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00:00I need to report a missing person.
00:08OK, what's the concern for them?
00:10The lady has disappeared and has gone off as a total stranger.
00:19You don't know who this stranger is, no?
00:21No, we do not.
00:23This is so out of character.
00:26Annette is known as the Queen of Fairfield.
00:30Everyone knows everyone.
00:32Most people don't lock the doors.
00:34It's like just having a huge family.
00:37How could someone be missing?
00:38There's something not right about it.
00:41Fairfield is not somewhere that you would associate with crime.
00:46A friend's got business in his house and he has not heard from her.
00:53He's absolutely distraught.
00:55I had him frying his eyes out because he doesn't know what he's done.
01:00I think it's crucial that we find the truth.
01:13Come on, please!
01:14Hands, you're on your back!
01:16Got to question everything.
01:18Believe nobody.
01:21It's almost a game of chess.
01:23Trying to slip up.
01:24This is your opportunity to talk to me.
01:26Priestess.
01:46Commissioner, please.
01:47How can I help?
01:48Oh, hello.
01:49I'm just calling regarding a missing person she left with a friend so
01:55technically she's not missing she hasn't been in touch with anyone so people are
02:01just getting a bit sort of concerned yeah but what's the name of the missing
02:05person it's Annette Smith okay and who are you to... I am Annette's lodger
02:15with no one coming forward to report finding the 74 year old safe and well
02:20for several weeks Bedfordshire Police's dedicated missing persons unit begin to
02:25investigate we're obviously just trying to work out if anybody knows where she is
02:28or can give us any information she's currently missing so I'm just wondering if
02:32you can help with our enquiries at all okay when did you last see her so we've
02:38got Annette Smith who's 74 years of age she's been reported missing by her lodger
02:43Scott Patterson and her family she's lived at the location for a number of
02:49years estranged from her husband there is nothing to say where she may have gone
02:53and it's very difficult for someone in this day and age just to disappear more
02:57so with an elderly female timers is the essence really obviously the more time
03:02that passes then potentially more evidence and information that's lost but
03:06at the moment we just need to collate a few more facts what we got now what do we
03:11know what do we not know and just gather a bit more information yeah
03:18specialist search officer Ben Thomas is dispatched to Annette Smith's empty home
03:24it is a bit of a strange one on the face of it there appears to be no reason that
03:32she has gone missing which makes it even more intriguing and that's what I find
03:37interesting is the pieces together it's the finding out about why whether that
03:43person is missing voluntarily or there is potentially third-party involvement or
03:49something more sinister has happened
03:53it's that building there it looks like an old chapel
04:00okay we're heading in
04:11it's already started to be packed up isn't it
04:18it's a piece we should have a walk through first yes
04:23it's quite big isn't it upstairs as well
04:28huge property
04:31see lots of evidence of clothing still left you know
04:43I mean there's evidence of clothing her clothing still here
04:47I don't know how much stain in it isn't there
04:50there probably water stains but lots and lots of paperwork
04:56divorce lots of books on divorce divorce and finances quite a lot of
05:05information on that
05:08time
05:10one open mail
05:12doctoral registry
05:15Scott A. Paterson
05:21if you can just introduce for the tape your name and your date of life
05:27Scott Paterson 29th August 1979
05:30thank you so much Scott
05:32so the reason for this interview today is because Annette Smith is currently missing
05:37missing and we believe that you were one of the last people to have contact with
05:41that okay and the last time you saw in it was the 15th of November 2023 yeah
05:47so tell us what's happened then um woke up not particularly early because it was
05:54a day off I don't usually get up very early on a day off
06:02I came downstairs and she was dressed with a pap suitcase and she said
06:07I'm going away for a while there was knock at the door I opened the door and there was a lady
06:12standing there she said I've come to get in there and yeah she she took the suitcase and then it
06:20went out with her and the lady put the suitcase into the boot of the car and then Annette got
06:27into the car and said I'll see you in a few days she said I'll see you in a few days okay
06:31this lady have you ever seen her before no uh do you know her name no no can you describe her to us
06:44white female short gray hair um plumpish but not fat yeah can you recall what Annette was wearing I
06:55don't remember everything but I do remember she had red leather shoes okay I didn't think oh
07:01there's something weird going on so I didn't initially contact anybody so I just thought well
07:07she's back in a couple of days yeah but then on the
07:12Friday a friend of hers came around to see her and obviously she wasn't there and this friend what's her name
07:20Pat Pat I've been friends with her since I moved in here 16 years ago when did you last see her
07:31I popped into the house that's when I found the house with the bed made up yeah nothing of her
07:40at all all the cabinets were all empty of all her personal bits and pieces that she had on there
07:47and that's when I gave stock text and said where's the next yeah and then he texted me to say that she'd
07:54gone and the last thing I heard from her was when she told me that she was peed off with everybody
08:01and trying to sell her property
08:06she says on the 28th of the 11th was an email I'm okay Pat I'm just that pissed off about the house
08:15everyone going behind my back to get it up for sir I just need to be away from it all at the moment
08:23that's the last message I've got okay the 28th of November after she'd gone after she'd gone
08:32over the last probably year or so her relationship with her ex-husband deteriorated
08:39he paid all the bills yeah and he paid her credit card bill every month for the sale but then he lost
08:45his business um and obviously couldn't carry on paying for everything um so then they started to
08:57put pressure on Annette to sell the house okay and that's kind of when the ball started rolling in
09:04terms of Annette obviously not being happy about the fact that she was gonna have to leave the house
09:10so you've been living in the house still I sort of stayed because I was thinking she'd come back yeah
09:17and she's contacted her ex-husband by email at some point
09:30but she made no contact with her ex via email but she made no contact with your ex-husband
09:32no
09:45no so you've not had any uh communication by text email no no nothing like that okay
10:08no there's potentially some family or friends that that she may have gone to that other people
10:15may know um the details for so yes he could have gone off with this lady we've got to identify her
10:21what about the ex-partner we don't know anything about him at the minute as well
10:24um husband's been pretty much paying the bills it's just always consideration that she has just
10:29disappeared off has been implied by family members that suddenly she's gone off in this car she
10:34disappeared off had enough of the conversations about um the house and its sale so it is plausible
10:40that she has gone off somewhere else and just wanted total freedom and disconnect
10:49people go missing all the time every forced daily management meeting we look at the number of people
10:55that are missing and the categories of those missing people whether they're high risk medium risk low risk
11:01you have a missing persons case and it's not common for that person to go missing it is unusual and the
11:09circumstances around it are unusual then the police will become involved and they must assess the
11:17circumstances and the factors around that missing episode to understand whether it is something that is
11:24out of the norm
11:35she is like a nan to me i'm very close with her she could see that i was learning to drive
11:41so i could go to college so she puts the money towards my driving lessons i believe it's something
11:46like five hours she paid for which helped greatly towards me learning to drive i ended up passing two
11:52months later oh you made her proud yeah which she wouldn't be told what to do with anyone so i was
11:59just like oh she's probably had an argument with scott and got a bit of stroppy and gone to stay with
12:03a friend or something and she'll probably be back in a few days or something i'm thinking of like all
12:09the places she could be that maybe no one's thought of yeah when do you think the last time you spoke to
12:14her was she tried calling me when i was driving to my dad's and i found this voicemail
12:22hello darling it's just me um i'm sorry i haven't got back to you yet and i've just picked up your
12:28message you hope have an absolutely lovely christmas and merry christmas to you darling
12:36okay love you bye luke goodbye darling oh man obviously hoping for the best that she's still alive and is safe
12:57there's an email that's been forwarded to us from a friend of annette's email address hello my lovely
13:16sue i'm good just away at the moment with no phone but getting a new one soon so i'll be sending out my
13:24number speak soon annette and then kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss a friend has received a moon pig card
13:34have a happy happy birthday promise i'll be in touch soon kiss kiss kiss love and hugs and kisses from
13:41annette kiss kiss kiss it could just be that she's elsewhere in the country and just doesn't want to be
13:46found we can contact moon pig and the internet provider and get obtained ip addresses yeah it could
13:54be somebody else pretending to be her yeah when you have a missing persons case i think the family
14:03must be extremely worried and i think that worry is just going to increase and grow
14:15stockfold house that's where annette lives with her huge dogs
14:24one of them ate a hole in her wall in the house what say something better
14:35you are funny boys aren't you yes let's have a look at your face that is annette
14:39annette is my stepmom of 40 years i was about six when she met my father she drove a convertible tr7
14:54which for a six seven year old boy was an amazing thing we ended up with a bond which was sort of more
15:01a mother and son and she would always cook nice meals and we'd go down to parks or we'd go shopping
15:11or we'd go out or we'd just put music on and talk when i was 21 i moved to london and the trains weren't
15:19that good back in those days so sometimes i'd end up going as far out of london as i could on the tube
15:25and then have to phone up and beg for a lift so she'd then have to drive from hartfordshire to pick me
15:30up but there was never any quibbles it was a straight away i'll be there in half an hour
15:36you just find yourself somewhere to sit down and i'll see you soon and you know we'd often sit there
15:42over a glass of wine we'd have music playing which would always come back to a bit of rod stewart or some
15:48classic 80s and um we just talk the world to rights and just see what's going on and i'd come
15:56home sometimes and she'd be like i'd be like i'm starving and she'd go i'll put some pheasant on i'm
16:02like i don't really want pheasant i just want like fish fingers and chips but i miss her i miss her immensely
16:11it's a hard time i'm suffering my family's suffering i'm very very worried
16:34now this case comes out of bedfordshire police say they are actually probing the disappearance of a
16:40pensioner this is annette smith she's 74 years of age and she disappeared on november the 11th of 2023
16:48so annette is from west wing fairfield park in stockfold annette is possibly vulnerable
16:53this day she's 74 years of age with no sign of annette smith the missing persons team escalate the case
17:02to bedfordshire police's major crime unit mcu quite often review missing person investigations
17:12and that's usually where somebody has gone missing for quite a while and there's immediate inquiries
17:17that you can do they've been completed and they've still not managed to locate the person
17:24so as it stands at the moment um we're keeping an open mind and we don't know what's happened to
17:28and there there's there's been no confirmed sightings of her the last person that saw her was a living
17:34lodger um scott patterson so obviously we've got the account now that's been given by scott which
17:40states that there was this mystery woman that we don't know who is who's turned up in a car that
17:45he can't remember much about when the missing persons investigation was initially done we have
17:49been provided some information so they've done some inquiries um of interest to to me
17:55is a moon pig card that was sent um and it was a couple that were sent around christmas time yep
18:01obviously i want to find out when they were saying and where and that's going to hopefully give
18:05us a good indication as to whether that was a net or if it was someone else doing that on her behalf
18:10let's try and establish when those cards were sent um what device that was done on
18:15um and then the ip address that that might come back to okay
18:27i heard about it wasn't she living with someone yeah scott all the women love him
18:33listen annette would take anyone in that's what she's like yeah yeah that's what i've heard she'd say
18:39take my baby really love i'll sleep on the couch yeah yeah so she's took him in and he's been there
18:45for years which is why i thought it was so lovely that he's repaying her now by caring for her
18:51bless him you know it's hard caring for someone and she thinks the world of him so
19:00if he doesn't know where she's gone then she don't want to be found
19:04i've known annette for maybe nearly 15 years she offered me somewhere to stay
19:22initially it was going to be just a few months and it turned into 12 years
19:38hello hello darling just to let you know i've ordered you some salmon and pillow rice so
19:46you've got something to eat when you get it brilliant that's lovely thank you
19:51and see you soon get on like a house on fire yeah we'd go to the theater we'd go out for dinner
20:00um we'd go on holidays so we just always got on really well
20:15oh hi darling it's scott hiya darling you must be knackered yeah would you like me
20:21to get me to get you a drink or something yeah that's great lovely thank you
20:27we can we can have a break if you want a break yeah
20:30all right what do you want to know when did you last see her i think it was about the 11th or 12th that
20:48she'd gone of what month so november do you have any concerns about the fact that you've not seen
20:54her for a while well i'm very surprised that she hasn't been in contact with scott they were like
21:00mother and son they have a fantastic relationship occasionally there are alarm bells that ring and
21:09you just get a sense that something isn't quite right and something more nefarious is probably
21:15at play oh last three or four years he became a bit like a carer okay she did have a have a stroke
21:26three or four years ago she basically went to bed she didn't she never came out of it really
21:32i don't know why she hasn't been in contact with scott more so yeah because he looked after her for
21:41like a long while i mean i had him fried his eyes out friday before christmas i don't know what i've
21:49done i'm doing three quarters an hour in crime on the phone because he doesn't know what he's done
21:55the reason i suspect a third party has been involved in her disappearance is pretty much
22:05around firstly the circumstances of annette going missing it's been said that annette left of her
22:11own accord but when you talk to her friends and family annette is being described as being quite infirm
22:18we also have no evidence that she left the address or that another woman collected her from either
22:24witnesses or cctv something has happened to annette and at the moment i would say that it is looking
22:35like it's somebody within that household and at the moment the only person we know of within that
22:43that household is scott patterson
22:58so
23:05so
23:09so
23:13Hello sir, you alright? You alright sir? Okay, we've had a bit of information received
23:35that you've been seen drinking and you've been driving, okay? So, do you want to set
23:40up the vehicle for us, we can have a chat? Thank you. Have you had a drink? Yeah. You
23:50have had a drink? Yeah. How much have you had to drink? About that much 4 o'clock. Right,
23:57okay. How long ago did you...? Probably about ten minutes ago. Ten minutes ago, alright.
24:04It was quite early in the morning when he was stopped. I'm not sure that's you
24:10usual behaviour. Time is 10.38, okay. Do you want to give me your hands, alright mate?
24:16I'm going to place you under arrest for session 4, under suspicion of going whilst under the
24:21influence of alcohol, okay buddy? Do you still have that vodka with you mate?
24:25Oh, it's on the passenger seat. Alright, okay.
24:29I'll be right back.
24:30I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
24:32I'll be right back. He may well be drinking more or have become dependent on alcohol through
24:38the circumstances of Annette's disappearance. I've got his phone and the bottle of vodka
24:45Cody had things in the car as the missing persons team continue their
25:01search the intelligence unit reanalyze the last reported contact with Annette
25:06Smith is anything come back and corresponded with an IP address for when
25:11those emails were sent after she goes missing yep so there's two moon pig
25:17transactions and 2nd of December and the 19th of December they're both from
25:25Annette's account they are from the home address the IP oh are they yeah I'm gonna
25:36think if we're putting Scott at the location on that day yeah we know that
25:39you know it can't be Annette that's sending this out it's got to be him
25:43isn't it yeah it's got to be Scott
25:53I should think most people know about this job it is the investigation of Annette
25:59Smith 74 year old from Fairfield Park in Stockfold and she has been missing since
26:07November so the last proof of life for Annette comes from some spurious emails
26:13which were sent between the end of November and Boxing Day in December so the
26:20IP addresses of these emails has resolved back to the home address of West Wing
26:26Fairfield Park in Stockfold which was the tipping point for raising this to a
26:32murder investigation we obviously have to keep an open mind regarding the
26:37circumstances of the house sale but we have ruled out any other person who might
26:42be involved other than Scott Patterson one of the the things that raises
26:47suspicion is the fact that Scott says Annette left her own accord and she was
26:53collected by a woman we don't know who this woman is Scott can't tell us who this
26:58woman is and neither can any family members and we don't have any evidence of
27:03that happening either from witnesses or we don't have any CCTV evidence or
27:08anything like that the plan is to obtain a section 8 pace warrant to be
27:13conducted at Fairfield Park is the current home address for Scott
27:20Scott Patterson can we come in please Scott I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Annette
27:36Smith you do not have to say anything but make harm your defense if you do not mention one question
27:40why is this gent here what's the offense he's been arrested on suspicion of murder of Annette Smith
28:10your surname please it's Patterson with one t
28:14p-a-t-e-r-s-o-n yeah and your first name Mr Patterson it's Scott sorry Scott
28:20Patterson started working in the care home which was a children's home in
28:26Wilbury Road Letchworth then Scott became a care manager at one of those
28:31children's homes on the outskirts of Luton he stopped working in the care home in
28:362010 saying that he'd been made redundant and there was something that didn't quite add up
28:44around around that and he felt like he left under a cloud of sorts he worked at the farm
28:50shop in the butchery he's not a qualified butcher but he learned what he needed to do watching the
28:57butchers work is this domestic related yeah they were living together so in 2014 Scott had moved in
29:11with Annette Scott and Annette instantly got on really well and there was an instant connection
29:15we've spoken to Gareth a friend of Scott's who he's known for 18 years or so he says that he's very
29:26kind kind of soft never kind of witnessed him lose his temper at all he has no police footprint which
29:36you know again is strange for somebody to go from absolutely nothing and no involvement with the police
29:42at all or you know the law in general to then understand whether he is actually capable of
29:50murdering somebody so close to him any mental health conditions I need to be aware of
29:56are you feeling at the moment okay don't you feel well okay would you like any legal advice
30:03are you sure it's an ongoing right any reason why not okay
30:09uh how was he fine he's just sort of laid back chilled if we had to describe somebody when he said
30:21he didn't want a solicitor I was like okay but we always do that don't we maybe he's genuinely a
30:28witness or maybe he feels like he doesn't need him shoes she was wearing when she left where's
30:33they come from we've got photographs from her bedroom whose bedroom hers the shoes he's described
30:39that she wore when she left yeah so she clearly wasn't wearing them clearly wasn't wearing them when she
30:45she wasn't wearing them
30:52Scott was good to me because I suffer mental health and he's just like hi gorgeous hi my lovely hey uh
31:05how are you doing are you all right we were messing each other we were watching Antiques Roadshow he was at
31:11his house I was at my house and I was texting in pictures going oh look at that brooch I said 40
31:16grand and he said yeah that's good we'll have two like just joking he's just such a lovely person
31:24always caring always kind always looks out for people always he'll probably kill me for showing
31:30this picture but not literally kill me but you know I mean
31:34he makes me feel so loved looked after he's kind he's genuine he is such a nice bloke he really is
31:51Bedfordshire police is dedicated forensic unit search the suspects home and vehicle for any trace of the
32:01missing woman there is hair stuck to this one yeah there's a rape on it yeah with him being in custody it's
32:20really important that we try to gather as much information as possible and clearly that goes back
32:27to the vehicle as well and whether there might be anything in the vehicle that might assist the
32:33investigation in some way to be fair I think a lot of this is going to be fairly relevant stuffed toys
32:43and things like that from what I've seen the Christmas killer 12 days of murder and oh god
32:50don't hide it you like finding all the weird stuff it is weird who would have thought you would have
32:59found something like that in the car today you wouldn't have done would you but we have is it
33:04relevant not really but is it weird yeah okay
33:09I think putting to him the evidence about the moon pig cards and the presence that he sent and the
33:33fact that the IP addresses for those transactions have come back to the house after Annette supposedly
33:39gone missing I think is is it's crucial really isn't it and having that based at the at the home
33:46address shows that if nothing else he has knowledge on what's happened that needs to be managed and put
33:55to him clearly he's suggesting that Annette is missing but has managed to send these cards and we really
34:04need to probe that don't we during interview and absolutely yeah really get some answers from him on that
34:10he doesn't want a solicitor so yeah yes it is so they are going to go into interview with him ASAP
34:26yeah in case you didn't catch our names earlier I'm Sophia okay so we'll be interviewing you today
34:56yeah
34:56this interview is being recorded this um is also being monitored and by our supervisors
35:07within this investigation so they're just over the way and they're monitoring it live time so
35:11they're watching as it's playing so I know that you've been asked if you want a solicitor and you've
35:17declined that um do you want a solicitor no okay so we know that emails have been sent from
35:26Nets account okay and was it you
35:30yeah and why did you do that
35:42I just still
35:47I really don't know
35:51I guess I just wanted to buy more time
35:58so you're here because you've been arrested for the offence of murder against Annette Smith
36:04so are you responsible for the death of Annette Smith
36:08yes
36:19I think we were quite surprised when he said that he killed her
36:35I don't think he's a hardened criminal I think he might actually sort of I don't even know whether it's regrets exactly but a relief to get to tell someone yeah yeah the only thing we don't want to do is go to CPS for a decision right this very minute because we got a couple more interviews planned
36:53we have had some communication from CPS and they've raised a couple of areas for us to focus on today one of which is around getting some statements from family
37:11Annette was my second mom really she was very energetic happy enthusiastic person really her approach to life was she'd wake up with the spring in a step and she'd go to bed with the spring in a step her pleasure was from seeing other people happy
37:29when Annette had a stroke and sort of fell ill and unfortunately then mobility and her struggles in life sort of took hold I had a bit of comfort that Scott was there who seemed a nice person
37:54sometimes he'd tag along and we'd go out for lunch and you know beard caring guy just ask nice questions and seem a nice guy he was more of a family friend
38:15for the next interview I'd really like to try and understand the mechanics of what he did so because there is no obvious scene at the scene
38:23at that house yeah so I think that the way to go forward now is break it down into different interviews with a set agenda for each interview we know he's talking now so we can explain to him right in this interview we want to really focus on this step by step we're not trying to catch him out now we're just trying to give him the opportunity to tell us everything while showing that he from our point of view showing that he is of sound mind
38:51yeah because the big thing is now preserving that confession and that was pretty intense do you guys feel happy to continue and keep interviewing with him there is nothing wrong with you know taking a break and coming out and regrouping and you know having these conversations so I think it's probably going to be quite a lengthy time in custody
39:13yeah so get what he's saying now is positive so just keep it up yeah
39:20so in our first interview you have said that you have killed Annette we need to understand how this has happened
39:40I don't mean to start to be honest but she was taken ill a few years ago she had a mini stroke and I when she got back to the house I was looking after her and she wouldn't get out of bed or do anything for herself
40:07um so I was making meals for her and just helping her do things really and over time it became I don't know how to explain it but it just became difficult and she became quite demanding
40:35and she would constantly call my name and I just felt obliged because I'd lived there for so long as her guest and the resentment kind of really as I say sort of kicked in towards the end
40:57um to the point where I barely sleep because I'd just be listening out for her calling my name for something and the situation at home got
41:04and the situation at home got just got too much and I couldn't see a way out of it and I just snapped one day
41:19this was November and over this period of months he's done everything that he possibly could
41:28to try and hide the fact that a that Annette was dead and secondly um obviously that he was involved in it
41:38you do start thinking to yourself how can somebody carry out a murder one day and then for the next few months
41:46just carry on with their life as normal it just really raises questions with regards to the kind of person that he is really
41:55which again is another reason why it's so important for us to continue the investigation
42:01I took her statement from a cleaner she said Annette always spoke really highly of Scott and if they went on holiday they'd even like sleep in the same bed
42:11Annette used to describe Scott as her world Scott would always go to the shop for her and it would always be the same she'd always want chocolate 40 cigarettes and some brandy
42:20but just of note she said whole house is disgusting always a mess always dirty food plates everywhere
42:27Annette's bedroom was the worst should be like laying in her own urine there was like cigarette ash around
42:34brandy glasses wine glasses surrounded her
42:37when Scott took on those caring responsibilities he really should have you know made sure that the house was clean and tidy
42:47and then Annette herself was looked after looking at the unkempt nature of the house I would have to question how capable he was
42:58or how reliable he was in actually providing that care to Annette potentially there is an element of neglect there as well
43:06Tell me in as much detail as you can what happened that day
43:17Well it happened in the evening at night I waited for her to go to sleep
43:25How did you know at what point you'd warm the sleep?
43:27Oh I couldn't hear her snoring
43:29Okay whereabouts were you in the house when you were waiting for her to go to sleep?
43:32My bedroom
43:34What were you doing? What was going through your mind?
43:37I don't know I just was weirdly calm just had the TV on
43:44I think because I'd kind of been thinking about it for a few weeks
43:49it was just something that had played over in my mind
43:53so it was almost like I was ready when the time seemed right
44:00I went downstairs after Annette had fallen asleep
44:06and yeah I put her over her face until she stopped breathing
44:14and I left her in bed for the night
44:23When you were suffocating Annette did she wake?
44:26No
44:27She stayed asleep?
44:28Yeah
44:29Did you at any point think to stop?
44:33I did for a split second
44:36because I realised what I was doing was wrong
44:40but then I kind of thought I wasn't sure
44:48I don't know I just decided to carry on
44:56And how did you feel whilst you were suffocating her?
45:03Just the same
45:05Just an almost I guess a sort of sense of relief
45:11and then the next morning I moved her to the understairs cupboard
45:20just to kind of get her out of view
45:24but it's for quite some time afterwards
45:28that I decided I need to sort of
45:35start to think about getting rid of the body
45:39Okay
45:40But where is Annette?
45:58Scott had really changed
46:00It was almost like there was two sides to him
46:03Are you saying you don't remember when you don't want to give me an answer?
46:07This is Scott here
46:08You can see he's got two two cases on the trolley there
46:11Okay
46:12The last one is him coming out with an empty trolley
46:15He started work last July
46:17It did involve butchering
46:22There isn't a full body
46:24Support information for the issues raised can be found online at channel4.com slash support
46:39And you can see the next episode of 24 Hours in Police Custody
46:43Police Custody with the concluding part tomorrow night at 9 here on Channel 4
46:50We'll be back on now
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