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00:00he made me feel special like I was different than you know just a kid
00:06and he cared about us and he showered us with affection
00:10he was a good grandpa I was really close with him growing up and I've always wondered
00:17about what he really does that we don't know about 26 year old Dustin Moreland of Denison
00:23was shot to death by Wesley Buster Clark in Harrison County last May the judge sentenced
00:29Clark to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 30 years
00:32I would have never thought about that a day in my life that he would have done that to somebody
00:44kind of shocking to hear that my papa killed somebody and just left him like that
00:50and he just threw everything away through his grandkids lives away through his life away
00:57I'm really the only grandkid who talks to him anymore I'm out of eight of us you know
01:01I want to hear what he has to say but I'm not ready for how it makes me see him
01:08I was like a check on hide
01:31once I got that call to do something it was like I went into another mind frame
01:38whatever they needed done dirty from breaking somebody's leg to shooting somebody or killing
01:49somebody I have certain things I wouldn't do for no less than 30 what's worth 30,000 what kind of job
01:57somebody's life
01:58how many times have you done that
02:02what are you doing that
02:17you
02:50This is a picture of maybe one of the first times my papal met me after I was born.
02:59It was first grandchild, first granddaughter, so I think he kind of put me on a pedestal.
03:05Grandpas and granddaughters have a special relationship.
03:08I think it means a lot to him that I think I did something for him.
03:14I think I changed something in him when I was born.
03:16I've seen this picture a lot growing up.
03:22It was just like our first meeting, so it was special and it was up in the house around.
03:29My mamaw kind of had like grandparent like picture frames, so it was like different pictures of him with me and her with me.
03:36And they didn't really do that for the other grandkids, so I was like kind of displayed around the house.
03:44I'm not sure exactly why he was in prison for this time.
03:49But it was just a part of his life that we knew about that he was in prison.
03:52I don't think he's ever looked like a violent man, but usually you can tell by people's eyes and you don't see that in his eyes.
03:59I see kindness in his eyes.
04:01My grandpa had metal rings.
04:22They probably cover your whole last knuckle.
04:25And they were like a skull or an eagle.
04:30He kind of had them in like one of my mamaw's curio cabinets with her angels, her angel figurines.
04:37I would put them on my hands at the time and just think they were cool.
04:43He didn't wear them on a daily basis.
04:45They were for occasions.
04:46I wouldn't say special occasions, but they were for a reason.
04:49I remember when I was at my grandparents' house for the weekend, and he was saying he had to leave, he had to go.
04:59And he slicked his hair all back.
05:02It was like he gelled it back.
05:04Usually he didn't do his hair.
05:06I thought that was weird that he did his hair.
05:07He rolled up his sleeves, and he put on his big rings.
05:12He looked intimidating to me.
05:15He left out of the garage, and I didn't see him for the rest of the night.
05:18And I've remembered it, you know, 18 years from then.
05:23It's always been in my mind.
05:36It was like a warm, inviting place, their house was.
05:39And it's weird, but, you know, it smelled like cigarettes and like vanilla.
05:43And like at Christmastime, they'd have a big old tree, and my papa liked to throw tinsel on it, like the old-timey trees.
05:52You never felt bad when you were there.
05:54You always knew you were loved.
05:56Everybody doted on each other.
06:00My grandpa, he just liked to spoil us on Christmas.
06:03It would be like you couldn't even get close to the tree, because the gifts would just be piling out.
06:09If I told him anything I wanted, it was always there.
06:14When I was younger, I heard that he worked on the oil rigs.
06:17He always worked for his money.
06:20He didn't want handouts when he was out here.
06:23He worked hard.
06:25I just always thought that's what he did, was when he was working, it was on the rigs.
06:29Because I guess we didn't really know who he really was.
06:38I didn't know of it back then, but I've learned recently that he had kind of side jobs that weren't probably as legal as working on the rigs was.
06:50How much do you understand about his involvement in this motorcycle club?
06:55I don't know a lot about it.
06:58I didn't, like I said before, I didn't even realize that that was a real thing.
07:02I don't know what he would have had to do, and they weren't just getting together to ride motorcycles and go to bars and stuff.
07:09I remember when my papa left, I was there for the weekend.
07:27I was sitting on the couch watching TV.
07:29I think I was the only kid there that day.
07:31Him and my mamma were arguing in the bedroom, in which they never argued, they never fought.
07:36This is just disrespectful. I don't have to stand here taking this crap.
07:40And he said, you know, F it, I'm leaving.
07:44And he stormed out of the house.
07:46He just left, got in his truck and left.
07:50I didn't expect to see that happen, and my mamma was upset, really upset.
07:55I heard her crying.
07:56I go into the room, and I sit with her, and I could see through my grandmother's pain that it was serious.
08:09Her husband, of however many years, just walked out on her.
08:13She's quite devastated.
08:14It was hard for me to see my mamma like that.
08:18I think I tried to hug her.
08:20That's all I really could do.
08:22Only being 12 or 13, I don't know how to really handle a situation like that.
08:29After I found out about his girlfriend, we kind of just were all like, no, thanks.
08:36How do you just leave a woman you've been with for 40 years, just like that, for somebody else?
08:44We didn't want really any part of that.
08:48I knew my mamma didn't deserve that.
08:51She always took care of him, was there for him.
08:54It took down my perception of him at that time.
08:56You know, he was treating my mamma bad.
08:59He hurt everybody's relationship with him when he did that.
09:01All the grandkids, his kids, his wife, he was really only thinking about himself then.
09:08That was probably, like, the first incident where I saw that he could do crappy things
09:12and let us see it, and he wasn't hiding it.
09:24This is a prepaid debit call from...
09:27Buster.
09:28You know, I was one of the guys, you know, if you need something done,
09:34if you need to get your hands dirty, go see Buster.
09:38I started running around with the wrong people, little bad people.
09:42Yeah.
09:43And then when she just looked at you.
09:45And then I started getting that rep, too.
09:48Yeah, he's not Buster.
09:50And I had a deal at a bar one night.
09:58Yeah, I cut a guy's arm off with a machete.
10:00This was one of our Easter gatherings.
10:13Maybe we were inside coloring Easter eggs, because we did it all the time at their house.
10:19But yeah, that was typical of my grandparents' house.
10:22The adults hanging out, the kids hanging out.
10:24There was always motorcycles around.
10:27Everybody just really doing their own thing, but also being around each other at the same time.
10:34I don't know why he threw it all away.
10:36There was a lot more closeness in our family in those days.
10:43And just the family gatherings aren't as everybody getting together and enjoying each other's time.
10:50I don't know.
10:52They don't feel the same anymore than they used to.
10:55One day, he decided to show up when my parents were gone.
11:17And we were told if he comes, we weren't allowed to go outside.
11:19We weren't allowed to talk to him.
11:20I mean, my brother and we just pretended we weren't home.
11:28Where are you guys?
11:31And he would go knock on all the doors and look in the windows and, like, holler that he knows we're there.
11:37It was stressful.
11:38And it was kind of scary.
11:39He didn't really know what was happening or what was going to happen.
11:43We'd see him in the driveway with a bandana on, his sunglasses.
11:53And he was just leaning up against his bike, just waiting for one of us to come outside.
12:00But we weren't allowed.
12:01I was watching the news at my grandmother's house.
12:20And they were, like, saying that this man was wanted for killing Dustin.
12:24Breaking news, Tom's News 9 at 6.
12:26A murder investigation is underway right now.
12:29And police are hunting for the accused killer.
12:32Because they have already identified a suspect as Wesley Clark, who is 52 and also goes by Buster.
12:39They put a picture up.
12:41They put his full name up on the TV.
12:44And they were, like, given, like, you know, sighting story.
12:47Could have been.
12:47This poster was put up because he was wanted for the murder of Dustin Moreland.
13:09And he was on the run at this time.
13:12He's been posted up in, you know, grocery stores and gas stations around town.
13:17Um, they made it seem like, you know, he was dangerous.
13:22You couldn't approach him.
13:23He would hurt you, I guess.
13:25But it seemed like a different narrative than I knew of him.
13:31I think everybody was stressed.
13:34They didn't really know what he was doing or where he was or what the circumstances were for everybody else in the family, too.
13:41So I think everybody had extra stress during that time.
13:44I've never, you know, had to see that side of him.
13:47And he does look different in this picture.
13:49Like, you can tell in his eyes that there's something going on with him.
13:54Something serious.
13:55This looks like the headline for when they announced that he had been captured.
14:11It's my grandpa in handcuffs with, um, three officers around him.
14:19Clark captured, wanted man in custody after manhunt in Carroll County.
14:23I guess he was behind an empty house.
14:31He was trying to, um, alter his appearance.
14:33So he dyed it all black.
14:36He just looked crazy.
14:38He didn't look like my papal.
14:39I was glad when he got caught.
14:45It was just unnecessary for him to be on the run if he knew he did wrong.
14:49And I do agree that he has to serve his time for what he did.
14:53He has to have his punishment.
14:55I just never would have thought that, you know, he was a criminal criminal.
14:58I've never seen that side to him to believe that he's a dangerous man.
15:06Like, he never seemed a danger to me ever in my life.
15:11Is it possible he was leading a double life?
15:21I don't, I don't doubt it at all.
15:22This call is from a DRC correctional facility and is subject to monitoring and recording.
15:34Wesley Clark at one point declined an attorney and represented himself.
16:03Tuesday, he yet again did something nobody saw coming.
16:07Plead guilty.
16:08I, uh, ended, uh, close to normal life.
16:18I'm really the only grandkid who talks to him anymore.
16:21And he just doesn't speak to really anybody.
16:25He doesn't have any of his siblings anymore.
16:27He doesn't have his parents.
16:28Because he's old and he's just in there for the rest of his life, however long it may be.
16:38I'd want to know, um, the real reason why he murdered Dustin and why he thought that was the route he had to take.
16:45Like, it'd be nice to know who he really was as a person during the time that he was my grandpa.
16:55What he was really doing the whole time I thought he was a good person.
17:00And I'm nervous to know, like, really who he was his whole life and my whole life.
17:06But I feel like it would make me understand him more.
17:10I'm nervous to know.
17:40I'm, uh, doing 30 to life for killing Dustin.
17:52It don't bother me to do something like I did.
17:56I mean, it really didn't.
18:00Are you a dangerous person?
18:03Yes, I can be a very dangerous person.
18:05Katie wants to know the real truth about who you are.
18:12And I feel like maybe she has not heard a lot of these stories.
18:16She doesn't really know who you are.
18:19Who I am.
18:20Are you that loving grandpa that she remembers?
18:23Or were you just hiding who you really are?
18:25I'll always be that loving grandpa.
18:31Always.
18:32But there's another side of me.
18:35You know?
18:36One night I took off work, man.
18:54And I go to the bar.
18:56And, uh, he's in there with two of his buddies.
19:00And right away they start running their mouth, man.
19:03And talking about, ah, you just left work.
19:05Didn't punch out or nothing, did you?
19:07I said, man, don't worry about what I did.
19:08And then I hear Carlos.
19:12I don't beat your ass, Buster.
19:13You were in your mouth, dude.
19:18I said, man, dude, get out of here, man.
19:21And he jumps, puts his fist up.
19:24I thought he could fight, you know, because the way he did, you know, it looked like he knew what he was doing.
19:29He didn't know what he was doing.
19:31He hit me, man.
19:31And I looked at him.
19:36I said, dude, man, is that all you got?
19:40And his words were, yeah.
19:42I said, boy, you're in trouble.
19:44You are in trouble.
19:46Well, he pulled out just behind his knife, man.
19:50He pulled that knife out.
19:51I said, oh, you're one of them, huh?
19:54I grabbed his arm.
19:55He didn't even do nothing with the knife.
19:56I grabbed his arm.
19:57And I smack him.
19:59He fell down.
20:01I get over it in my hand about three or four more times.
20:04He was snoring, so I know he was knocked out.
20:07So I walked away.
20:16But, yeah, he died the next morning.
20:20Did you ever think about that man again or his family or having a divorce?
20:24You know, yeah, I did because he had two little girls.
20:31You know, and I'd seen them, you know, when we were loading up to leave to go out of state.
20:39I'd seen these little girls with their mom.
20:42And I did, I felt bad about that one.
20:46I really did.
20:47And that's probably one of the only ones I really felt bad about.
20:51I just happened to hook up with a couple of guys I knew from years ago.
21:08And I started partying with them, going to their clubhouses and drinking.
21:14And it's a motorcycle club I was involved with.
21:18So whatever they needed done dirty, from breaking somebody's leg to shooting somebody or killing somebody,
21:26he, I was the one they called.
21:30Oh, the money was real good.
21:32I had certain things I wouldn't do for no less than $30,000, you know.
21:38$30,000?
21:38Yeah.
21:39What's worth $30,000?
21:41What kind of job?
21:42Somebody's life.
21:45How many times have you done that?
21:48Come on now.
21:49These guys, this club, this motorcycle club, a couple of them come to me because, you know,
22:07what I've been doing for them.
22:09They said, hey, we need you to go break this guy's legs when they're both broke.
22:15So I decided, no, I'm not going to do it.
22:17I don't need to draw more heat.
22:20I said, I'm not going to do that, man.
22:22I said, I got to stay out of trouble, man.
22:27About a week or two later, this dude, supposed to have been one of my best friends,
22:35come to me and tell me, hey, if you don't take care of this buster because you know too much about our
22:41that you're going to go down, man.
22:45You need to watch your family.
22:48I said, what did you say?
22:55He said, you need to watch your family.
22:58I went in the house.
22:59I got my shotgun.
23:00I was going to blow them off their bikes.
23:02You know, but they took off.
23:04This girl I was with, that other girl, she said, man, she goes, I'm worried, Buster.
23:16I'm real worried, man.
23:17You know, what about my daughters, you know, because she had a couple of kids.
23:22I said, man, I said, don't worry about it.
23:25I'm going to take care of it, man.
23:26Well, not only want me to take him out, they don't want me to break his legs, they want me to take him out.
23:46You know, and I told him straight out, I said, you know what the money is, you know what it costs, you know.
23:52And they said, yeah, we know.
23:53I met him at the bar.
23:57I was at the bar one night, and he was in there.
23:59I said, man, you want to go get high, dude?
24:02He goes, yeah, I'll go, let's go get high.
24:04I drove around for a while, man.
24:10I was just looking for the perfect spot.
24:14I said, I got pissed.
24:15I get out, and when I get out, I grab my pistol.
24:20It's in the door, and he gets out.
24:23I point the gun at him, and I said, you see what I got in my hand, dude?
24:27He says, yeah.
24:29I said, you know what I'm supposed to do with you?
24:32He goes, yeah, Buster, but everybody knows I'm going to do it.
24:34I'm with you.
24:35And I told him, I said, do you think I give a f***?
24:39And I walked him out through the woods, and I told him, I said, hug that tree, dude.
24:46He said, huh?
24:47I said, hug that f***ing tree.
24:53And when he did, I got behind him and shot him in the back of the head.
25:04Oh, they had the sheriff.
25:11They had the staff patrol.
25:13I mean, they had everybody out looking for me.
25:16And I was only on the run for about maybe a week.
25:28What did you think the outcome would be?
25:30You know, I didn't think it would be this.
25:33I really didn't.
25:34I felt my family was in danger, and I did an action to try and protect them.
25:40But the courts wouldn't let me do that.
25:41You don't think of the consequences.
25:45That's my problem.
25:48You know, I got a big problem with that.
25:53It's obvious.
25:54I mean, all my life I've been like that.
25:56How many times have you been in and out of jail and prison throughout your life?
26:08Oh, my.
26:11Well, I started doing time.
26:15As a Jew now, probably 13.
26:20You know, little dumb stuff, running away from home, stealing cars.
26:25You know, I started doing drugs at a young age.
26:29And it seems like every time I would get messed up, I was fighting.
26:36Every time.
26:38You know, and that's just the way I was.
26:41I grew up around a lot of violence.
26:45I've always been like that.
26:47If I get something in my head to do it, I do it.
26:51And don't think about, well, if this happens, if this happens, this is going to happen.
26:56I've never done that.
27:09When I've spoken to Katie, and she has a memory of you wearing these rings,
27:15what you would be doing, going out with those rings on and dressed the way you...
27:19Oh, if I hit you, it was over.
27:22It was over.
27:23I mean, I'm talking...
27:24I had two...
27:26I sat right here at the board.
27:28It said Buster.
27:29They weighed a quarter pound apiece.
27:31That's a lot of to have on your hands.
27:34And then I had one over here.
27:37A skull with spikes sticking out.
27:40And I forget what this I had here.
27:42And yeah, if I was going out just to beat somebody up good, that's what I wore.
27:48So she remembers...
27:50She remembers that.
27:50Yeah, she said she was about five years old, and you used to let her play with the rings,
27:57and she put her fingers in them.
27:58I don't remember.
27:59But she never really knew what was happening.
28:02No.
28:04No.
28:04But I'm glad she didn't, you know.
28:18I was at a bar, and this one dude, I knew him.
28:25You know, we've never seen eye to eye.
28:28And every time he was around me, I always wanted to talk bad, you know, and this and that.
28:34He said something.
28:36I forget what it was he said to me that night.
28:39And I said, man, I'll just cut your head off, dude.
28:43And he says, yeah, you ain't going to cut your off.
28:46I said, all right.
28:48And I sat there, and he kept running.
28:50I said, man, let's go outside.
28:52I went outside and opened my truck and grabbed that machete.
28:55And just as I turned around, he was going to swing, and I swung that machete.
28:58And I cut his arm off, dead off.
29:01And he didn't have nothing to say after that.
29:09What's it feel like to chop a guy's arm off?
29:12I didn't feel no different than beating him up.
29:15I told him I'd cut his head off.
29:17He's lucky I didn't get his head.
29:18I was feeling anxious today.
29:30I don't really know what he's going to say or what I'm going to learn today.
29:34I want to hear what he has to say and the truth that he holds within himself.
29:40These guys, this club, this motorcycle club, a couple of them come to me.
29:48They want me to take dusting them out.
29:50So I decided, no, I'm not going to do it.
29:52About a week or two later, this dude come to me and tell me, hey, you don't take care of this bus because you know too much about our ****.
30:03You're going to go down, man.
30:07You need to watch your family.
30:09I said, ****, don't worry about it.
30:11I'm going to take care of it, man.
30:13I said, ain't nobody need to worry about their family.
30:16So I told him, I said, okay, I'll do it.
30:21I didn't think that the gang was real.
30:27I didn't think that, you know, that they did things like that, I guess.
30:34I mean, he made it, he seemed like he made a business out of it, being a hitman or something.
30:39I mean, he didn't want to do it.
30:43So maybe he was trying to get away from all that, but he felt like he didn't have a choice this time.
30:52When I've spoken to Katie on the phone, she has a memory of you wearing these rings.
30:59Oh, if I hit you, it was over.
31:02It was over.
31:04And I had one over here, ****, a skull with spikes sticking out.
31:09And I forget what I had here.
31:11Yeah, if I was going out just to beat somebody up good, that's what I wore.
31:20What's going on in your mind?
31:23I don't know, it just makes me sad to hear him talk about stuff.
31:30He just had...
31:33I mean, he didn't really hide what he did.
31:37We just didn't really know.
31:41Exactly what he was doing.
31:42We thought he just...
31:44Had cool stuff, I guess.
31:56How do you feel about what you've learned?
32:00I mean, it shed a lot.
32:01It shed a light on a lot of things.
32:03It gave me an insight to, you know, a person that he can be.
32:10But I feel like he was doing maybe more things, too.
32:16It would be nice to finally find out the truth.
32:20All right, go ahead and push the space bar.
32:22I was in a bar.
32:33There's one dude, he said something.
32:36And I said, man, I'll just cut your **** head off, dude.
32:42I went outside and opened my truck, grabbed that machete.
32:45And just as I turned around, he was going to swing, and I swung that machete.
32:48And I cut his arm off, bit off.
32:52And I told him I cut his head off.
32:56He's lucky I didn't get his head.
32:57I was like...
32:58Wow.
33:20Thoughts?
33:23I mean, it's shocking to hear.
33:25More than anything, I'm just shocked that that's what he was doing in his free time, I guess.
33:34I mean, I don't know why that stuff doesn't affect him.
33:36Like, he could have did it and then was around all those kids the next day being our papal.
33:45I don't know.
33:46Are you surprised that he's capable of doing something like that?
33:51Yeah.
33:52I would have never guessed it.
33:54Any of this so far.
33:55One night I took off work, man.
34:14And I go to the bar.
34:15And he's in there with two of his buddies.
34:19And right away, they start running their mouth, man.
34:22I grab his arm.
34:23He didn't even do nothing.
34:24I grab his arm.
34:26And I smack him.
34:28He fell down.
34:28And I get over in my head about three or four more times.
34:35But, yeah, he died the next morning.
34:41Did you ever think about that man again or his family or have any remorse?
34:45You know, yeah, I did because he had two little girls.
34:52That's probably one of the only ones I really felt bad about.
34:56You know.
35:03It sounded like he had some anger issues or something.
35:08He didn't know how to take the high road.
35:12I don't think he would have had any remorse if he didn't see his kids, though.
35:16He saw the consequences of that one, I think.
35:21I wouldn't even have ever had a thought in my brain about it.
35:25There was a different side to him than we all knew.
35:45How would you describe your relationship with your family today?
35:53Not good.
35:56You know, uh, and that bothers me bad.
35:59I never, you know, I never thought my family would do that.
36:03Because I took care of my family, my whole family.
36:05But, uh, Katie, she's been the only one coming and seeing me.
36:13Why is it so hard for you to talk about Katie?
36:15Why is it so hard for you to talk about Katie?
36:16You know, uh, like I said, she's, uh, she's been right there for me, man.
36:34But, you know, as soon as she had her baby, she was here, you know.
36:38Uh, like she said, you know, she'll do what she can to make sure, you know, he's in my life, you know.
36:46Uh, and I believe her, you know.
36:51And she's the only one I got tattooed on me.
36:59I did that when she was born, you know.
37:03Yeah, she used to break my heart, man.
37:07Uh, every time she'd see me,
37:12she'd, uh,
37:17come running up to me and tell me how she loved me.
37:27What's going on in your mind?
37:30It's still hard to see him
37:31in prison, like,
37:34especially now.
37:35How he is, the way he is with oxygen and stuff.
37:39It's just hard to see him
37:40deteriorate, I guess.
37:42And I miss
37:45being around him,
37:47being able to talk to him.
37:57Do you owe your family,
37:59especially your wife and Katie,
38:02an apology?
38:04I am sorry,
38:06you know,
38:07that I couldn't be there.
38:09My whole family.
38:15Uh,
38:17you know, I just,
38:18I was family, man.
38:20I really was.
38:21Oh,
38:22uh,
38:23like I said,
38:25I just, uh,
38:26I got sidetracked there
38:28after I left
38:29my wife, you know.
38:31I love the
38:32out of Katie,
38:33and, you know,
38:35uh,
38:37all of them.
38:39I was like a Jekyll and Hyde,
38:41I guess you could say.
38:44You know,
38:44I'm really,
38:46you know,
38:46once I got that call
38:48to do something,
38:48it was like I went
38:49into another
38:50mind frame,
38:53you know.
38:54You know,
38:55ain't nobody
38:55want to remember me
38:56for killing people,
38:58you know,
38:59cut people's arms off,
39:00you know,
39:01shooting this guy,
39:03that guy.
39:04Ain't nobody
39:04want to remember
39:06somebody like me.
39:07If I can change
39:10anything right now,
39:11it would be
39:11the way my family feels.
39:16You know,
39:16that's one thing
39:17I would change right now.
39:20But I don't look like
39:22that's gonna happen.
39:29I know he sits
39:30and dwells on
39:31everything,
39:33and I know
39:34it does affect him,
39:35but he also made
39:36those choices himself
39:37he's a criminal.
39:39He's a,
39:40you know,
39:40murderer.
39:42Yeah,
39:43I think that was just
39:44his reality,
39:46I guess.
39:48I'm glad we didn't,
39:50you know,
39:50see that
39:51growing up,
39:52though.
39:54It would've made
39:54things a lot different.
39:59I can feel
40:00that he's sorry.
40:01I mean,
40:01he's a man of few words,
40:03so,
40:04you know,
40:04he can't
40:05spill his heart
40:06out on the table.
40:07he's,
40:08I don't think he's
40:08ever spilled his heart
40:09out on the table
40:10for anybody,
40:11but I do feel
40:13that he is sorry,
40:14and I do feel
40:15his remorse.
40:16I don't think anything
40:18would ever make me
40:19not love him.
40:33I had kind of like a feeling
40:34we were gonna get
40:35that kind of call
40:36or the call
40:36that he had passed away,
40:38and I was kind of a wreck
40:39for a little bit.
40:40He was glad to just be able
40:41to tell the truth
40:42to me,
40:43I guess.
40:44I feel better
40:45knowing that he's not,
40:46he's not suffering anymore.
40:47He's finally free.
40:50I feel,
40:50I feel better right now.
40:53Did you feel like
40:54he kind of waited
40:55for this interview
40:56to tell you
40:57and your family
40:58his last thoughts
40:59before he passed away?
41:00It kind of worked out
41:01that way.
41:02You know,
41:02he was able to tell
41:03some of the secrets
41:04he had.
41:06Our relationship grew
41:07from that point, too,
41:08so I feel like he felt
41:09like it was a good time
41:10to go.
41:11She's always believed
41:20in God,
41:21but she's turned
41:22her back.
41:23Deep inside of me,
41:25I want to believe
41:26my mom so bad.
41:28I just start swinging
41:28in the night,
41:29and Jeremiah wakes up,
41:32and he starts screaming,
41:33Mom, what are you doing?
41:34What are you doing?
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