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00:00the cookie factory was a big place everybody worked there did I like a lot of people there
00:17no but I put on a smile people find me intimidating I had no respect for her I
00:26think she was a little bit of a bitch at first she thought she was the boss of the group the
00:32cookie factory was becoming pretty hostile 9-1-1 Center what's your emergency she kept
00:41screaming she's gone she's gone I hate her she's a monster I wish I never called her a friend
00:56the fact that a friend could do this to another friend is uh just incomprehensible
01:03Perry is a small town it's in upstate New York they have about 6,000 people who live there
01:26and it's you know for all intents and purposes pretty idyllic Perry is similar to a lot of
01:34small towns but at the center was their cookie factory the town smells of cookies as soon as
01:42you drove to the the plant and opened your door I mean there it was smack in the face
01:47they make every kind of cookie you can think of if you're looking for cream filled cookies they're
01:58making them down to the little crushed pieces of cookies that are going in your favorite ice cream
02:02the cookie factory was a big place it was easy to get hired I mean everybody worked there was a great
02:14job with good benefits good hours and a lot of the employees there were women and just like the
02:21cookies the drama here gets served up hot and fresh they go from high school straight to the factory so
02:30they would still bring what they did in high school into the factory as far as like drama rumors you know
02:37starting problems between people because you know they didn't like that they were friends or
02:43um they didn't like that they were talking to that person because they were mad at them
02:47but across the lot from the cookie production line the flatbread plant offers a refuge
02:58here the baked goods are savory and for the most part the drama stays off the menu
03:05I love flatbread because it's totally different from being at the main plant there's no fighting there was no
03:15arguing and that's where I met Donna she was 18 I was like this girl's cool I mean tattoo you know young
03:27spunky it was like me so I saw myself we became friends and then Jordan came in
03:36I was hired at the flatbread plant out in 2008 the first time I met Jordan oh the attitude like people
03:52thought I had an RBF resting bitch face no this girl had a resting bitch face yeah I get this a lot
04:00people find me intimidating I put a front on just because I had heard about Heather I was told stay
04:08away from Heather you know she's bad news don't get wrapped up in her business a lot of people didn't
04:15like Heather and Donna they say that they ran the flatbread they act like they were bosses but getting
04:22to know them I was like what are you guys talking about they're they're sweet so fast forward two
04:29days later and that's the first time I actually talked to Jordan a lot of people say you know when
04:34you see somebody or with that resting bitch face don't just make assumptions yeah I did that we became
04:45close friends like I wanted to protect her I was the mother hen and I would give my opinion and I would
04:53hear okay mom with the eye roll Jordan was funnier than shit just her facial expressions and just stuff
05:03that came out of her mouth where's the next party but that was my job I was a social butterfly
05:08Heather Donna and Jordan quickly become inseparable but the Queens of the flatbread make room for one more
05:20Kira moved in next to my parents and she was 31 she needed a job and I'm like hey put in your application
05:35where I work and she did she's tough straight shooter like when something came out of her mouth she's serious I
05:45think your was a little bit of a bitch at first she thought she was the boss of the group I found
05:52her intimidating if I didn't do something that it was her way then I get yelled at that's how you're
05:59supposed to do it this is how you're supposed to do it Kira was tough just her but she also had a
06:07funny bone she was mean but I got to know her and then eventually you know we keep friends
06:16the trio becomes a quartet and the click is complete life in flatbreads is good
06:28it's late 2008 everything is going great these four are loving working there together there's no
06:38drama it's super chill and then they get the news that they are being moved to the main factory across
06:47the street this is not good news for this crew the main plant was like going back to high school so
06:57you got to tweak your personality you have to did I like a lot of people there no but I put on a smile
07:06I mean you had your higher-ups and you had the boomers they were group of you know five six people
07:16there were the older generation they've had been there for 20 plus years they were gonna retire there
07:22for decades the boomers have ruled the factory floor they outlast managers outwit rivals and they
07:33know what it takes to survive their ringleaders are Pam and Gina now they didn't call themselves
07:40boomers I don't think they particularly liked being called boomers but this is what the younger girls
07:46were calling them they certainly do not like change they'd been pretty much running the show for a long
07:53time management respected them and trusted them they knew how everything was supposed to work and they
07:58wanted the factory to continue running the way that they wanted it to and to these boomers Donna Kira
08:05Heather and Jordan aren't just the new generation they're a direct threat I mean a lot of times I felt
08:20like it was a competition between the boomers and the Millennials just because we were younger beautiful
08:27we had energy I think that they thought we were there to replace them
08:34but boomer in chief Pam knows the best way to fight back is to stir the pot Pam was she was quite a handful a lot of times Pam would go to Heather and say hey did you hear what Jordan said about you and Heather would come at me and be like did you say this about me
08:57and I'm like no I didn't so it would be back and forth like that I'm the type of person that actually takes things to heart I'd get really upset and I'd be mad I'd be pissed off all day you really couldn't talk about anything personal or anything you did over the weekend because then if you talked about what you did over the weekend then the entire plant would know
09:19that was Pam she loved to turn us against each other and cause trouble
09:26this rivalry between the boomers and the Millennials it was not good
09:34tensions are extremely high in the main factory and then management brings in another new girl
09:41in 2009 25 year old Desiree withy enters the factory
09:48first time I saw Desi I was on break she was very beautiful very beautiful
09:56she came in and I looked at her and she looked at me and I could tell either she'd be your best friend or she'd kick your ass
10:04things were definitely about to get changed up at the cookie factory
10:15even though it seems like just workplace politics there were very real stakes and very real consequences
10:25to the attitudes within the cookie company
10:27and unfortunately the consequences ended up being deadly
10:32once Desi came to the plant we clicked we were two piece in a pod within months we were wifey
10:50calling each other wifey
10:51Kira was mean to a lot of people especially the new people that would come in
10:57but when Desi started it wasn't like that with her
11:00she wasn't mean to Desi at all
11:03her joining our group was fantastic
11:07we all hung out as much as we could
11:10we'd go down to the bar and get a few drinks
11:12you know we could do things that friends do
11:14Desi was fun
11:19she was a single mother
11:20she always had something to talk about
11:23Desi
11:24she always walked with her head held high shoulders back
11:28Desi was the type of person you didn't want to mess with
11:31and Desi was the type of person who would get us all onto the dance floor every song
11:37and it would be nothing but dancing all night
11:40not only is she popular
11:50but Desi quickly rises to become the factory's star employee
11:54I feel like Desi could fix anything in that factory
12:00like you show her one thing and
12:04she knew how to do it right then and there
12:06Bob the builder had nothing on that girl
12:09management loved her
12:12but I could understand why some of the boomers would feel very threatened by her position there
12:16they've worked there for a long time
12:18and things seem very different now that Desi's around
12:21and Desi isn't the only member of the group upsetting the boomers and their leader Pam
12:29Pam liked the scale
12:33where when the cookies come up
12:36they pack into the box
12:38you have to weigh it
12:39when it comes down it weighs
12:41and then you go on
12:43that was her job
12:44Pam loved it
12:47Pam loved it
12:49so Pam is furious
12:53when she discovers that Donna has been given her coveted role weighing the cookies
12:57and now she's in this cold room putting cream in the cookies
13:01and she feels slighted with the change
13:03and that's one thing about Pam
13:06she was vocal
13:08and she was not happy
13:10she was throat fit
13:11Pam was there for a very very long time
13:16years
13:17so she felt entitled
13:19she felt like whatever she said
13:20should go
13:21so she complains enough to management
13:24and suddenly she gets her job back
13:26so now management's trying to figure out
13:32where do we place Donna
13:33and as a huge shock to Kira
13:35Donna is given Kira's job
13:37packing the cookies
13:38in the main plant
13:41factory floor drama
13:43can turn even the closest allies
13:45into enemies
13:46Kira was upset
13:49for the fact that
13:50it was Donna
13:50that had gotten the job
13:52Kira didn't think she was qualified
13:54to do the job
13:55Donna and Kira
13:57they're very strong at it
13:58they didn't really agree on a whole lot
14:00especially when it came to like work
14:02I think there was part of Kira
14:05that felt like Donna
14:06was breaking girl code
14:07like Donna shouldn't have even accepted
14:09the offer of this job
14:10it's sad because they were all so close
14:14and then something like this
14:15really just started breaking them apart
14:17I mean Kira was so furious with Donna
14:21she wouldn't even speak to her
14:23Kira sees Desi and Heather
14:26still chatting with Donna
14:28she feels like they're betraying her
14:29I mean it doesn't take long
14:32for a group to fall apart
14:33when there is a rift like that
14:35Kira really moves away
14:36from the millennials entirely
14:38she's now taking her breaks
14:40going out to smoke with Pam
14:41and the boomers
14:42and falling in with their crew
14:44the group of four
14:52is now down to three
14:53and the boomers are poised
14:55to finish them off for good
14:56one of the mixers
14:58called me baby girl
14:59and I gave him a hug
15:03and the next thing I know
15:07we're sleeping together
15:09and it's like no
15:12no
15:13that's not true
15:16he's married to my aunt
15:17it's heartbreaking
15:20I'm married
15:21like I don't need
15:22this getting back to my husband
15:25there were rumors
15:27a lot of rumors
15:28if you were talking to a male
15:32at all
15:33you were sleeping with him
15:34Pam was definitely behind
15:36a lot of the rumors
15:37Kira and Pam were now good friends
15:40Pam would go directly to Kira
15:43with information
15:44and then it would just
15:46go down the chain
15:47it's almost like Pam and the boomers
15:50are making accusations
15:51intentionally
15:52to pick them off
15:53one by one
15:54and completely break down
15:55this group of millennials
15:56gossip stirs things up
16:04but if you really want to take someone down
16:08you go to management
16:10Pam would go back to management
16:14with information
16:15that we were doing
16:16or
16:17you know
16:18what we supposedly
16:18shouldn't be doing
16:19or
16:20you know
16:20we're not working hard enough
16:22every time I turned around
16:25I was being pulled off that floor
16:27because
16:28I did something
16:29and it's like
16:30what do you mean
16:31but
16:32it's a write up
16:33I look around
16:36Donna
16:37would be getting written up
16:38for something
16:39Jordan
16:40would be going
16:42into the office
16:43because
16:43something's going on
16:45Desi
16:46she's
16:48as clueless
16:49as the rest of us
16:50and it just kept
16:52going
16:53every time I turned around
16:54something was
16:55was said
16:56that we did
16:57I believe that Pam
17:00had started a war
17:02she always ran to
17:04to management
17:04with information
17:06because she thought
17:08that we were there
17:08to replace them
17:09things were bad
17:13at the factory
17:14between the rumors
17:15the tension
17:16the gossip
17:17we didn't think
17:20anything could get
17:20any worse
17:21until
17:21it did
17:22it was July 2011
17:32and
17:34we
17:35had to be in early
17:36that day
17:37by
17:42two o'clock
17:43I was
17:44asked to
17:45go
17:46into
17:46the office
17:48to see
17:49the plant manager
17:51I
17:56I just
17:56had
17:57this feeling
17:58so
17:59I kind of
18:00put on my
18:01resting
18:03bitch face
18:03and
18:05I just
18:06looked at them
18:07HR
18:15started
18:16her spiel
18:17which
18:18I
18:19didn't
18:19really
18:20care
18:20to hear
18:21her
18:21because I
18:22had no
18:23respect for her
18:24and
18:25she
18:26told me
18:27that I
18:27am no
18:28longer
18:28an employee
18:29of the
18:31cookie factory
18:32and I
18:36was stunned
18:36I was
18:39stunned
18:39and I
18:42go
18:42why
18:43she
18:45she
18:45goes
18:45facial
18:46harassment
18:46and
18:49I'm
18:49just
18:49looking
18:49at
18:49them
18:50like
18:50what's
18:52facial
18:53harassment
18:53and
18:55they're
18:55like
18:56you
18:57rolled
18:58your
18:58eyes
18:58I
19:00go
19:00I
19:00rolled
19:01my
19:01eyes
19:02then
19:03this
19:03whole
19:04plant
19:04should
19:04be
19:05fired
19:05because
19:07everybody
19:07rolls
19:08their
19:08eyes
19:08I
19:12believe
19:12Pam
19:12hated
19:13Heather
19:13enough
19:13to get
19:13her
19:13fired
19:14she
19:16thought
19:16that
19:16she
19:16was
19:16causing
19:17too
19:17much
19:17problems
19:18between
19:18our
19:18group
19:19and
19:19the
19:19boomers
19:19and
19:21Pam
19:21wanted
19:21Heather
19:22gone
19:22I
19:23think
19:24the
19:24main
19:25one
19:25was
19:25Pam
19:25but
19:27of
19:28course
19:28Pam
19:29is
19:30a
19:30sweet
19:30little
19:31boomer
19:32and
19:33nobody
19:34can
19:34be
19:34mad
19:34at
19:34her
19:35I
19:37told
19:38Jordan
19:38I
19:38go
19:38girl
19:39you
19:39better
19:39you
19:40better
19:40watch
19:40yourself
19:41we're
19:44all
19:44brought
19:44in
19:44one
19:45after
19:45another
19:45we
19:46didn't
19:46see
19:47Heather
19:47she
19:47was
19:47fired
19:48and
19:49then
19:49Desi
19:50and I
19:50were
19:50pulled
19:50in
19:51the
19:51office
19:51and
19:51told
19:51that
19:52you
19:52know
19:52whispering
19:53is
19:53bullying
19:54and
19:54that's
19:55not
19:55tolerated
19:56I
19:58thought
19:59it
19:59was
19:59bullshit
19:59I
20:08was
20:09in
20:09my
20:09kitchen
20:09and
20:10Jordan
20:10called
20:10me
20:11which
20:12I
20:12think
20:12it
20:12was
20:12around
20:1311
20:14o'clock
20:14and
20:17she
20:19said
20:19that
20:19she
20:20was
20:20fired
20:20Heather
20:22is
20:23fired
20:23Jordan
20:25is
20:25fired
20:25Kira
20:27is
20:28hanging
20:28out
20:29with
20:29the
20:29boomers
20:29and
20:30now
20:30all
20:30that's
20:31left
20:31in
20:31terms
20:32of
20:32alliance
20:32really
20:33is
20:33Donna
20:33and
20:34Desi
20:34as
20:39the
20:39last
20:39two
20:39standing
20:40Desi
20:41and
20:41Donna
20:41know
20:41they
20:42need
20:42to
20:42stick
20:42together
20:43but
20:45a
20:45handsome
20:45new
20:46hire
20:46is
20:46all
20:47it
20:47takes
20:47to
20:47pull
20:48them
20:48apart
20:48Josh
20:51was
20:51a
20:52good
20:52looking
20:52man
20:52all
20:54the
20:54girls
20:55were
20:55hot
20:56bothered
20:57by
20:57him
20:58Donna
21:00had
21:01taken
21:01a
21:01liking
21:02into
21:02him
21:02first
21:02once
21:05she
21:05sealed
21:06him
21:06it
21:06was
21:07you
21:07know
21:07he's
21:07mine
21:08you
21:08cannot
21:08talk
21:09to
21:09him
21:09like
21:10you
21:10cannot
21:10look
21:10at
21:10him
21:11so
21:23Donna
21:23and Josh
21:23had been
21:24seeing
21:24each
21:24other
21:24for
21:24a
21:25few
21:25months
21:25things
21:28didn't
21:28go
21:28right
21:29I
21:29believe
21:29Josh
21:30had
21:31ended
21:31things
21:32after
21:34they
21:34broke
21:34up
21:35there
21:35was
21:35a
21:35rumor
21:35that
21:36Desi
21:36had been
21:37sleeping
21:37with
21:37Josh
21:38he
21:40he
21:40he
21:40always
21:40liked
21:41Desi
21:41he
21:42took
21:42a
21:42liking
21:42in
21:42Desi
21:43I
21:43mean
21:44they
21:44did
21:44start
21:44seeing
21:45each
21:45other
21:45for
21:45a
21:45little
21:45bit
21:46it
21:47wasn't
21:47really
21:47like
21:47an
21:48announced
21:49relationship
21:49it
21:50was
21:51you know
21:51see
21:52where
21:52things
21:52go
21:52donna
21:54didn't
21:55really
21:55care
21:55for
21:55that
21:56and
21:57donna
21:57was
21:57not
21:58a
21:58person
21:59that
21:59you
22:00want
22:00to
22:00mess
22:00with
22:01donna
22:07got
22:07distant
22:07after
22:08that
22:08she
22:09ended
22:10up
22:10hanging
22:11out
22:11more
22:11with
22:12Pam and
22:12Kira
22:12than
22:13with
22:14Desi
22:14now
22:17the
22:17only
22:18one
22:18left
22:18in
22:18this
22:18once
22:19tight
22:19knit
22:19group
22:20is
22:20Desi
22:21everything
22:23is
22:23closing
22:23in
22:23on her
22:23at
22:24the
22:24cookie
22:24factory
22:24I
22:26think
22:26Desi
22:26felt
22:26very
22:27lonely
22:27without
22:27our
22:28little
22:28group
22:28it
22:30was
22:30getting
22:31too
22:31much
22:31she
22:33wanted
22:33to
22:33get
22:33out
22:34of
22:34there
22:34she
22:35wanted
22:35to
22:35go
22:36to
22:36culinary
22:37school
22:37to
22:37be
22:37a
22:37baker
22:37but
22:39she
22:39never
22:39gets
22:39a
22:40chance
22:40to
22:40do
22:40that
22:44on
22:59February
22:596
22:592016
23:00at
23:01about
23:019
23:0112
23:01a.m
23:02a
23:02woman
23:02called
23:03911
23:03she
23:05was
23:06laying
23:06on
23:06her
23:06bedroom
23:06floor
23:07and
23:08her
23:09lips
23:09were
23:09blue
23:10I
23:11was
23:12off
23:12duty
23:12at the
23:12time
23:12shopping
23:13with
23:13my
23:13family
23:13I
23:14gathered
23:14myself
23:15together
23:15I
23:16responded
23:16to
23:16the
23:17scene
23:17on
23:18Borton
23:18Avenue
23:18upon
23:23entering
23:23the
23:23residence
23:24I
23:24went
23:24to
23:25the
23:25first
23:26floor
23:26bedroom
23:26where
23:26the
23:26deceased
23:27was
23:27located
23:27what
23:29stood
23:29out
23:29to
23:30me
23:30was
23:31how
23:31brutal
23:31the
23:32attack
23:33was
23:33the
23:34victim
23:34was
23:34laying
23:34on
23:34her
23:35back
23:35she
23:35had
23:36marks
23:36all
23:37over
23:37her
23:37body
23:37she
23:38had
23:39incised
23:39wounds
23:40to
23:40her
23:41wrists
23:41her
23:42vaginal
23:43wall
23:43and
23:43she
23:44had
23:44bruising
23:44throughout
23:44her
23:45body
23:45the
23:48911
23:48caller
23:49identified
23:49the
23:49victim
23:50as
23:50Desiree
23:51Withey
23:51she
23:54was
23:5433
23:54years
23:55old
23:55she
24:01ultimately
24:01died
24:01from
24:01strangulation
24:02as far
24:04as we
24:04could tell
24:04the injuries
24:05to the
24:05pelvic
24:05region
24:06were
24:06sustained
24:07after
24:07she
24:08was
24:09dead
24:09although
24:12we
24:12recovered
24:13numerous
24:14cutting
24:14instruments
24:15from
24:15knives
24:16to
24:16scissors
24:17to
24:18box
24:18cutters
24:18we
24:19were
24:19never
24:19able
24:20to
24:20definitively
24:20say
24:21which
24:21one
24:21of
24:21those
24:22was
24:22used
24:22on
24:23the
24:23victim
24:23this
24:25was
24:25a
24:26deeply
24:26personal
24:26murder
24:27motivated
24:28by
24:28a
24:29severe
24:29hatred
24:29and
24:30we
24:30had
24:31to
24:31figure
24:31out
24:31who
24:31despises
24:32women
24:32enough
24:32to
24:32commit
24:32a
24:33crime
24:33like
24:33this
24:33one
24:47thing
24:47that
24:47we
24:47did
24:47notice
24:48at
24:48the
24:48scene
24:49was
24:49the
24:49way
24:50Desiree's
24:50fingernails
24:51were
24:51cut
24:51back
24:51somebody
24:52wouldn't
24:52normally
24:53do
24:53that
24:53to
24:53themselves
24:54when
24:55someone
24:56is
24:56strangled
24:56the
24:56natural
24:57reaction
24:57of a
24:57human
24:58being
24:58is
24:58to
24:58scratch
24:59and
24:59when
24:59you
24:59scratch
25:00you
25:00peel
25:00up
25:00skin
25:00cells
25:01from
25:01the
25:01person
25:01that
25:02strangling
25:02you
25:02it's
25:03likely
25:04that
25:04Desiree's
25:05fingernails
25:05were
25:06cut
25:06in
25:06an
25:06effort
25:06to
25:07conceal
25:07evidence
25:08or
25:08transfer
25:08of
25:08DNA
25:09at
25:11this
25:11point
25:11we
25:12figured
25:12it
25:12was
25:13either
25:13an
25:13ex-boyfriend
25:14ex-spouse
25:15of some
25:15sort
25:15someone
25:16that
25:16has
25:16a
25:17personal
25:17vendetta
25:17this
25:18was
25:18definitely
25:19set
25:20forward
25:20to
25:21send
25:22a
25:22message
25:22we
25:30found
25:30out
25:30that
25:31Desiree
25:31had
25:31two
25:31children
25:32ages
25:33two
25:33and
25:33six
25:34the
25:35six-year-old
25:36went to
25:36the
25:36child
25:37advocacy
25:37center
25:37to be
25:38interviewed
25:38she
25:39told us
25:40that
25:40she
25:41came
25:41downstairs
25:42and saw
25:43a woman
25:43in Desi's
25:44room
25:45in the
25:45middle
25:45of the
25:45night
25:46and she
25:46heard crying
25:47in that
25:47room
25:47this
25:49person
25:49has her
25:50back
25:50to the
25:50door
25:51so she
25:52doesn't
25:52see her
25:52face
25:52they gave
25:56her some
25:56crayons
25:56and she
25:58was able
25:58to
25:58basically
25:59draw
26:00a
26:00jacket
26:00that
26:01had
26:02almost
26:02like
26:03a
26:03pink
26:03color
26:03to
26:04it
26:04and
26:04a
26:04white
26:05color
26:05all
26:06indications
26:07are
26:07the
26:07person
26:08that
26:08was
26:08wearing
26:08that
26:09jacket
26:09is the
26:09person
26:10that
26:10killed
26:11Desiree
26:12with
26:12I was
26:31upstairs
26:31getting ready
26:32and then
26:33my phone's
26:34ringing
26:34and
26:39instantly
26:40it was
26:43it's a
26:43blur
26:43from
26:43there
26:44um
26:45I remember
26:46falling down
26:46my stairs
26:47um
26:49wailing
26:52out
26:52and then
26:54I called
26:54Heather
26:54she kept
26:59screaming
26:59she's gone
27:00she's gone
27:01I'm like
27:01no
27:02who
27:02what
27:03I go
27:04you're
27:05lying
27:05I go
27:06you are
27:07lying
27:07and she
27:10just kept
27:11saying
27:11she's
27:12gone
27:12she's
27:12gone
27:13she's
27:13gone
27:13it's
27:18just
27:18heartbreaking
27:18because she
27:20really was
27:20a beautiful
27:22person
27:22she was
27:24my sister
27:24we learned
27:35that
27:35Desiree
27:36worked
27:36at a
27:37baked
27:37good
27:37factory
27:38we
27:40interviewed
27:40several
27:40people
27:41that
27:41worked
27:41at the
27:42cookie
27:42factory
27:42I believe
27:44the cookie
27:44factory
27:45was a
27:45place
27:45that
27:46was
27:46becoming
27:46pretty
27:46hostile
27:47for
27:47Desi
27:48to be
27:48in
27:48I was
27:52taken
27:52into
27:52the
27:53investigator's
27:54car
27:54to give
27:54my
27:55statement
27:55I was
27:57questioned
27:57for a
27:58good
27:58two
27:58hours
27:58they
28:00asked me
28:01if I
28:01knew
28:01anybody
28:02that
28:02would
28:02want
28:02to
28:02hurt
28:02Desi
28:03I
28:06knew
28:07somebody
28:07from
28:07the
28:07factory
28:08murdered
28:08her
28:09they
28:16looked
28:16at
28:16all
28:16the
28:16drama
28:17the
28:17clicks
28:18the
28:18suspensions
28:19all
28:19the
28:20things
28:20that
28:20had
28:20happened
28:20in
28:20the
28:21years
28:21since
28:21Desi
28:21had
28:21worked
28:22there
28:22investigators
28:23spoke
28:24with
28:24Pam
28:24and
28:24the
28:25other
28:25boomers
28:26and
28:26they
28:26were
28:27shocked
28:27to
28:28hear
28:28this
28:28news
28:29obviously
28:29they
28:30had
28:30their
28:30own
28:30workplace
28:31drama
28:31but
28:31certainly
28:32not
28:32enough
28:33to
28:33kill
28:33for
28:33investigators
28:36learned
28:37that
28:37Donna
28:37felt
28:37betrayed
28:38by
28:38Desi's
28:39short
28:39relationship
28:39with
28:40her
28:40ex
28:40Josh
28:41Donna
28:43and
28:43Josh
28:44had
28:44split
28:44up
28:44they're
28:45now
28:45back
28:45together
28:45so
28:46they
28:47interviewed
28:47Donna
28:47Donna
28:49was honest
28:49with
28:50investigators
28:50she
28:50didn't
28:51like
28:51Desi
28:51but
28:52she
28:53wouldn't
28:53kill
28:53her
28:53she
28:56had an
28:56alibi
28:56for the
28:57evening
28:57of
28:57Desi's
28:57murder
28:58they
28:59didn't
28:59believe
29:00that
29:00she
29:00was
29:00involved
29:01so
29:01they
29:02had
29:02to
29:02let
29:02her
29:02go
29:02but
29:05they
29:05did
29:05find
29:05out
29:06that
29:06Desi
29:06and
29:07Josh
29:07had
29:07had
29:07this
29:08relationship
29:08and
29:09they
29:09really
29:09wanted
29:09to
29:09talk
29:09to
29:10Josh
29:10about
29:10it
29:10Josh
29:29may
29:29have
29:30a
29:30past
29:30with
29:30Desi
29:31but
29:32he
29:32thinks
29:32there's
29:33another
29:33man
29:33they
29:33should
29:34be
29:34talking
29:34to
29:34Kira
29:53who
29:53left
29:54the
29:54younger
29:54group
29:54after
29:55fighting
29:55with
29:55Donna
29:55is
29:56now
29:56back
29:57in
29:57Desi's
29:57life
29:58but
29:58for
29:59all
29:59the
29:59wrong
29:59reasons
30:00a
30:01gentleman
30:01by
30:02the
30:02name
30:02of
30:02Larkin
30:02Daniels
30:03formerly
30:03dated
30:04Kira
30:04for
30:05approximately
30:05eight
30:06years
30:06he
30:08started
30:09ending
30:09his
30:09relationship
30:10with
30:10Kira
30:11and
30:11Kira
30:12was not
30:12taking
30:12that
30:13very
30:13well
30:13something
30:15happened
30:16at the
30:16Christmas
30:16party
30:17that
30:17Kira
30:18was upset
30:19about
30:19all I
30:20know
30:20is
30:21is
30:21that
30:21Desi
30:22and
30:22Larkin
30:23ended
30:23up
30:23staying
30:23up
30:24all
30:24night
30:24talking
30:24and
30:25that's
30:25all
30:25they
30:25did
30:25once
30:34the
30:34next
30:35work
30:35day
30:35came
30:36Desi
30:36was
30:36on
30:37line
30:37two
30:37you
30:38know
30:39just
30:39packing
30:40her
30:40cookies
30:40away
30:40row
30:41packing
30:41away
30:41and
30:42all
30:42of a
30:43sudden
30:43Kira
30:43comes
30:44up
30:44to
30:44her
30:44and
30:45calls
30:45her
30:45a
30:46bitch
30:46and
30:47starts
30:47screaming
30:47at her
30:48telling
30:48her
30:49how
30:49dare
30:50you
30:50stay
30:51up
30:51all
30:51night
30:51talking
30:52to
30:52my
30:52boyfriend
30:53or
30:53my
30:54fiance
30:55at that
30:56time
30:56Kira
30:57and
30:57Larkin
30:57were
30:58broken
30:58up
30:58but
30:59they
30:59were
30:59still
31:00trying
31:00to
31:01see
31:01where
31:01things
31:02would
31:02go
31:02so
31:03Kira
31:04made
31:04a
31:04scene
31:04she
31:04made
31:05a
31:05big
31:05scene
31:05to
31:06where
31:06she
31:06had
31:06to
31:07be
31:07escorted
31:08out
31:08the
31:08building
31:08the
31:12next
31:12man
31:13they
31:13talked
31:13to
31:13is
31:14Kira's
31:14former
31:15fiance
31:25Larkin
31:43was
31:43calm
31:44he
31:44was
31:44collected
31:45he
31:45was
31:46sad
31:46over
31:46the
31:47news
31:47but
31:47he
31:48did
31:48not
31:48show
31:48nervousness
31:49in
31:49any
31:50way
31:50Larkin
31:52said
31:53that
31:53he
31:53believed
31:53that
31:54Kira
31:54was
31:54never
31:55someone
31:56that
31:56could
31:56be
31:56responsible
31:57of
31:57this
31:57heinous
31:57crime
31:57investigators
32:05turned their
32:05attention
32:06back to
32:06the
32:06cookie
32:06factory
32:07and
32:08to
32:08Desi's
32:08old
32:09friend
32:09Kira
32:10I was
32:11doing
32:12neighborhood
32:12interviews
32:13and a
32:13female
32:14came out
32:14of a
32:14house
32:15on
32:15Hope
32:15Street
32:16and I
32:18said
32:19hi
32:19do you
32:19mind
32:19if I
32:19speak
32:20to
32:20you
32:20what's
32:20your
32:20name
32:21she
32:21told
32:21me
32:22Kira
32:22Kassner
32:22humor
32:22knowing
32:25this
32:26I
32:26asked
32:27her
32:27if
32:27she
32:27would
32:27accompany
32:27me
32:28back
32:28to
32:28the
32:29PD
32:29so
32:30we
32:30could
32:30interview
32:30her
32:31a
32:31little
32:32bit
32:32further
32:49she
32:50she
32:50she
32:50I
32:51don't
32:51know
32:52what
32:52happened
32:52to
32:53her
32:54who
32:55do you
32:56think
32:56could
32:56have
32:56done
32:56it
32:56I
32:57don't
32:58know
32:58as far
32:59as I
32:59know
32:59she
32:59didn't
33:00have
33:00any
33:00enemies
33:01so
33:02that
33:02argument
33:03that you
33:03had
33:03with
33:04Desi
33:05what
33:06was it
33:06really
33:07Kira
33:19admitted
33:19to
33:20being
33:20mad
33:20at
33:21Desiree
33:21but
33:22denied
33:23ever
33:23being
33:23capable
33:23ever
33:24wanting
33:24to
33:25harm
33:25Desiree
33:26in
33:26any
33:26way
33:27she
33:28gave
33:28us
33:29a
33:29DNA
33:29sample
33:30she
33:30gave
33:31us
33:31her
33:31telephone
33:31she
33:32gave
33:32us
33:33the
33:33keys
33:33to
33:34her
33:34car
33:34she
33:35was
33:35more
33:36than
33:36reasonable
33:36during
33:36the
33:37interview
33:37she
33:50seemed
33:51like
33:51a
33:51normal
33:51person
33:52would
33:52be
33:52upset
33:52that
33:53a
33:53friend
33:53of
33:54theirs
33:54had
33:54died
33:54at
33:57the
33:57end
33:57of
33:58the
33:58interview
33:58we
33:58made
33:59the
33:59decision
33:59that
33:59we're
33:59not
33:59going
34:00to
34:00arrest
34:00her
34:00and
34:01we're
34:01going
34:01to
34:02let
34:02her
34:02go
34:02what
34:03happened
34:04the
34:04next
34:04morning
34:04change
34:05everything
34:05with
34:05the
34:05case
34:069-1-1
34:07center
34:07what's
34:08your
34:08emergency
34:08okay
34:09i know
34:10who
34:11killed
34:11the
34:11woman
34:11in
34:12parry
34:12on the
34:27morning
34:27of
34:28Sunday
34:29February
34:297-1-1
34:31and said
34:32she was
34:33in the
34:33presence
34:33of the
34:33person
34:34that
34:34had
34:34killed
34:35Desiree
34:35and
34:36that
34:37person
34:37had
34:37also
34:37tried
34:38killing
34:38themselves
34:38two
34:45two
34:45two
34:45two
34:45two
34:46two
34:46officers
34:46went
34:46to
34:47the
34:47scene
34:47from
34:47Rochester
34:48PD
34:48what
34:50they
34:50found
34:50was
34:51Kira
34:51Kastenhuber
34:52the call
34:54was placed
34:54by Kira's
34:55mother's
34:55friend
34:55Kira
34:58was lying
34:58on an air
34:59mattress
34:59on the
34:59floor
34:59she was
35:00disoriented
35:01she was
35:01breathing
35:01heavily
35:02the
35:03officers
35:03said
35:04that
35:04Kira
35:04was
35:04slurring
35:05her
35:05words
35:05but
35:06she
35:06did
35:06say
35:06to
35:07the
35:07responding
35:07officers
35:07a lot
35:08of
35:08things
35:08happened
35:09that
35:09shouldn't
35:10have
35:10happened
35:10and
35:11it's
35:11all
35:11my
35:11fault
35:12at
35:17this
35:17point
35:18ambulance
35:18arrives
35:18on
35:19scene
35:19transports
35:21Kira
35:21to
35:22Strong
35:22Memorial
35:22Medical
35:23Center
35:24in
35:24Rochester
35:24along
35:25with
35:25one
35:25of
35:25our
35:25investigators
35:26where
35:27Kira
35:27was
35:27treated
35:28and
35:28evaluated
35:29as
35:31Kira
35:31recovers
35:32investigators
35:33tear
35:34through
35:34her
35:34home
35:34while
35:36searching
35:36the
35:36laundry
35:36room
35:37we had
35:37found
35:37a
35:37pink
35:38and
35:38white
35:38jacket
35:38laying
35:39on top
35:39of
35:39a
35:39laundry
35:39basket
35:40that
35:42pink
35:42and
35:42white
35:42coat
35:42had
35:43been
35:43freshly
35:43washed
35:44and
35:44dried
35:44it's
35:46actually
35:46amazing
35:47how
35:47the
35:48witness
35:49did
35:49of
35:50identifying
35:50the
35:51jacket
35:51because
35:51it
35:51looks
35:52very
35:52similar
35:52it's
35:54a
35:54really
35:54good
35:55job
35:55for
35:55a
35:55child
35:56it's
35:56better
35:56job
35:56than
35:56I
35:57could
35:57do
35:57for
35:57drawing
35:57that
35:58jacket
35:58then
36:00investigators
36:01find
36:01something
36:02even
36:02more
36:03chilling
36:03within
36:05various
36:05garbage
36:06cans
36:06we had
36:06found
36:07a
36:07torn
36:07up
36:07note
36:08in
36:08numerous
36:08pieces
36:09and
36:11that
36:11note
36:12was a
36:12to-do
36:13list
36:13if you
36:13will
36:14the
36:17checklist
36:17reads
36:17wear
36:18masks
36:19so no
36:19scratches
36:20try to
36:23get her
36:23in
36:24shower
36:24have
36:27her
36:27write
36:27suicide
36:27note
36:28give
36:30her
36:30sleeping
36:31pills
36:31if that
36:32doesn't
36:32work
36:32then
36:32it's
36:33her
36:33wrist
36:33bring
36:35both
36:36blades
36:36and
36:40then
36:40at
36:41the
36:41very
36:41bottom
36:42she
36:43writes
36:43be
36:44happy
36:54we
36:54also
36:54found
36:55basically
36:55a
36:55series
36:56of
36:56suicide
36:56notes
36:57that
36:57appeared
36:58to be
36:58written
36:58by
36:59Desi
36:59and
36:59they
36:59were
36:59found
37:00in
37:00Kira
37:00Kastenhuber's
37:01trash
37:02actually
37:03Kira
37:04had
37:05written
37:05the
37:05suicide
37:06notes
37:06as if
37:07they
37:07were
37:07written
37:07by
37:08Desiree
37:08the
37:10sum and
37:10substance
37:11of
37:11the
37:12notes
37:12was that
37:13she was
37:14sorry
37:14for
37:15the
37:15person
37:16that
37:16she
37:16was
37:16and
37:17she
37:17is
37:18allegedly
37:18describing
37:18herself
37:19as
37:19a
37:19home
37:20wrecker
37:20and
37:21for
37:21that
37:21she
37:21was
37:21apologizing
37:22and
37:23she
37:23could
37:23not
37:23go
37:23on
37:24living
37:25anymore
37:25because
37:25of
37:26that
37:26despite
37:29all
37:30efforts
37:30to
37:30conceal
37:31this
37:31crime
37:31and
37:31dispose
37:32of
37:32any
37:32evidence
37:32during
37:33the
37:33medical
37:34exam
37:34of
37:34Desiree
37:35one
37:36of
37:36Desi's
37:36fingernails
37:37were
37:37found
37:37and
37:38on
37:38that
37:38fingernail
37:39was
37:39Kira
37:40Kastenhuber's
37:40DNA
37:40we
37:45had
37:45investigators
37:45at
37:46Strong
37:46Memorial
37:46Hospital
37:47because
37:47the
37:47moment
37:48she
37:48was
37:48to
37:48be
37:48released
37:49from
37:49their
37:49care
37:50we
37:50were
37:50arresting
37:50her
37:51for
37:51the
37:51murder
37:51of
37:51Desiree
37:52Withy
37:52I
38:00heard
38:00what
38:01happened
38:01um
38:03the
38:04details
38:05of
38:05the
38:05crime
38:05was
38:06sickening
38:06it was
38:07disgusting
38:08I
38:10hate
38:10her
38:10she's
38:12a
38:12monster
38:12I
38:15wish
38:16I
38:16never
38:16called
38:16her
38:16a
38:16friend
38:17Jordan
38:19called
38:20me
38:20and
38:22she's
38:23like
38:24she
38:26killed
38:26her
38:27excuse
38:27my
38:27language
38:27but
38:28she
38:29killed
38:30her
38:30I
38:31go
38:31who
38:32she
38:33goes
38:33Kira
38:34and
38:36I
38:36just
38:37couldn't
38:38speak
38:38at that
38:39moment
38:39I
38:41couldn't
38:42sleep
38:43because
38:43all I
38:44could
38:44think
38:44about
38:44was
38:46Desi
38:46she
38:52took
38:52a
38:52mother
38:53there's
38:54two
38:54little
38:55girls
38:55that are
38:55growing up
38:56right now
38:56without
38:56their
38:57mother
38:57with
39:04the
39:05evidence
39:05stacked
39:05against
39:06her
39:06Kira
39:07has
39:07no
39:08way
39:08out
39:08she
39:09pleads
39:09guilty
39:10to
39:10murdering
39:11her
39:11former
39:12friend
39:12the
39:13judge
39:14ultimately
39:14sentenced
39:14her
39:15to a
39:15minimum
39:15term
39:16of
39:1615
39:16years
39:16a
39:16maximum
39:17of
39:17her
39:17natural
39:17life
39:18the
39:19judge
39:19did
39:19make
39:19a
39:19statement
39:20to
39:20the
39:20effect
39:20that
39:21he
39:21hopes
39:21that
39:21the
39:21parole
39:21board
39:22does
39:22not
39:22release
39:22her
39:23the
39:33fact
39:34that
39:34a
39:34friend
39:35could
39:35do
39:36this
39:36to
39:36another
39:36friend
39:36is
39:37just
39:38incomprehensible
39:39I
39:42think
39:42Kira
39:42was very
39:43jealous
39:43of
39:43Desi
39:44because
39:45Desi
39:45was
39:45happy
39:46and
39:47Kira
39:47wasn't
39:48and
39:49Larkin
39:50Kira
39:51always
39:51thought
39:51that
39:51Desi
39:52was
39:52going
39:52to
39:52come
39:52and
39:53snatch
39:53him
39:54up
39:54I
39:56think
39:56she
39:56did
39:57this
39:57because
39:57nobody
39:58could
39:59have
39:59Larkin
39:59I
40:02was
40:02heartbroken
40:03because
40:04I was
40:05thinking
40:06back
40:07of how
40:08close
40:09we
40:09were
40:10the
40:11pictures
40:11the
40:12camping
40:13and
40:14the
40:15barbecues
40:16and
40:16the
40:17vacations
40:18we
40:19did
40:19everything
40:20together
40:20Kira
40:26took
40:27my
40:27best
40:28friend
40:28she
40:32took
40:33my
40:33ride
40:33or
40:33die
40:33working
40:37at the
40:37cookie
40:38factory
40:38just
40:39seeing
40:39her
40:40it
40:41just
40:41made
40:42a
40:42bad
40:42day
40:43just
40:43turn
40:43into
40:43a
40:43good
40:43day
40:44she
40:48made
40:48a
40:49hard
40:50life
40:50easy
40:50and
40:51a
40:51little
40:51bit
40:52sweeter
40:52a
40:57piece
40:57of
40:57my
40:58heart
40:58died
40:59when
40:59Desi
40:59died
41:00on
41:10the
41:10next
41:11mean
41:11girl
41:11murders
41:12pageantry
41:13is
41:13amazing
41:14pageantry
41:14is
41:15cool
41:15everyone
41:16wants
41:16to be
41:16the
41:16queen
41:17clearly
41:19she
41:19had
41:20something
41:20special
41:20there
41:21was
41:21jealousy
41:22they
41:22had
41:23to
41:23go
41:23after
41:23her
41:24only
41:25a
41:25Hollywood
41:25movie
41:26would
41:26have
41:26these
41:26kinds
41:27of
41:27details
41:27it's
41:28kind
41:28of
41:28crazy
41:28you
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