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00:00okay so this interview is being recorded is also being monitored by our supervisors
00:13you've been arrested this morning can you tell me the offense that you've been arrested for
00:20um you suspect that I killed somebody yeah okay so you're here because you've been arrested for
00:29the offense of murder against Annette Smith so are you responsible for the death of Annette Smith
00:42yes
00:50soon as the news come out that Annette was missing the first thing we all said was have you spoke to Scott
00:55they were always with each other some people seem to think that he was her carer but I had the
01:02impression that he was a friend and more of a lodger maybe they had a fantastic relationship they were
01:07like a mother and son she was on her own obviously vulnerable she let him live with her he's just a
01:14guy that everyone knew in the area just really friendly genuinely shocked
01:19and we want to bring closure and find the net for her family where is the net
01:27it's crucial that we find the truth
01:44got to question everything believe nobody
01:51it's almost a game of chess trying to slip up
01:55this is your opportunity to talk to me
01:58your legal rights still stand and I know that you've said you don't want to solicit up but that's an
02:19ongoing right I find it really difficult to comprehend how somebody can go from nothing
02:27to murder and it does make me worry whether this is his only offending
02:35we want the truth from you in this interview yeah and I want you to be completely truthful with me so
02:43have you ever done anything like this before
02:45not that I can think of
02:53so when you say not that you can think of take your time
03:01yeah
03:01because you would know if you have done something like this before
03:07okay yeah
03:08no I've never done anything you've never killed anybody before no okay
03:27even though Scott has confessed we still have to test what he's saying and challenge what he's saying
03:38he may confess to parts of what has actually happened because actually that is better than us finding out the actual truth of what happened
03:50but I think with this particular case we don't know where Annette is we have no body
03:56and not only do we need to know that for evidence and to be able to prove what has happened to her
04:02but also there's a family that are missing their loved one as well
04:05so trying to you know really understand what has gone on and dig as deep as possible to
04:12get to the truth is really important
04:19just before all the missing stuff started Scott had really changed in his demeanor
04:29I saw him one day outside parked under the tree which was Annette's parking spaces
04:36he'd gone from being this flamboyant you know extrovert to kind of trying to go unnoticed if you like
04:46he'd put weight on his hair was longer he was drinking more
04:52it was almost like there was two sides to him
04:56yeah
04:56there's just one or two inconsistencies that we want to clear up
05:09he started work last July at the farm it did involve butchering so that was of interest
05:15he told his boss as well in the same thing that we got yesterday
05:18that he had an operation on the 31st of October
05:22it's been mentioned that he had five weeks off of work from someone
05:25and I do know that he has emailed or text Pat to say
05:29that he's stressed with it or needs some time off work
05:32I think he was supposed to go back off three weeks
05:34he was supposed to the first day he was due back in
05:36she said he only managed half a day
05:38and then went off and then was given loads of excuses
05:41for another couple of weeks before he actually managed to get back
05:44and I think that's been a bit of a theme throughout
05:47you know right back from the high risk investigation
05:50that his accounts to various different people
05:53are very inconsistent
05:54you had started annual leave
06:0330th of October
06:05that was your first day of annual leave from work
06:07yeah
06:08okay
06:08so when you've taken your annual leave
06:10how long have you agreed with work at that point
06:13that you were going to have off work
06:15two weeks
06:16two weeks
06:16yes
06:16and it was during that second week
06:19that that's when you've suffocated Annette
06:21yeah
06:22what was work's understanding of you not being there
06:26what have you said to them
06:30I had to go to hospital
06:37okay
06:38what for
06:39an operation
06:45so you have told work that you had to go to hospital for an operation
06:51yeah
06:51okay
06:52what did you tell them the operation was for
06:55to have a tumour removed
07:01okay
07:02from where
07:04my abdomen
07:06okay
07:09did you have to go to work
07:10no
07:10okay
07:11talk to me about that
07:13I was worried that I wouldn't be able to get the time off
07:17because
07:18it was really busy
07:22so I lied
07:25it's difficult to trust everything that Scott is telling us
07:34because clearly he's not telling us everything
07:36and in some cases he is lying
07:39and after all
07:41he's not telling us
07:42I have to go to school
07:45so he didn't do it
07:46I have to go to school
07:47over
07:48and he was like
07:49so I had to take the time off
07:49so he was going to be able to get the time off
07:51and he was like
07:51and he was like
07:52and he would have to go to school
07:53and he was like
07:54to keep my country
07:54and he was like
07:55like
07:56like
07:57I know
07:58and I'm going to play
07:59because
07:59he was like
08:01I know
08:01yeah
08:02and he came to go
08:02and see
08:03like
08:04I want to get
08:04myself
08:05yeah
08:06In my opinion, telling your employees you've got cancer to have time off work is extreme.
08:24Yeah.
08:25You know, you could have said, you could have just said I felt sick.
08:29Yeah.
08:30Yeah.
08:31Mm.
08:32Mm.
08:34What made you go to that sort of lengths just to get some time off work?
08:38I don't know.
08:41Did you take the time off work because you knew you were going to kill Annette?
08:45Yeah.
08:46Yeah.
08:47Yeah.
08:48Yeah.
08:49Yeah.
08:50Yeah.
08:51Yeah.
08:52Yeah.
08:53Yeah.
08:54Yeah.
08:55Yeah.
08:56Yeah.
08:57Yeah.
08:58Yeah.
08:59Yeah.
09:00Yeah.
09:01Yeah.
09:02Yeah.
09:03Yeah.
09:04With the suspect in custody, Bedfordshire Police's Intelligence Unit analyze his phone.
09:10Looking to see if there's anything contained in his recent watching history that may give
09:17an insight into what's occurred or anything that might have been in his mindset.
09:21Okay.
09:22So these are all in his list.
09:24A lot of gory stuff, isn't it?
09:26This one's quite a gruesome series as well.
09:29He likes his horror, doesn't he?
09:31Yeah.
09:32It's a large percentage of it, isn't it?
09:34Yeah.
09:35There's loads.
09:36Yeah.
09:37Yeah.
09:44When you're looking at a domestic related murder, it is extremely important that you
09:49understand the relationship between them to try and understand where things might have
09:54started to go wrong, started to turn a bit sour.
09:59Tell me about your relationship with Annette.
10:04Me and my partner at the time split up and we sold our house and I didn't really have
10:11anywhere else to go in Annette.
10:12I said, oh, will you just come and stay with me for a bit?
10:15She said, I've got a spare room.
10:17So I moved in and we just got our house on fire.
10:24We would cook for each other.
10:26We'd go out to theatre and for meals.
10:31People would come round.
10:32She'd do dinner parties.
10:33We just had a really nice time.
10:36I guess I was a house guest really, but we were friends.
10:41But three years ago, she went into hospital and had a mini stroke.
10:48She could do less for herself than she could before.
10:51She barely got out of bed.
10:54I was the only visitor.
10:55Yeah.
10:56I had to stop.
10:57There was no one else that I, as far as I can tell, ever went into that flat for four,
11:05three or four years.
11:07She hardly ever had anybody coming into the house.
11:11She used to before.
11:13She'd have her nails done and her hair done and go out and all her jewellery and look nice.
11:20But yeah, she sort of didn't want to do any of that after she got poorly.
11:26Yeah.
11:27OK.
11:28She's had house dinner parties.
11:30Mm-hmm.
11:31Always, Annette's always got something going on.
11:34Everybody knew her as a queen around here.
11:36Aw.
11:37Yes.
11:38It sounds like she was really outgoing, being known as the Queen of Fairfield and she's
11:46talking about obviously having a lot of parties and having everybody round.
11:50And she always had some nice jewellery.
11:53Now, Scott said that she took her jewellery with her.
11:56OK.
11:57Oh, God, she did like, they said that she liked her big jewelry.
12:13Yeah, yeah.
12:14But those earrings, she wears them in photos.
12:16Oh, that necklace.
12:17It's a necklace.
12:18Where do these photos come from?
12:19Their huts.
12:20It's a big privilege.
12:21Oh.
12:22I think I've got something of interest here.
12:3924th of November, nine days after Annette goes missing, so on Scott's phone, he has got
12:46two valuation messages from Cash for Gold.
12:50So he's clearly sent something off to them to get valued.
12:53OK.
12:54So yeah, if we can get a DPIA into them.
12:56Yep, no problem.
12:57It'd be good to know if any payments have been made to him.
13:00Yep.
13:01What it was, and then I'll obviously speak to the OET and see if they can speak to the
13:05family and see if she's got anything that's missing.
13:07Yeah.
13:08Bearing in mind that is nine days after he says that she's gone missing.
13:11Yeah, we'll have a look at his financials, see what he's received, if there's any payments
13:15in from Cash for Gold as well.
13:17What I'm looking for is details of the items, if they've got any visual on it, what the estimate
13:23was and if it was paid.
13:25Yeah.
13:26And I suppose it's probably worth asking if they've got any other history.
13:30Cash for Gold.
13:45So it's a receipt for £2,715.
13:51Check deposit.
13:53Cash for Gold.
13:54How can I help?
13:55Oh, hi, Scott.
13:56Mr. Gold.
13:57Hi, Scott.
13:58I've got your valuation ready.
13:59Twelve items in total.
14:00The chain with the six small diamond chips.
14:01There's no value in these stones, unfortunately.
14:02Okay.
14:03The money's really in the metal there.
14:04What's the silver diamond chips in the trade?
14:05And there's a bangle that is silver.
14:06There is a value in silver, but it is a fraction of the price of gold.
14:10All together, sir, I've got £2,511 for you.
14:16If you're happy with that, I can get you paid, sir.
14:17Yeah, thank you very much for that.
14:18Yeah, you're more than welcome.
14:19Did you pay rent or anything for stones?
14:20No.
14:21What was the arrangement there?
14:22Oh, it's like, no.
14:23The one size item is somewhere.
14:24The current item is up to be a store, but it is a fraction of the price of gold.
14:26Mm-hm.
14:27All together, sir, I've got £2,511 for you.
14:29Oh, brilliant.
14:30If you're happy with that, I can get you paid, sir.
14:32Yeah, thank you very much for that.
14:33Yeah, you're more than welcome.
14:45Did you pay rent or anything for stones?
14:48for stones so what was the arrangement there i tried to offer her rent on a number of occasions
14:55but she'd always refuse so when we went out for dinner and stuff i'd pay for things like that
15:02hello darling and she's a speaker and you know me i don't eat that much so a medium size
15:09one or two yeah i'll do that that's not a problem oh hi scott hello darling i'm out of ciggies if
15:16you can pop on for five minutes can you bring me something absolutely no worries at all thank you
15:23so much bye cheers bye i could just eat a duck breast tonight yep no problem did you have money
15:31problems before you moved in within it um i got into a lot of credit card debt about six years ago
15:40how much were you in debt i think it was about 30 000 okay one of the lines of inquiry that we
15:50conducted which is quite normal in any investigation is into scott's finances to establish if there is a
15:59financial motive the business partner that that scott was with he was aware that scott was spending a
16:08lot of money and he was a bit concerned about this and him and his partner decided to speak with with
16:15scott just to highlight their concerns but he was scott was kind of like look for the moment and he said
16:21everything was was fine until november 2018 whereby he gets a letter from the tax man to say that uh
16:29they owe 20 000 pounds and then he digs a little deeper and he discovers that uh he's not been paying
16:35the corporation tax um suppliers um etc and the figure um then appears to be more in the region of 50 000
16:44pounds in debt but he does say that in his opinion it was down to mismanagement and incompetence
16:53on scott's behalf rather than any um dishonesty when scott and steve parted company scott was spending
17:00money like it was going out of fashion he got a new car went on holidays and paying for friends to go
17:05with him uh scott wasn't concerned it was very much uh live for today all right okay interesting
17:14they want to build up a financial history for him so now anything in terms of his finance
17:28there's loads of letters here and stuff with annette's name on just miscellaneous paper belonging to
17:35annette smith well so this is a better thing for him yeah this is probably going to be the most key
17:45thing so miss annette smith card in the name of scott patterson scott lived a parasitic lifestyle
17:58we've looked at scott's bank account and he certainly didn't have a stable income so living with
18:06annette would have been a really attractive proposition for him
18:16this is her place in spain
18:18she'd often go away with family and friends on holiday she'd just do it because she wants people
18:30to be together and enjoy themselves she'd be the one let's let's go away for a weekend she was quite
18:37glamorous you look at images and photos from her from when i sort of got to know her from the 80s
18:42she had the big shoulder pads and you know she was that she liked a gin and tonic and a cigarette she
18:47did like wearing nice clothes she liked the finer things she liked her jewelry i would say if it
18:54shines she liked it so if it had a twinkle or a sparkle that would be the jewelry she would often go for
19:01happy birthday to you so this video is being taken while annette is missing
19:17that doesn't look like a man who's sickened by what he's done
19:20he just looks like the life and soul of the party doesn't he just a really fun loving person
19:32460 friends from scott's social media you can see that there are pictures of him on holiday enjoying
19:40himself it certainly appears to be a lifestyle that is beyond his means he relied on annette he
19:52was living at her house rent free and she was basically funding his lifestyle
20:01the intelligence unit received video evidence of items sent by the suspect for valuation by cash for gold
20:08all right let's see if we can match them with the transactions yeah what's the most expensive one
20:13you've got uh there is um on the 14th of november 12 items were sent in including gold chains bangles
20:22and chains and that's gonna be this just over two and a half thousand pounds spot patterson two zero four
20:30nine three four nine three four six five items yeah look there's um bangles multiple necklaces yeah
20:41and that looks a right weighty thing that's going to be worth a few quid isn't it yeah you know that is
20:46a lot of jewelry you know we should be able to quite easily attribute that to a net you're looking at
20:53you know three and a half thousand pounds worth of gold transactions this is going to be
20:59a significant amount of money to someone in his situation isn't it i think so definitely yeah
21:04could she have found out that he was selling all the gold i mean that's a quite a lot that he sold
21:07already could that have been the flashpoint as to as to what's happened yeah well yeah i mean it's got
21:13to be put to him isn't it it definitely yeah
21:28uh scott patterson has sold jewelry which we believe belongs to annette
21:34scott has been contacting cash for gold over five different occasions with different bundles
21:41of jewelry in total he sent 34 items and has received 5 000 and 28 pounds back from cash for gold
21:49the fact that scott was stealing and selling annette's jewelry does add to the hypotheses that you know it
21:59was a financial motive not just what he was trying to sort of lead us to in terms of having enough of
22:09her demands and caring for her
22:22there are a couple of things i want to put you that just a few inconsistencies
22:26that we just need to clarify so first of all um i want to talk to you about cash for gold so tell me
22:34what you know about cash for gold
22:39i don't know
22:39do you not know or do you just not want to say because you're embarrassed um
22:53because now is the time to tell us
22:56how many times have you been to cash for gold and sold jewelry
23:09uh once for myself um jewelry that i had and that's how i knew about cash for gold
23:25okay so we've got a statement so you've gone five times okay
23:33right twice after you'd killed her three times before
23:40okay and the first time is on the 27th of july
23:43and that's before annette's died oh
23:48right so what have you sold uh a half sovereign um a south african gold coin
23:59i can't remember what else it's all i can remember so on the 27th of july four items were sent
24:06in the 27th of july four items were sent including platinum stone earrings and a sovereign coin
24:13okay so who's with the platinum stone earrings
24:19i guess they must have been annette's
24:22why do you say you guess because i don't know why i would have platinum earrings
24:27so were they annette's or were they not annette's i don't remember
24:37are you saying you don't remember when you don't want to give me an answer
24:41i must have been are you aware that you didn't go to them with your stuff yeah okay so you've lied yeah okay
24:55okay
24:57who gave you permission to sell
25:00nightly okay so you'd stolen those from annette yeah where were they in the house
25:04uh in her jewelry box okay so you've gone through her jewelry box and taken her earrings and sold them
25:13yeah so was annette in the room the time at the times that you were taking her jewelry
25:17yeah did she see you take the jewelry no
25:23i'd just do it when she was asleep okay and on the times that you've taken the jewelry
25:27after you've killed annette where would have been in the property in the covering stairs
25:40just see if there's any blood on it at all i can't see with no trace of a body
25:46officers searched the estate where annette smith lived and its surroundings
25:57there's a hole or something in europe but there's no hair there's no footprints
26:11i just wanted to have a quick chat with you about this netflix data just to see what he was looking
26:14at just before the disappearance but he watches a massive amount of blood gore and murderers and
26:21quite a bit of that comes within the last couple of months leading up to it could be a coincidence but
26:27the title he watches a trailer of the day before she goes missing is called the murderer
26:31it's certainly interesting isn't it given the circumstances another title that he looks at
26:35is called the funeral director he shares the science and procedures involved in his profession
26:42it's a bit different when you're when you're doing this on somebody you know it isn't it
26:47so in essence it's an education process showing him how to dispose of a body it's certainly a
27:00consideration when you look at the time frame but it suggests that there was a bit of more
27:04pre-planned aspect to it perhaps yeah
27:10i think scott's fascination with extremely violent horror movies is highly suspicious
27:20has something that's happened in a horror film has that influenced the murder
27:28this interview is about finding out the truth about what's happened yeah where isn't it
27:34there isn't a full body
27:43uh did keep her in the house for quite some time and then as time went by i realized that
27:51she couldn't stay in the house um wasn't sure what to do so i did dismember
28:05to murder somebody and take somebody's life is bad enough but to then go on to dismember their body is
28:15particularly horrifying
28:19it was a gradual thing because i couldn't face doing something like that just all
28:26so what did you remove first i think her feet and how do you do that a knife and a saw and it was easier
28:36than i thought it was going to be
28:37i work in a butcher's so i see how they deal with things like that at work
28:48but i also watch quite a lot of horror films and stuff so it's probably coming from there as well
28:55it was it sort of you then discarded the feet straight away i just put her in a bag next to a net
29:05in the hole okay and how long was a net in the hole for
29:09quite a long time okay at least a few weeks yeah so you've chopped off the feet yeah and then i just
29:15want you to think about what did you next do um hands what was that like that was weirder because
29:26it was a hand so it was more it was like i was holding hands with a net so that felt
29:35and were you holding a hand in one while you're cutting in the other yeah okay
29:38okay so then was the hand then just left in your hand and then where were they where were the hands
29:45kept and with the feet with the feet not in the same bag but like in a bag with feet and what kind
29:52of bag was it just to carry a bag i think and then what did you do next
30:02it was probably only a couple of days after that that's when i decided to remove the head
30:09and that's the first time i'd looked at it in the face since it happened and
30:15i think i probably covered it her face up again and left her before i actually did it because i
30:24was probably sick actually
30:31and i went back two or three times to try and do it and couldn't do it
30:38and then obviously i did
30:48and that was really hard
30:53okay how many body parts were there when you were finished um
31:01um nine oh plus the torso it turned on together and you've done this over a period of a few weeks
31:13yeah uh and then just discarded the remains gradually um just in rubbish bins
31:25okay what rubbish bins public bins okay what where are these public bins um i think there was
31:40there was one in lechworth
31:46i can't remember the name of the street but near the little tescos one in
31:54little car park in lechworth
31:56and what about the head that's that went into one of the bins as well
32:05and it's kind of down a little concrete road rather than a talmac road yeah and just dropped it in
32:11oh god
32:15did you buy anything in these shops did you put some hands in the bin and then go buy a can of coke
32:23or did you go to little put some feet in the bin and buy a pint of milk we're just trying to work
32:26out is there any purchases that you've made that we could then identify i can't remember but possibly
32:34i want you to think really carefully because it's you know not everybody has done this
32:41within the last few months you know killed somebody dropped them up and put them in little bins okay
32:48so what i need you to think carefully about is on these significant days they're probably going to
32:52be quite significant in your life did you after putting them in the bin go into a shop and buy something
32:59i probably did okay because i was probably doing it as part of like my daily routine okay
33:14i can't believe he's choked around
33:21are you okay yeah yeah yeah just took us by surprise yeah no absolutely it's by surprise
33:25yeah take a moment to kind of regather yourself i think i think he just is so relieved to get
33:35yourself stressed yes he's been harboring it for six months isn't he yeah i still can't believe
33:40he's dotted everyone who parts around outside two markets
33:46officers continue their search for any human remains in the communal area of fairfield hall
33:52he always used to put his the rubbish out in black bags it's obvious it's not whatever it should be
34:00in there coming up to christmas it was constantly bags being put out yeah we have three big basements
34:09which could easily be accessed by residents
34:14it's absolutely crucial that we find annette it's important for the family so that they can
34:20bury her say their goodbyes and to come to terms with what's happened and grieve but unfortunately
34:29because of the time that has passed i do worry it might be hard to locate her body parts
34:49the key to his lockup
35:01oh unit 53
35:09all of the collections that have gone from liddles and tescos and the residential waste
35:14the the strong indication is that everything will have been incinerated i mean i think i think that
35:21does obviously change things um in terms of you know feasibility of search etc yeah yeah i think that
35:28probably negates anything so that we can do there unfortunately yeah what is of interest is a lockup so
35:36you're aware that we do know that scott has got a lockup um somewhere but ash has been doing some work on
35:41that today so i think with the help of the community team we've um unearthed uh some small businesses
35:47that are operating at lane buzzard so all the dpa requests have gone into those um today so hopefully
35:52this afternoon we'll bottom that inquiry out
36:06we're trying to find a net and we want to bring closure and find a net for her family okay so what
36:11i want you to really think carefully about is we've asked you where these body parts are and i know
36:17it's been a few months but this is quite a significant thing that you've done yeah you've mentioned these
36:22bins and was there any other areas think about the next the next time you left the house with a bag
36:29where where did you go oh uh down west drive in between fairfield and arsey
36:38just down an old road that people walk up and down there's an electric cupboard or something
36:48and i just put it behind there i bought the dog down there but it was again
36:55a thing that i would do every now and then because it's a nice walk for the dog
37:16i've never known a pathway that is so popular with dogs and dog walkers it's unbelievable
37:21that's been under a very long time yeah it's been under a year that but just
37:51random we've done everything we can with nothing else left in there to search
38:00darren i think i found the lock-up yeah see if we can um get access to it straight away
38:05but i'm not sure what else we need to get from the outside was that in letchworth yeah yeah okay yeah
38:11it kind of fits with the financial transactions and stuff and yeah thing yeah so i think it i'm
38:16pretty sure it is okay so these are the cctv stills which were taken from the storage unit in letchworth
38:25this is scott here oh okay this is the 28th of i've seen the times right 28th of february at 11 o'clock
38:34he's got some kind of trolley there with a couple of cases on and he's going to take it into is that
38:39his storage unit yeah okay yeah you can see he's got two cases on the trolley there okay last one is
38:45him wheeling out coming out with an empty trolley
38:59my thoughts are we'll do dna on the padlock yeah that will help us show that only he has been in and
39:14out okay so just to give you a bit of an update really we're at the um storage place and we've
39:36opened the locker i think we need to get that big tarpaulin out okay it is full of stuff um bits and
39:48pieces but there is also um we believe a large suitcase which is wrapped in tarpaulin
40:06and we'll see what we can see yeah um and um see what we can see yeah we might as well start
40:16unzipping in ash yeah there's a label there does that give anything away that like the brand or
40:21anything no it's just about important information it's rotten flesh there the smell is just unmistakable
40:27yeah yeah yeah yeah that's um okay we have a torso and they've had a little peek and it and
40:36said that she's in a another bag wrapped in there i just found it odd that he's kind of kept that
40:47part of the rest of it did he just think that that was too big to put in a bin or something maybe
40:54going from having no criminal footprint at all or no suggestion of violence to then murder somebody
41:08and dismember their body is is quite shocking for him to then try and cover it up to try and get away
41:16with what he did i still worry that we only know about this one and whether there are other offenses
41:24and we we really have to look at the circumstances to try and identify whether that is a possibility
41:30we were looking into annette's father's um death so in terms of the father scott kind of saw him the day
41:39before and then the following morning the carers found him deceased but there there is a note on
41:44the log to say that his head was in the the um the bed bars which um yeah not sure if that's you know
41:53i suppose the concern is is is that an indication of a struggle to prior to prior to his death
41:58before we end this interview tonight is there anything else that you want to tell us
42:16i can't think of anything else it's quite a significant thing isn't it
42:20killing somebody chopping them up it's quite significant so have you done that before
42:28you know why did you go to those lengths to do that to despise of the body yeah
42:42because i thought if there wasn't a body i'd i'd get away with it
42:48this is a deeply distressing crime and the fact that any human being can do this to another human
43:01being is sickening but scott was supposed to be her friend you know they had a really close relationship
43:08and i think the fact that he could do that to somebody that he was that close with just makes
43:14this all particularly harrowing so since we last spoke we've approached the cps and they have made
43:30a decision uh that you are going to be charged with murder okay yeah so i'm going to go through that now
43:35so this charge is on the 8th of november 2023 at hitchin in the county of harborshire
43:40murdered annette smith and that is contrary to common law do you have any reply to that no
43:51i hope that the family have got some answers and i hope that they're able to grieve
43:59this will have a profound effect on the community that annette lived in not just because of what
44:06happened to annette but because of the person that scott was and the fact that he was a friend to so many
44:36i'm very angry hurt and angry i hold my hands up to being sorry yeah like i really really genuinely
44:49thought that he was innocent genuinely i was so certain in inside that he wouldn't have done it and
44:59that scott could never be like that and now i just feel like you fooled me
45:03that's how i feel and i think a lot of people feel like that as well that they've been played for
45:08fools he made everyone believe that he was so lovely he built trust with like everyone in the community
45:25she looked at him like a son yeah we thought she was being cared for looked after protected
45:33i need to stop i'm sick of crying over this how can you do that to someone i don't know
45:47i trusted him so much he is a manipulative murderer and someone that knew what he was doing
45:56there is no forgiveness for what he's done and i hope he rots in prison
46:03if you dwell on the bad times we'll all suffer as a family so we raise a glass and think about the
46:09good times i'll always remember annette with a smile on her face and just enjoying herself
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