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00:00Hello there, I'm living in Luton County, it's a car here today.
00:24Your door and everything's locked now, isn't it?
00:38Yes.
00:39Okay.
00:40Well, they're on as an immediate, so that's as fast as they can get there.
00:54Hey, stay where you are!
00:57Any sudden moves?
00:58Yeah.
00:59Attemptive murder.
01:01Attemptive murder.
01:02Get out in the back!
01:05Once a suspect is in custody, the police have just 24 hours to find out what really happened.
01:14The time is really ticking.
01:16Who's innocent?
01:19Who's guilty?
01:21We're good to go.
01:23This is your opportunity to talk to me.
01:26There's two sides to every single story.
01:29You sleep well?
01:30Mm-hmm.
01:31I woke up at half six and then struggled to get back to sleep again.
01:34Yeah.
01:35I think today's going to be a coffee day.
01:37Which is why?
01:38You sleep well.
01:54I woke up at half six and then struggled to get back to sleep again.
02:00Yeah, I think today's going to be a coffee day, which is why.
02:04Can I have a coffee, please?
02:05It's a great squad to work on.
02:09We've got a great bunch of people.
02:11We've got a lot of experience.
02:13We all stick together.
02:14We all know each other.
02:15It's more like a little family than anything else.
02:21We know how to have a laugh.
02:27It's probably me working so hard.
02:29You know, with any case, you'll get the positive result with teamwork.
02:35Without teamwork, you're never going to go out there individually and say, look, I'll crack
02:41this case by myself.
02:42That's never the case.
02:45On the right is the living room.
02:47And off the living room is the kitchen on the left and two bedrooms.
02:51So did the girls go upstairs after him when he ran upstairs?
02:54Yeah, they went after him.
02:55They ran upstairs.
02:56OK.
02:57The serious crime team at Bedfordshire Police are investigating more sexual offences against
03:02children than ever before.
03:04This case not only is a sexual assault on two young kids, but it's committed inside their
03:10own house.
03:11Yeah, he's got into it.
03:12Daylight.
03:13They were enjoying the carnival.
03:14He barges his way in.
03:17DC Mohamed Hussein is tasked with identifying the man who attacked two young girls during
03:22Newton Carnival.
03:23Yeah, they are two random children in a home.
03:25Yeah.
03:25To me, it's not as though he's out in a public place and he's made that attempt.
03:30He's actually gone into their home.
03:32Of course.
03:33And that is worrying, isn't it?
03:34Very worrying.
03:35Of course.
03:35Being a father myself and having children and, you know, nieces and nephews, you can't
03:42become obsessed.
03:43You become obsessed with catching that person, taking that person off the street.
03:53The mother of one of the victims has brought her daughter to the station to give a video
03:57recorded statement.
03:58Well, me and my friend were watching the carnival.
04:07We got a little doorstep and we watched it from there.
04:15And you said a man came along.
04:17Tell me everything you can about that.
04:19What was he saying?
04:42Let me start from the call.
05:02The offence itself was called in at 15, 25 hours.
05:07And that was the mum of the victim, the seven-year-old.
05:14It was a carnival day, bearing in mind.
05:16Cameras are looking at thousands and thousands of people.
05:19No chance.
05:24I know what he looks like.
05:28He was skinny.
05:31Skinny.
05:32Okay.
05:32He had the hair on the head, but not bad at the top.
05:38Okay.
05:38So hair on the sides.
05:40And what colour was his hair?
05:44White.
05:45Yeah, white.
05:46Okay.
05:46And how old do you think the man was?
05:51About 60-something.
05:54About 60.
05:55Okay.
05:56How about the T-shirt?
05:58It was a jumper.
06:00That.
06:02DC Hussain has access footage from 136 CCTV cameras in an attempt to find someone matching the attacker's description.
06:19I'd had a very rough pregnancy.
06:29I said to the girls, I'm going to go to bed now and have, like, a little nap.
06:33And then to be woken up about 40 minutes later by shouting, I'm telling my mum on you.
06:43I've then woken up to both the girls at my bedroom door informing me that a man had come up the stairs.
06:49He wanted them to touch his willy.
06:51He smiled and told the girls to shh.
06:53As a parent, you've got a duty to protect.
07:00And I feel that I let my guard down.
07:03That's my fault it happened.
07:05I shouldn't have been in bed asleep.
07:09She can't be any more than four inches away from me.
07:13She has to sleep in my bed of the night.
07:15It's like Blackpool illuminations in the house of the night because every light needs to be on.
07:19And I feel very guilty for it happening.
07:46Tom?
07:47Right, Sergeant Ham.
07:51Now, the descriptions provided by the victims are of a white male, bald, grey hair,
07:59and wearing a distinguishing black top with grey triangles on the back of the arms.
08:06The description is spot on.
08:12That's our man.
08:17Another man suspected of an offence against a child has been brought into custody.
08:42What's the offence, please?
08:50Grooming a child under 16.
08:55For any purpose?
08:58For sex.
08:58The 34-year-old Romanian man was arrested following a tip-off that he was planning to meet a 14-year-old girl he'd befriended on the internet.
09:08I know you've been arrested.
09:10How are you feeling now?
09:11Describe to me, how are you feeling?
09:14No going home tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
09:25What have we got?
09:26We've got a groomer, and I'm not talking dog groomer.
09:30DC Martin Hart and investigating officer Gary Hales are given the case.
09:35Can I have a look at the offence that you printed out?
09:42Child sexual offences, they're not a massive part of my workload, or haven't been.
09:48Adult attempt to meet a girl under 16.
09:50But it's getting worse.
09:52The online stuff is going through the roof, and it's going to keep going through the roof.
09:56Grooming, and stuff like that.
09:59Unfortunately, it is expanding.
10:02So he's come down in his car, and the meeting was planned for Luton train station, yeah?
10:07Yeah, his car is currently parked outside.
10:09They've searched his vehicle, and that's when they've found his mobile phone.
10:13There's nothing else in there apart from some baby wipes, which is quite apt, really, isn't it?
10:19Investigating child sex offences.
10:21It's not something that I'd want to do regularly.
10:24I've got kids.
10:26That makes it quite hard, and it affects you.
10:30It's not that I can't.
10:31It's not that I won't.
10:32It's just, it's not somewhere that I'm overly comfortable.
10:36Whatever, where's the conversation?
10:38Yeah.
10:41Hang on.
10:42You can actually produce the chat as one big document,
10:45and then we can just print the whole message, and that's her exhibit.
10:49They must review each of them before putting the details to him in interview.
10:56It's been crazy if you can't let me call you to somebody to speak to your wife.
11:05Yeah.
11:06The problem is, because of the efforts you've come in,
11:08you're not allowed to speak to anyone until the officers let us know whoever arrested you.
11:13So when they let us know, we give your girlfriend a call.
11:15Because the subject is so emotive, it is going to affect more than just the victim.
11:23For some couples, that's it.
11:27Police go through the door and marriage is over, family split.
11:31Everything goes wrong, you know, that's huge.
11:36Response officers are sent to search the suspect's home.
11:39All right, Lisa?
11:46Basically, the reason why we're here is Adrian has been arrested.
11:53And we basically need to do any searches.
11:56So, were you in a relationship with this gentleman?
11:58Yes.
11:58OK, so we're in a relationship.
12:00How long for?
12:01Well, I've known you for about three or four months.
12:03OK, so in a relationship for a four months, then?
12:06Yeah.
12:07God, I can't believe it.
12:09I'm absolutely shocked because that's just not the person that I knew.
12:17He just seemed a genuinely nice, caring person.
12:30Basically, what we're looking for is electronic communication devices.
12:33Does he have any at this location?
12:34The only one he's got is here.
12:36Lenovo, anything else?
12:44How about in his room?
12:51Got a mobile phone there.
12:53Knowing that he was in my house, me and my children, and that we slept together every night, I just feel absolutely disgusted.
13:02So, do I just keep all his clothes and that?
13:08I mean, we can't, we can't take him back.
13:10But someone will come and collect them for him, because I don't really want them to come back in.
13:16If you look here, carefully, there you go, there's our man.
13:32Detectives have discovered more CCTV images of the man suspected of sexually assaulting two young girls.
13:38They've begun to build a picture of his movements.
13:40At 15, 18 hours, he gets disturbed, he panics, and he leaves the home at 15, 18.
13:49You're going to see the CCTV zoom in in a second.
13:51There's a bus, there's him running.
13:55So, there's no side gates, no side alleys down here?
13:59No, no.
14:01The amount of confidence it takes for someone to walk into someone's house and commit such a crime.
14:09How many times has he done this before and never been caught?
14:12So, the motivation is, let's get to the sky before he strikes again.
14:21Right, here we go.
14:24Right, are you looking?
14:25Mm-hmm.
14:27The car park of Sainsbury's, three minutes later, after the commission of the offence.
14:36Here he is.
14:38Can you see the distinguishing?
14:40Yeah, we can see this grey side panel.
14:41There's certainly no shopping bags.
14:43There's definitely no shopping bags.
14:45Shopping at Sainsbury's.
14:46I'm, I'm, 90%, 95% sure.
14:51That's the man we're looking for.
14:55In order to prove the man seen getting into the car was the attacker,
14:59police need to show he could get from the victim's house to the car park in under four minutes.
15:03Tom, what I plan to do is, we'll, we'll basically follow the route taken by the offender.
15:12Okay.
15:17Let's climb it from here and we'll walk.
15:20Let's see how long it takes us to get there.
15:21Yeah.
15:21We know that he's run up here.
15:25Assuming he's gone down and used the subway.
15:28Well, there's no other way for him to get to the car park in 10 minutes and 21 seconds without using this route.
15:35You know your turf, don't you?
15:39I'm born and bred in Luton.
15:41I know the routes.
15:43I would know the little alleyways they would be taking.
15:46What's up there?
15:47Have a look.
15:48Centuries.
15:49The car was parked.
15:55It was parked there.
15:56You see where that vehicle is?
15:59It's easily achievable to get here in three and a half minutes.
16:01That's right.
16:01It's easily achievable.
16:03Good bit of work, mate.
16:03Well done.
16:04We just need to find out his name.
16:09Good morning, DCP.
16:10I'm DC Hussain calling from Bedfordshire Police, Luton Police Station.
16:14What I'm looking for is details of every silver vehicle entering and leaving the car park of Sainsbury
16:21between 12.45 and 1 o'clock on Sunday the 24th of late.
16:27With a trace on the vehicle registration, detectives are now able to identify the driver.
16:33Have a look at this.
16:34This is what we have.
16:36His face, his photograph and compare it again.
16:39I mean, the resemblance.
16:42It's just striking, isn't it?
16:44Martin Drews.
16:50Officers run routine background checks on the suspect.
16:54Do you know he had 13 TICs?
16:56Indecent exposure with intent to insult the femur.
16:58No, I didn't know that.
17:00This is him, isn't it?
17:03Yeah.
17:05When did he admit that?
17:061980.
17:07He hasn't got anything after 1980, either.
17:09It's not just one offence, isn't it?
17:1213, 13 years.
17:12And he's accepted the 13 for them to be TIC'd.
17:16So that means he, in fact, he'd done them.
17:18He's not being caught for anything in between.
17:19Doesn't mean he ain't been doing it.
17:20He's a danger.
17:21I met him with an open mind.
17:31I said, look, I've never met this person before.
17:32I want to physically see him if he matches the description.
17:37And as soon as I saw him,
17:39I knew he was him.
17:42What's the person, sir?
17:56Martin.
17:56Martin.
17:57Have you been arrested before?
18:00He's been arrested for a long time, about a year.
18:05Martin went to the property, yes.
18:08He has then exposed his penis to the two young victims
18:15who were at the address
18:16and rubbed his penis up and down
18:22and her T-shirt
18:22before running out of the house.
18:30How are you feeling, ma'am?
18:31I'm sorry.
18:33I'm sorry.
18:35I'm sorry.
18:35Police analysed the victim's T-shirt
19:02for traces of the suspect's DNA.
19:05Forensic tests on the victim's clothing
19:33have proved inconclusive.
19:36Unless Drus admits it's him in the CCTV,
19:39officers will struggle to build a case against him.
19:42This interview is being visually and oddly recorded
19:45and may be given in evidence
19:47if your case is brought to trial.
19:49I am DC Hussein
19:50and I'm stationed at Luton Police Station
19:52and attached to the Serious Crime Investigation Team.
19:55I listen carefully to my first question.
19:59Ready?
19:59Are you responsible for trespassing into a house
20:08with intent to commit a sexual assault on two child victims?
20:14No problem.
20:20Come look at the CCTV.
20:23Who is that person?
20:24No problem.
20:26You're sitting in front of me.
20:28I'm prepared to say that the person I see in the CCTV,
20:31this person is you.
20:32Describe yourself to me.
20:39With Drus Rafizi to admit it's him in the CCTV
20:51and with no forensic evidence linking him to the attack,
20:54the case is weakened.
20:57Only a positive identification by the victims
20:59would strengthen his case.
21:01There's no way I would have been happy
21:04for any of both of my victims to see the offender again.
21:08For the older victims, perhaps, yeah.
21:11I don't think it would have been fair
21:13to put the two young victims
21:15through that process of the investigation.
21:17DC Hussein has no choice
21:20but to release Drus on bail.
21:42She asked what had happened.
21:45I said, they found the man and they've arrested him.
21:47I said, but the police still need to do work
21:49and whilst they're doing their work,
21:51he's been released.
21:53She felt it was very unfair.
21:55I felt it was very unfair.
21:57I didn't like the thoughts of him
21:59still wandering the streets of Luton.
22:02He could pop down the town any day that he chose.
22:06And there was nothing I could do to stop that.
22:07That was completely out of my power.
22:17Oh, in theory, if there's enough paper.
22:25Detectives have reviewed hundreds of pages
22:27of internet messages sent by a man
22:29to what he believed to be a 14-year-old girl.
22:32They must now disclose the evidence to him in interview.
22:35The social media and the internet,
22:40it's a minefield.
22:45Things have changed so much
22:47and it's a completely different way of policing.
22:51It's a completely different way of tracking people,
22:54what they do, and it's easier to hide.
22:56I was quite happy in my life.
23:09I liked my job, my family and that,
23:12but at night times it was just a bit lonely.
23:16I joined a dating agency online
23:21and I had the usual idiots send me messages
23:25that I just ignored.
23:27And then Adrian just popped up and said,
23:30hi, like your profile, your nice picture,
23:33and can we, like, be friends?
23:35And we just chatted for quite a few weeks and everything.
23:40My family at first weren't very impressed
23:43about him moving in so quickly,
23:45but as they got to know him, they all loved him.
23:51What do you reckon he's going to say?
23:53No comment.
23:57It's about the luck we get.
24:02Are you good to go?
24:03Yeah.
24:07Looking back now,
24:08there were a few things that were a bit odd.
24:12I mean, he used to go in the toilet
24:14with his tablet or his phone
24:17and he'd been in there for, like, an hour,
24:20an hour and a half at a time.
24:23Have we got enough chairs?
24:25Plenty of chairs.
24:26If you want to sit on the far side,
24:28on the corner.
24:29Sit there for me, please.
24:32OK.
24:41We'll start now, OK?
24:42This interview is being recorded,
24:50and if the case goes to court,
24:51may be used in evidence against you.
24:59You've been arrested for the offence
25:00of sexual grooming.
25:02Are you guilty of that offence?
25:04I don't know what to call it, isn't it?
25:13OK.
25:14In terms of Facebook,
25:16who do you contact on Facebook?
25:20Have you got many friends under the age of 16?
25:24No, no problem.
25:27OK.
25:28So, tell me about Louise.
25:38You asked Louise her age?
25:43I don't want you on time.
25:47Do you want to refresh his memory?
25:49Yeah, why not?
25:50OK.
25:51This is exhibit DM1.
25:53So, what we have is a printout from Facebook.
25:57I'm not going to read every single message.
25:59There's 277 pages.
26:02We'll be here until tomorrow.
26:06At 3.22, you say to her,
26:09how old are you?
26:09OK.
26:11She replies, I'm 14.
26:13You responded, almost instantly,
26:16do you know how old I am?
26:17I'm 35 years old.
26:20She asks you if you've got a girlfriend,
26:22and you reply, yes, I do,
26:25and I love her.
26:26Why?
26:27Do you love your girlfriend?
26:29No, why?
26:30Of course.
26:31Of course.
26:32Why are you corresponding with this girl?
26:37There has been a curiosity from the beginning.
26:42OK.
26:44So, at 6.39,
26:46you say to her,
26:48did you watch some porn movie?
26:50I did not have the intention to,
26:56I don't know why I answered like that.
27:00I don't understand myself.
27:027.47,
27:03you obviously can't contain yourself,
27:05because you go,
27:06has somebody touched your pussy before?
27:12At 7.49,
27:14you go,
27:14stop now,
27:16because my penis start to be hard.
27:20Then, at 8.01,
27:23I'm presuming,
27:24this is a selfie that you sent her.
27:29Is that your penis?
27:33I don't know.
27:36As wrong as it is
27:38to have all these messages
27:40and this sexy talk,
27:42you have made things worse
27:44by arranging to meet
27:46Louise.
27:52The intention was not for sex.
27:54No.
27:55You say,
27:59I want to put my cock into your pussy
28:01to make you a woman.
28:05So, if that's not a request to have sex,
28:08I don't know what is.
28:11What you've been doing is,
28:17you've been grooming her.
28:19Yes, I moved up for sex,
28:21or did you move up for sex?
28:21Yes, but that was not the intention.
28:23I did not come with the intention for sex.
28:28Okay.
28:32Time is now 10 past 3.
28:34We'll conclude this interview.
28:44Oh, Jesus Christ.
28:47Hi, chaps.
28:49Yeah, great.
28:52Bless him,
28:53the old translator that we had
28:54after the interview,
28:55and he goes,
28:56if I'd have known what it was about,
28:57I wouldn't have come out.
28:58If people are prepared to plan
29:09and groom,
29:10that will be their first step.
29:12Each time, I think,
29:13they'll push it a little bit more.
29:16And to be fair,
29:17even if they don't get to meet the person,
29:20they can ruin people's lives.
29:24With most children,
29:26sexual offences,
29:27it's a psychological impact
29:28that in some respects
29:29will hurt more than the physical,
29:31because it's more difficult to box off.
29:35You know, you get cut,
29:37the scab's over,
29:38you heal.
29:38You might have a scar,
29:39but it's gone.
29:42With people,
29:43when they've seen something
29:44or they've been the victim of something,
29:46take a little thing
29:47that can then trigger their mind again,
29:49and then psychologically,
29:52that scar reopens,
29:53and they have to deal with it again.
29:57Martin tells us
30:06that it was not the first time
30:08he has done something like this,
30:10and within time,
30:11more than likely,
30:12he will do it again,
30:13as per his medical records.
30:16While he's been on bail,
30:18officers have successfully applied
30:19for permission to access
30:20Martin Juice's confidential medical records.
30:23He has been having sexual thoughts
30:26of abusing children.
30:28Amongst the notes,
30:30are details of a confession
30:31he made to a nurse
30:32shortly after the offence took place.
30:35He's saying that his sexual desires
30:37have increased.
30:39I need to make a photocopie.
30:41There's so much.
30:43He asks him,
30:45are you going to commit
30:46any such offences again?
30:48And he said,
30:49I can't guarantee stopping myself.
30:51The issue we've got now
30:52is obviously this is highly sensitive,
30:54third party material.
30:55Nowhere does it say
30:56we can use it as evidence.
30:58We've got a child protection issue.
31:00So he...
31:01He's a danger.
31:02He is a danger.
31:02So at the end of the day,
31:04any privileges that anybody has
31:06probably goes out the window
31:07because it's child protection.
31:09Absolutely.
31:11I respect confidentiality.
31:14But however,
31:15if that information involves
31:16someone who had just committed a crime
31:19or someone who had just about
31:20committed a crime,
31:21especially involving young children,
31:23that confidentiality
31:24is going to go out of the window
31:25because protecting the children,
31:28protecting the members of the public,
31:30stopping a person
31:30from committing a crime
31:32comes first.
31:36Drew's has returned
31:37to answer his bail.
31:39He doesn't yet know
31:40detectives
31:41have new information about him.
31:54Good morning,
31:55Lutensy ID.
31:57What about his hair now?
31:59He's keen.
32:00He's coming early.
32:02He's coming early.
32:13What's up?
32:18You want to fall in?
32:19Yeah, just quickly.
32:20Just so I know
32:20where he is.
32:21Detectives will now disclose the confession to Martin Drews in interviews.
32:51Okay, if you take a seat there for me, Mr. Drews.
32:57Yeah, okay.
33:01Okay.
33:02No problem, my pleasure.
33:05You ready?
33:07Yeah.
33:21No, Martin, you were arrested by myself on the 5th of July, 2015.
33:32Having had time to reflect within that period of time, is there anything which you want to tell me now?
33:40No.
33:41We have a disclosure, and you talk about your movements during the carnival.
33:54You say that you saw two girls on the stairs, and you described the two girls.
34:02I don't know.
34:02You say that you were invited in by the girls, who informed him where the toilet was.
34:10Is that what happened?
34:12No, I'm coming.
34:13So you were specifically asked in that meeting, Martin, would you expose yourself again?
34:20And according to this disclosure, you said you were unsure.
34:24Is that correct?
34:26No, I'm coming.
34:27How do you feel about doing all of this?
34:32Two young, vulnerable children, possibly scarring them for the rest of their life?
34:41How do you feel about that?
34:48No, I'm coming.
34:49Right, if that's the case, I'm going to conclude this interview.
34:56The time, according to my watch, is at 13.41, and this interview is being concluded.
35:02G, I've got an idea.
35:22Save it, what you've got there, send it to me, and I'll start at the bottom, and start working my way up.
35:30And then we'll meet in the middle.
35:33Detectives are preparing to submit their case against a suspected child groomer to the Crown Prosecution Service.
35:40Their evidence comprises of hundreds of Internet messages sent to what he believed was a 14-year-old girl.
35:46What message are you on?
35:48Have you got my dickies so hard now?
35:50Yeah, 11.52, I want to make you happy and feel good.
35:54I want to put my cock in your pussy and make you a woman.
35:58What a charmer.
35:59Yep.
35:59If we get a charging decision, a jury are going to fucking hate him.
36:05Oh, yeah.
36:06Good afternoon.
36:22It's Gary Hales here from Bedfordshire Police.
36:24Hello there.
36:26I've submitted an MG3.
36:30In a nutshell, a 14-year-old girl.
36:34You know, ask her about threesomes, and, you know, there was a 12-year-old friend, and
36:39that she was asking if she could join them.
36:47Thank you so much, Melanie.
36:49Bye-bye.
36:49That's good.
36:56Wait for the MG3 to come through and go in charge of the bastard.
37:02Surely there's a flight risk, though, as well.
37:03He's a Romanian dude, isn't he?
37:05Yeah.
37:05And clearly he's now homeless.
37:11Has he?
37:12He's been made homeless, hasn't he?
37:13Yeah.
37:13Yeah, the girl doesn't want him back.
37:14So the girl he lives with has kicked him out.
37:16And now the end is near, and so I face the final curtain.
37:33Hello, Adrian.
37:34Yes.
37:36Have you managed to sleep?
37:38No, I don't think.
37:40Thinking.
37:41If you could just explain to him that he's just been charged with a very serious sexual
37:49offence, if he is convicted at court, he is likely to receive a custodial sentence for,
37:55but also, I am going to refuse him bail.
37:59I am not going to release him from the police station.
38:05I just thought he was perfect, and everyone else did as well, so.
38:11If you can't trust someone who comes across every day as a caring, kind person, and yet
38:16can hide such a horrible secret like that, who can, you just can't trust anyone.
38:22So, yeah, it will, it will change how I view people now.
38:29The worst thing is parts of the house still smell of his aftershave, and it's horrible.
38:34You're good, yeah? You took this, wasn't it?
38:53You're done with the phone?
38:55Are you keeping him?
38:57We want to keep him, yeah. He said nothing in the interview.
39:00Nothing? No comment.
39:02Give me a text. Definitely, Tom.
39:04Cheers, mate. Thank you. Cheers. Thanks for today.
39:08DC Mohamed Hussein has to put his case to the Grand Prosecution Service
39:12for a charging decision.
39:14OK.
39:21Hello, CPS direct. DC Mohamed Hussein calling from Bedfordshire Police, Luton Police Station.
39:26About an hour back, I sent in the relevant paperwork for the defendant, Mr Martin Bruce.
39:35He's made no comment all the way through.
39:39He doesn't say that's not him either.
39:41On the 9th of July, he has spoken to his nurse
39:46and he's made a full disclosure stating that he entered the property
39:50and he describes the victim right down to the T.
39:54Yes.
40:01On Sunday the...
40:03That's because he had no comment, he didn't...
40:08OK.
40:09Sure.
40:11Yep.
40:16So, let me get this right in my head.
40:17What I'm being told is we haven't got a formal identification,
40:21so then I'm going to proceed with this.
40:25OK.
40:27Cheers, bye.
40:29The Crown Prosecution Service aren't prepared to charge.
40:32They have asked DC Hussein if the victims will formally identify Druze in an ID parade.
40:37The main bit is the ID.
40:38Yeah.
40:39I don't fully agree with what that CP advisor said.
40:43I've spoken to Chris Paris.
40:44He's talking about identification.
40:45Why would you want to put two small young girls through a Vipers parade?
40:49Absolutely.
40:50No.
40:51You can't explain to those young girls that they're not going to feel scared again
40:54if they see that man in a picture.
40:55Yeah.
40:56So what, you've got to let him go?
40:57So what, you've got to let him go?
40:58Yeah.
40:59I've been to CPS.
41:00Unfortunately, we haven't got the decision which we wanted.
41:01So, CPS have said they're, they've said that you need to bail for reasons X, Y and Z.
41:19Yeah.
41:20The concern of me is the fact that he openly admitted to a support worker that if he was
41:24given an opportunity, he potentially could assault a child in the future.
41:28But we have to go by paper rather than what we think.
41:31Can you just, how long do we have left on this paper?
41:33It's four o'clock in the morning.
41:34Yeah.
41:35Let me take ten minutes of fresh air.
41:37I'll go back upstairs, sit down for half an hour for a minute.
41:40All right, guys.
41:42Cheers.
41:43See you shortly.
41:44You okay?
41:45Cheers.
41:58I'm going to do a statement as to how I came to have Mr. Martin Druse as a suspect.
42:06With time running out, detectives hope detailing exactly how they identified Druse will persuade
42:12CBS to charge and remand their suspect.
42:19I'm 50% there with my statement.
42:21I just, I've just, just done so much blooming investigation.
42:25I'll have one more.
42:26Why is there only one piece left, then?
42:28There should be eight pieces.
42:30Do you know what?
42:33I can't work no more now.
42:34I was blasting through that statement earlier.
42:36You know, after eating, I've become sluggish.
42:38More sluggish than normal.
42:39Yeah.
42:40I know it's hard to believe.
42:41You ever become sluggish?
42:42Yeah.
42:43You all right?
42:44Yeah, yeah.
42:45I'm still here, yeah.
42:46Well, I don't know.
42:47I ain't got a clue what's going on.
42:48I don't know what to say.
42:49I can't say, yeah, I'm coming home or what.
42:50You know, I really can't.
42:51So, I don't know.
42:52All right, yeah.
42:53Don't worry.
42:54Don't worry.
42:55Don't worry.
42:56Just breathe, sort of deep.
42:57Thank you for calling the Crown Prosecution Service.
43:01Hello, CPS Director, D.C. Hussain calling regarding the defendant, Mr. Martin, in truce.
43:30So, if you can kindly have a look at my statement.
43:35If you read that statement, that will explain step by step the investigation which we conducted.
43:45And based on the traumatic experience they already had, I was of the opinion, I don't think it would be a good idea to put them through that.
43:57I feel personally for his safety and for the safety of the members of the public.
44:02Especially now that he knows that in the interview with people who he trusted enough to make that disclosure, they have given us all of the evidence.
44:11All right, Philip.
44:12All right, thank you.
44:13You're a star.
44:14Cheers.
44:15Bye.
44:16Bye.
44:17That's more like it.
44:18Well done.
44:20You know what, I couldn't have done it without all of you guys.
44:24Oh, I know.
44:25I know.
44:26I know.
44:27I know.
44:28All right, sir.
44:29All right, sir.
44:30So this officer has something that he needs to read to you.
44:50Charging you with the offence of knowingly or recklessly trespassed on premises with intent to commit a relevant sexual offence.
44:59Okay, sir.
45:00So also I've made the decision to remind you.
45:03The reason for that is I think you pose a significant risk both to the public, but also that the public poses a significant risk to yourself.
45:10I've been on my own prison for 10 weeks.
45:14Exactly.
45:15But, yeah, I don't really want to get into a discussion, you know, with you.
45:19I believe that you would be at significant risk both yourself, but also, you know, members of the public out there who should be able to go about their daily business without you trying to expose yourself.
45:32It's not fair that that man has done that to them.
45:38And, I mean, the images that I've seen of him are just the grainy CCTV images.
45:42I've not seen him face to face, but he does look like just a normal man.
45:48Just another face in the crowd.
45:51It's made me wary.
45:56You can't trust everybody.
45:58You can't trust everybody.
46:01You can trust everybody.
46:03You can't trust somebody.
46:05I'm just going to trust somebody.
46:07You can trust somebody.
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