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00:00Autumn walked home and when she arrived she had a stroke on the kitchen floor she wasn't breathing
00:10the paramedics main aim is to preserve life that the patient stays alive it's not until
00:17much later on that anybody is thinking that there are suspicious circumstances the fascinating thing
00:25about forensic toxicology is that it tells the truth a perpetrator is not able to hide a lot of
00:33people say you never know what goes on behind closed doors is it murder is it suicide is it
00:39natural causes trying to put this together would be an absolute nightmare but the answers are hidden
00:47within this crime scene
01:17Allegheny County dispatch receive a frantic call
01:32his wife wasn't breathing and he was absolutely panic-stricken
01:45okay calm down what's your name my name is Bob Ferrante oh please hurry okay just hang on the line
01:50Bob you're coming Jesus sweetheart please you could hear him talking to her Jesus Jesus sweetheart
01:58breathe don't do this to me okay Bob calm down you think she might be having a stroke yes she's been
02:04having these episodes for the past okay listen okay listen are you with her now yes yes right in front of
02:08her the woman is Dr. Autumn Klein Autumn was a 41 year old healthy woman she was known to eat really
02:17really well and take care of herself so it was really quite a shock she's just staring and can't answer
02:24you said she's just staring off is she able to talk at all no she cannot she's not responding to me
02:29she has this sort of like appetite it's all stiff honey sweetheart are you okay I'm sending the paramedics
02:36to help you okay I'm making sure help is on the way oh god help me god help me paramedics arrive
02:45within minutes Autumn is lying on the kitchen floor the main concern is preservation of life
02:54this woman was young healthy with no obvious injury was really unusual to find someone in this state
03:01paramedics would do everything they can to try and ensure that the patient stays alive
03:06my wife's trying to get pregnant again is she getting injections or all kinds of drugs yeah all kinds of
03:13drugs so she's on several different medications right now oh god I can't think Jesus Jesus Jesus
03:19she's having a difficult time breathing oh god god god god god paramedics move Autumn into the
03:28ambulance as Bob calls her parents and a friend to watch their six-year-old daughter
03:33the paramedics their home was less than a quarter of a mile away from a major trauma center in Pittsburgh
03:43and the hospital where Autumn worked the medical personnel working on her very quickly realized who
03:49she was and that she was one of their own Autumn was working with women who were trying to get
03:55pregnant or were pregnant and also had neurological diseases that they needed to try to balance to be
04:01able to to have a baby she was incredibly well loved in her medical field they made extreme life-saving
04:12measures to try to help her by the point where she had arrived she had clamped up her her hands had had closed
04:20Autumn is unresponsive doctors unsure why Autumn's had such a strange medical episode
04:27it's really important to learn everything you can about her to find out why has this happened
04:32they weren't sure if she was having a stroke if she was having some kind of heart situation
04:38there was even talk about there being an electrical brain storm in her brain
04:42they needed to start doing the tests that were necessary to try to identify what was happening
04:49one of the residents put the central line in
04:55the blood appears to be really red which is an indication of high oxygenation
05:02bright red blood is clinically a red flag the cells are unable to absorb the oxygen that is passing
05:11around the body because they've been blocked and that causes the blood to go that cherry red color
05:17that was a clue to them that her body was having some kind of of reaction to something that was in it
05:25blood samples were sent for toxicology analysis at the hospital
05:31bob arrives at the hospital as autumn's respiratory system worsens
05:37she's put on life support while her family wait for more news
05:45over the few days that autumn was in the hospital it was really hard for her friends and family to
05:56figure out what it was that was causing her to be so gravely ill
06:01the physicians who were treating her had done every test that they could think of they'd done
06:08brain imaging they'd done heart imaging and there was absolutely nothing that they found
06:13that was causing her to have such grave symptoms
06:16by april 20th autumn had shown no signs of brain function in any way and it was at that point where
06:26the family decided that they would remove life support measures from her
06:30desperate for answers autumn's parents pin their hopes on the pathologist
06:36they performed the autopsy on autumn the next day they were unable to find anything that they believe
06:45could have been the reason why she died awaiting the hospital's blood results autumn's body is released to
06:53the funeral home the fact that autumn died would have been a huge loss not only for family members but
07:03also for the medical community she was a very promising young lady with a lot to offer and her
07:11untimely death would have had a huge impact on the community at the time a number of her patients were
07:17devastated at her death autumn really took a lot of time with her patients and got to know them
07:22spent you know hours with them trying to help them she was able to help them to be able to carry a baby
07:29to term which was unexpected given their condition as the community begins to grieve the blood results
07:36send shock waves through the hospital it says that autumn looks like she had cyanide in her blood
07:42having cyanide in your blood is incredibly rare and quite shocking as a crime scene manager with 25
07:51years experience i've never had a case like this and it was immediately turned into a police investigation
07:59is it suicide is it an accidental cause of death or is she being poisoned with cyanide
08:12following the sudden death of 41 year old neuroscientist dr autumn klein pittsburgh police have an unusual case
08:23on their hands the hospital's blood tests have come back with a positive result for cyanide all suspicious
08:31deaths are subject to a second post-mortem examination police would like to have access to the body for a
08:37considerable period of time to reveal any other potential symptoms or any other injuries bruising that
08:45may help to improve the investigation in a case like this the main areas that might be considered is
08:51has the cyanide have been injected or has it been ingested orally but with autumn's death now deemed suspicious
09:00it's already too late for forensic examination
09:03when the hospital personnel realized that autumn had tested positive for cyanide they immediately called
09:12the medical examiner's office to relay those findings to them but her body was already released
09:19and bob he had her picked up by the funeral home and she was cremated two days later it meant that there
09:27was no further evidence that could be obtained from her it's a crazy situation further investigation is
09:35needed and her body's now been cremated within just a couple of days of her death the only lead
09:41investigators have are three blood samples they're sent to the lab to determine the levels of cyanide
09:49as detectives look into autumn's movements the first order of business really was to determine
09:57how she could have been exposed to cyanide it leads to a number of questions that i would want answers to
10:05where has she obtained the cyanide from is it self-inflicted or has somebody injected her or fed her
10:11cyanide through some food products is it innocent contamination so has she picked up something that's got
10:18cyanide on it the investigation begins where autumn collapsed the police always talk about the golden
10:29hour which is the first few hours of an investigation where there's prime evidence at that scene but when
10:38you're starting a police investigation three days after you've kind of lost that golden hour and any
10:43evidence that might have been at that scene has potentially been lost so you really have to search
10:49well to find any traces my forensic strategy would be around trying to formulate some kind of idea about
10:56the lifestyle of the people that lived there how they lived what they ate you cannot rush an examination
11:02like this before bob and his daughter go to stay with family detectives speak with him to build a picture of
11:10autumn's life autumn grew up in baltimore maryland she was an only child to parents who were a little bit
11:19older when they had her she excelled as a student she was always very much into the sciences was going to be
11:29a medical doctor so when she went to medical school she did that she got a medical degree autumn met robert
11:39when she had to go work at his lab as she was studying for her phd robert ferrante started out his
11:46career as a neuro researcher he was known to be studying diseases like lou gehrig's disease and
11:53huntington's disease he had established his own lab in boston he was 23 years older than her
12:00she called him bob and became attracted to him based on his intellect she thought he was incredibly smart
12:06he was quite charming and they hit it off very very quickly he mentioned once that when she showed
12:13up at his lab she was wearing ripped jeans and had a pink streak in her hair which i always thought was
12:18great before long the two scientists lived and worked together they were very close he referred to them as
12:27peas in a pod they very much enjoyed good meals and conversation they talked a lot about work their work
12:36was incredibly important to both of them in 2001 bob and autumn got married in a small candle lit ceremony
12:45they lived at his family home outside of boston and they remained there for several years
12:52years they had their first child she loved her daughter even though she had a very pressure-filled
13:00career she focused very much on her daughter she would take her to work with her and
13:08her daughter would lay under the desk she would color and play games and things like that even just
13:14to have that little bit of time to spend together because she was gone a lot because of her position
13:22autumn became known for her work in an untouched area of medical research
13:28she had a very close following with both her patients and the physicians she worked with she was
13:34traveling all over the world to specifically work with women who were suffering from neurological diseases
13:43autumn ran the women's neurology program at the university of pittsburgh medical center
13:49bob was able to transfer his funding and had his lab at one of the buildings on pitts campus
13:56the family brought a stately five-bedroom property in the historic district of the city
14:00less than two miles from the hospital and appeared very happy
14:04with a case like this there are several hypotheses that you could consider in any death is it murder is
14:17it suicide or is it an accidental cause of death the initial thought was how could she have been exposed
14:24to such a toxic chemical the initial thought was that it could have happened at work in one of her
14:33neurology labs a police trawl of cctv footage indicates that autumn left her work fit and healthy
14:44autumn had worked the entire day what they found was that she had no active projects or
14:50working with cyanide in any capacity for her research detectives rule out autumn's death as accidental
14:58they use the cctv to timeline her last known movements
15:03that video surveillance to show her coming down off the elevator and off the escalator at the end of her
15:09night autumn left work late she walked home because it was a really short distance away
15:13and when she arrived there robert heard the back door open she came inside and then within half an hour 40
15:23minutes her husband is calling 911 saying that she's collapsed at home that's a really short timeline
15:33investigators need to know what happened within those 40 minutes detectives needed to rule out that autumn
15:42might have killed herself has she actually taken the cyanide herself because she wants to commit suicide
15:49she wants to end her life detectives talk to autumn's loved ones her friends and her colleagues
15:58they traveled to boston to do that they traveled to baltimore and they interviewed everybody that they could
16:05think of autumn's friends tell detectives she was passionate ambitious and loved being a mother
16:14she'd been planning trips she'd actually talked with her cousin about that autumn and bob also had plans to
16:22extend their family autumn and robert had talked about having another child and they planned for it
16:30they tried for years including in vitro fertilization treatments repeatedly that were unsuccessful
16:40having seen so many specialists ferrante had talked about the potential of using creatine
16:49to help her to be more fertile and to be able to get pregnant autumn and bob had been texting about it
16:56just hours before she collapsed he had been urging autumn to take it for months he'd ordered it into his lab
17:16for her and it was it was really a big part of their relationship at that point and so by looking at
17:22those future plans they were able to establish that she was not suicidal detectives speculate on the
17:29last remaining hypothesis murder there were questions about who would have wanted to harm autumn
17:37why anyone would want to harm her she was so well loved that it was really a question of how anybody
17:44could want harm to come to her the toxicologist report from autumn's blood samples is ready
17:52cyanide has highly lethal effects on the human body and in short terms it starves the cells in the body
17:59of oxygen and kills people often within minutes the textbook definition of a lethal dose is something
18:07over three milligrams per liter and in autumn's case the concentration was 3.4 milligrams per liter which
18:17is an enormous concentration of cyanide and far far greater than anything she may have accidentally picked
18:26up from somewhere in my mind there can be no other explanation than that she was deliberately poisoned
18:35it ultimately turns the investigation into a murder investigation with a murder case now on their hands
18:46police declare the family home a crime scene
18:49the crime scene technicians were looking for things that might show evidence of cyanide they took
18:58autumn's hairbrush that there could be evidence of the toxin in her hair the vacuum cleaner looking at like
19:06the broom and dustpan could it have been something that had spilled in the house you would search the bins you
19:12would search any areas where there looks like there's been disturbance and any signs that someone might have
19:18removed items removed items from a crime scene they also looked through their medications
19:26the creatine that autumn had been taking for fertility was also a prime target of theirs
19:34the csis found no cyanide within that house
19:39it can be quite difficult putting together a case when you don't have the murder weapon
19:42you have to widen your search in the couple's office they seize personal devices diaries and financial records
19:55one interesting thing that was found was shredded pieces of paper in the shredder machine
20:00so as a matter of course the contents of that will be seized and pieced together it's a huge task
20:07not knowing if there's anything important in there or not but in this type of investigation
20:11you're searching for any clues possible when you've got very little other evidence to go on
20:17you really do have to try and see if anything might be relevant to a case trying to put this together
20:25would be an absolute nightmare but it's got to be done you don't know if there's anything worthwhile in
20:32here but there may well be so it's really important to try and piece things together which is a bit like
20:37doing a jigsaw but with 10 000 pieces and you don't even know what you're looking for the best way to
20:45search through something like this is pick out stuff that definitely looks like it's from the same source
20:51but these have got blue on them so i'm just gonna pull out the bits that have blue on them and then
20:57the bits that have obviously dark blue pen where something's been scribbled out
21:01and that looks like it might say robert might get some good results but it does take a long time
21:11as forensics piece everything together they look at autumn's diary
21:17and get an intimate insight into her life i am not sure where to go from here
21:24i just know that i am incredibly unhappy i just feel like something is missing in my life
21:34i think that thing missing is love the picture perfect marriage bob has painted
21:42immediately falls under scrutiny investigators were able to use emails to try to establish what it was
21:50their relationship was what it was like in the days weeks and months leading up to her death
21:58throughout their marriage autumn had complained to her close friends and loved ones that ferrante had
22:04been controlling he was a little bit standoffish when family would visit he had a reputation for being a
22:10little bit of i guess a know-it-all and and sometimes that would rub people the wrong way
22:15you know on her drive home from work he would call her multiple times to figure out where she was and
22:22her answer would always be i'm five minutes further down the road than the last time you called even
22:27little things like at their home if she left a teacup on the counter he'd get angry frantis was described as
22:36a controlling person and we can see through the way that the relationship was playing out that that control
22:44was there detectives knew a little bit about some of the relationship problems and and autumn's concerns
22:52they found an email in which autumn said to a friend and colleague of hers i think i'm in trouble
22:58in that she was referencing ferrante's jealousy that she had seen over the last several months
23:05raising alarm bells detectives look for further lines of inquiry it's really important for the
23:15police in an investigation like this to go back to what was first seen at that scene when the paramedics
23:21first arrived something that was really strange to the paramedics was that bob immediately said to
23:30them you should take her to shadyside which is another local hospital he said that's where her
23:35folks are her folks are there and the paramedics were like we're in the middle of a medical crisis
23:41we're going to take her to the hospital that's local concerns grow around bob's behavior there were
23:49several elements that cast suspicion during those three days where she was kept alive at the hospital
23:56bob was already talking about her in the past tense saying things like she was such a good wife and it
24:05was really weird to autumn's family who heard him speaking in that way then doctors tell detectives of
24:13some of bob's demands the fact that her husband didn't want an autopsy and pushed for cremation within
24:20several days of her death would instantly raise my suspicions because he wants rid of the body therefore
24:27there's no forensic evidence possible the first person who in my mind would be a prime suspect would be her
24:33her husband
24:46robert ferranti is suspected of poisoning his wife
24:5041 year old neuroscientist dr autumn klein
24:53on the surface this relationship seemed like a very normal family relationship but you never know
25:03what goes on behind closed doors
25:09by combing through autumn's personal history those emails and text messages and interviewing her friends
25:16and family investigators learned that autumn had been unhappy in her marriage
25:21controlling relationships are all based around the hierarchy when autumn and frantis got together
25:30first there was a power dynamic in that relationship she was a student he was the supervisor
25:37he was the man forging ahead in his career had already probably reached the heights of it
25:42so frantis would be at the top of that hierarchy he is the most important person in the relationship
25:49she is below him in that hierarchy when that starts to get messed up and things start to change that's
25:56when things can get really quite dangerous in a relationship
26:03although on the surface he was helping autumn with her fertility
26:08the digital breakthrough offers a very different perspective
26:11the biggest source of tension in autumn and ferranti's marriage was very much the notion of
26:21her wanting to have a second child and him not
26:27i hate to say it bob but through this entire mess you have not been there for me
26:32he had spoken to other people about it and talked about basically that he was too old
26:41to be a new father again people would mistake him for the grandfather but for autumn her dreams of
26:49having a second child were paramount he may appear to be encouraging her in this dream to have another
26:57child but really he was starting to lose control of autumn
27:04i realize now i have been alone in this entire emotional journey she'd actually talked with her
27:12cousin that although she very much wanted to have another child she had become frustrated with ferrante
27:19that he wasn't helping her enough that he didn't care about her fertility treatments and
27:26she was at a point where she was talking about leaving him i don't know where i want to go from here
27:34i don't know what else to say bob after 12 years of marriage they appear to reach breaking point
27:43there were reports from autumn's family members that she had been contemplating moving out of the
27:51family home and had plans to do it the next summer there was an email i don't know where things are going
27:58to go and you may not like what you hear but i think it is about time we talked autumn is actually
28:07planning a separation so now there is a very different dynamic there he's not as powerful as he used to be
28:18for fronty this is what we call the trigger event how dare you leave me
28:25investigators don't necessarily need a motive but having evidence of marital discord and
28:39frustration of her pregnancy all of those things contribute to motivation and the reasons why
28:46ferrante could be suspected of killing her as the evidence builds around him detectives receive alarming
28:55news this looks like potentially a letter the intelligence from this kind of letter is quite
29:04important which could be fed back into the police teams written after autumn's death the letters were
29:12basically goodbye letters there was some discussion whether or not they might have even been goodbye
29:18letters relative to a potential threat of suicide that ferrante was looking to kill himself
29:25ferrante is declared a high-risk wanted man
29:31armed with an arrest warrant police fly to florida
29:34police encircle the address
30:05but ferrante isn't there the digital forensic team traces his phone
30:14when a suspect has been identified it's really important to look at anything else that's linked
30:18to that suspect in this case the suspect was autumn's husband so ideally you would like to be searching
30:27his place to look at his place of work and also his car
30:31there's huge challenges in examining a vehicle especially several days after the incident has been declared a crime
30:39there could have been a lot of evidence that's been removed from that vehicle so
30:42it can create a lot of challenges
30:45when you're searching a car you're really looking for anything that looks out of place
30:49anything that shouldn't be in the car or appears to be hidden in the car you'd be searching under the
30:55seats in the glove box and in the boot area
31:02investigators found a laptop
31:04and they also found a usb drive in the trunk
31:10computer equipment that usbs would have to be preserved correctly when removed from the vehicle
31:15so they'd be bagged and removed from the scene
31:22quite unusual to leave your laptop in a car and usb drives especially in the boot of a car
31:27which tends to suggest that these were potentially hidden away from the police
31:35prior to sending them off for digital forensics they might well get some fingerprints on the
31:39screen of the laptop and dna potential on the actual keys on the laptop so it's kind of looking as
31:47to the most keys that are used potentially so you wouldn't necessarily use the top keys on the laptop
31:53but you'd use the space bar and the return key quite a lot and a lot of the letters
31:58so i'm just going to take some swabs from some of these areas so literally just wet a swab and run it
32:05over the surface sometimes with the pointy swabs you can kind of get down into the grooves of the keys
32:11which helps to pick up any residual dna they need to be downloaded to see what items have been saved
32:18on the usb drive and what internet searches have been undertaken while waiting on the results detectives
32:29speak to autumn's colleagues at the point where autumn was killed her career was very much on the upswing
32:40she was a sought-after speaker at medical conferences she had established this women's neurology program
32:47and was really at the peak of her career ferrante who'd been doing the work he had for decades
32:57was not the star in the relationship anymore there was jealousy of how her career was going
33:05that would have caused problems for him if she's doing better than him in her career that is a threat
33:12if she's starting to look as if she's not quite as interested in him as she used to be maybe he's
33:18thinking he's not as attractive as he used to be this is the melting pot for real problems
33:26ferrante's digital footprint reveals a growing pattern of jealousy ferrante suspected without
33:35reason that she had been cheating on him and he confronted her in emails about it and he wasn't
33:44willing to accept her explanations that they were just friends so much so that he even looked for a
33:52divorce attorney in pittsburgh when ferrantes accused autumn of having an affair he's imagining that
34:01there's gonna be a separation he was starting to lose control of autumn and research shows a controlling
34:10person the most dangerous people to be in a relationship with and especially if you start to say
34:18you want to leave them investigators get a call from his attorney the attorney wanted him to be able
34:27to turn himself in but the detectives and prosecutor wouldn't allow it and so they had to figure out
34:33where he was and they did eventually they ended up arresting him on the side of a highway in west virginia
34:47ferrante was taken into custody because of the potential suicide letters that had been found shredded in
34:54the home they kept him in protective custody and wearing a suicide smock with ferrante under close
35:03surveillance csis leave no stone unturned it's really important in a place investigation to try and find
35:12the murder weapon whether it be a knife or a gun or something like that whereas in a poisoning case it's
35:18slightly different because you need to find the source of that poison cyanide is not freely available
35:26so it's restricted access so only people with legitimate reasons to be able to purchase it so
35:33normally laboratories that are undertaking research would be able to purchase cyanide detectives went to
35:40ferrante's lab at the university of pittsburgh there they searched his office they searched a safe that
35:47they found within his office and they also searched the lab where he conducted his research
35:55within the lab there was a container labeled potassium cyanide
36:02forensics securely fast track it to the lab
36:06on the top of the desk was a receipt for cyanide which he had overnighted just a couple days before
36:15autumn died and instead of ordering it through the traditional grant based funding that they would
36:22use he put it on a purchasing card for the university which was unusual because he had no active projects
36:29in his lab that would have required that drug this discovery was a huge moment in the investigation
36:36cyanide is a hugely toxic chemical very rarely used it's incredibly suspicious this looks like this belongs to our killer
36:51but there's a question that i would want answers to
36:54how has she become poisoned with cyanide how has that been ingested
37:03pittsburgh police look back to the crime scene as the detectives put their case together they recall
37:09specifically that the paramedics saw a ziploc bag which bob said was creatine that autumn had been using for
37:17fertility treatments that was the key to the case
37:33pittsburgh police have robert ferrante in custody suspected of murdering his wife neuroscientist autumn klein
37:41when the paramedics first arrived they stated that they remember seeing a bag of white powder on the
37:49kitchen worktop and ferrante stated that this was creatine
37:59detectives refer back to their evidence to investigate how he may have administered the poison
38:04also a witness in ferrante's lab described to investigators that he had seen his boss acting
38:13strangely including at one point mixing creatine in the lab in small bottles to take home
38:22also the text messages in which ferrante referenced the creatine that autumn had been using for fertility
38:29treatments they were able to link that with the paramedics they wondered whether that was the method
38:36with which the cyanide was delivered to autumn through that creatine
38:41police believe ferrante exploited his wife's dreams of having a second child
38:47encouraging her to drink the poison disguised as a way to help her become pregnant
38:53the lethal dose is around five milligrams per kilogram of body weight so for someone like
39:01myself a definitely lethal dose would be around 400 milligrams which is precisely the amount of
39:08chemical i have in this little vial here on further investigation it was found that 8.3
39:14grams of potassium cyanide was missing from one of the pots that was taken from the lab
39:20over 20 times the lethal dose is unaccounted for
39:26the digital forensic team reports one more damning find
39:31they recovered ferrante's google search history among the searches that he conducted in the days
39:38leading up to and after autumn's death included symptoms for cyanide poisoning how to detect cyanide
39:46poisoning in an autopsy and ultimately how to erase my google search history
39:54they believed that that was a linchpin in showing that it was premeditated
40:01police have all they need to charge ferrante with his wife's murder
40:05in most cases there are levels of planning before these homicides it looks like he followed the typical
40:15path of a controlling killer who planned the demise of their partner
40:20and being a medical doctor he's not going to use the usual methods of you know like shooting
40:33or strangling her or stabbing her he's going to be far more underhand and far more cunning
40:41not many people can get hold of cyanide but as well if you add on to that he had the medical knowledge
40:51to be able to describe the symptoms of cyanide poisoning as something else
40:57because this man wants to get away with it
41:0718 months after autumn's sudden death
41:12robert ferrante stands trial over a 25 year career covering criminal justice i have never had a poisoning
41:20each day the courtroom was packed every media outlet was there the courtroom watches the cctv of autumn's
41:32last day for me when you saw her start out that morning you can see her striding into work her hair is
41:40down she looks kind of ready to seize the day and by the end of the night you know 14 or 15 hours
41:47later her hair was in a ponytail you know she looked tired she had her bag on her shoulder you
41:55know her day was like everybody else's right and to see that and know that those were you know among
42:02her last moments was really very difficult to watch over 40 witnesses take the stand to piece together the
42:11case for the jury the biggest moment of the trial was when the defense said they called bob ferrante to
42:23the stand he sounded completely different than he had in the 911 call the tone of his voice was different
42:30the pitch of his voice was different and to see him up on the witness stand acting kind of charming
42:37and trying to present the relationship that he and adam had in the way that he wanted to it was really
42:44striking he was the controlling personality from the very beginning when he found out that she was even
42:55thinking of leaving him he decided how she was going to be punished for that he decided that she was going
43:01to die he decided how he was going to get away with it he decided how he was going to control the medical
43:09professionals the criminal justice professionals was very well set up to be able to get away with this
43:15with this murder the jury retires
43:20after 15 hours they find ferrante guilty of first-degree murder he is sentenced to life in prison without the
43:33possibility of parole it's interesting that a lot of people say you never know what goes on behind closed
43:39doors on the surface this relationship seemed like a very normal family relationship behind the scenes it was
43:48clearly a very toxic marriage it's very clear that she was a highly esteemed woman very ambitious
43:57a mother and knew a lot around females and women's pregnancies the thing that sticks with me is what
44:05was lost in autumn's death not only was she an incredible mom and a good friend and colleague and daughter
44:14and cousin you know her life's work was to help people and you just think to yourself what might
44:23have been had she not died what might have been if she was able to continue on for the next 20 or 30
44:29years of her career how many lives she might have been able to change and that is incredibly heartbreaking
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