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While this mother worries about disciplining her twins, the oldest daughter lies for her parents' attention.
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00:00well I'm really excited to see what family we've got this week let's take a look hi we're the
00:07Saronis family I'm Elizabeth this is my husband Bob you don't need to play with your food make
00:11a mess we have three children Kate who is four and twin boys Teddy and Nicholas who just turned
00:18three look at them I work in the securities industry and I probably get home around 4 4 30
00:25every evening and my wife works a couple days a week our boys Teddy and Nicholas were born at 23
00:32weeks gestation the doctors didn't think that they had a very good chance of survival we are
00:39blessed with these two beautiful boys but they're naughty oh get over here right now how do we
00:46discipline them because we're just so happy that they're here and alive and healthy do you want to
00:52have a timeout things are so bad lately between the boys and there's so much fighting they throw
00:58they hit hey they bite ow don't bite me these boys are getting away we fall too much the other night
01:09the boys were bouncing on the bed Nicholas stopped Teddy came up pushed him Nicholas hit his leg and he
01:15ended up in a full-legged cast I am exhausted from chasing Teddy and Nicholas and they're always off in
01:23two different directions it's just a big game for them they run away constantly they're running around
01:28like headless chickens dinner is a scene out of Animal House they're throwing their food on the walls on
01:37the floor throwing their milk next you know the whole plates on the floor shoving food into their mouths
01:41spitting it out on the tables through your spaghetti all over the place feeding time at the zoo Kate is a big
01:49tattletale but she forgets to mention that she instigated it we're finding that they're controlling us more
02:00than we're controlling them hello lately I'm not enjoying my kids I want to be having fun I want
02:09to enjoy their company super nanny we really really need your help stay all done Nicholas super nanny we
02:19are desperate please come help our family hang in there I'm on my way this are real nice very much
02:38for being hello what's your name who's this Teddy hi Teddy can you say hi Kate could you say hi to
02:49Joe hi pleased to meet you how are you I'm Joe Joe when Joe walked into our house my insides settled
02:56immediately Joe is so calming she just brings this presence of warmth and calm Nicholas has had it
03:03he's on the couch Nicholas is not feeling well he's probably got a cold today I'm gonna be here
03:10observing so I just want you to just carry on as normal with the kids I'm just gonna kind of take
03:14a seat back and just watch you Teddy why don't we get you dressed yeah the first thing that mama had
03:20to do for the day was to get Teddy dressed but he didn't want to come here hey Teddy he runs a lot he's a
03:30big runner Teddy come here where did he go Teddy Teddy come here I'm starting to realize where mom's
03:52attention is going and it's not being shared with Kate Teddy immediately was running away from me
03:59under the table it's a big game chase me chase me let's not chase you all day come on Teddy let's
04:05get your shoes on come on want to wear your white shoes or your gray shoes why don't we put on our
04:12school shoes you don't want your school shoes on just give him two choices and move on sorry why is he
04:20so cross now I have no idea Teddy what do you want with the shoes Teddy I don't know what you're trying
04:26to say you want your rain boots great idea let's put the rain boots on there okay come on let's go
04:33outside and play in the beautiful weather while mom was outside with Teddy I went downstairs to have a
04:38chat with Kate Wow look how big this is do you tidy up down here I clean here and I clean there I clean
04:48everywhere you so you just very hard-working clean in everywhere all the fact she was talking and as we
04:57were communicating I felt like I was having a conversation with a teenager do you get time to play with
05:03mommy and daddy daddy daddy doesn't really play because daddy's lazy because he wants to watch his
05:10own movies really my mom's plays with me but when the boys cry we can't player card games you only get
05:20to play with mommy and daddy when the boys are behaving well Kate told me in a nutshell that she doesn't get
05:26any of mom's time because she's too busy having to deal with the twins when they play up well Nicholas
05:32doesn't come out in timeouts only only Teddy he doesn't understand that he has to stay in his time
05:40out because he did something bad and are you a good girl do you stay in your time out I don't go in
05:47timeouts because I don't do anything bad well that's just fantastic then okay let's go upstairs Kate's very
05:54smart and she's very mature socially and I could see those wheels turning around in her head when
06:00we were talking together when I went outside I saw mom was having a hard time communicating with Teddy
06:07what do you need it would you like to shoot hoops okay Teddy use your words and tell me what's wrong
06:15do you feel sick use the words honey I don't know what you want you want your shoes off say off mommy
06:22say off mommy Joe could see the frustration on my face that's my life my life is frustration lately do
06:33you think you're as frustrated as the children are on a different level I'm more frustrated I'll go
06:39outside when I get away from the kids and do you have any me times yeah I have you know a twins group
06:45that I go to once a month honey what's wrong you just want me to hold you you know Katie just has
06:52to go off because she knows you won't let me alone we were all in the backyard where do you want to go
06:57and mom was on the hammock with Teddy and she started to explain the boys and their birth and how difficult
07:06that was and the traumatic time in her life they were about a pound six they got down to about fifteen
07:15and a half ounces okay they both had ileostomies they both had PDAs they had heart surgery probiacs
07:23chest tubes the whole nine yards they were see-through their eyes were fused shut you could see their organs
07:30through their skin they didn't have skin yet we didn't know for about two months if we were gonna be
07:35able to bring them home or not so that's where a lot of the frustration comes from you know what I mean
07:41you've got these babies that made it and they don't have eye problems they don't have cerebral palsy
07:49they don't have any of the things that preemies are supposed to have and that's why when they you
07:53know do something it's I yell at them or get really angry it's hard because they're here you know
07:58they're God's gift to us it's an exceptional story I mean it really is and I feel that mom's in a
08:04frustration comes from the fact that she's just so grateful that her little boys are alive but at
08:11the same time she's having problems trying to control their behavior I'm not dealing with this
08:16situation very well so frustrated because I'm not happy right now how's it going thank you thank you
08:28for coming to our home you're welcome just having a good day observing and watching hi Nicholas how you
08:35doing buddy just after dad got home he ran out to do some errands be beckon just a little bit
08:41Kate was on the sofa downstairs and she was banging the bowls hoping that it would get mom's attention
08:54because she was busy dealing with the boys no no kidding that is not nice Nicholas okay that hurt Teddy
09:12what do you say to Teddy what do you say to Teddy what do you say to Teddy Nika yeah but that's not
09:20nice do the boys bicker like this between themselves instead of sharing or taking turns or whatnot they
09:27just hit instead of it this was meant to be playtime but the children were so bored there's not much fun
09:33happening here oh Teddy can you give it a rest hon please let's play cars Kate has foot cramps so I
09:47have to rub her feet it didn't look like Kate was in that much pain she looked bored I think these foot
09:54cramps might be more about getting mom's attention all right mommy's not gonna drop what she's doing
10:01every time your feet hurt Kate rub your own feet why do you think she's crying now because of her
10:10foot cramps she has them all the time I'm gonna go upstairs and just see Kate it was really sad Kate
10:16went upstairs absolutely sobbing and I needed to find out what the heart of this issue was
10:22she told me that she just wants some love she wants some affection for my mom and
10:31explained how she doesn't get that because mom spends so much time with the boys Kate your foot
11:00is your foot hurting you is it or or is that something that you tell mommy so that she'll give you
11:07cuddles what one is it it's it's when mommy gives me and admitted that she makes out that she gets
11:20foot cramps so that she can get her mom's attention and that's just heartbreaking
11:26let's see who's at the door let's see if we can do this with the pizza and you it was dinner time and
11:38I know that this time of the day is a real big issue for mom and dad Nick you're not in a barn you too
11:45think you don't like your cheese just leave the cheese on there that's where you put it there
11:49just leave it on your plate okay just leave it on your plate Nick you can't throw your food why do
11:57you do that you're just making a mess yeah like a troublemaker meal times for the boys it's playtime
12:05it's havoc come on guys oh Nicholas they throw drinks on the floor throw their food
12:13come on bud there's no discipline or consequences okay this family certainly have a few problems that
12:26need to be ironed out and so I'm going to sit down and discuss this with them Elizabeth and Bob I've
12:36seen more than enough and I would love to sit down with a pair of you and discuss the issues that I
12:40feel need to be addressed so let's go through I'm a little bit nervous to go in and meet with Joe
12:47because I got a few of the looks from Joe and I thought oh no she's going to have us for lunch
12:54let me start by saying how inspirational it is to hear the story with the struggle the love having
13:06two premature babies Teddy and Nicholas that were really let's face it a miracle you have an amazing
13:16daughter Kate thank you but you're living in the past where you were two years ago mentally is in
13:33the same place that you're at now it's hard to not remember that every day I thought I'd move past
13:41the fear but there's still that where I want to protect them but what that has ultimately done
13:46is stopped you from allowing the children to be able to progress I mean mealtimes is ridiculous
13:53they're running around doing what they want and you guys won't discipline the boys for the fear of
14:01what seeing that they've you know gone through what they've gone through and here they are finally up
14:08and walking and running around and playing like other kids do and we have got them some slack
14:13and that's created bad habits for the boys let's talk about Kate and she has these cramps in her feet
14:27right and not only does a foot cramp just appear but it also just goes now have we taken her to the
14:38doctors I mean what have we done about yes we have nothing wrong there's nothing wrong with her feet I don't know
14:45what it is I don't know for sure either but when the doctors are saying there's nothing wrong so you feel
14:52then that she lies I don't know if she's lying about the foot cramps yeah I don't know I'm not sure yet
15:02but how hard do you think it is for a little girl to have to sit and think in order for me to get my hugs
15:10and kisses I'll make out there's something wrong with me we shortchange her with our time the point
15:16I'm trying to make is how do you make a child recognize that they're loved equally when they're
15:23with their siblings the attention and focus and love and affection is always diverted to the boys
15:31I never would have thought about that until you just brought that up right now it's never crossed my
15:40mind now they're healthy and now they're running around and now they need you on a different level
15:48it did kind of hit home because there is a part of me where it's just I look at those boys and I see
15:55a pound baby in an incubator and as a family we need to move on past that and I'm very grateful that
16:03she brought that up are you ready to take that first step I am good because so am I with you and
16:10together we can make a really drastic change in a positive way all right enough of this talk let's
16:18get down to business I designed a routine to eliminate some of the stress for Elizabeth and Bob
16:26it's going to give them structure and a whole lot of fun for this family schedule now this routine
16:33has got sitting down at lunch is a first for you mom I want you to do it as well dad because meal
16:41times are an issue so we're going to set examples the children are watch they're going to learn we're
16:46going to instill manners magic play is all about being creative and jumping into your children's world
16:53when Joe told us about magic play I thought it was just a wonderful idea I think that Elizabeth needs
16:58the change and let go of the rain some and let them be playing a lot more and that's what we need
17:03to do here we need to loosen up a little bit and move on from our traumatic experiences and get silly
17:12love it deal all right Elizabeth and Bob never discipline their children so today I brought in
17:23the naughty point this is called the naughty point and at that point where the arrow is facing the child
17:31has to sit and take the consequence sounds good in theory I put one kid here this kid does something
17:39naughty over there mm-hmm so now this one's going to run away and I've got to go get that one that's
17:43right because this naughty point is a second one one for Nicholas and one for Teddy voila she has the
17:52answer there's two naughty points and if it means you place one here and around the corner you stick
17:58this up then they have to sit at the naughty points she's got me covered it was no surprise to see
18:06Teddy breaking the naughty point so soon Kate you want your crust off hold on Teddy almost ready
18:13guys guys guys we're almost ready okay what happened
18:19Teddy Teddy Teddy that's your warning no pushing Kate or you're going to the naughty point do you
18:27understand okay say you're sorry to Kate please no make him realize he needs to understand the impact
18:35of his behavior Teddy go over to Kate and give her a kiss or just say you're sorry
18:42you're going to sit two minutes on the naughty point we don't hit and we don't push it hurts people
18:51very much okay sit please super name knew better like put putting the naughty points up for the boys
19:02it's gonna be a long night dead smack in the middle of it move it simple as that
19:17take him straight back to here
19:21okay let's carry on I could see that in Teddy's face as soon as we were finished that he knew there
19:32was a new sheriff in town while mom was getting dinner ready Kate was falling asleep on dad's lap
19:41we're ready to eat let's get him on the table come on yeah let's eat din din okay oh I know what's
19:51coming next so do I I knew she was tired and right into the foot cramps and I thought here we go
20:01what's wrong Kate after my conversation with Kate I wanted to tell mom and dad there was more to
20:07this foot cramp issue than they were seeing or believing okay this is about bringing out the
20:12truth okay and her recognizing that's not the way to get your attention okay what's really bothering you
20:22okay are you tired when it's your child you have to doubt everything you know I've taken her to the
20:35doctor no there's nothing wrong with her feet she has enough potassium in her diet it's nothing physical
20:40no no it's not foot cramps ask her what is it she would like to do what is it she would like
20:46mommy to do you want mommy to do it it's hard to watch a child like that literally you can feel her
20:53pain you know I'm looking at Jo like Jo look at her you know this is not faking okay Kate come here
21:04Jo Jo is talking to you okay I know this is an issue that's difficult for mom and dad to accept but
21:12kids will go to drastic measures to get their parents attention mommy and daddy want to spend time with
21:18you after dinner but this temper tantrum has got to stop if you carry on having this temper tantrum then I
21:27will place you on the north point do you understand me Kate right then let me see a good girl behaving
21:34herself and when dinner is finished mommy and daddy will spend some time with you after please sit at
21:40the table and let's stop this behavior there is an element of Kate that wants to be able to tell the
21:46truth hoping that she will receive the love and affection that she wants unconditionally without having to
21:54lie you see the temper tantrum has elevated itself and it's come back down again once mom sat down
22:02with dad and they started to eat all of a sudden Kate's cramps were gone to see her 10 minutes later be
22:10absolutely fine it was eye-opening this explains so much I brought mom and Kate together to discuss Kate's
22:18storytelling because I feel it's an issue that mom needs to address now I want to discuss Kate's foot
22:25cramps now she felt she had to lie because it was the only way she could get your attention and Bob's
22:31attention and I want you to explain to her that when she does tell lies it has an effect on other people
22:35around her immediately made me very uncomfortable because I just have never talked to Kate like that
22:42I just have never said you know why are you lying Kate do you feel like you have to tell me that
22:48your feet hurt when you want mommy's attention okay you don't have to do that anymore what is that what
22:54she been doing okay if you can't say how are you gonna teach your daughter she's for her it's not easy
23:02looking at your four-year-old daughter and saying you're lying honey and look what she has felt like
23:10she's had to do because of her intelligence what Joe and I have just been talking about and what Joe
23:16is teaching me is how to spend my quality time with you and your brothers at the same time okay mommy
23:26didn't know how to do that before really well we don't have to make up stories anymore at first I
23:30was very uncomfortable but you know it worked Kate came right out and said no my feet didn't hurt I just
23:36said that because I wanted mommy's cuddles or wanted mommy's attention I mean I was surprised she
23:42understands the difference between the truth and a lie right here you come right up I wanted mom and
23:53dad to loosen up and have fun with the children so I introduced a technique called magic play Nicholas
23:59look at the pirate ship it's a pirate ship the first step is to make sure that you create that
24:05fantasy yeah he sees him now the second is to get everybody involved okay we're gonna have fun all
24:14right yeah there are no rules to this game all right just let it flow naturally when Joe wanted me to
24:20be a pirate it's like Kate not my gig oh my gosh look at all this stuff it's important that that gets
24:31involved with the kids not so that he just loosens up but also so that he takes the stress off Elizabeth
24:37because she plays with the kids all day take a look through your telescope in this trouble on the horizon
24:42I didn't have to force any kind of energy out of Bob or Elizabeth I love dressing up like this yeah
24:49well go for it then Bob you know this is what it's all about you know they just went with it they were
24:56finding the treasure it's a man it's a man it marks the spot it wasn't about foot cramps it wasn't
25:05about mom being frustrated it was about the treasure treasure Jojo had some treasure look at that there's
25:15a sword and I found a wand mom do I already have a wand it was fun it was great it was not a chore it
25:25was great watching the kids and I definitely wasn't stressed while doing it this is worth a million bucks
25:32right here honey I'd marry you all over again thank you that was the funnest game we ever had
25:38and look now they're having a dual fight here I still have one little breath in me
25:42so I'm off home now Nicholas can judge I have a hug bye Teddy see you soon Kate give me a hug
25:55thank you so much for helping us oh you're welcome I'm excited that Joe gets to come back I don't want
26:03to be nervous about it I'm grateful for everything that she's done for us so far I want to make her
26:08proud bye see you later take care bye bye the family really had a lot of fun today and I just hope they
26:17continue that whilst I'm gone I've left Bob and Elizabeth to implement the techniques I'm gonna be
26:26keeping my eye on them so I hope they do well boys you need to come out of mommy's car right now now
26:33this is your warning boys if you don't come out of the car right now you're going to the naughty spot
26:38you make the choice you're both going to the naughty point right now let's go let's see how you handle
26:47the naughty points putting you in the naughty point for not listening to mommy and coming out of my car
26:51you are not to play in mommy's car this is your naughty point
26:55stick with it mom don't get frustrated
27:02so I'm putting them back and forth and I'm not giving them eye contact but I put them right back
27:09and I'm trying not to say a word to them and it is hard to not say anything but I'm trying to be as consistent
27:16as she showed me
27:18come on mom stay tough disciplining the boys you know you haven't in the past
27:31I put you on the naughty point because you were playing in mommy's car
27:39and I don't want you to play in mommy's car it's not safe
27:43it's not safe do you understand
27:46thank you for saying you're sorry do you understand why
27:52that was great
27:55way to handle both boys at the same time
27:58I had to go to a meeting I couldn't miss it
28:05so Bobby had to do dinner by himself with the kids
28:08you want a PB&J
28:10see that too Kate
28:13okay there's your corn you guys got it you guys have to at least try it okay
28:18uh oh I can't believe we just did that
28:24dad those boys need a warning
28:26dad if you do that
28:27Nick why'd you do this bud
28:30dad are you gonna stop them and put them on the naughty point anytime soon
28:33I found it easier if you will not applying the naughty point at all
28:39it just I didn't want to push their buttons
28:41I felt it would just escalate just the exponential
28:45screaming and crying and I just I didn't want to send them there
28:49you're not getting there bud
28:50wow they certainly didn't learn anything there did they
28:52what's funny you've got a cast on
29:02you can't put mommy's shoes on
29:04do you want to go downstairs with Kate
29:06ow oh the totes
29:08go downstairs and play without getting into trouble please
29:14settle down mom take a deep breath
29:19no Nicholas
29:20no
29:20mom you've got to get a handle on this things are starting to get out of control
29:31Kate you are not in control of the boys
29:34mom Kate can get the naughty point too
29:37your warning do not go and take things from Kate
29:42and do not take things from Nicholas
29:44mom get a handle on this
29:46Nicholas is all over taking Kate's things away from her
29:50so I'm trying to break up that thing
29:51trying to teach Kate to not just throw every toy that we have in our entire house
29:56all around the basement
29:57I'm frustrated okay
29:58that's what's happening right now
30:01it looks like things are getting a little too bumpy
30:04I'm heading back
30:05the DVD is a great part of this progress because it allows the parents to see exactly where
30:15they've gone wrong so together we can watch that and make amendments
30:18okay so let's take a look and see what we've got here
30:21thank you in the naughty point for not listening to mommy and coming out of my car
30:25okay
30:26it was positive that you were consistent in placing them back
30:30it was positive for the fact that you gave explanation when you went back
30:35and you also got the apology
30:37so that was very positive
30:39oh dad's dinner I've been looking forward to seeing this
30:42uh-oh
30:45can't believe we just did that
30:47Nick said if you do that
30:50Nick why'd you do this bud
30:53huh
30:54I feel as though I'm putting in 110%
31:00I don't know if you even really want to try
31:03I do think I should try
31:05I'm blasting my ass Bobby
31:06right
31:07I just didn't feel that was the night to do it
31:09I thought it was going to be a mountain of work that evening
31:12to try to get them to understand the naughty point
31:15and get through it
31:16and finally have the night end
31:18so
31:19Bob what part have you ever thought that it wasn't going to be
31:23hard the day you start
31:25so you're saying this was a night that I should have gone to 10 30 or 11
31:28yes
31:29because this was a time
31:31when your child was clearly throwing food on the floor
31:35and you weren't doing anything about it
31:38but giving him excuses
31:39come on Bob
31:40okay let's run on the next one
31:41okay
31:43let's talk about this though
31:45because it is creating really bad habits at the table
31:48and what it does is make Elizabeth's job harder
31:52and I'm aware of that and I totally understand that
31:55so can we start today
31:56yes
31:57good did you hear that
31:58I heard it
32:00all right let's move on
32:01last one
32:04uh oh
32:04never win
32:05I'm in the bed
32:07you are not in control of the boys
32:09so she should have been given a warning there
32:11for that behavior
32:13so now she feels she can carry on and behave that way
32:16she's laughing at me
32:17Kate gets the naughty point and she would apply very easily
32:19this is a big world change
32:21yeah
32:22so this is I'm missing this whole part here
32:25I'm frustrated okay
32:26that's what's happening right now
32:28that's it that's all I could take
32:30that's when I cried
32:32so how do we change that frustration
32:36well obviously if I would have taken care of Kate
32:40I don't think anything else would have snowballed
32:42yeah
32:43okay
32:44so are we ready to roll up our sleeves and get working
32:47yes we are
32:48Elizabeth you on board
32:49yeah
32:51all right let's go
32:51then I'm bored baby
32:52mum is still getting frustrated with the kids
32:56so one way to eliminate that
32:58is to give them an activity
32:59that they can all focus on and have fun with
33:02we're going to play a fishing game
33:05all right
33:05and I need a big girl to be the time keeper
33:08ah
33:10ah
33:10okay
33:11we're going to use our fishing rods
33:13to dip it into the fishing pond
33:16all right Nicholas you can go first
33:18Kate we need ten minutes please
33:20Nicholas come on Nicholas
33:22lift it up lift it up
33:24hey
33:24well done
33:26you've got a fish
33:27okay Teddy's turn
33:28Teddy was concentrating so much so that he could catch the fish
33:32and when he did
33:34that sense of pride was just written all over his face
33:38and it was priceless
33:39yay
33:40good boy Nicholas
33:42that's it Teddy keep going
33:45Teddy wanted that fish
33:47and he just kept at it and at it
33:48and he didn't get frustrated
33:50which I thought for sure
33:51he'd launch the fishing pole
33:53but he didn't
33:54yay
33:55you did it Teddy
33:57the game was incredibly successful
34:00for everybody involved
34:02and I do think it's going to be a game
34:05that the children will want to play time and time again
34:07which is fantastic
34:08you did very well in keeping them focused
34:10and moving on
34:11and your enthusiasm was 100%
34:13this was a fun creative way
34:16of getting them to play with each other
34:18and concentrate on one thing
34:21it was great
34:22meal times are still chaotic
34:25so I wanted to teach mom and especially dad
34:28how to discipline the children when necessary during dinner
34:30Teddy
34:31honey
34:32it's dinner time right now
34:34can you
34:35move your
34:36trains and your cars to the side
34:39just put them right here
34:40I know but then you won't be able to eat your food
34:44Teddy didn't stop playing with his trains
34:46and dad needed to step up
34:48dad this is what I want you to say to Teddy
34:50if you don't show daddy that you're eating your food
34:52I have to take your cars away from the table
34:54if you don't eat your food
34:56I have to take the cars away
34:58okay
34:58can we take them away
35:01leave them there
35:03you've said what you're going to do
35:05if he doesn't start to eat his food
35:07so let him now make that choice
35:09I'm going to take these away
35:10if you don't start eating your food
35:12okay
35:12look at daddy Teddy
35:14see
35:14take one bite
35:15I know
35:16when I have the kids
35:17and I give them that extra leeway
35:19that I should not be giving them
35:20I do see how it undermines
35:22what Elizabeth's been trying to do with them
35:24good boy
35:25good boy
35:26dad did a really good job
35:28so he needs to stick to this technique
35:30so that dinner times can run a lot smoother
35:32it really felt good to be able to
35:34get through dinner the way we did
35:36I don't think we've gotten through a meal like that
35:38in a very very long time
35:40you're a very good teacher
35:41thank you
35:42it's easy to take suggestions from you
35:45and take advice from you
35:46because you don't
35:47you don't want
35:49you don't make us feel like
35:52we're loser parents of the century
35:54you know what I mean
35:55no I
35:56you know because of your courage
35:57and coming forth
35:58and realizing that you needed help
36:00I was able to give it to you
36:01I just don't want you to go yet
36:03there's a little bit
36:06of me that's not ready to say goodbye to Jo
36:09because she's so positive
36:11she's so encouraging
36:13she's
36:14she's such a strong
36:18person
36:19to have on your side
36:21keep working together
36:22remember
36:23it's really important about being on the same page
36:25we will
36:25I promise
36:26don't let frustration
36:28become anger
36:30she wants you to win
36:31she wants you to do well
36:33and
36:34it's hard to say goodbye to somebody like that
36:38you guys Jo Jo's gonna go
36:40can you say
36:40come on Nick
36:41Jo Jo's going bye bye
36:42I can leave this house knowing
36:44that I've given Elizabeth and Bob
36:47some good sound advice
36:49and have educated them
36:51in understanding
36:52what makes their children tick
36:54and ultimately
36:55what that will do
36:57is only bring them closer
36:59to their children
37:00that was nice
37:01wasn't that wonderful
37:03bye bye Jo Jo
37:05here we go
37:19now that Jo is gone
37:22I feel like
37:23in a way
37:23she kind of
37:24hugged our family
37:26and
37:26made us all
37:27stronger
37:28since Jo's left
37:31our lives are
37:32tremendously better
37:33I think Jo's helped me be
37:36a better dad
37:37I feel like a new person
37:41I feel like an energized person
37:43a stronger person
37:44get this one right here
37:45yay
37:47here we go
37:48get in there
37:49Kate hasn't had foot cramps
37:51since Jo's been gone
37:52she's been really helpful
37:53with the boys
37:54let's see if I have that one
37:55Nicholas
37:56drop it in
37:57pick them the best one
37:58he throws it away
37:58get this one right here
37:59alright let's put our buckets
38:00right here
38:01I definitely feel
38:03like the new sheriff
38:04in town with the boys
38:05when they look
38:06at the naughty point arrow
38:07they look at it
38:08and say
38:08oh naughty point
38:09they don't like to go
38:11to the naughty point
38:12sit down
38:12I don't know
38:14how to express to her
38:14but thank god
38:15she did accept
38:17to come to our house
38:18and help us out
38:18be careful
38:19Jo brought
38:21more happiness
38:22to our family
38:23we needed
38:25a little happiness
38:26thank you
38:27for helping me
38:28tell the truth
38:29take a dodo
38:31Johnny
38:33Johnny
38:45Johnny
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