he's in, he's in, he's doing it, you know?
29:06And that's what's important here.
29:08Okay, let's move on to the last but not least.
29:11Yes.
29:11This is the clip about the hearts and the children.
29:15So, let's see how well we did with our consistency here.
29:19Something else?
29:20Marley, I want to talk to everybody about something that Joe said.
29:23Come here.
29:24Okay.
29:25Listen, listen.
29:26I really want to do our family circle tonight.
29:28Okay.
29:29And I want to do our hearts.
29:30Okay.
29:30Okay.
29:31No running.
29:32No yelling.
29:33Okay.
29:34Show me your not calm face.
29:36Okay.
29:37Now show me your calm face.
29:39Now what do we need to do right now?
29:41Which face?
29:42Calm.
29:43So show me the face you're going to do for the rest of the night.
29:45Baby Minnie, don't forget your coat.
29:51Mom, why don't you bring that stuff to the table?
29:54There you go, baby girl.
29:56So as you can see, you promised the kids the hearts and then you didn't deliver.
30:01They've really, they've really latched on to that.
30:04They love it.
30:04They love receiving this positive message from you every night.
30:09So please try and remember to do so.
30:11You're confirming to them the things that they've done that have been fantastic during the day.
30:16And you're reminding them of the things that they've done, which is incredibly positive.
30:21I've seen some fantastic, fantastic footage.
30:24I'm very, very pleased with that.
30:26Of course, there's always room for improvement.
30:28It's nice to see the follow through.
30:30Well done.
30:35The DVD footage was absolutely superb.
30:39There is still one thing emotionally this family need to overcome.
30:44And that's to get Katie and Daniel working on their relationship with Katie's dad, Sherman.
30:50How about if I suggested building that bridge this afternoon by a phone call.
30:56A baby step forward and have a nice phone call with him.
30:59Katie, welcome in and tell her.
31:02Right now?
31:04Yeah.
31:04Okay.
31:08All right.
31:09I can try.
31:10I was stunned when Joe brought up talking to Katie's dad on the phone today.
31:14I didn't expect it.
31:17I think this is a big challenge for me.
31:20I'm going to call your dad.
31:22And I'm going to talk to your dad.
31:25Okay.
31:26Let's see how it goes.
31:27You're okay with that?
31:28I just got this knot in my stomach because I knew it was something I needed to do.
31:33You know why we're doing this?
31:35Because you know what?
31:36It's about time, isn't it?
31:38Let's face it.
31:39It's about just really being able to, you know, touch base with your dad.
31:44You know, to speak to your father-in-law and to clean the air and to start off fresh.
31:48It was time for Katie to let go.
31:53Let go of all that bitterness because Katie's dad had made a choice to leave the family.
31:59And if Daniel loves her, then he needs to accept his father-in-law, regardless of his sexuality.
32:08Hello?
32:09Hi, is that Sherman?
32:11Yes.
32:12Hi, Sherman.
32:12It's Joe Frost.
32:13How are you?
32:15I'm well.
32:16How are you?
32:16Yeah, I'm fine.
32:18I'm here with Katie and with Daniel.
32:22Hey.
32:22Hey, Dad.
32:24I would love just to hear a little bit of how you felt personally with the decision that you made.
32:35Oh, boy.
32:36I went through just anguish that was unbelievable.
32:41I had, for years, fought it and fought it.
32:44And I got married, thought that would end it.
32:46Got really involved in church.
32:48I thought that might help.
32:50And actually, nothing had helped.
32:53And I still had those feelings.
32:54And it came to a point in my life where I knew I had to make that decision.
32:59And once it was over with for me and I'd gone through it, it was like the weight of the world
33:04had been lifted off my shoulders when I finally had come out to everybody.
33:08The phone call made me understand where he was coming from with what he was going through.
33:14You know, it's a step in the right direction.
33:17Does your sexuality define who you are as a father?
33:20No.
33:21Does it change how you feel for your daughter and the love that you have for her?
33:29Absolutely not.
33:31Your relationship with Daniel has been one that's had its shares of ups and downs, right?
33:44We could honestly say.
33:45Yes.
33:46So, I meet Daniel.
33:47Hey.
33:48This is your dad-in-law here.
33:49Your father-in-law on the phone.
33:50Hey, Sharon.
33:51How you doing, buddy?
33:52I'm all right.
33:53You know, through talking with Joe and with Katie and all the issues that have been brought
34:01up, the main thing that was brought to my attention was that I'm partly to blame for
34:08keeping your guys' relationship on rocky terms.
34:12And I just want you to know that whatever it takes for you and Katie to have a better
34:17relationship, I'm willing to do it to help you guys out and help us all out.
34:21All right.
34:22That's great news.
34:23There's nothing I want more than a relationship with you, Daniel.
34:26I respect you tremendously as a father and a husband because I've been there and seen
34:33you work with the kids and I've been there with Katie.
34:38I'm just proud to have you as a son-in-law and I hate to be emotional, but I think you're
34:45a heck of a guy and a great father and nothing I like better to have a good relationship with
34:50you, bud.
34:51Yeah, me too.
34:52Thank you, Dad.
34:53All right.
34:54It was just nice to be able to hear how much he is proud of Daniel and cares for him and
35:01I think that probably touched Daniel too.
35:04In order for a relationship to grow, for you guys, Daniel, Sherman, to spend quality time
35:14together, it takes time.
35:16Absolutely.
35:17Marvelous.
35:18All right, Dad.
35:19Love you.
35:20Bye-bye.
35:21I think this is really the beginning of building a great relationship.
35:25He deserves it.
35:26You know, no matter what's happened in the past, he still deserves to be able to be a grandfather.
35:31Give me a hug.
35:34Mwah.
35:35Very proud of you, bud.
35:37Serious.
35:39Serious.
35:40I'm glad we're all together because it is time for JoJo to leave now.
35:46Can I get, like, a big group hug?
35:47Uh-oh.
35:48Can I give you a big hug?
35:49She's asking for it.
35:50A big hug.
35:51She's asking for it.
35:52A big hug.
35:53Oh.
35:54Thanks, JoJo.
35:55Thanks, Jo.
35:56You've helped us a lot.
35:57Good job, JoJo.
35:59Now that Jo has come into our family, I feel like we are in a completely different place.
36:04I think we have more peace within our home.
36:07I see a change in every child.
36:10Take care of your family, huh?
36:12After having Jo come to the house, I think our family's a lot better off.
36:17It's a lot calmer.
36:18I definitely think we're a happier family.
36:20Bye.
36:21Kisses.
36:22Bye-bye.
36:23Take care.
36:24The Prescott family were unhappy.
36:26Their hearts were heavy.
36:28Their children were sad.
36:30And we have good communication, open minds, open hearts.
36:35We have seven children who are much happier.
36:38Parents who are communicating with one another.
36:41And a grandfather who's going to get to see his kids as priceless.
36:45They're over here.
36:46We're going to go set our stuff down and then we'll go see the ducks.
37:01I just feel like so many weights have been lifted off of me.
37:05It's put me in such a peaceful place inside.
37:08Do you have any food?
37:10I don't.
37:11I don't have any food right now.
37:12The main reason I started this whole thing was because Katie needed it.
37:16And along the way I found some things, a lot of stuff for myself too.
37:21I wasn't expecting to, but I did.
37:24Stingy, yeah?
37:25Yeah.
37:26I want one with dip.
37:27With dip.
37:28I'm no longer having these thoughts running through my mind at the end of the day of all the things that I haven't accomplished.
37:34I go to bed with this sense of pride in what I've accomplished with my kids that day.
37:39And it gives me a great hope for the future.
37:43So what happens when we run out of grapes?
37:45They come looking for them.
37:47No.
37:48I see my family changing since Jim has got here.
37:51Yeah.
37:52Throw whatever.
37:53I don't know what they're going to eat.
37:54Talking about my dad and resolving that with Daniel was like somebody just literally lifting a weight off of me.
38:00I feel like there's hope now.
38:01I feel like there's hope now.
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