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00:00There is a killer on the streets of London.
00:03This is the worst I had ever seen her.
00:06I did not think she was going to stop.
00:08This was planned.
00:09This was calculated.
00:10I need a police car in Madrid.
00:16My friend has been missing for 15 days.
00:23We had no power of arrest, no jurisdiction.
00:27The crime scene must tell a completely different story to what you've been told.
00:32How can the evidence tell us what's happened to catch the killer at that crime scene?
00:57I come into work in the morning, I get a phone call from the on-call senior detective
01:15who has been overseeing quite an unusual case overnight.
01:23A woman living in Kent has been reported missing.
01:2637-year-old Karla Godoy has vanished after going on holiday in Peru.
01:31Concerns were raised when Karla's family and a friend hadn't heard from her.
01:37It was highly unusual for Karla not to speak to her family.
01:41She was born in Honduras and spent a lot of her childhood there.
01:48And then as an adult moved to Spain, she had a young daughter and she was separated from
01:56her husband when she came to the UK to work in December of 2020.
02:02Karla works as a cleaner at Epsfleet Lorry Park.
02:05She fitted in really well, always speaking to people, very, very friendly and she worked
02:10extremely hard.
02:12I think the aim was that she was going to work hard, save money and send it back to
02:19Spain for the benefit of her daughter.
02:23Her daughter lives in Valencia with her dad.
02:26She would religiously call her daughter every day and speak to her and there was just no
02:32contact from her at all.
02:35We contacted Interpol and asked for a missing person inquiry being started in Peru.
02:41A high-risk missing person comes with a lot of additional resources that are allocated
02:46to that.
02:47We need to find that person quickly.
02:50Investigators track Karla's movements.
02:52Karla flew to Valencia on the 12th of September, meeting her family for several days before
03:00travelling to Peru.
03:02So these were flights that were booked, pre-paid for and the plan was for Karla to return to
03:08Valencia on the 23rd of September.
03:11Her family last heard from her on the morning of the 23rd from Peru.
03:23The voice notes was the last known contact from Karla.
03:32She sounded really down.
03:34People who knew her described what a happy, jolly person she was.
03:38You can tell in the voice that she doesn't sound her usual happy self.
03:44Police investigating this really started to get concerned about Karla's whereabouts and
03:48what may have happened to her.
03:51Investigators learn Karla wasn't travelling alone.
03:55She was with her boyfriend, Jorge Garay.
03:58No one can get hold of him either.
04:01They were introduced by a friend of Karla's.
04:06Similar to Karla, moved to Spain first and then moved to the UK to work for the same
04:11cleaning company.
04:12After nearly two years of dating, Karla was travelling to Peru to meet Jorge's family
04:16for the first time.
04:18Garay was born in Peru.
04:21They went to Machu Picchu together and then there were photographs that Karla was sending
04:27back to her family.
04:31A few days after these photos were taken, the couple disappears.
04:38Police find they share a flat in Dartford.
04:41They took out a joint tenancy on a flat together.
04:45I think one of Karla's friends thought that was a bit too soon, but they did and they
04:52lived together.
04:54Sometimes police forces will go to a missing person's house to take samples, to look for
05:00evidence.
05:01You would potentially look for any intelligence as to where they might have gone to.
05:07Any paperwork with any addresses, names, any contact numbers, or does it look like they're
05:13not a missing person and they're actually coming back later because there's food in
05:16the fridge?
05:17The flat was particularly sparse, there were hardly any items of clothing there or furniture
05:23or personal belongings, save for a couple of toothbrushes and a shower scrunchie which
05:27we seized for DNA purposes.
05:31We also took some fingerprints of surfaces as well, again for identification purposes.
05:36It was clear to me that they were no longer residing there.
05:44Toothbrushes are a good source of DNA because not many people share toothbrushes, so the
05:48majority of the DNA on the head area of this would be from the person who normally brushes
05:53their teeth with it.
05:55And this means that we can effectively get their DNA profile on record so that if they
06:00do turn up somewhere, we can identify them from that DNA.
06:05With no sign of the couple at home, their worried families desperately try to get hold
06:10of them.
06:11They really wanted to find out what had gone on here.
06:16The Ray's family themselves, his mum even asking him what on earth has happened.
06:24Interpol examines the couple's passport data.
06:28Peruvian authorities confirm Carla has not left the country.
06:34There was just no reason why Carla would stay in Peru.
06:39The company she worked for had an app.
06:42You could log on and see what your duties were for a particular day.
06:46She last logged on at 8.30 Peru time on the 23rd of September.
06:53But Jorge Garay has travelled from Peru to Chile and Brazil before arriving at Heathrow
06:59airport alone.
07:01When Jorge Garay returned to the UK on the 4th of October, it was clear something wasn't
07:07right.
07:08So she's been missing for 15 days.
07:21Yes.
07:22Have you reported anything before?
07:25No.
07:26She went on holiday to Peru with her boyfriend.
07:31His family lives in Peru.
07:33Now her family and the police in Peru are looking for him.
07:38In Kent, concerns are growing for the welfare of 37-year-old Carla Godoy.
07:44Police urgently need to speak to her boyfriend, Jorge Garay, after he returned from their
07:48holiday without her.
07:50He's not been seen again since arriving at Heathrow.
07:56It was really difficult for the intelligence unit to try and work out where he might be.
08:02We didn't know much about his movements.
08:04Persons that worked with Garay, they described him as a bit of a loner.
08:11He was quite difficult.
08:12He didn't sort of go out of his way to be particularly friendly to people.
08:17We conducted inquiries with their workplace and colleagues there.
08:21We were able to give a bit of background in regards to the type of kind, loving person
08:27Carla was and the relationship between her and Garay.
08:31They described him as very controlling of Carla.
08:37He used to get very cross and difficult when she was talking to other men.
08:44Carla naturally very effusive, bubbly, happy to speak to people, smiling all the time.
08:50He did not like that.
08:52As fears for Carla's safety increase, Peruvian media begins reporting on the couple's disappearance.
08:58I think in the end, with all the pressure put on Garay, I think he finally cracked.
09:09Twenty days after Carla vanished, her brother reaches Garay on the phone.
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11:25Of course, her daughter, who loved her very much.
11:29Although Carla and her husband were split up, it was clear when we met that he still cared a great deal for her.
11:37She was just a lovely, friendly, young lady, doing charity work for a local church.
11:43She worked hard, she worked hard for her family to try and make a better life for them.
11:55She worked hard, she was a good person, a very nice person.
12:01Surrender, Jorge, you have no other option, Jorge.
12:25It appears Carla was buried over a week ago. The ligature around her neck is determined to be a bungee cord.
12:46The bungee cord was tied tightly around the neck, which I would suggest means that it's been pulled.
12:52Ideally, it's good to measure how long it is and potentially swab it for DNA.
12:59Bungee cords are elastic, so the length would increase.
13:02Probably the best thing to do would be to measure the maximum length that the cord could be.
13:07So I'm going to look at the ends of the bungee cord for any DNA from a possible perpetrator.
13:15This hook would probably be held by the offender.
13:19So I'm going to swab around the hook to see if I can get any DNA on there.
13:23And then also I'm going to swab the actual fabric of the bungee cord, because that may well have been held by the offender too.
13:33It's really what we call speculative swabbing.
13:36You just have to make an educated guess as to where somebody might grab something.
13:41As forensics look to piece together how Carla died, police ramp up the search for Gray.
13:47There would be a lot of pressure on the police.
13:49Can we find out where their phone was last used?
13:52Can we get the cell data analysis done on their phone to find out who they've contacted?
13:58Phone data narrows his location to southeast London.
14:01But as the net tightens, the team hits a major setback.
14:06As Gray will be prosecuted in Peru, they need an extradition arrest warrant to bring him in.
14:12They have to submit a full extradition case, which I was told would take several weeks.
14:16That presented us with a real dilemma.
14:19We knew someone had murdered someone in another country.
14:22And ultimately it appeared we had no power of arrest, no jurisdiction.
14:29You have in the back of your mind, there is a killer on the streets of London.
14:33What happens if?
14:36I get a phone call from a DCI in the Met.
14:39He says to me, Lee, we found your missing person.
14:43We need your ID, please.
14:45What's your name?
14:47What's your name?
14:49Please, yeah?
14:51What is your name?
14:55What's your name?
14:57George.
14:59Gray was located an hour and a half away from the crime scene.
15:02George.
15:03Gray was located at an address in Tottenham.
15:10If you stand up, please.
15:18Give him the words.
15:20He said we've arrested him for coercive patrolling behaviour.
15:24So you're under arrest.
15:26You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned,
15:31What had happened is when Carla's friend reported her missing,
15:36she happened to mention in the call that Carla's family thought that Gray was controlling.
15:43Coercive control is something that we've really only recently started talking about.
15:49It is a pattern of behaviour designed to trap someone in a relationship.
15:55One of the statements was quite striking
15:58because it referred to instances in the sort of lunchroom where they worked
16:05and Carla would be having a conversation.
16:08Gary clearly did not like this and he'd go and sit in the corner
16:13and just cover his head with his arms and his hands
16:17and the witness said, well, he just behaved like a complete baby.
16:22Carla's family and friends tell police that after initially bonding over their similar backgrounds,
16:27the couple were soon spending all their time together.
16:30He would expect Carla to have all of her breaks with him.
16:35He even went so far as to speak to the boss to ensure that they worked in the same locations
16:40so that he could keep an eye on her.
16:43As soon as I hear a relationship has started really quickly,
16:47I get that sinking feeling in my stomach
16:49because that is very, very often the way controlling relationships start.
16:55Gray is taken to Lewisham Police Station on suspicion of domestic abuse.
16:59But although he's confessed, police still don't have authority from Peru
17:03to arrest him for Carla's murder
17:05or enough evidence to keep him in custody for coercive control.
17:09This was extremely concerning for me.
17:11We would need to release him at the end of the day.
17:13There would be nothing to detain him.
17:16We have someone that is free to roam the UK,
17:20who we believe has murdered his partner,
17:23but also the risk of letting Carla and her family down
17:28by not being able to arrest, prosecute and hold Gray to account
17:33for the awful crime we believe he has committed.
17:37There's a real risk that the extradition process could take years.
17:41I'm still in this massive dilemma as to what to do.
17:44But what that arrest did do was buy me some time.
17:49Police urgently seek the advice of extradition experts
17:52and the Crown Prosecution Service.
17:55We discussed a little-known piece of legislation which was relatively new,
17:59which is under Section 72 of the Domestic Abuse Act of 2021.
18:03Under Section 72, prosecutors can charge a UK resident
18:07for a violent crime against a partner committed overseas.
18:11Then we deal with those charges here,
18:14as opposed to them being dealt with in the country
18:17where the offence was committed.
18:21It was new to me. It was certainly the first time I'd come across it.
18:25We were dealing with the unknown.
18:28But Gray's release is imminent.
18:30We had the power to do it, and so we did it because we had to.
18:36We've got a self-confessed killer.
18:38We couldn't leave this man on the streets of London.
18:44Gray is transported from Lewisham to Kent to be questioned.
18:49My first question is,
18:51why is Carla buried in your grandmother's plot of land in Lima, Peru?
18:56Gray was interviewed with a solicitor and with an interpreter,
19:00and he provided a prepared statement.
19:03He and Carla were up about three or four o'clock in the morning
19:07and they were arguing.
19:09We'd been up late talking and drinking alcohol.
19:16We'd recently been arguing about her ex-partner.
19:18The ex-partner has custody of Carla's 10-year-old daughter.
19:21This was causing Carla a lot of stress.
19:23She was suffering mentally because of this.
19:25She was mad and angry about it this evening.
19:27I could feel how stressed she was.
19:29In interview, he was quite calm, matter of fact.
19:33She had not told her ex-partner
19:35that she was in a relationship with me.
19:37She was concerned and believed that he would never let her have access
19:40or custody of her daughter.
19:42She was very upset and I couldn't understand
19:44why she didn't just tell him we were together and happy.
19:46I told her to ignore him, not to let him spoil our holiday.
19:49I told her that she was shit,
19:50and at that point she slapped me hard in the face
19:52and was calling me the most hurtful names,
19:54that I was a piece of shit
19:55and I had no right telling her what to do,
19:57that I'm no one.
19:58I slapped her back, but this made things much worse.
20:01She picked up a knife next to a fruit bowl on the table.
20:04She was lashing out at me,
20:05trying to slash me with this knife in an overhand motion.
20:10I put up my hands to defend myself.
20:12He described the knife as being 10 to 12 centimetres long
20:16and he even showed on his left upper arm a cut as well.
20:22I shouted, shut up, shut up.
20:24I know that the knife had fallen from her hand.
20:26I was afraid she may grab it again.
20:28All of the time she was kicking and shouting horrible things at me.
20:31I can't remember what happened at this moment, not exactly.
20:33I thought she was going to kill me.
20:36Looking at the case on face value,
20:39a girl's been found buried,
20:41the offender's admitted to it,
20:42looks a really simple case, in reality it's not.
20:45He's looking to put forward a case of self-defence.
20:49I was really scared, I feared the worst.
20:52I did not think she was going to stop.
20:54But it just didn't sit right, it didn't sit right.
20:57All the information we were getting was that
20:59she wouldn't be someone that would use violence against someone.
21:02She didn't even swear.
21:04It was extremely unlikely that she would have picked up a knife
21:07and attacked Gray with it.
21:09I do not know what happened, something crazy came over me.
21:13We need to find further evidence to prove that he's lying.
21:27I grabbed him with some kind of elastic string.
21:29Afterwards I panicked.
21:31I did not know what to do.
21:33I covered her in a sheet and put her in a garden.
21:36I know I was angry that she was trying to kill me.
21:39As an SIO, when you're investigating any murder,
21:42one of the most common defences that's going to be raised is self-defence.
21:48But we have to still prove it, forensically,
21:51and try and prove or disprove any aspect of his story.
21:56He said that he had taken Carla
22:01in cardboard boxes to the deposition site.
22:05His explanation was that he'd just waved somebody down in the streets
22:10who was driving a flatbed truck,
22:13who then helped him to transport the body of Carla.
22:18Now, as farcical as that sounded,
22:22that he flagged down a passing lorry with Carla in cardboard boxes,
22:26which just happened to take him to the deposition site,
22:29that's not enough to prove murder.
22:31We still have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
22:35He then answered no comment to all further questions.
22:39It's always challenging because the person that can give you
22:43the most evidence other than the suspect is sadly no longer.
22:49From that moment, we had to start to build that case against him,
22:54build on what he'd said in the interviews.
22:58That was extremely daunting.
23:00How on earth are we going to obtain all this evidence from Peru?
23:05How we would manage a crime scene in the UK would be completely different
23:09to how they would manage a crime scene in Peru.
23:12We started making lists of things that we needed.
23:17We need to know what's been examined, how it's been examined,
23:20and what's actually been recovered from that scene.
23:24A post-mortem examination was conducted in Peru
23:27and they found that the cause of death was strangulation.
23:30But we didn't have the full report, I was told,
23:32and photos hadn't been taken.
23:34In investigation terms, that creates a whole new level of problems
23:39because Carla's body is effectively the most important bit of evidence that you have.
23:44It was recommended that we needed to transport Carla to the UK
23:49for a post-mortem by a certified Home Office pathologist.
23:54The National Crime Agency advised that I contact Dr Richard Lloyd
23:59from the University of Cambridge.
24:02I became involved in this case because of my experience
24:06in repatriating bodies around the world.
24:09So I was asked to advise on the best way to bring Carla back to the United Kingdom
24:16for a post-mortem examination.
24:19It's a very difficult situation when the body is 6,000 miles away.
24:24Commercial airlines insist on bodies being embalmed for reasons of hygiene.
24:29Embalming slows down decomposition.
24:33The problem with that is there is the risk that the embalming process
24:37can destroy very important forensic evidence
24:41and it can create new false evidence
24:45that might be misinterpreted by a forensic pathologist as an injury
24:51but which in fact is what we would call an embalming artefact.
24:56The team won't know if evidence has been lost
24:59until Carla's remains arrive back in the UK.
25:03In custody, Garay sticks to his statement.
25:06She slapped me hard in the face and was calling me the most hurtful names.
25:10I was a piece of shit and I had no right telling her what to do.
25:13That I'm no one.
25:14I couldn't understand why she didn't just tell him we were together and happy.
25:18He maintains his innocence because at the bottom of all of this
25:22what he's actually feeling is that he's suffered an injustice.
25:26He feels he has been wronged by the victim.
25:33When a man kills his partner, very often it's about power, control
25:38and sometimes men feeling humiliated or disempowered.
25:45Before they went to Peru, they flew to Valencia
25:49so that Carla could see her daughter and they stayed at an hotel
25:54and I think everybody describes it as being a very tense situation.
26:00The statements that we got from Carla's family revealed that
26:03Garay was being particularly controlling and aggressive to Carla
26:07whilst they were visiting the family.
26:10Garay was not only jealous of any contact that Carla had with any other men
26:16particularly her husband, but even of speaking to her daughter.
26:21He expected her to be with him every possible opportunity.
26:27Carla's aunt tells police that just before leaving for Peru
26:30Garay shouted at Carla about speaking to her ex on the phone about their daughter.
26:35Carla told her aunt he was a jealous man.
26:39I was absolutely convinced that this was not a case of self-defence.
26:43This was a vicious and brutal attack on a vulnerable female.
26:50But the team still needs to forensically prove Garay is lying about Carla attacking him.
26:57Despite the fact that he's confessed,
26:59actually he might be trying to kind of lead the police away from what's actually happened.
27:05If this kind of crime was to happen in England,
27:07we would immediately be thinking of several different hypotheses
27:11as to what might have happened at that scene.
27:13What does the science tell us?
27:16This clearly is a deposition site rather than an attack site.
27:21Dead bodies are incredibly difficult to move
27:24therefore the attack site I would suggest would probably be quite close by.
27:29It becomes really important to try and identify where this attack site is.
27:33That becomes the priority now.
27:35Where was she killed and what other evidence might be at that crime scene?
27:41As police examine Garay's links to the area,
27:45seven weeks after being recovered, Carla's remains arrive in Kent.
27:50Not only do you have to think about the forensic side,
27:53you've also got to think about the family.
27:55This is someone's loved one and has to be treated with respect.
28:00But for the family and the friends who are left behind,
28:04it's very important for them that they know the truth.
28:09On the day of the post-mortem, I thought I couldn't attend because I had COVID.
28:13But I sent my deputy SIO and not long into the post-mortem,
28:17I received a phone call from him where he said,
28:19Garth, you're not going to be happy.
28:21You're not going to be happy.
28:24Carla's neck structure was missing, which was key to the investigation.
28:29It was very obvious that a very comprehensive post-mortem had been carried out in Peru,
28:35which had involved the removal of Carla's trachea, her windpipe.
28:41That's very standard post-mortem practice.
28:44Because this was a strangulation case,
28:46it's really important to preserve the neck area as much as possible
28:49for a pathologist in the UK to properly examine that area.
28:54They would like to see exactly how much pressure had been put on that person's neck
28:59and how badly the larynx was damaged.
29:03The pathologist also finds that due to being buried for several days,
29:07Carla's remains are badly decomposed.
29:10Extremely disappointing and frustrating.
29:13All sorts of questions going through my mind.
29:16How am I going to get justice for Carla's family and Carla?
29:22We had discussions about how we were going to build the case
29:25because we had really quite a thin file.
29:29Lee said, I think we need to go to Peru.
29:32Without actually being out there, you've got no control of what's happening.
29:36The SIO and the crime scene manager always go to the murder scenes.
29:41Peru was a country I'd never been to before.
29:44I don't think any of the team had been to before either.
29:47It was arid, dry, hot.
29:49It was the hottest month of the year.
29:51It was about 30 degrees.
29:53It was a particularly hairy time in Peru.
29:57I was made aware of riots, violent protests,
30:02police stations being firebombed,
30:04historic buildings in Lima being burned to the ground.
30:09It was certainly no holiday, put it that way.
30:13Led by D.I. Neils, a small team of investigators from Kent
30:17head to the deposition site on the city outskirts.
30:21Months on from the discovery of Carla's body, it's eerily quiet.
30:26It was probably the most desolate place I've ever been to.
30:33That looks like a hugely challenging task.
30:36That looks like a hugely challenging scene.
30:39Examining a scene two or three months later,
30:42after it's already been examined by somebody else,
30:45is quite a difficult thing to do.
30:47If there's any trace evidence at that scene,
30:49any footprints, any tyre marks, it's just not going to be there.
30:52We took 360-degree photographs of the scene to create a virtual tour.
30:57It's really important for me, for the jury,
31:00to have a visual representation of what that crime scene looks like.
31:05Finding few forensic opportunities at the scene,
31:08they head to the suspected attack site.
31:11The team have identified a house owned by Garay's family,
31:15just over three miles away.
31:18His defence said that Garay had taken Carla to the deposition site
31:24by flagging down a passing lorry at his home address.
31:29So it was at that point that we believed
31:32that the murder did in fact happen there.
31:36Using Carla's last known contact with her family and cell site data,
31:40digital experts confirm she was in that area on the day she went missing.
31:46The team cordons off the house.
31:49Ah, seeing as I took photographs of all rooms.
31:54When you have a statement from a suspect,
31:56it's really important to then look at the crime scene
31:58to see if that fits with what he said.
32:01She picked up a knife next to a fruit bowl on the table.
32:04She was lashing out at the suspect.
32:06She was saying,
32:08He said that she held a knife and it was dropped to the floor.
32:11So where is that knife in that crime scene?
32:14We thought, well, if the scene's been left relatively undisturbed,
32:18we would like to photograph them
32:20and actually we would have the knife presented in a box
32:24so that the jury, if necessary, can look at it.
32:27So we've got a photograph of the knife.
32:29We've got a photograph of the knife.
32:31We've got a photograph of the knife.
32:33We've got a photograph of the knife.
32:35So that the jury, if necessary, can look at it.
32:37We found five knives.
32:40We had no idea whether any of them could have been used by Carla,
32:44but we seized them in any case.
32:52It doesn't appear to have been any blood on it,
32:54but if you think that she's used it to attack him,
32:58her DNA, if there is any, is going to be on the handle of this knife.
33:03So what I'm going to do is I'm going to get a swab
33:05and I'm going to swab up the handle area.
33:09Not a very good surface for fingerprints
33:11because if you imagine when you're holding a knife,
33:13you're actually going to have it in the palm of your hand
33:16and you won't have much fingerprint-rich detail on it.
33:19Quite often you will find DNA traces and blood traces
33:23around the hilt of the knife, so where the handle meets the blade.
33:28Garay claims to have little memory of what happened
33:31after Carla came at him with the knife.
33:34I do not know what happened. Something crazy came over me.
33:37I thought that she was going to kill me.
33:39I did not think she was going to stop. Afterwards I panicked.
33:42What was really important for me was to show that Garay
33:46didn't in fact panic after he killed Carla.
33:50I can't remember what happened at this moment, not exactly.
33:53What I wanted to do was show that I knew exactly what he was doing
33:56in order to conceal Carla.
33:58D.I. Neils and his team retraced Garay's movements
34:01from the house to the deposition site.
34:04We used a GoPro to stick on the front of one of the cars.
34:13The journey was recorded as 16 minutes long.
34:18It started to become very apparent
34:20that this wasn't a case of panicking.
34:22This was planned and this was calculated.
34:25He needs to control the narrative because that's the only way
34:28that he's going to get away with it.
34:30But despite the mounting circumstantial evidence,
34:33the limited post-mortem and lack of photos of Carla's injuries
34:37puts the entire case at risk.
34:39From a crime scene's perspective,
34:41it's all about preservation of evidence.
34:44If the evidence hasn't been preserved,
34:48you're not going to get the results
34:50and you're not going to catch that killer at that crime scene.
34:53People are convicted on the basis of guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.
34:59Determined to leave no stone unturned,
35:02the team head to the mortuary to speak to the pathologist
35:05who performed the original autopsy.
35:08I said, look, the first question may answer a lot of my other questions.
35:11Were there any photographs taken of the post-mortem examination?
35:15And she started to explain that on this day
35:17there wasn't a photographer available.
35:20So I started to think to myself, well, at least I've asked the question.
35:23I've now confirmed there are no photographs.
35:25So she says, so I took the photographs
35:27and they're on this USB stick if you want to see them.
35:31And there's over 100 photographs of the post-mortem.
35:36.
35:44Police investigating the murder of Carla Godoy have made a major breakthrough.
35:49Photos taken during the original post-mortem show extensive bruising patterns.
35:56It was very evident that she'd been throttled.
36:00There were very clear abrasion marks on her neck
36:04that had been caused by prolonged compression.
36:08What those photos showed,
36:11which wasn't overly evident from the material we had so far,
36:15was other bruising on Carla.
36:17Forensic experts used the photos to create 3D images of Carla's injuries.
36:22Carla had bruising down her left flank, some 50 centimetres long,
36:27but also on her upper back, just below each shoulder.
36:32And I thought to myself, what on earth can that be?
36:35Is it some sort of assault? Is it a kick? Is it a punch?
36:38Bruising only really occurs in living people.
36:41Once the blood stops circulating within the body, a body doesn't bruise.
36:46So any bruising that happens on somebody is always pre-death, not post-death.
36:51And so evidence of bruising is definitive evidence of the fact
36:56that that injury came about either before death or at the time of death.
37:02And so in Carla's case, the evidence of bruising on her back
37:07was definitive evidence of the fact that around the time of death,
37:12some very strong pressure had been applied in very precise areas.
37:18Those marks became the focus of the investigation.
37:23Their assessment was that the bruising had been caused
37:27because Carla had been face down on the ground with Garay on her back.
37:33Bruising down the left side was her ribs against the floor,
37:38and the bruising in her shoulders was where Garay had his elbows in her shoulders.
37:45Using them as a fulcrum, I wished to exert as much pressure as he possibly could
37:50on the ligature in order to kill Carla.
37:53It only takes seconds for someone to lose consciousness after they've been strangled.
37:59Research has said it would take approximately one minute or longer to actually kill somebody.
38:04So if you're acting in self-defence and you're going to strangle somebody,
38:07surely when they've lost consciousness you'd stop strangling them, and therefore they wouldn't die.
38:12Why would I need to continue to apply pressure
38:16if the person who is attacking me is already completely unconscious
38:20and is presenting no threat whatsoever to me?
38:24The post-mortem photos also reveal another disturbing piece of evidence about Carla's neck injuries.
38:31It's always very important to measure the length of the wound and to measure the width of the wound
38:36in order to be able to match that up with the suspected murder weapon.
38:42The wound is found to be 18mm wide, double the diameter of the bungee cord used to kill Carla.
38:49That means the bungee cord was wrapped around her neck twice.
38:55It's not like a crime of passion.
38:57This is a ligature that's been wrapped twice around someone's neck.
39:00Someone definitely wanted to kill her.
39:04If you look at strangling somebody, you have to touch the person that you're killing.
39:10You might actually look into their eyes, you might see the life going out of them.
39:15You will feel directly responsible for their death in a very personal way.
39:30Leading up to the trial, you're always nervous because you never truly know what the jury are going to return.
39:36I believe we had a really strong case.
39:38During the investigation, we had done absolutely everything we possibly could
39:43to try and achieve justice for Carla and her family.
39:47As well as the post-mortem photos, forensic scientists have tested the knives taken from Garay's home in Peru.
39:54When their knives were examined, they didn't have any of Carla's DNA on them.
39:58It was only animal DNA, which tends to suggest it's been used to prepare food.
40:03The fact that there's none of Carla's DNA on the handle of the knife doesn't back up his story.
40:08The only weapon they found is the bungee cord wrapped twice around Carla's neck.
40:14We got authority to seize that bungee cord and bring that back to the UK
40:18because for me it was important to show the jury and I think it really hit home with them
40:23that this was the murder weapon used to kill Carla.
40:28The prosecution sets out what they believe triggered Garay to kill Carla so brutally that night.
40:35They'd had a meal and there was dispute between them.
40:39He said about the ex-husband phoning her and making her mad.
40:46But I think it must have been about the fact that she was about to depart,
40:51to go back to Spain without him to see her daughter.
40:57Carla was covered in her coat,
40:59which led me to believe that she may well have been leaving at the time that she was murdered.
41:07This is what we call the trigger event and more often than not this is linked to separation,
41:12threat of a separation or imagined separation.
41:15And their rage becomes unmanageable for them.
41:23The jury retires.
41:25You just never know with this type of investigation whether you're going to get that conviction.
41:32After seven hours of deliberation the jury came back.
41:37They gave a verdict of guilty.
41:43It was of great relief to me and the team.
41:47Forensically we're able to prove exactly what's happened.
41:50Pathology is a great tool.
41:53This is a once in a career case without a doubt.
41:57It's certainly the first time that I'd used the Domestic Abuse Act in any prosecution.
42:02We believe it was one of the first occasions when it was used by the CPS nationally.
42:09This case demonstrates that there are no boundaries.
42:13I think that must come as a warning really.
42:16You can run away but we can get you back.
42:20Or as in Garrett's case maybe he thought that if he got back to the UK he might be safe.
42:26And maybe he was actually surprised that we were able to prosecute him in the UK for killing Carla in Peru.
42:36Garrett is sentenced to a minimum term of 17 years.
42:43I can't think that he showed any remorse at all really.
42:46A lot of feeling sorry for himself.
42:49I think we all need to educate ourselves about domestic abuse and coercive control.
42:54The information is out there.
42:56That's the best way to stop these things from happening in the future.
43:00Knowledge is power.
43:03Two months on from her death, Carla's family lay her to rest.
43:08We arranged for Carla to be flown back to Honduras so that she could be put to rest as per her family's wishes.
43:15It's incredibly sad and thought provoking I think to deal with in terms of the family.
43:22And often there are children that are left behind.
43:26The family have lost a loved one.
43:28They've lost a mother, a sister, a daughter.
43:31Carla's friends and family described her as such a lovely person.
43:35We're just so pleased that we could provide her with justice.
43:44We're just so pleased that we could provide her with justice.
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