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O documentário conta a história da caçada dos Estados Unidos para capturar e punir Edward Snowden. Uma ofensiva diplomática sem precedentes que, após cinquenta dias, culimnou com Snowden saindo do aeroporto de Moscou como um homem livre. Depois de todo o aparato mobilizado, a Casa Branca teve de admitir a derrota.
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02:06Just three weeks earlier, Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old analyst for the National Security
02:15Agency in the USA, was waiting for journalists he thought he could trust.
02:21In his backpack, he had nearly a million top-secret NSA documents.
02:30The journalists were traveling across the world, from New York to a hotel in Hong Kong,
02:36for a secret meeting whose outcome they couldn't predict.
02:40105 North Avenue 52.
02:43Because I knew that what was waiting there was vitally important,
02:47but because we didn't know what really was going on, we thought there was even a chance.
02:52I mean, every step of the way kind of had all sorts of hazards.
02:55Thank you.
02:56The question mark that hung over us more than anything else was the fact that we had no idea
03:01who the person was that we were about to meet.
03:03So, we were really just kind of rushing into this huge unknown.
03:10The documents Snowden had with him were so sensitive, he could be in prison for decades for removing them.
03:17For all he knew, the U.S. authorities could have intercepted the communications of the journalists,
03:22and he was about to fall into a trap.
03:24I had crossed the Rubicon at that point, actually.
03:29You know, I think, uh...
03:31I don't think anybody can reach such a clear turning point in their life
03:35without thinking alia jakta est to them, to themself.
03:39You know, the die is cast.
03:40I had to expect that the most likely scenario was that I would be let out in handcuffs.
03:49How would we know that we weren't talking to some agent or somebody else?
03:52So, the quite ingenious method that he invented was to hold this Rubik's Cube,
03:58and that was the first thing I looked for.
04:00After getting top-secret documents from Snowden,
04:16the two Guardian journalists published their first stories.
04:20They did not name their source.
04:23Edward Snowden's identity remained a secret.
04:26At the time, I thought he was paranoid.
04:35Once we were in the room, he piled pillows up against the doorjamb,
04:40up high along the sides and along the bottom.
04:43So, if there was somebody passing in the hallway, just eavesdropping,
04:48it would make it more difficult for them.
04:53The stories began to appear,
04:54and then there's a period of time before he then self-identifies.
04:58In that gap there,
05:00it's my understanding that NSA had a very good idea
05:04who that was,
05:06what he had done,
05:08and then it's a simple step from there
05:10to begin to use all the tools available to the U.S. government
05:13as to where he might be.
05:14When he wanted to access his laptops,
05:28he had a big red hood,
05:30that he would put over his head and over his computer,
05:36so that when he was putting in these passwords,
05:39he was scared that somebody might be able to see him through the window,
05:45or maybe there's a hidden camera in the room.
05:47This is the greatest loss of secrets in our nation's history.
05:50And so, that certainly was energizing the other parts of the U.S. government
05:54to do everything they could to get him,
05:55and especially the materials, back before there was any more harm.
06:00How far was the U.S. willing to go,
06:03based on your professional experience in the intelligence community?
06:06For me, it was a question of,
06:07could the government feel every copy of this material
06:09could be stopped at a certain time?
06:11At a certain time,
06:12at a certain time,
06:13at a certain time,
06:14at a certain time,
06:15at a certain time,
06:16at a certain time,
06:17at a certain time.
06:18It's the greatest loss of secrets in our nation's history.
06:20And so,
06:21that certainly was energizing the other parts of the U.S. government
06:23to do everything they could to get him,
06:25and especially the materials,
06:27back before there was any more harm.
06:29stopped at a single point.
06:31And if that point had presented itself,
06:33I don't know what they would have done.
06:35That it was even possible that they might try to kill me.
06:40He was incredibly edgy.
06:42He was nervous.
06:43And I remember,
06:46there was a fire alarm went off,
06:48and he wondered,
06:50was this a tactic to get him out of his room?
06:54Always hovering over everything we were doing
06:56was the possibility that,
06:58at any given moment,
06:59there could be a knock on the door
07:00that would put an end to our interaction.
07:07At the time, it was extremely tense.
07:10Every day,
07:11myself and Glenn would see Snowden at the mirror.
07:14We didn't expect him to be there.
07:16We assumed that this guy,
07:18they must be hunting for him.
07:20What would you do if you were the director of the Central Intelligence Agency,
07:24the director of the National Security Agency?
07:26And you knew there was an individual out there
07:28who was about to expose evidence that you had committed serious crimes,
07:32and you had the resources available to stop this person,
07:36even if it meant using lethal force.
07:38What would you do?
07:39So I know for a fact that the US government was very angry at Mr Snowden.
07:44His safety and also his life was put at risk.
07:50But do you know that?
07:51I do know.
07:52The idea that he could somehow evade the US for very much longer seemed inconceivable to us.
08:03And every time we interviewed him, we thought,
08:04well, that's the last time we'll see him.
08:06We've got to make the most of this,
08:08because we won't get the chance to speak to him tomorrow.
08:10He won't be there.
08:11For many years, Edward Snowden worked at NSA headquarters near Washington, D.C.,
08:24just miles from where he grew up.
08:26I saw him in the shadow of the National Security Agency,
08:29literally in the area of Fort Meade.
08:31He was there.
08:33I picked him up.
08:34We went out to dinner.
08:36The Snowden family has a long history of military service,
08:40dating back to colonial times.
08:47Edward Snowden had an impressive career in America's intelligence community.
08:52By the age of 27, he'd gained access to its deepest secrets.
09:00He just seemed almost depressed,
09:03and I was very concerned about him.
09:05It was not the Ed that I knew.
09:10What Snowden couldn't tell his father during that dinner
09:14was that he'd discovered NSA documents that disturbed him.
09:19One of the key things that actually motivated me
09:22was the growing realization that we, in the United States government,
09:27were increasingly making decisions that departed from the rule of law.
09:32I assumed that maybe there was something going on between him and his long-term partner,
09:42Lindsay Mills, which really concerned me because I knew that he loved her very much.
09:47And I gave him a hug.
09:53You know, it was, you know, I love you, Dad. I love your son.
10:02What Snowden disclosed wasn't information.
10:05He disclosed how we collected information.
10:08In other words, he didn't reveal a bucket of water.
10:12He revealed the plumbing.
10:14He revealed how we gather, process, and distribute water.
10:19And therefore, that's going to have a really harmful effect on American intelligence
10:24for a very long time.
10:26Mr. President, thank you for those kind words and for the confidence that you and Ambassador Negroponte...
10:31No one played a more important role in creating the NSA we know today than General Michael Hayden.
10:38He was given the job by George W. Bush with a mandate to stop at nothing to stop terrorism.
10:45When I returned from Korea in 1999 to take the position at NSA...
10:48Michael Hayden, former director of the NSA and CIA, ran a program called Stellar Wind,
10:53where the communications of anyone in America could be collected en masse
10:58under the pretext of preventing terrorism.
11:02If you're asking me to delve into my deepest emotions,
11:05it was the arrogance of an individual who looked upon the activity of the National Security Agency
11:13and believed that his legal and ethical judgment trumped the judgment of his co-workers,
11:20his leadership, the American president, the American Congress, and the American court system.
11:26I thought to myself, what kind of man is this?
11:29How can someone justify the violation of the rights of an entire nation without even a law to lean on?
11:41How do we come back from a situation in which the most senior officials in a democracy
11:49are acting against the interests of the public in secret?
11:55Snowden would have to have believed his judgment trumped all of those
12:00in order to create the kind of moral righteousness that he claims.
12:05That's pretty arrogant.
12:11My name is Ed Snowden. I'm 29 years old.
12:16I work for Booz Allen Hamilton as an infrastructure analyst for NSA.
12:21He revealed massive NSA surveillance programs
12:26that collect phone records and internet data on a scale that many people never imagined.
12:30I don't, I don't welcome leaks.
12:33Journalists have been searching far and wide across the page.
12:35Where is he?
12:36He's almost certain that he is still here in Hong Kong,
12:39hid from the US intelligence services.
12:41This is the most serious hemorrhaging of legitimate American secrets in the history of my country.
12:55We've never seen anything like this before.
12:58For us in Hong Kong it was about three or four in the morning.
13:02So it was a couple of hours sleep and then we woke up and there was pandemonium.
13:06Where in the world is Edward Snowden?
13:09So my boss called me and she said something urgent happened Lavinia.
13:13Come to the office immediately.
13:16As soon as Edward Snowden revealed himself as the whistleblower.
13:20He set off a catch me if you can hunt by the US government
13:24and a where is he now guessing game for the media.
13:27The whole world now had a name and face to attach to the revelations.
13:31But so did the FBI.
13:34I'm sure they're going to be very busy for the next week.
13:40I've been...
13:41In the interview Snowden posted on the Guardian website,
13:44there was a clue as to where he might be staying.
13:47A view out of a hotel window.
13:50From this video we can tell there were two pylons of Qingyi Bridge.
13:55So from this view, this one is...
14:00The one on the left is bigger than the one on the right.
14:05So I went to Google Maps and used Google Earth
14:09trying to figure out from which perspective can Qingyi Bridge look like that.
14:19The consequences of if the media had known where Mr Snowden was
14:24from that time onward, it would have been a direct link for the NSA,
14:30the US government, any of the US government agencies
14:34to identify where my client was at the time.
14:38He was alarmed, he was upset,
14:40that any time the CIA could come crashing through that door.
14:46Everyone was chasing after this story.
14:49Everyone was so desperate.
14:51Everyone was desperately hoping to find Snowden.
14:57I want to get him caught and brought back for trial.
15:01I think the chase is on.
15:04To leak that amount of material, that sensitive,
15:08and then stand up in front of the whole world and say,
15:10this is who I am and here's what I did,
15:12is a virtual guarantee that you're going to end up in a cage
15:16for the next several decades, if not longer.
15:19You can't come forward against the world's most powerful intelligence agencies
15:24and be completely free from risk because they're such powerful adversaries.
15:29This was the biggest media story on the planet at the time.
15:33There's a likelihood that media would arrive there.
15:36He needs to leave the hotel immediately and just to leave everything behind.
15:43When I went to Hong Kong, I didn't intend to get out of this safely.
15:47You know, this wasn't about me. I didn't care what happened to me.
15:52My part of the job was finished.
15:54The journalists were probably going to be there in a matter of minutes.
15:57And they just occupied the lobby and they were hunting.
16:02Saying, where was Snowden? Where was Snowden?
16:04A bit like a bright siren, you know, declaring to everybody,
16:08oh, here's the man of interest.
16:2410,000 kilometers away in London, there was one thing the U.S. government might be happy about.
16:38WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was not involved in the Snowden revelations.
16:43I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your...
16:49Assange has been confined to the Ecuadorian embassy in London since June 2012.
16:55The U.S. government saw him as out of commission.
16:58Let's look at the situation for Edward Snowden.
17:0129-year-old young man, in a foreign jurisdiction that he had no experience with,
17:06the subject of the largest intelligence manhunt the world has ever seen.
17:09And the realities were, for Edward Snowden, he was going to be smashed.
17:14Our other news today, and the man who leaked details of a secret telephone
17:18and internet surveillance program in the U.S.A. has disappeared in Hong Kong.
17:24Snowden had fled the hotel and was now hiding in the apartment of local supporters.
17:30The whereabouts are now unknown of Edward Snowden, who was a contract worker for the CIA.
17:34He's not been seen since he checked out...
17:37And at that moment, he reached out and asked us for help.
17:42With WikiLeaks, Snowden hoped he had found a team that was a match for the NSA.
17:48He knew the U.S. was investigating WikiLeaks for espionage and terrorism.
17:52Years of surveillance had left WikiLeaks no option but to protect their communications through encryption,
17:58something Snowden considered vital.
18:00Assange and his colleagues only agreed to appear in this film on condition
18:06WikiLeaks lawyers be permitted to vet their interviews.
18:10Sarah Harrison, a journalist at WikiLeaks, was busy running an election campaign in Australia
18:16when she got a call from London.
18:17I spoke to people from work and they said,
18:21have you seen this thing about Snowden?
18:23And I was like, what's wrong with the mountain in Wales?
18:26And then they're like, look online, look online.
18:29So I looked and yeah, he'd gone public at that stage.
18:33A video had gone out on The Guardian.
18:36At that moment when I first heard his name, I didn't for a moment imagine I would be spending four months with him.
18:42Although to the outside world it looked like a hurricane with statements from the White House and stories appearing in the newspaper
18:53and a lot of interest about what he was doing in Hong Kong,
18:56I knew that actually this was the calm moment.
19:00And the real storm was just about to come.
19:04And he would be sucked into this vortex within two weeks of imprisonment, arrest.
19:09I'd seen Chelsea Manning go through a similar experience.
19:13After three years of solitary confinement without trial,
19:17the US military's most famous whistleblower, Private First Class Bradley Manning finally...
19:22Until Snowden, Chelsea Manning's leak of American government documents
19:26had been the biggest loss of secrets in American history.
19:29WikiLeaks had published the documents but had to stand by and watch
19:32as Manning was caught and held in conditions characterized by the UN as cruel, inhuman and degrading.
19:41The US tried very hard to make Chelsea Manning a general deterrent in its incredibly abusive treatment of him,
19:48psychological torture and simply for communicating to the media.
19:52I knew about Chelsea Manning, you know, going into it.
19:56There was never any question about how that case was going to be settled.
20:00And you were willing to put yourself in the same position?
20:03That's tough to vocalize.
20:17Um...
20:18Three days after Snowden went underground, Sarah Harrison landed in Hong Kong.
20:34She took charge of what was to become Operation Asylum.
20:38She mentioned that there was a person by the name of Edward Snowden who had checked in and out,
20:44but it's still not clear whether...
20:49What was particularly extraordinary, I think, was while all of these news organizations around the world,
20:55all of these publishers were trying to get a piece of the story,
20:59there was only one publisher that actually said,
21:02we want to help the source, we want to make sure he's okay,
21:05we want to make sure that no matter what happens, you know, he has somebody on his side.
21:10And that was WikiLeaks.
21:12If there was one thing I could change, um,
21:16it would have been whether we could have done more for Snowden.
21:20I did have a discussion with the editor, Alan Rusbridger,
21:25and the US editor, Jeanine Gibson, about what we could do for Snowden,
21:30whether we should be paying his hotel bills and whether we should be getting him legal advice.
21:35I wish we'd thought it through and maybe if we had had more time we could have come up with something.
21:45You know, it was the US government versus WikiLeaks,
21:49and not just in the grand jury court, but right there on the ground in Hong Kong.
21:52Protect Snowden!
21:55Snowden blew the whistle on American efforts to spy on innocent citizens.
22:00Today we all blow the whistle!
22:02Protect Snowden!
22:04Protect Snowden!
22:06Please afford privacy of Internet!
22:09The US government has filed criminal charges against Edward Snowden.
22:12I think it was probably on my birthday, when the presence I got from the government was that they unsealed an indictment against me.
22:22Edward Snowden has been charged with espionage, theft and conversion of government property.
22:27And what was extraordinary about the indictment was the fact that they included espionage charges.
22:34Now, they knew that I wasn't working for any foreign government, that was clear from the beginning.
22:39They knew that I was working with journalists, and that the recipient of the information was the public at large.
22:45Washington now wants help from Hong Kong officials because Snowden's been hiding in the Chinese territory since unleashing the revelations about the National Security Agency.
22:58The charge of espionage increased the pressure on the Hong Kong authorities to act, and made Snowden's position even more dangerous.
23:07It meant that if Snowden was caught, he could face the death penalty back home in the US.
23:15Snowden took the risk of leaving his hideout and met his lawyer who warned him.
23:20Sooner or later, Hong Kong would hand him over to the US, where he could expect the same treatment as Private Manning.
23:28In terms of Private Manning's situation, clearly he had been subjected to cruel and inhuman degrading treatment or punishment.
23:37As such, this raised grave concerns about what would happen to Mr. Snowden if he was returned to the United States.
23:51Snowden could not be sure if the Hong Kong authorities would do as the US was demanding and arrest him right away.
23:58Hong Kong citizens were on the streets calling him a hero, but the Hong Kong authorities were in an unpredictable situation.
24:07Snowden knew there was always the possibility the central government in Beijing would intervene and sacrifice him in a deal with the US.
24:15The things that were told to us was that the feeling within the government was that they just wanted it, the Hong Kong government was that they just wanted it gone.
24:24He was a hot potato, they just didn't want to have to deal with it.
24:27They were either going to upset the people of Hong Kong or they were going to upset Beijing and it was just too problematic.
24:32The Hong Kong government decided to play for time. Rather than arrest Snowden, they decided to wait for the proper paperwork to arrive.
24:43But Snowden was still in danger.
24:46With the nature of the disclosures he made, there was a real and immediate risk that he could be arrested in Hong Kong.
24:55One of the reasons Snowden was so vulnerable was that a White House task force was working the phones and putting pressure on decision makers in Hong Kong.
25:11Since we learned that Mr. Snowden was in Hong Kong, US authorities have been in continual contact with their Hong Kong counterparts at the working and senior levels.
25:18The US was certain if the Hong Kong government decided to arrest Snowden, they would not have problems locating him.
25:38Look, the Chinese have a wonderful intelligence service.
25:41I would lose all respect for my Chinese colleagues if they did not have very good knowledge as to what was going on.
25:52Although our analysis was that it would face serious consequences and should immediately leave Hong Kong, he was reluctant to do that until it seemed like there was no other choice.
26:05Because he wanted to explore different options and so on, and this was driving us mad.
26:08Well Helix had been working out various options of where he would be safe, where he could go, different people's opinions around the world.
26:17But I mean it was his decision, it's his life.
26:25The border is open, we've got to go.
26:28Now's the chance, the border is open, could close, you know, at any time.
26:32Then something happened that narrowed the options for Snowden.
26:47The request for his extradition arrived from the United States on a Friday night.
26:52Would the Hong Kong Justice Ministry wait until Monday to issue a warrant?
26:57Who could know?
26:58They would make a decision and then they would act upon that decision.
27:01We needed to move.
27:03Time, the clock was ticking.
27:06Very definitely then.
27:08Mr Snowden was in a difficult position, where he could be arrested at any time.
27:13What Edward was concerned about is knowing the exact status of the border.
27:21So he agreed that he should leave, but as soon as he went to passport control, maybe he would be arrested.
27:29So he was very reluctant to actually leave because that would cut short his last time, his last hours of freedom.
27:35Attorney General Eric Holder placed a phone call stressing the importance of the matter and urging Hong Kong to honor our request for Snowden's arrest.
27:46It was the end.
27:47He couldn't wait to continue to assess the situation.
27:50He had to make a decision.
27:51That was the moment where it all came together or it didn't.
28:08Either our plan worked, our negotiations had worked and we would get on that flight or it wouldn't.
28:17We, over the weekend, the United States has been in touch via diplomatic and law enforcement channels with a number of countries which Mr Snowden might transit or that could serve as final destinations.
28:29This was the largest intelligence manhunt the world has ever seen.
28:32So the US was throwing everything, all its resources at this thing.
28:36So we needed some way of splitting those resources because we didn't want them all focused on his flight out.
28:41Well, he bought a ticket to India as cover, was booked using his credit card for two days after the actual asylum flight.
28:59In all, WikiLeaks bought more than a dozen tickets in Snowden's name on flights leaving Hong Kong.
29:08They hoped the US wouldn't figure out which flight he and Harrison were aiming for.
29:13I was worried about missing the flight. We were running late, basically, due to the fact that I had been printing all of our airline tickets.
29:23And there was an issue with the printer and just sort of these stupid things.
29:28We're advising these governments that Mr Snowden is wanted on serious felony charges. And as such, he should not be allowed to proceed in any further international travel.
29:39I spoke to Edward the day before and I told him that the highest risk is in the airport.
29:45He was getting very nervous. And his lawyer kept calling.
29:49I think he worried too that the whole thing would collapse.
29:57I don't think the US would assassinate him in the airport. I don't think that would happen.
30:02But that they might kind of make a fuss and lean on airport authorities to hold him and detain him.
30:08And then the State Department could bring all its assets to bear.
30:13There have been repeated engagements by the US Department of State and US Consulate General in Hong Kong.
30:17There have been repeated engagements by the FBI with their law enforcement counterpart.
30:34You could also be racing to getting captured, right? I mean, you're also...
30:40Yeah, running towards them. Yeah.
30:43Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm quite sure that that airport was being watched. So...
30:52Ultimately, as I walked up to the checkpoint counter, the only thing I was thinking is that I should remember to smile.
31:02The guy took our passports, which is obviously the normal thing to do. So mine was sort of fine and then Snowden's one sort of took a while and again reaching for the phone and a little bit confused and the computer made a funny sound.
31:25So, yeah, so again, I'm not quite sure what was going on there, but I was getting very nervous. His lawyer did sort of start stepping forward to sort of see what was going on.
31:36On June 17th, Hong Kong authorities acknowledged receipt of our request. Despite repeated inquiries, Hong Kong authorities did not respond with any request for additional documents or information, stating only that the matter was under review and refusing to elaborate.
31:54What was under review was that there was a mistake in the American paperwork. In the rush to prevent him from leaving Hong Kong, the State Department got Edward Snowden's middle name wrong. It is not Edward James Snowden. It is Edward Joseph Snowden.
32:12Our people are meticulous in processing legal documents. They had to double check the spelling, make sure that they are catching the right person sought by the U.S. authorities. I don't think our authorities deliberately held up the arrest, but we need to take maybe a few days.
32:35But a few days was not good enough for the U.S., you know. And apparently Snowden made use of the few days available to work out his escape.
32:48As it happened, we were rushing our paperwork forward as Snowden's trying to leave Hong Kong to fly on to Russia. We made it easier for the Chinese and the people in Hong Kong to make the decision they made because of the delay.
33:05Because, you know, we've now done everything, you know, you've checked in, you've got through security, you've done the bag check, the passport check, you know, you boarded onto the plane. And then I was like, you're still not OK.
33:15I knew the schedule of the flight was meant to leave. And I was just watching the Hong Kong airport register to see has the flight left, has the flight left, has the flight left. And it was late. It was 20 minutes late. So I was quite concerned.
33:29Well, then the other thing that made me very nervous was when we were waiting to take off, we came from the gate and then we go up a bit. And then we just stop. And we're just waiting and we're waiting and we're waiting.
33:43And straight to our breaking news for you this hour. Chinese sources have alleged that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden is en route to Moscow from Hong Kong. If so, the whistleblower would have departed hours after Washington threatened the Chinese city-state with repercussions if it didn't arrest him.
34:08Hong Kong authorities requested additional information concerning the U.S. charges and evidence. The U.S. had been in communication with Hong Kong and we were in the process of responding when we learned that Hong Kong had allowed the fugitive to leave.
34:23What is clear is that at the time he left, the State Department did not cancel his passport. Maybe he should have canceled. They should have canceled his passport. They canceled his passport after his departure. And so when he left Hong Kong, he was holding a valid U.S. passport.
34:44It is very clear to me that the Hong Kong authorities knew the United States wanted to extradite Snowden from Hong Kong to the United States when Snowden is trying to leave the country. And in some made up pretext, misspelling of his middle name or something in the documents that we gave to the Hong Kong police, they allowed him to leave and to fly on to Russia.
35:06Is the administration embarrassed now that you can't track him down, that he's this cat and mouse game that's going on for all the world to see?
35:13I think I've been very clear about the actions we've taken. We have known where he is and believe we know where he is now. And there are ongoing conversations about that.
35:26We both sort of just sat there. Like, we really didn't say much until that moment where actually we were out of the airspace. And there was a visible sigh. And then that's when we first sort of had any real conversation.
35:44And what did he ask you? What did he ask you?
35:48Pretty much his first question was, why did you do this? Why did you risk everything just to help me?
36:00I was sort of saying, you were wanting help or something. And he said, yeah, I was wanting help and advice. I didn't think that WikiLeaks would send like a ninja in to get me out, which was funny enough.
36:14But then about two minutes later, like a fly buzzes past. And I just have never done it before in my life. And I'll probably never do it again. But I just went, oh, that's annoying. And literally plucked it out of the air. He was like, you really are a ninja.
36:25Sarah is probably the most incredibly brave woman I know. She's somebody who is there through the hardest times in a period of incredible risk. And she put her life on the line for somebody who is a complete stranger to her.
36:46There's a lot of information floating around here. Organize it all for us. Tell us what's exactly going on.
36:51We're led to believe that Edward Snowden has safely left Hong Kong and is currently in the sky somewhere over the Russian city of Omsk in an A330. He's due to arrive here. We are led to believe at Sheremetova Airport later on Sunday.
37:05That's all rumour and hearsay at the moment. But it's thought that his final destination will not be Moscow.
37:12That moment there was a race for the interpretation of what had happened. So had he left as a fugitive, busted through the Hong Kong airport, whatever, so you had a fugitive on an aeroplane, that was one possible spin that we would see from the media machine.
37:34And it was very important to counter that spin because his whole flight path would have been closed down because countries and airlines would go, oh, we can't accept this fugitive on our flight.
37:44So we put out as soon as he was in safe airspace that no, he had left Hong Kong, that he had left Hong Kong legally, that he was accompanied by legal advisers, so this flight path wouldn't be closed down.
38:04As you can see on this map, the flight that has reportedly has Snowden aboard has almost reached its destination here in Moscow, scheduled to land in the Russian capital within minutes.
38:21The plane believed to be carrying Edward Snowden touching down in Moscow. He's on the run, but where will he end up?
38:28He's not thought to have permission to stay. The expectation is that tomorrow he'll get on a plane to Latin America. The exact route he'll take is unclear.
38:41Breaking news this hour. WikiLeaks claims one of its legal advisers accompanying Snowden after the whistleblowing organization secured papers, a safe exit, and asylum, quote, in an unnamed democratic state.
38:53Even if he does find a country willing to offer him asylum, there's no guarantee he'll actually arrive at his desired destination.
39:00You know, the first woman, she's just some normal check-in woman, you know? She's like, your passport doesn't work. Sorry, I can't issue your boarding pass.
39:10We managed to get him out of Hong Kong, but when he landed in the Moscow airport, the American government had cancelled his passport.
39:23And now they, now the Americans make a lot of pressure on other countries to stop him.
39:34You know, it was actually really surprising to me to discover that the U.S. cancelled my passport. They tried to freeze me in place.
39:42When I was in jurisdictions which wouldn't be considered particularly friendly to the United States government, that always puzzled me.
39:51Cancelling Snowden's passport was the first step in an FBI Plan B. Now, they would just need to pick him up.
39:59In a small airfield in Manassas, Virginia, far from prying eyes, a former CIA rendition plane prepared for takeoff.
40:11Its mission, to transport a fugitive back to the United States.
40:16But at Moscow airport, Snowden's escape to Cuba still seemed possible. The gate had not yet closed.
40:33Julian Assange had asked a diplomat from the Ecuadorian embassy in London to accompany Snowden on the flight and protect him en route to secure asylum.
40:43The diplomat just needed to find Snowden at the gate, and explained that he now enjoyed diplomatic protection from Ecuador.
40:54The Ecuadorian ambassador visited the Cheremetigo airport on Sunday.
40:59But at Terminal F, the presence of hundreds of media people had created pandemonium.
41:04The diplomat couldn't find Snowden.
41:11Julian Assange began to play switchboard.
41:15He tried to bring Snowden and Sarah Harrison together with the diplomat, without alerting the press.
41:20Go to the information desk or help desk and ask them to put out an announcement asking that Sarah Harrison come to see you.
41:35Though they finally managed to meet, the diplomat could not help Edward Snowden.
41:40Without a valid passport, he was not allowed to board the plane.
41:46The flight to Cuba left without him.
41:49Is that a positive sign, as far as the U.S. government is concerned, that Mr. Snowden did not get on, has not gotten on any airplane?
42:10We have communicated to the Russians, our hope that they will look at all options available to them to expel Mr. Snowden back to the United States.
42:27Just a few hours after Edward Snowden landed in Moscow, the U.S. prisoner transportation plane landed in Copenhagen, waiting on standby.
42:36Was its mission to transport Edward Snowden back to America?
42:42Almost as soon as he arrived in Moscow, the FBI contacted me.
42:48I chose to speak to them for four hours.
42:52As a matter of fact, one of the agents was starting to dose.
42:55I, you know, nothing, you know, I shared everything I possibly could.
43:02I wanted to help.
43:03Back in Terminal F, the Russian authorities offered Snowden a secret deal.
43:11He could leave the airport right away on one condition.
43:15That he agreed to work with the FSB, the Russian Intelligence Service.
43:20They asked once, they had approached.
43:23I mean, it's kind of unimaginable to think that they wouldn't.
43:26He didn't give anything to the Russians at all.
43:29And he certainly didn't cooperate with them or give them anything in any way whatsoever.
43:35How do you know?
43:37I was with him the whole time.
43:38So, I would stake my entire life on the fact that he did not give anything to anybody.
43:44Russian President Vladimir Putin refused Snowden entry into Russia.
43:54He and Harrison would have to fend for themselves in the airport's transit zone.
44:00And then we were in this room for a month.
44:10We just didn't have a window.
44:13Or a shower.
44:14These were representatives from the FBI, from the D.C. area, who I suspect were working very closely at that point with the State Department.
44:31And, you know, they just wanted to talk and they said, would you be interested in, would you consider traveling to Moscow, flying to Moscow to meet with your son?
44:45And I said, absolutely.
44:53They had mentioned at one point, when we were talking about the details, and I'm not going to get too far into specifics.
44:59They had mentioned to me that, well, you understand that once we get there, we're going to need to check your son out to make sure he's okay medically.
45:09And I laughed. I said, you've got to be kidding.
45:12It concerns me to hear the things that I've heard about the activities of the FBI at that time.
45:18Whether it was their plan to get my father onto an airplane at the Moscow airport and then use him to sort of lure me onto the plane in this wacky strategy.
45:28And then sort of slam shut the door of the airplane and, you know, fly back to D.C.
45:39New revelations based on Snowden's documents were appearing every day.
45:45Throughout Western Europe, there was popular support for Edward Snowden, and the drama of his flight was on the nightly news.
45:51I guess if you know the answer to this one, you will be the subject of...
45:55For many in Europe, Snowden deserved protection, not a prison cell.
46:02Hopeful that he could harness public opinion and get out of Russia, Snowden filed asylum applications to Western European democracies.
46:1121 of them.
46:14The State Department was making the phones ring in every government office, in every European government agency.
46:22Where they had a phone number, you know, anywhere they had a business card that was sitting in a Rolodex, that person got a call.
46:28And they said, this man will not receive asylum in Europe.
46:31But you would not deny that there have been conversations and discussions about Mr. Snowden, his whereabouts, and the consequences of hosting him, correct?
46:41Well, no, no, Matt, I don't think we've at all denied that we've been in contact through a range of diplomatic channels.
46:46I think Poland was the first to deny, followed by France.
46:51Italy said they weren't likely to respond, or simply didn't respond.
46:56The vast majority of European governments did something which I think was particularly illustrative.
47:01Which is, they took no position at all.
47:04All right, but you would just object to the characterization that it's bullying or arm-twisting.
47:09That is correct, yes?
47:11I think that's clear.
47:16A glimmer of hope after living in limbo for weeks, Venezuela and Bolivia offered the NSA leaker asylum after European countries rejected his official request.
47:38Venezuela came out very strongly.
47:41We couldn't actually get there because all the Western countries were saying no and not offering any help.
47:44There was no possibility for safe passage or to, like, physically get to Latin America safely.
47:53There were several plans to get him out of Moscow.
47:56We looked at private jets, we looked at presidential jets.
47:59We had a tip-off inside the US administration that they would be fairly confident about taking down a private jet.
48:07They'd be a little bit less confident in relation to commercial airliners.
48:11And they were not very confident at all in relation to a presidential jet.
48:16With Snowden still stuck in the transit zone, he watched on Russian TV as one of the few presidents of the world prepared to offer him asylum landed in Moscow.
48:27President Evo Morales of Bolivia had arrived for an international summit of gas exporting countries.
48:37Just before leaving Moscow, Evo Morales left no doubt that his country would welcome Snowden.
48:44They have the right to recover his investment and also the right to his policies.
48:47And on the level of Bolivia, and you personally, what is what Snowden thinks?
48:50If he asked him, would you give him him?
48:53Yes, because not.
48:55Given what President Morales had said, there was a strong suspicion within my government that there was at least a possibility that Morales would be happy to take Snowden with him.
49:15When President Morales left for the airport, the FBI thought Snowden might be with him.
49:20They believe Snowden was escaping on the presidential jet.
49:34According to the Vienna Convention, a presidential plane enjoys a special diplomatic status.
49:42It's like a flying piece of territory from the home country.
49:45Bolivian officials said France and Portugal wouldn't let the Bolivian president's plane land and refuel on their territories because of rumors that Snowden could have been on board that plane.
50:00Government to government, express your concern, express your belief why you think this man may be on that plane.
50:11Express that to a friend, how serious you view the situation, and then you ask a friend to take a course of action, and apparently they did.
50:18R-1968 Tower, 1187.
50:20Well, they said that you don't have permission to enter a French airspace, and we tell the control, and this is the diplomatic clearance number.
50:30And they said, well, yeah, that one was cancelled.
50:32My government went to other European governments, and because of their control over airspace, forced the president's plane to land.
50:42Now, again, this is absolutely unprecedented.
50:57I was in my room. I was looking at my laptop, and I was reading the news, and at first I didn't believe it.
51:03His jet was ultimately forced to land and underwent a search over rumors whistleblower Edward Snowden was aboard.
51:13I couldn't believe that the United States government would go so far as to ground the diplomatic jet carrying a head of state to search it for somebody like me.
51:28Latin America united with their condemnation. Social media erupted with claims the U.S. was behind the move and Europe a puppet.
51:40And that was something that was so physical and so obvious. It was like the tide going out on the power relations between Western Europe and the United States.
51:50You could see the underlying power structure, the rocks on this shore that represented the true nature of the relationship, because you could see that actually Western Europe wasn't going into battle for him at all.
52:01In fact, Western Europe was playing on the other side.
52:05On the other side.
52:31O que você acha que alguém poderia imaginar desinformação?
53:01Eu devo admitir que eu ainda não considero isso antes, mas é sempre uma possibilidade, claro.
53:10Eu não sabia que essa divergência ia acabar com um resultado tão extraordinário.
53:16O Morales também ajudou os russos, dando ele assiduos?
53:23E sim, e isso reforçou a imagem de Snowden como a vítima.
53:29Snowden as The Pursuid?
53:31Sim.
53:32Então, se você estava se sentindo no outro lado da frente,
53:38para trap os americanos, seria uma coisa mais rápida?
53:43Bem, eu ainda não pensei até que você fez isso, mas é incrível.
53:48Sim.
53:49Sim.
53:50Sim.
53:51Sim.
53:52Sim.
53:53Sim.
53:54Sim.
53:55Sim.
53:56Sim.
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54:02Sim.
54:03Sim.
54:04Sim.
54:05Sim.
54:06Sim.
54:07Sim, sim.
54:09Sim.
54:10Sim.
54:12Sim.
54:13Sure, uma vez eu estou dizendo que eles tinham tocado um jeito de homeruro.
54:15É uma Teen Wolf Wand
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56:31Anybody who's ever embarrassed a great power is never going to be safe.
56:35I mean as long as people feel a sense of retaliation
56:38as long as people feel like they have to send messages and set examples not to mess with
56:43dissenters are going to be at risk to be leaving the airport under those circumstances to have seen
56:52everything that transpired in those two months and then just to be struck with what was a completely
57:00perfect warm and bright day you know a seasonable day normal life outside you know you hear
57:06the birds you know simple things like that insects traffic it's like stepping into a larger world
57:16i want to get him caught and brought back for trial
57:46so
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