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00:00This is not a game. This is a job interview from hell.
00:14From all corners of the country, 16 people have come to London.
00:19I don't care where you come from, whether you started in a council flat or born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
00:26All I'm looking for is somebody who is drop dead true.
00:31They're here to compete for a job worth £100,000.
00:36With a man famously hard to please.
00:40No one's going to make a fool out of me.
00:44Sir Alan Sugar has built a global business empire worth £800 million.
00:51Now, once again, he's on the hunt for an apprentice.
00:55I think this has been a bloody disaster.
00:58And I promise you, my friend, you will be out that door so quick, you wouldn't know what's hit you.
01:02To succeed, they're going to have to live...
01:05This is the life.
01:06...and work together.
01:08We are going to make some money.
01:10We really are.
01:11I am your boss.
01:12No, you're not my boss, you're project manager.
01:14I am your boss.
01:15You're nothing to me.
01:16It's the chance of a lifetime.
01:18You went out and lost me money.
01:20You're fired.
01:21You're fired.
01:22You are a total shambles.
01:24You're fired.
01:25You are paid to go out and sell me money.
01:34Previously on The Apprentice.
01:36You are going to be selling live on television.
01:41First, they had to choose the products they thought would sell best.
01:46Christina's team went for safe bets.
01:49This is a pack of two high-waist slimming pants.
01:52They fall just under your bust line and just above your knee.
01:57Simon's team took risks on high-priced items.
02:01Deluxe folding wheelchair, £199.99, which is low impact.
02:07The retail on the high-term is £69.99.
02:11I think that's really sellable.
02:13All right, I'm sold.
02:14On air, both project managers put themselves in the spotlight to impress Sir Alan.
02:19We have got... Come on, Christina, Jesus Christ.
02:22Oh, don't scrub.
02:24Sorry, everybody, I shouldn't have said that.
02:25Get her off.
02:26Six simple legs here, which you just simply just screw on, like so.
02:31It makes great sense.
02:34And you can also have fun with it.
02:36Was that really bad?
02:37Yeah.
02:38What I saw was the biggest load of toot I've ever seen in my life.
02:43I was embarrassed.
02:44In the boardroom, Christina scraped through.
02:47You won.
02:48I think it was a bad win.
02:50Simon's team had to defend their products.
02:53You chose the wheelchair.
02:55It was a risk. I'll admit it was a risk.
02:56I took a risk, but it was a calculator.
02:58Lucky risk, because actually you sold two.
03:00Yeah, well, it wasn't lucky.
03:00It was £400, I chose it.
03:01Of the pathetic £700-odd that you took.
03:04With all due respect, I didn't choose it because I thought I was going to sell none of it.
03:07I chose it because I thought I could sell it.
03:09But Naomi's choice of products hardly sold at all.
03:13Although he made a dickhead of it himself, you chose wrongly the trampoline.
03:17Naomi, you chose bad products.
03:21You're fired.
03:23Thank you, sir.
03:23I'm...
03:24Naomi became the 11th casualty of the boardroom.
03:30Now five remain to fight for the chance to become the apprentice.
03:35One week to go before Sir Alan must choose his apprentice.
03:59This is Francis from Sir Alan's office.
04:05He wants you to meet him at the Viglen head office.
04:08The cars will be with you in half an hour.
04:10OK.
04:11Right, we're going to Viglen's head office.
04:12It's not even half an hour.
04:16This morning, they'd been summoned to one of his companies,
04:21where they suspect they could be individually grilled
04:24on what they know about Sir Alan and his empire.
04:28Some candidates think they know him well.
04:32I would love a chance to work with Sir Alan.
04:34He's someone that I've been aware of throughout my whole life,
04:36from age five, six years old,
04:38when my dad bought me an Amstrad computer
04:39and I used to play with Jet Set Willy.
04:42Unfortunately, like Simon has,
04:44I haven't been reading the annual reports on Amstrad,
04:47so I don't know their figures as such.
04:49I just know what Amstrad does.
04:50As a general rule, I don't know about the rest of his companies.
04:53So, but then if I get the job, I learn, I suppose.
04:57So, whatever, whatever.
04:59But there's still a chance to crib some last-minute facts.
05:02Come on, they make computers.
05:07Is that what you're going to give me?
05:09Like they supply to schools.
05:14Viglen, yeah?
05:14Yeah.
05:15I don't really know that much about them.
05:18I'm interested in my words now.
05:21Honestly, I don't really know that much about them.
05:23He's a wanker.
05:28He's no better than a school kid in a classroom.
05:33I think copying the exam sheet of his neighbour.
05:36He's called you a wanker because you wouldn't tell him.
05:38Because that makes you feel...
05:40Better.
05:41Because you don't know something.
05:44And you do that.
05:45So, you know what?
05:47It's his problem.
05:48Oh, he's a wanker.
05:51He's going to call me schoolboy names.
05:53I'm going to resort to schoolboy tactics.
05:56I'm not a wanker.
05:56You're a wanker.
05:57What was Trey asking you in the garden?
06:04He was asking me to tell him everything that I knew about Hamstrad and talk him through.
06:08Yeah.
06:09I said, stick to what you know.
06:11And he said, but I don't know what, Trey.
06:12He doesn't know anything, does he?
06:13He's a bloody weasel.
06:15He's trying to weasel information out of me in the flippin' cheek.
06:21Marketing consultant Trey Azam has been the most successful candidate.
06:26To date, he's won seven out of ten tasks.
06:29Business is everything I've ever done.
06:31Because I've been put in positions, tough positions from a young age, and I've been in business pretty much my whole life,
06:36I was handling board meetings when I was 18 years old.
06:38Simon Ambrose, a member of Mensa at the age of 13, graduated from Cambridge a year early.
06:50Now he's a budding internet entrepreneur with property interests.
06:54I'm unique because I'm a free thinker.
06:56If someone tells me to turn left, I'll instinctively immediately want to turn right.
06:59And I think Sir Anna's looking for someone that's prepared to buck the trend rather than follow it.
07:02Katie Hopkins, already earning 90,000 a year, is determined to shatter the glass ceiling and become a chief executive.
07:13I am not scared of walking into a boardroom full of 50-year-old men and telling them what I believe and changing their opinions.
07:21I have a ruthless streak to me and an edge, which I'm not afraid to use.
07:26At just 25, the youngest surviving candidate is Lohit Kalberghi.
07:34I think the fear of failure definitely intimidates me.
07:37I think I like taking risks, but I'm always very careful about the types of risks that I take.
07:45When Christina Grimes became a teenage mother, everyone said she'd ruined her life.
07:51Now she's an award-winning sales manager.
07:53The best thing anybody can say to me is, you can't do that, and then I will.
07:57I'll prove them wrong.
07:58I've got a huge amount of self-belief.
08:00I'm not here to be second.
08:03I'm here to win The Apprentice.
08:05I wouldn't be here otherwise.
08:06I won't be here otherwise.
08:23good morning well you've all done very well to get to this position now today it's not going
08:40to be a task it's going to be a grueling interview process that's going to find out if you've really
08:46got what it takes to work for me now those of you that have done a bit of research will realize that
08:52we're here at one of my companies I've got three of my very trusted business associates who are
09:00going to interview you at the end of the day they're going to come and meet me in the boardroom
09:05and they're going to suggest to me which of you are suited to work in one of my companies
09:09the difference is today three of you are going to get fired clear good okay off you go
09:22each candidate will be interrogated by Sir Alan's trusted advisors
09:30Claude Littner worked for Sir Alan for over 15 years as his global troubleshooter he's no stranger to
09:37hiring and firing
09:42Borden Tachuk chief executive of bigland computers after 20 years service he knows better than anyone
09:49what Sir Alan is looking for Paul Kemsley runs a leading property company a friend and business
10:02colleague of Sir Alan he's always on the lookout for a good deal all five candidates have had to supply
10:10their inquisitors with their CVs and application forms explaining why they should be Sir Alan Sugar's next apprentice
10:17hi I'm Paul Kemsley hi Paul Trey nice to meet you nice meeting you all right so the man will do
10:40anything to succeed is sitting in front of me your own words huh okay see I don't really understand why
10:47you're here I mean this is interesting do you really want me to believe that Sir Alan was a childhood hero
10:58of yours you know I'm saying that's absolutely absurd I'm not comfortable the answers given me by the way
11:03in preparing yourself to get involved with apprentice did you do some research I did two research I did
11:15kind of my basic research just before we kind of came into the house as such um but over time
11:20unfortunately it's deteriorated in my head let me just put this right then so you're applying for a
11:25role yes for Sir Alan yes you don't really don't that much about his company no looking at your
11:30background you're a web guy yes so you didn't google that Alan no I didn't do you think you should
11:36have done I probably should have yeah that's not a good start is it try no it's not do you think
11:43you're tough enough I think or do you think you're better just in a good sales job being given a particular
11:49task to do there's some surgical instruments go flog them to the NHS the biggest stress that you can
11:54ever give me is boredom and that's what stresses me does change frighten you look at my CV does
12:00change so frighten me I mean well I'm looking at it you haven't had any change in the last five six
12:04right okay I mean every every point in my life I've changed I've moved I mean I've been all over the UK
12:10in terms of going on my career and stuff like that change does not scare me whatsoever in fact I love
12:14change ruthlessness where would you sit on the scale of naught to ten well when required I'd say I go for a
12:23ten so it can be pretty roof I can be very ruthless I think on a personal level I think
12:28you'll comment here I was quite surprised to read it here he said have you ever lied or treated get
12:33what you want he said yes to get someone else's husband because I wanted him that's pretty ruthless
12:37that is quite ruthless on a scale of one to ten I'd go about an eight on that one all right so you could be
12:42more ruthless than that I am ruthless I'm not I'm not getting away from that
12:46it's not too bad
12:52hi I'm low head what was your name my name's Claude Claude nice to meet you do you know the
13:00world word humility have you heard that word before I do right would it apply to you I think
13:05so you talk about things such as you've achieved more than people twice your age I'm twice your
13:12age I'd like to think I've achieved more than you Simon Ambrose that's me property man yep how did
13:25that come about I had some look at me sorry I'm sorry sorry I had some savings and I took on a big
13:32house with a mortgage and I rent rooms out in it and I live in it as well you should be embarrassed
13:37about what your tenants say about you what do they say worst landlord ever house falling to
13:43pieces shower and toilet will block for ages doesn't maintain anything uses dodgy builders
13:48when the washing machine broke and I needed a clean uniform yeah for work he just suggested I
13:54brought my washing round to his home yeah had no TV for one year as he didn't fix the aerial
13:59here and use coat hangers yeah he just has not got a clue about being a landlord how'd it go how'd it
14:05go how'd it go I heard he was a bulldog oh they got hold of one of my tenants who doesn't like me
14:14very much and she just she's just literally the most disparaging thing about me and they just reeled it
14:19it's like a debate he's like it's about this you're like no actually it's not about that it's
14:25about this you're gonna take it to pieces don't be shy let me shine the way now I don't think I know
14:31how to be shy right the thing that's confused me about your CV tray yeah is you say that you have
14:39successful businesses in the US and Asia has it you had had what's happened they were family
14:45businesses when the business went down and we had to sell everything off I end up with absolutely
14:50nothing but rather than just going to any old job I decided to start again which is obviously a lot
14:55more difficult than just right why would you talk about business yes and your success is when the only
15:00experience you've had running your own business is one that's ended in disaster well if you let me
15:04finish you let me finish and obviously we were very successful but then as times moved on sometimes
15:10as business as you know it has its ups and it's downs what do you actually do I do different things
15:14I'm a design consultant for one of my agencies a marketing consultant for another company a brand
15:18consultant for another company and for another company I'm just a consultant for marketing branding
15:22and design so you you operate out of an office or you've got staff I have I have a home office I have
15:28a staff abroad I have an office abroad where my developers sit right you've got an office abroad in other
15:32words you what you've got an address abroad you've got a fully functional office abroad I've got 15
15:36offices abroad you've got 15 offices abroad and abroad yes and we have one operation office as well
15:42where's we well the family well my dad owns the sorry so you're going back let me finish if you're
15:47gonna let me finish I think you'll understand where I have one of the offices where I keep my
15:51developers my programmers and my developers we work for you guys right basically no I think you got it
15:56wrong again listen I haven't come here for an argument yeah I'll ask the questions right and you'll answer
16:01them right tell me a little bit about yourself I've spent the last 18 years get myself through
16:11university and trying to kind of push myself as far as I possibly could in my career bearing in mind
16:16that I had my son to look after he's now gone off to university and he's 18 years of age and I'm sort
16:22of it's almost like it's the first time that I really can push myself to whatever level I want you've
16:27talked about sort of the fact you haven't wanted to take risks up until now because of your commitment
16:31as a parent but is that not it's just an excuse really if you say you know you haven't taken risks
16:37earning no money and putting yourself through university is taking a risk I joined this company
16:42and the product hadn't been launched in the UK and it could have fallen flat on its face a lot of times
16:47there was a risk that was going to fall flat on its face so I have taken risks but I've taken them as far
16:51as I possibly could I don't think that anybody would question your sales experience but what you don't
16:56appear to have is that entrepreneurial skill one because you don't care about it if you cared
17:02about it you'd have done something well before now on your own try you have several offices around the
17:18world once again I have one office which I use out of our offices which is for my back-end development
17:24programming and over here I have a home office to keep my overheads low I don't need a property
17:27because I'm a consultant I work from different companies offices as and when required when I
17:32need can you not understand why I'm struggling with this no I can't you can't understand what
17:36you're sitting here in an interview yes to get a job yes working for sir Alan sugar yes within the
17:42Amstrad corporation right but in your past time well you're running an international conglomerate
17:49do you really want this job try yes I do you really really want this job what are you going
18:01to do close down your international organization well I can I can put it on hold I'm young enough to shut
18:06the bedroom door it's not a bedroom it's a home office as such but I set the business up from nothing
18:12and I took it to where it is now and maybe I wouldn't be an international global businessman
18:15worldwide expert I I hope so you worry me I do you do worry me you went to a fantastic school
18:36yeah you obviously went to great university yeah and you then had a job in the city yeah and you
18:44seem to have never recovered since then somehow well that's one way of looking upon upon it I
18:48wouldn't say I never recovered I'd say I had a very good run I had a very good remuneration while I was
18:53working the city and I've put a lot of work why did you leave the city I didn't leave they made me
18:56redundant unfortunately they made you redundant do you think companies let good people go no I don't
19:02think they do I think do you think you perhaps weren't that good I think I perhaps have to hold
19:06my hand up and say I must have done something wrong the one thing I do know is that you generally don't
19:09let people know delivering something for no you don't and I did deliver but there were other people
19:14delivering more than me and currently you're trading on the internet yes I've got an internet retail
19:24shop what sort of products are you saying the sound of light equipment into schools for example
19:29speakers karaoke players the smoke machine snow machines bubble machines you've gone from being
19:34an employee at Credit Suisse to being an employer where you call yourself an entrepreneur now it
19:39would appear within a very short time barely before you've had an opportunity of seeing whether it's
19:43going to be successful or not you're now saying oh hang on a minute I better go back into employment
19:48well I've done it for every two years now I wouldn't say suddenly I don't know where you're going
19:51I don't know where you're going so what are you are you an employee or do you want to be an
19:55entrepreneur and have the rewards and risks that go are associated with that from my perspective if
20:00I want to get big if I want to be successful if I want to do really well and make a lot of money you
20:04know do I want to keep dealing with the bits and bobs selling scraps to individual customers no I
20:08want to look at the bigger picture and I want to try and jump a couple steps to give myself a leg up
20:12and do something perhaps with Sir Alan hopefully fingers crossed selling hundreds of thousands of
20:16things so you know different larger customers
20:21nice to meet you and you too
20:31you're a mum two young kids I am a mum but interestingly enough you mentioned in your CV
20:39more than once that you don't like to think of yourself as a mum I do like being a mum but it's
20:43the image of the mum that sort of softly softly the sort of floral image the stay at home do lots
20:49of cooking puree everything that you can that's not what I am and I don't like mothers who criticize
20:54mothers that go to work and where have you got to now Katie I am 90k a year I work for a global
20:59business consultancy I've got a gold card for BA I didn't get to where I've got to now sitting at
21:04home playing mummy you're single aren't you I'm single all right so your priority would be to get this
21:12job my priority in life is my children so it's your priority I mean I'm not being difficult
21:17here Katie so if Alan says to me is Katie a good long-term prospect I would say her priority are her
21:25children that's is that is that a wrong answer okay that's a wrong answer then and I prefer you
21:30didn't say that okay so what would you like me to say yeah in my life I put my children first if
21:36they're sick whatever they need me I'm there that's that's absolutely bottom line there's no
21:40question on that the reason I'm a good term and long-term prospect is at my age I've done my
21:46children thing my children thing is done it's passed I don't need maternity leave I don't need any of
21:50that bull they're done but now my focus is on my career and making a brilliant life for them and
21:57that's what I'm about anything personal only about my children which you would expect though annoying
22:05probably stuff around my babies yeah I'm single I suppose so it makes me think I think that's
22:13probably why I mean you are the main carer aren't you so that's what I always think that you know
22:17women that have had babies are a better investment than women who are just about to go and often have
22:21them it's ironic the two people left for the two mothers yeah neither Christina nor I see
22:28ourselves as mothers I doubt Jesus no what makes you angry I think people that don't deliver and when
22:36people in my team don't do that I think I get very very impatient and have you lost your temper in this
22:41series yet I have not you're pretty middle of the road aren't you I don't think I'm middle of the
22:45road I think I'm boring a little I don't think so Paul I'm talking to you and I'm thinking you know
22:49I'm thinking you know what you're a nice chap very steady Eddie but you don't excite me you're a
22:55bit boring when you're a leader people have to see stability and they need to know that they can rely
22:59and depend on you are you a leader absolutely I'm a leader I know I know that I'm very good and I'm
23:04very very confident charisma that's what that's what I think is important in a CEO someone with charisma
23:09okay you've got charisma I think so I'm not here to be nice I think you would struggle not to be nice
23:15Paul being a nice person is a good thing that's not a bad thing it's providing you don't want to
23:19be a CEO okay well you know when you run a company you're out there in the big bad world of business
23:25where people lie still cheat sure and they'll cut your fucking legs off to make a few quid yeah
23:30what if you got that the other candidates haven't got I think I've got the edge in them I think that
23:48I've got a great business head I think I've got sales which I think is great I'm relentless there's
23:53no way that anybody can ever say to me you can't do something because if they do I'll turn around to
23:58prove to them that I can this is my clean slate now I I've got nobody to worry about but myself
24:02how much of the apprentices is about winning because of your competitive nature I think there
24:09is a competitive element to it and I'd be lying if I said to you that doesn't matter to me it does
24:13matter and I do like the idea that I can compete against others to win definitely what did you know
24:18about sir Alan to do it was he was it anything at all no I didn't know an awful lot about sir Alan at
24:25all to be to be really blunt in terms of Alan's personal wealth I have no idea what it is I know
24:33I'm just sales 100 million in the last country year and I know the profit levels were turned to net
24:38profit was 20 million and I know that they're right down to 5.7 million he did the PC W's and
24:44he moved into making pieces which were like a third of what they were on sale by IBM for I'm going to
24:49suggest you haven't really done a lot of research on the sound I think that's fair and then he got
24:54into telephones he bought beta comm and started making telephones and then he obviously moved
24:58into the sky decode he's got a contract with this guy to make their PVRs the person with the headquarters
25:03and he supplied it to a sky person yesterday and he's Nathan and Hong Kong right you know I've done my
25:08research properly on you know on this job on this company and I've done my best and make sure I
25:13know everything inside out you wouldn't know the motivations of things that he motivates him in terms of
25:17business no I don't but why don't you know I don't know that information why haven't you taken in
25:23the sufficient interest it concerns me that you know you would just wonder what your goal really
25:29is when you don't do research
25:47after three hours of intensive questioning the consultants report back to Sir Alan
26:02as their fate hangs in the balance the candidates can do nothing but wait all they know is that three
26:16of them will get fired let's talk about Trey first of all Paul well you may not be aware of this
26:32Alan but Trey runs a global corporation from his bedroom it does what apparently he's got 15 offices
26:41around the world some of which may also be bedrooms he he's a bullshit fantasies I read his CV and it
26:50talked about dumb business in America dumb business in Asia I think he's had a pretty patchy experience and
26:56he left school went to his family business which subsequently failed he then started family business
27:03that failed yeah so I don't know about that what he did to me is he presented it as his own business and
27:08when I said are you talking about your father's business no yes no and that's why we couldn't
27:13progress the interview because I wasn't prepared to let this point go what qualities do you think
27:17you have to take you forward and the fact that I've got a lot of business commercial experience working
27:22worldwide even though I don't have a massively successful we're not back to this worldwide business
27:26okay well no I have I've worked right a different choice you're not an international businessman well
27:31I've run businesses in the States I've worked in Europe I know you may have had jobs you may have
27:35had jobs abroad jobs contract an individual business an international businessman and I
27:40don't know any international businessman yeah who only earn 50 grand a year I mean
27:45that's business that way that will not even cover your travel expenses yeah you couldn't even get to
27:51your bloody offices abroad with 50 grand a year I found with him that when you get him in a corner
27:57he struggles and he gets quite aggressive the thing that I was struck most about him you know
28:03computer literate guy all these workers in computers you know he did zero research he knew the basics but
28:10had no depth at all we've seen this fellow for the last you know 11 weeks out of 10 tasks he won
28:17seven but he don't like losing no one likes losing he doesn't like being questioned either or criticized yeah
28:23we don't like losing he's a very aggressive all along we thought you know they think this guy's got legs and
28:29the feedback I was getting from Nick and Margaret that this guy was actually you know instrumental in
28:35the wind I wasn't overly impressed at Alan to be honest with you and obviously you don't have the
28:40benefit of the fact that of how well he's done here but no of course it's just on 25 minutes yeah he has
28:45shown some flashes of talent actually yeah yeah that's quite possible to give him some credit I
28:50mean he's obviously you know been able to keep himself gainfully employed by picking up contracts
28:54continuously I think he's the big issue with him is a loner Paul I've got your opinion of him he won't
29:04be on your Christmas card list then the one thing about Trey is he's prepared to fight for what he
29:09thinks is the case even if it's not the case which shows a little bit of bite a little bit of a yeah
29:16a little bit of something there all right let's move on to Christina I quite like Christina I thought
29:23that she was a strong capable woman she's obviously had some issues in terms of bringing up a young
29:28child which is overcome and so I think that she's got some strong positives she stuck with a job for a
29:34number of years she's been in the pharmaceutical industry for 10 years six years in her present job
29:38and that does show that she's not somebody who's a flash in the pan on the negative side I would say
29:43that she hasn't really progressed too much either I correct me if I'm wrong but if you if you looked
29:48at Borden CV and my CV if there were such a thing you would say we're in the electronics industry all
29:54our lives so I don't see anything wrong with that actually of sticking to what you know I liked her
29:59Alan I thought she was competent I thought that she would be hard-working she struck me as being
30:04somebody who'd be quite good fun around the office as well not too full of herself I thought she was a
30:09credible candidate Paul what was your findings of her I thought she was very pleasant we had a good
30:15interview she was bright she was cheery smiley I get the feeling that if she if she got the job she'd
30:22probably stick to it I mean she had a nice interview I could find nothing wrong with her I have the same
30:27experience would I employ her yes I'd employ her as a manager
30:31Borden good person high integrity does what it says on the label I mean she just delivers what she's
30:39what she's doing I think if we're looking for someone solid and and I think there's an opportunity
30:44for her to do something better to be honest you know to be the apprentice to me epitomizes sort of
30:48like being given an opportunity within an industry to prove to myself and prove to the others how good
30:55I really am I've got a huge amount of self-belief I haven't naturally necessarily been given the
31:00opportunities that I you know I would have liked to been able to have taken in the past and this to
31:05me has given me this opportunity to say this is how good I am and I do think I am good I think she's at
31:11a point where she's looking for the challenge she fits all the attributes you know this would be a big
31:17career move for her she's willing to make the move she could be a good asset okay low hit chaps
31:23called on low hit well I think that know it I found that he gave me the group the greatest problem to be
31:31honest with you I think he's the least credible of the candidates I didn't think that he was really
31:36plausible I didn't see how he'd be able to fulfill a function in any of your companies he says that he's
31:43got strong leadership skills and he's a natural leader and he's ruthless no I didn't think that
31:47he does any of those talent no no no any of those sorry that's it well you know I was I was deeply
31:53unimpressed with him to be honest with you I mean the trouble I have with low here is if you ask him
31:58to point to his left ear he'd go like this you know it do everything more complicated than it needs
32:06to be and just as if he turns on a switch and he's spewing out a load of talk I don't think
32:13he knows what he's actually saying half the time I think it's also really important to be
32:18able to have quite a strategic view so to be able to look down on what's happening but also have the
32:23ability to drill down and actually get something done in a particular area if you see a mistake but
32:28then come up to 60,000 feet he describes himself here as calm rational and collected demeanor he's
32:34just a nice guy boring it's just a nice bloke run any of your businesses forget it okay
32:42Baldwin on Simon I interesting guy and here's a here's a guy that's sort of got all the background
32:50got all the training merchant bank intelligent articulate knows his staff has researched his
32:58position well knows everything there is about the company more for the bar holder I'm waiting for the
33:03bar now I'll give you the back I think this guy's easy to read he obviously comes from a fairly
33:08privileged background he went to Cambridge University he is a gross underachiever in my
33:13opinion he's 26 years old he's got an honours degree or a two-in-one whatever it is from from
33:19Cambridge is how many years later what's he done he's got a townhouse that is rented out to a few
33:25people he's not even looking after that property particularly well stick it sticking coat hangers in
33:30there's TV aerials and and letting people sleep on the side but you're not a technician no he's
33:35clearly not a technician and he hasn't done anything from my point of view I felt that I
33:42couldn't quite get to grips on what happened to this career that was sort of cut short you know the
33:47negative on him was perhaps is it he just seemed to have been hit hard and couldn't recover from
33:54that I take a different view of the guy okay he went to a very good school he went to a great
33:58university I think he did lose his way I think that he's spent the last few years drifting but
34:04I wouldn't write him off if I was to get the job with surrounding which I'd love to do you know
34:07I potentially I'd like to write a business plan down with him or whatever he wants me to do if
34:11he wants to give me a task give me you know a project I will do it and if he wants to half my
34:14salary now and pay me half end of the year it's being recorded you know yeah fine I don't mind I'm happy to
34:19go on record and say that if he wants to set me a target I will beat it and I will beat it in a year's time
34:22and then after that we can look at the next year I think he's only 25 26 he's young he's made a few
34:27little mistakes along the way I wouldn't rule him out because I think given the chance he could
34:31succeed and Katie what about Katie I mean I know she's bright you're right Alan she's very bright
34:38very capable you could certainly give her a job to do a business to run and I think she'd do it
34:44yeah could she uh upset the people she works with almost certainly do you get intimidated I'm not
34:52intimidated ever I'm never intimidated really oh I don't believe I am do you think that you
34:57intimidate people I think I have the potential to intimidate people and do intimidate people when
35:02I need to I'm a confident lady very confident I am a car you think that's your bit your best trait
35:08I think strength is a good trait she's a powerful aggressive lady would you employ Paul I probably
35:17would give her a project to do I don't think I could work with her day in day out because I think
35:22she'd do my head in but um I think she's very capable of taking that project and running it
35:27my view is is slightly different I think I think that whereas Katie is um uh almost the opposite of
35:34Simon Simon is more introverted quiet but she is a showman so she's up out front she's showing off
35:40she's flashing her eyelashes she's a great talker she puts on a great performance I wouldn't let her run a
35:46company because I don't think she's got a clue she seems to get by by putting on feminine charm
35:51and thinking that's a good enough answer I think she's better than just putting on feminine charm
35:56I have concern with hers the girl is totally ruthless in every regard to the point on a personal
36:06level and I quote here have you ever lied and cheated she said yes to get someone else's husband
36:11because I wanted him I'm afraid that's her I don't know if I saw the real Katie during the interview I
36:20don't know if I could even begin to understand I got the impression there was a charade was going on
36:24and I was seeing someone who was quite happy to use whatever asset she had to get to wherever she
36:32needed she's a go-getter she may not tick the boxes for you Claude because you you know you like the
36:38academic source you you want someone who reads a balance sheet if we if you sat today with a
36:41chartered accountant you'd come in and say was wonderful but I wouldn't there is something that's
36:46more fundamental to this and you've got to ask what's what's her motivation to be on the apprentice
36:52yeah she's 90,000 pounds already she's earning so she's not here for the money when I asked her
36:59about you to be fair she really didn't have much of a clue just close your eyes for a minute and
37:06see her in the organization and what's what do you see she's got something she's she's going to burn
37:14have you been evasive in that answering me the question I said close your eyes do you see that
37:19we might have someone here at last that is dead dead bright dead strong that could actually take
37:25take something back or not you think she's going to be aggro it's only about winning for katie if
37:32you happen to coincide with winning for katie then it works listen bolden bolden bolden bolden you know
37:38I'm not even going to use the terminology the pot calling the kettle black we all enjoyed our share
37:44options didn't we right and we all made loads and loads of money back in the mid-80s I ain't got a
37:49problem about that people are greedily interested in themselves I wasn't I wasn't really referring to
37:54that the danger you've got with Katie I think she could do it she's smart the danger you've got
37:59with Katie this is is this just a leapfrog for something else all right and that's that's Alan
38:04you've got I've got to make one point to you if you want somebody genuinely want somebody to come in
38:09or run a big part of your business that person is going to be aggravation that person is going to be
38:16ferocious that person's going to want that person's going to be greedy he or she is going to be
38:21aggressive yeah accept it yeah otherwise you know otherwise go and give it to a simple account you
38:28know she might be one of those people and I wouldn't I want to be I want to win I want to win I just want
38:32to win this I've won the apprentice done that move on and she may well do that she may well win this and
38:39then bugger off I agree we're boarding it it's an ego trip okay folks well it's been as ever very
38:46interested to hear your very colorful explanations of the people that you met for the first time
38:53really thanks a lot thank you well you've been following them around for the last delivery what's
39:09your call on them she's very efficient she's very competent she has been able to handle all the tasks
39:15he's articulate he's a bit of fun he's a force he's quite strong he's argumentative he's quite
39:23irrepressible because if you knock down 20 ideas he'll still be coming up with the 21st I don't
39:27know if he's got a killer instinct he's not a leader and he's not assertive she wants to win
39:32undoubtedly but winning for what reason yeah well for winning I think winning for winning
39:38having listened to the chaps there's there's clearly three that stick out in my mind you know
39:47that are all very very very very employable that's the dilemma I mean
39:55so Alan will see you now
40:17good evening long day maybe no consolation to three of you at the end of this boardroom session
40:30but it is a great achievement considering the process that you've been through considering
40:35the tens of thousands of people that applied
40:38christina uh you brought up your child who's now 18 years old and gone off to university
40:47and from what I can understand you say that's it now now it's christina time yeah yeah correct done a
40:53good job as far as that's concerned now it's christina time yeah yeah I want to go upwards and
40:58forward so to speak yeah correct you've been in pharmaceuticals for about 10 years from what I
41:03can understand yes I think that if I ever started to make syringes I could sit down and say christina
41:12we are making syringes today go and sell them and I reckon you'd do a bloody good job
41:17my job is to go and look at opportunities within my marketplace my job is to get the biggest contracts
41:24than I can with the NHS my job is not to go out there and sell syringes and if to be honest with
41:29you sir Alan if you said to me go and sell syringes I couldn't do it because I wouldn't be interested
41:33and I just wouldn't have the drive for it at all
41:38you live in harrogate correct yes okay i ain't got an office in harrogate
41:44you've got a life in harrogate haven't you i've lived in harrogate for four or five years but i'm
41:50willing you know i mean i've said that when it was christina time that i would go anywhere
41:53i'd even move abroad if i had to to get what i want sure absolutely positive katie
42:07exeter devon two little kids how's life gonna be if i say to you katie right come on you're down in
42:16london you've got to move your family move your location because i say to you the same as i said
42:21to christina i ain't opening an office in exeter right now i'm not back in exeter right now i'm on
42:27the road right now i'm away from home right now you have a base don't you have a base your home
42:32someone says to watch your home god forbid a policeman puts you up in the street and nicks you
42:36for driving where do you live oh i said okay okay where are you gonna live when you work for me
42:41that home has to move is it as going to be as simple as that i think it can be as simple as that
42:48and i have discussed it with the people that support me and help me work and help me get on
42:53the road and they are happy that i move does that support network include relatives that might look
42:58after yeah so my mum and dad have them your mum and dad you're going to move them from from exeter
43:03or up to london they have talked about moving midway between me and my sister where's your sister
43:09you see she's a bournemouth so this bournemouth london thing could work quite well
43:16i know it's not commutable sir alan but i'm worried here i'm worried katie
43:23simon there are certain things that confuse me about this stock market business what confuses me a
43:30little bit more is about what you went on and did and the kind of businesses that you're in now and if
43:35you're in business on your own now making you know the money that you claim you're making what do you
43:40want to work for me for because when i got into my business on on the retailing internet retailing
43:44side of things two years ago it was basically a cottage industry there were mum and pop shops and
43:48high streets around the country now any old tom dick and harry can get on the internet and buy an
43:52internet shop for a couple of quid and it's just become saturated now i'm on a treadmill running just
43:56to stand still and it's all very well and good selling bits and pieces to one or two customers but i'm
44:01i want to i don't want to be small fry anymore i want to be a big fry and i'd rather come work for
44:06you so i can look at the bigger picture now where do you live now then i live in clapham at the moment
44:10that's a bloody horrible joke it is it is i've plowed tell me about your personal life can you move
44:15yeah if i have to yeah i will if it if it might not be to brentwood you might be in radlet well that's
44:20fine if i might be in st james's all the posh boys yeah that would be actually it suits you to be in
44:25that office there with all those posh tosses down the road that would be absolutely wonderful if that's
44:29if that's what you'd be so kind as to offer me that would be absolutely fine trey as a man of the
44:35world like you worked in america set up businesses in karachi access to 15 businesses of your of your
44:43family if i've understood it offices offices of your of of your family yeah simple question
44:50what do you want to work for me for because like i said to one of your colleagues i haven't had the
44:54opportunity to work in a corporate environment and learn this side of business and this is my
44:58opportunity while i'm still young in order to do it and to be successful in another area of
45:02business to allow me to expand my own business development and learn new areas so what you
45:06want to learn off for me then bugger off afterwards maybe yeah well you never know what's going to
45:11happen further down the line but i'm certainly going to give you my commitment in time
45:18lowe you've been and i want to say this in the nicest possible way because i don't want to
45:23undermine the fact that you you know you were you're in the last five there were occasions that
45:29you were the kind of um taylor's dummy that was part of the team that won um that with with the
45:36greatest respect it didn't shine through that the contribution from you was the reason they won
45:41sure sure so alan i think um i i i i won't agree with you uh when you say that i've been a tailor's
45:48dummy i think i've contributed on every single task and i think perhaps one of my mistakes is that
45:52i haven't been able to communicate exactly the value that i've added
45:59i'm not sure whether i made it clear to you but i'll reiterate it again this is it this is where i'm
46:05gonna pick the two finalists yeah so three people are going
46:21lowe i'm trying to search for what you're going to do for me i tried to visualize lowe this man
46:29where is he which company what's he doing where's he slotting in where's he dovetailing into my
46:35organization and i can't see it to me the fact that i have a broad range of skills that i've worked
46:41in sales that i've worked in service i've worked in different countries and companies i think that's
46:45the magic that i can offer what i'm saying to you sir alan is i can do whatever you want me to do and
46:51i've proven that i can in my career and in the tasks as well today so that is what i mean what have
46:57you proven i mean this is the point i find sometimes people they say something long enough they
47:03believe it i'm not trying to convince myself sir alan i'm i'm here to convince you lowe you are a very
47:10nice fine fellow i want to put you out your misery you're fired thanks okay
47:28so now katie i want you to try and place yourself in my position here i am faced with someone who's
47:47earning already a similar amount than i'm going to offer that lives in a geographical location which is
47:55inconvenient to my business and i think to myself why is this real or what do you understand where
48:05i'm coming from i totally do but i would say to you i don't think you want people that are desperate
48:10for your job you want people that have options and choose to come and choose to work i understand it
48:16but normally when someone wants to do something right it's because there's either more places to
48:21travel to not just manhattan might be la might be san francisco might be tokyo hong kong and might be
48:27singapore not bloody mile end road yeah and you know what i want to tell you something my guys they
48:34think you have the capability of running a business for me but they have this caveat and they said they
48:39don't know what you're doing here and you know there are three other people in this room and it would it
48:45would really really annoy me um if you took the opportunity away from someone else if it was just
48:53for done that won that because people tell you i'm capable of doing it you're suspicious
48:59i don't understand no they're suspicious also okay here's the dilemma ability yes
49:09if you want it that is or is it you just want to win this thing and then exclude someone one of
49:16these other people here from the opportunity i do like to think that i have a choice about what i do
49:22in life and where i go but i know that this type of opportunity is one you can't find in the times you
49:28can't cut it out and just apply for it it's something you have to go through this level of rigor to get
49:33through but i do hear your point about there are other people at this table who also really want
49:38it yeah i can't i genuinely want it yeah throughout all of these tasks i hope i have never trodden on
49:45anyone to get to where i've got to you have oh you have oh i hope i haven't oh yes you yes you have
49:50anyway but i don't want to tread on these three people here either i mean that katie yes sir i don't
49:56want to lose my my faith in in in mankind so i'm so i'm going to go on the record here and say to you
50:03katie you're in the final you're staying okay thank you just remember all the things you promised me
50:20okay all the things that we've discussed yeah just remember that
50:24try you've got something you don't win seven times out of ten you have definitely got something
50:33there but my colleagues find that you have difficulty in accepting criticism
50:42yeah they find you argumentative he wouldn't let me finish a sentence what i was saying to him was
50:47right yeah they find you difficult and i have to say that they're spot on as far as i'm concerned
50:56because i found that also i think that you need to grow up a little bit more i think you've beaten a
51:04little bit less defensive
51:05i can't see you're slotting in the organization trey with regret i'm gonna have to say to you you're fine
51:24this is the biggest dilemma that i have here at the moment um christina simon my colleague spoke to
51:46you today yeah yes you're up on on me you've uh you could become my biographer if you like
51:54you seem to have done a lot of research again doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that
52:00knowing about me is something which perhaps was blatantly obvious albeit that some people
52:06didn't pick up on it if you don't mind i'll flip back to you katie you don't look like a lady that
52:13has just been told you've entered the final and i mean
52:20perhaps i've given you a lot to think about uh and maybe put you on the spot a little bit but
52:26there's two people here that are very employable and if you have any worries in your mind
52:35now then i'd right i'd appreciate it i think everybody would appreciate it if you spoke up yeah
52:40yeah i know and i'm so conscious of that and everything you've said is right
52:46and uh i'm not wishing to apply excuses it's just i'm making a decision slightly without having
52:54had the courtesy to speak to the people who provide the care for my children
52:59so is that a risk it's a risk it's a discourtesy to my parents so that's all and bearing that in
53:08mind and the fact that these two guys so desperately want it i'm i'm i'm in a really bad place because
53:14i don't want to take it away from someone because i haven't made that phone call and got that answer
53:19definitively now that's not helping you or me or these guys so i apologize i haven't got the time i can't
53:26play with these people's lives waiting for you to make a phone call to mum and dad to see whether
53:31they're going to change and i know you've made me a promise that you're going to move uh if you get
53:36the job you know and it's not for me to pry into your affairs really
53:43but it may be that because you don't want to make a fool of yourself and make a fool of me that you
53:49might want to concede that now and let these other two go forward i don't want to make a fool of you
53:54and i don't want to make a fool of me
54:10okay um
54:11um i think it's more important that i have the courtesy to get my plans in place first
54:24and therefore i suggest i stand down
54:27thank you thank you thank you nick thank you margaret
54:49i've had a dilemma the three of you were very very very employable what you saw there was someone who
55:13couldn't give me the commitment i needed the commitment that i know that you're going to give me
55:20you're in the final
55:26you've done very very well okay congratulations to both of you
55:32off you go i'll see you in a couple of days time and i'm going to tell you what the final task is all about
55:43well there you go that was a turn up for the books wasn't it really
55:54you know i had a dilemma with three of them and that you know that got simplified as far as i was
56:01concerned you know i had my sneaking suspicion clearly the commitment wasn't there i suppose it's my own
56:08thought you should stick to one's gut instinct really she's a game player that's what she is a game player
56:19one job now two candidates
56:22the finalists have to design and launch a stunning building for london's south bank
56:40we thought about having like a boat type structure with help from some old friends having your
56:46fucking hissy fits and acting like a big silly little bit you'll be fine a truly inspirational
56:53building that makes business sense let's make no bones about it this is a big project and sir alan
57:00has to make his final choice it's a tough decision there's only one job you're hired
57:10switch over to bbc2 now to hear from tonight's sacked trio in the apprentice you're fired think
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