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Woke But Broke | DISC 5: Restoration | 411 Podcast🍾Reading Between The Wines (Episode 14)

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Released 2004 | Free Yourself

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411 Podcast🍾Reading Between The Wines
DISC 5: Restoration
Track 14: Woke But Broke
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00:03:30Welcome, welcome, welcome on in. Welcome to the 411 podcast. Tonight, we are speaking
00:03:54on woke, but broke this five restoration, the 411 podcast reading between the lines.
00:04:02This is episode 14 and it is May 15th. But before we go ahead and get started, I want
00:04:10to say a very special thank you to my executive producer. I thank God for giving me another
00:04:16opportunity to come out here and give you the 411 podcast. I thank each and every one
00:04:22of you out there. Thank you so much for liking, commenting, sharing, stopping by, whatever
00:04:29you do to support the 411 podcast, reading between the lines. I want to say thank you
00:04:33so much. And if you can please do me a favor, please like comment, share, subscribe, tag,
00:04:41do whatever you need to do to help support in any way that you feel necessary. I want
00:04:46to say thank you so much. Also, before we go ahead and move on, I want to say that this
00:04:54feels so much like home and that's because it is home.
00:04:58This is where it started in 2020. And I do a lot of speaking engagements. I have a lot
00:05:05of things going on outside of the 411 podcast, but it's nothing like coming back home to
00:05:11where it originally started. Coming back home without any restrictions, rules, and the other
00:05:18things that come with the territory. So I made a vow to make sure that we continue this
00:05:25process since we started it in 2020. And we're here, we're home. Let's relax. Let's do what
00:05:31we know how to do best. And I believe that I saw SOS out there. If you are listening,
00:05:37there is a special link. So there's a special link and I will make sure that I go ahead
00:05:44and text you that link now if I can. And I don't know if I can, but there is a special
00:05:52link out there. Probably can't because I'm in another screen now and we're rolling. But
00:05:58if you're getting this message and you're out there, there is a link. If you can check
00:06:03your email and you should be able to click on that link and come right in on a show here.
00:06:10For those of you, if you are interested in sitting in and want to be a reoccurring guest
00:06:16on a show, you can email me at info at laryngaines.com. And I can give you some
00:06:22more information that is info at laryngaines.com. I am accepting new students to come in. And as
00:06:30we dissect every night, I can use some support and I'd like to support you as well, especially
00:06:36on this debt-free journey on this debt-free learning. And phone number is 609-210-98.
00:06:44Again, that number is 609-210-98. However you reach out to me, whether it's a DM,
00:06:51text message, email, please feel free to reach out and I can get you some more information.
00:06:57So we're here. Track 14, Woke But Broke. But before we get into that, I want to speak
00:07:04about last night reading between the lines. I had another great session with
00:07:09special guests, author Birdman313. And I sampled Canyon Road Moscato with some good wine. I poured
00:07:18me about three glasses, not all the way to the brim, but you know, I definitely sampled enough.
00:07:26And I felt pretty good last night and we read from the book, The Secret.
00:07:33And I don't know this author. I know I should know her name properly. I pronounce it.
00:07:38I think it's Rhonda. Well, I know it's Rhonda. That's her first name, but the last name
00:07:43kind of stumbles sometimes, but I believe it's Rhonda Brine. Anyone out there, if I said it,
00:07:50you can let me know. But we all heard the famous book, The Secret, but it was very mystical.
00:07:56I asked Birdman13 to pick a specific number and he picked 55. And when he picked 55,
00:08:04we opened up to the page and it was about action. It was about taking action. And when we helped
00:08:11Ms. Crystal, I felt that that was something that she can get. She was a bartender.
00:08:19She was pouring herself drinks, numbing her pain to avoid the situations that she was dealing with
00:08:26on hand, which was debt, divorce. And we came to the conclusion that there needed to be some action.
00:08:33And Birdman spoke up about the first step is taking action. And I say taking responsibility
00:08:41for your life and removing yourself away from something that is going to tempt you.
00:08:45So if you have a drinking problem, if you have a shopping problem, whatever the case may be,
00:08:51you probably want to go ahead and limit those. So in Crystal's case,
00:08:56if you have a drinking problem, it's probably not wise that you work at a bar.
00:09:02If you have a shopping problem, it's probably not wise that you work at a clothing store,
00:09:08if you know that that's what you like to buy and you like to wear and you like to do.
00:09:11So taking responsibility, taking action and cleaning up your environment.
00:09:16So for my example, I had a little bit of an attitude back in the day. That's because I
00:09:21didn't love myself and I didn't know who I was. But the first thing that I did was got up and
00:09:26take responsibility for myself and remove myself around ignorant people that might trigger me to
00:09:31want to cuss people out and start going upside their head. So you know what? Since I can't
00:09:36control you, the first person I can control and the only person that I control is myself.
00:09:41So how about I remove myself from these negative situations and these comments
00:09:46and these things that might trigger the Tasmanian devil in me. So that's what I did. And I got up
00:09:53and I took responsibility. So we gave Crystal a few suggestions last night of her starting by
00:10:00cleaning up your environment.
00:10:04So now tonight we're going to do the same thing. We're here to help. We're here to grow. We're here
00:10:07to learn. So stick around and you'll figure out what our scenario tonight is. But the title of
00:10:15tonight's show is Woke But Broke. So let's get right on into the song of the day. And
00:10:22we have Miss Fantasia song of the day. Truth is released in 2004 off of her album,
00:10:29Free Yourself. So when we speak about truth is this song Fantasia is basically facing her truth.
00:10:40She knows what the truth is in a relationship. She loves the person, says that she probably
00:10:48shouldn't have let him go. And she knows what the truth is.
00:10:54So now the question I have to ask you is what is your truth?
00:10:58What truths are you not facing in your life?
00:11:04How easy is it for you to just say that I'm okay? But in reality, you know that you're not 100%.
00:11:11We all aren't 100%. We can strive for it. But if you know that you're at like 50,
00:11:17maybe you wake up and you're at 40% and someone asks you how you're doing and you say that you're
00:11:21just okay. Is that really facing the truth? How easy is it for you to cover up? I've done this
00:11:31in the past, cover up any emotional baggage, any trauma, any situations that you are dealing with,
00:11:39with people, places and material things. How easy is it for you to cover things up,
00:11:46surrounding yourself by people? Sometimes those people could care less about you.
00:11:51Sometimes those people are plotting your downfall. Sometimes those people say one
00:11:55thing and then as soon as you're back, as soon as you turn your back, they say another.
00:11:59Sometimes these people, they're just waiting for the setup for them to do the 180 on you.
00:12:06What about going to places, putting yourself in environments that you know you have no business
00:12:11being in just to try to make yourself feel better. Just try to get along with the get along,
00:12:18get in where you can fit in. And of course, buying material things. We speak about that
00:12:26heavily on this show here tonight because that's how a lot of us get ourselves into situation.
00:12:32That's how a lot of us put ourselves into some of these toxic debt situations because we
00:12:39focus on the material. We focus on worldly possessions. So how easy is it for you to
00:12:44cover up with people, places and material things that are looking yourself in the mirror,
00:12:49facing the truth. Remember, everything starts with self. Maybe we might need to look in that mirror.
00:12:58Maybe we might need to tell ourselves the truth. So are you facing your truth? Do you know what
00:13:05the truth is when it comes to you? Because only you know what the truth is when it comes to you.
00:13:12You're going to know that more than anybody else does because everything starts with self and
00:13:16everything starts with you. So are you facing the truth or are you continuously covering things up
00:13:25with people, places, material things?
00:13:29Track 14, Woke But Broke. And I don't know if my special guest is out there tonight,
00:13:38but there is a link. If you're listening, check your email, follow that link. And I want to say
00:13:46thank you to everybody who is joining. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. If you can please
00:13:50like, comment, share, subscribe, tag a friend, invite more people in. I want to give a very
00:13:54special shout out to the DLive family. Y'all love the single mom struggle episode. Thank you so much
00:14:01for showing love on DLive. And again, before we get started here tonight, I am on Facebook,
00:14:08Instagram, TikTok, X, YouTube, DLive, Twitch, Daily Motion. The audio version is available
00:14:18on multiple different platforms. I can't even name them. I'm so thankful for them all.
00:14:24I can name a few, but I can't name them all. The ones that come to mind, I Heart Radio,
00:14:29Deezer, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audacity, Podcast. Thank you so much for all the love and support
00:14:43wherever you stream, wherever you view the show, listen to the show. Thank you so much.
00:14:49Please share it with friends, family. All right. So we're going to get into tonight's
00:14:56scenario. We're heading on over to St. Louis, Missouri.
00:15:03I believe my special guest has joined. Thank you so much. I see you out there. So happy to have you
00:15:08on. How are you doing? You look terrible. You can turn your camera off too. You don't
00:15:20have to put your camera on. There should be a button to turn it off. I'll let you get
00:15:29situated with that because I can see it behind the scenes.
00:15:37So my special guest, Ms. SOS, is getting her camera together. We're going to try her one more
00:15:44time and see. All right. All right. You should be set now. All right. Here we go. Here we go.
00:15:59Good. Hello.
00:16:02Thanks. You can hear me?
00:16:04I can. I can hear you so well.
00:16:06It's been crazy. I've been ready all day to do this. And then the moment that I feel like, okay,
00:16:16I got it. And it's like, I didn't have it. So I'm like, nevermind.
00:16:22But guess what? Most important.
00:16:24I'm here now.
00:16:25Exactly. Exactly. So we are here.
00:16:28Oh my goodness.
00:16:30Welcome to Coaching Sessions Thursday.
00:16:36So glad to have you in. And let's get right on into tonight's scenario.
00:16:42So we are helping Jaden, Mr. Jaden Phillips. Oops. I wasn't supposed to say the last name. I'm
00:16:50sorry. But it's all good. We're here to help Mr. Jaden, St. Louis, Missouri. I'm sorry. I meant
00:17:04Branson, Missouri. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It's St. Louis, Missouri, Jaden. So Jaden is a
00:17:12life coach and a freelance speaker. And Jaden teaches about generational curses, legacy,
00:17:19and financial freedom. But he's three months behind on rent. He's more focused on his brand
00:17:26than his budget. And while his message is powerful, his personal finances are a mess.
00:17:33So I'll read that again. Jaden, who is a life coach and a freelance speaker,
00:17:42teaches about generational curses, legacy, and financial freedom. But he's three months behind
00:17:49on rent. He's more focused on his brand than his budget. And while his message is very powerful,
00:17:57his personal finances are a mess. So Miss SOS, what do you have to say about Jaden's situation?
00:18:09I thought about this long and hard, because it's a very real situation. But I don't want to come
00:18:18off as judgmental, but we're just having a conversation. So I see him as being a very
00:18:28brilliant person. He probably is passionate about what he does. He just has the gift of gab.
00:18:37Charming. And he just comes off as this star when he's teaching people or talking to people
00:18:48or coaching them. But the thing about it is that I feel like he's not really being honest
00:18:57with himself. And sometimes, okay, this is what I think. I don't want to get too off into it.
00:19:05But I think that sometimes people feel, if I can only do this and just stick with it,
00:19:14just focus on it, then somehow or another, maybe I can get out of this debt that I have.
00:19:23You know what I mean? But they're not really being intentional, like having a plan
00:19:34to get out of the debt. It's just a, let me do this because I'm sure if I can do this and get
00:19:41this, then it'll be a cinch for me to catch up on my rent. And to me, that's not, you know,
00:19:50you're really lying to yourself at this point. Yes. Almost like a sort of, I guess, gambling
00:19:58with debt, huh? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But what I do recognize is that there are so many people
00:20:09out in the world who really have the knack for something and they can generate, they can get
00:20:17all of these people, they can probably start generating money as well. But the thing about
00:20:22it is that if something were to happen to that person and the very people that they're coaching
00:20:29find out, oh my God, this guy is like in so much debt and he's wanted by, but yet
00:20:37we're all following this dude, you know, like he's really good at what he says.
00:20:43But his life is jacked up, you know? So I will tell you, I will tell you that there was a reason
00:20:53why I stepped away for a while. I listened in 2022. I'm sitting here saying, all right,
00:21:03you keep saying all of these things, but behind the scenes, it ain't matching up.
00:21:08And exactly what you said, like, I, I, I felt the doors closing in and I was like, well,
00:21:16do you know, uh, there will be no more welcome to the four in one podcast if we don't get these
00:21:23finances in line. So, um, I know exactly what you mean. I know.
00:21:29Exactly. Go ahead. I was going to say,
00:21:37but you recognized, you recognized it. You didn't want that feeling anymore.
00:21:44You want it to do something with your life for you to make yourself better,
00:21:50not to be a people please or anything. So you recognized it, you know?
00:21:55Yeah. And I, I love how you say that a lot of people, they can do certain things. They can
00:22:03generate, we, we all can, we all have the ability to, to generate and we all are creators. God is a
00:22:09creator and we're made in his image. So that's what we have in us. That's what we're put on this,
00:22:14uh, planet earth universe, whatever you want to call it to do. But, um, the biggest thing
00:22:22that is in between us and our purpose and what we're supposed to do is
00:22:29what we spoke about last night is action taking action. So if so many people that read books,
00:22:37they attend seminars, they learn all types of stuff. They, you know, have a mentor. They might
00:22:44even take coaching, life coaching, financial coaching, whatever the case may be. But then
00:22:50they just go back to being normal, go back to their old, old ways and they don't take that
00:22:57action. So what good is it for you to gain all of this information? If you don't take any action
00:23:04and apply it and make those mistakes and you know, it's life, there's going to be ups,
00:23:10downs, peaks, valleys, but we, we have to actually put action behind it.
00:23:14We have to have to actually test it out. We have to actually try it to see exactly,
00:23:19you know, what comes of it.
00:23:22Yeah. I feel like you're not going to do what you're going to do until you really just
00:23:29stop the shit and do it. And that's with anything. It's just not going to,
00:23:36you're not going to do anything until you just stop doing what you're doing.
00:23:41It, it sounds like Jaden is in stages of a awakening, a spiritual awakening. And while
00:23:53he's learning about the generational curses and legacies and a financial freedom and
00:23:58all of those things, he he's behind in his rent. You know, sometimes it takes for people to hit
00:24:04rock bottom. And I truly believe that there are so many people who I have coached and they didn't,
00:24:11but they didn't hit the rock bottom. So they will get halfway through the coaching program and then
00:24:17back out. They they make financial emotional decisions go on a shopping spree at the last
00:24:30minute after they've worked so hard to, or go swipe the credit card again, that's somebody.
00:24:36And those are examples of people who haven't hit the rock bottom. Someone who has hit their rock
00:24:41bottom. They know that they hit their lowest point and they can't get any lower. So the only way that
00:24:48they can get up is to climb out of their hole and climb out of their situation. And after you go
00:24:55through all of that, you don't want to go back. Exactly. And so that really is the key right there
00:25:04is like hitting rock bottom. And some might say, well, why would a person want to do it? I don't
00:25:10even ask questions like that about people anymore. Everybody's different. People are wherever they
00:25:16are, wherever they are supposed to be, maybe on their journey or whatever. I mean, uh, you, you
00:25:23may be 10 steps ahead of that person and that person behind, behind you, we don't, we don't have
00:25:30a rhyme or reason, you know, but, um, you can just only hope that if that's what they want to do,
00:25:37um, then, you know, uh, eventually they'll get it. But I really do agree with you when you say
00:25:45until you hit rock bottom that goes with anything, Jesus. I mean, anything, something that you really
00:25:52want to do, but you just, you just have it bad. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
00:26:01Well, I'll use myself for an example. One thing that I had to learn is that I don't know every
00:26:07damn thing I used to work. I used to work for a, uh, I'll just say I've worked in corporate
00:26:17and they had these teaching techniques and they had all of these things and
00:26:22it was easy for, and they called people experts and stuff. Oh, did you reach out to an expert?
00:26:28Did you reach out to the expert? So it's easy for you to think that you become a know-it-all
00:26:34just because you're good at one thing. So, but the man that knows everything knows nothing at all.
00:26:41Yeah. I've heard that one before. And even though you might be a coach,
00:26:48you might be a mental coach, a financial coach, every coach has a coach and every coach has a
00:26:54mentor. So it, I don't know if Jaden has one or not, but I'm not saying that this is a terrible
00:27:02situation. Um, he can probably get out of this, but maybe he should have a coach.
00:27:10Maybe he should have someone he can look up to. We only get like a snapshot, but I would suggest
00:27:17maybe seeking some coaching, seeking some sort of mentorship to help any, any other
00:27:27things that we can give Mr. Jaden here.
00:27:29Um, well, first off, I, this is my, my opinion, but if, uh, if this is what, you know, Jaden
00:27:42wants to do and he's, you know, kind of making a life of it or, um, whatever you want to call it,
00:27:50whatever you want to call it, yes, having a mentor, but I definitely feel like you should
00:27:58probably, um, surround yourself with like-minded people, same, you know, same thing, or just,
00:28:08you know, having the same intentions. Um, because that's the only way really to break that
00:28:15cycle. And if you want to call it a generational curse, um, you, you know, that's the one thing
00:28:23that will help you to, to see that, wow. Okay. So other people really are doing this and what I'm
00:28:30doing is just so, you know, so far back in time that it's like, doesn't even exist, but I'm still,
00:28:39I'm still in it. You know what I'm saying? And these people right here, they're like,
00:28:44you know, ahead of time, they broke, they broke the cycle. So basically I just think sometimes
00:28:50people have to be introduced, um, you know, to, to other like-minded people who can, you know,
00:28:58sort of guide them, you know, as long as Jaden still has his own mind and, you know, he's not
00:29:05totally being led by somebody else, but just guidance, you know,
00:29:11that makes sense. You know, um, I love that how you said surround yourself by like-minded people,
00:29:18you know, I had to clean up a lot of things and a lot of people that didn't serve me,
00:29:26you know, every relationship and every situation has its purpose and it has its timeline.
00:29:31And we end up putting ourselves into situations when we want to try to hold on to every single
00:29:36relationship, every single piece, you know, it's almost like hoarding and people are brought in
00:29:43our lives to teach us something. And they're here for, what do they say? Reasons and seasons.
00:29:50And sometimes, you know, it might be done. And I found myself in situations when I tried to hold
00:29:57on and I tried to reach back out and how come you ain't calling? How come you this? If you have to
00:30:02chase people down, then maybe those people are not the people that you need in your life. And
00:30:10this is, was a game changer for me when I realized that you are only an average,
00:30:15just an average of the five closest people that you surround yourself around. So just an average.
00:30:22Wow. So when I started to learn that, I said, you know, Laryn, number one, you thought you were
00:30:27know it all. Number two, you prided yourself, which once you have pride, pride comes first.
00:30:34And then after that is destruction. You pride yourself as being the smartest person in a room.
00:30:39And that's not cool because when you are the smartest person in a room, that means that
00:30:45where's, where's the rest of the learning coming from?
00:30:48Wow. So if you look at your circle, everyone, and you realize that you are the smartest person
00:30:56in a room and everyone's coming to you all the time, and you want to be very prideful
00:31:00about, oh yeah, I know everything. And people come to me for advice for everything.
00:31:05As you are releasing who's filling you back up with knowledge and information as you release
00:31:15knowledge, information, guidance, help, however you want to call it. Where does your refill come
00:31:21from? Wow. So that like-minded people thing is definitely on point. For example, if you are
00:31:32are surrounded by a bunch of people who have bad money habits and they like to shop, spend,
00:31:37find, dine when they don't have it. And that's what you surround yourself by. And remember you're
00:31:43going to be an average of the five people you surround yourself by. What do you think you're
00:31:46going to do? Wow. Now, you just opened up the door because listen, when I was in relationship,
00:31:56I know this ain't a topic about relationships because we've been there and done that before,
00:32:02but okay. So now you're married, you're dating, whatever. And do you want your spouse that you
00:32:10just said I do to be hanging around their single friends? Association brings on participation and
00:32:19you're an average of the five people that you surround yourself with. So why would somebody
00:32:24who is married or in a relationship be hanging around a bunch of single people?
00:32:29What do you think is going to happen? Something. I mean, don't get me started. You know,
00:32:37I can talk, but I'm going to be quiet right now. Yeah. Something.
00:32:43So that was a good point. I like that for the like-minded people.
00:32:48Yeah. Yeah. But he will definitely have to, I don't know, he may just have to sit with himself.
00:32:58You know, I don't personally know him, but just talking. And the thing for me is that
00:33:06I don't want to come off as judgmental because I think everybody's sometimes trying wherever they
00:33:12are. But if they're really going to do this and be, what's the word, dedicated to what they're
00:33:23doing, they're just things that you're going to have to change. And that's just the way it is,
00:33:30is with anything. If you want your life to be better and you want to not do what you were
00:33:35doing before, because what happens, you keep getting the same results. You know what I mean?
00:33:41And nothing's changed. And, you know, sometimes we want to blame other people, but honestly,
00:33:48we all know that it's never about the other people. It's more so about you.
00:33:54Everything starts with self. I love that. I love that.
00:33:59And that's with anything.
00:34:02Exactly. When I learned that, my life changed.
00:34:06Yes. That's with anything.
00:34:08Because I was always blaming people, but that is a good point. And, you know,
00:34:14change, you spoke about change, and it's just the pain of change. It's never easy.
00:34:20And there's some work that needs to be, and it's that key word again, action.
00:34:26Yeah. Can I just say something else too, with the shift that's going on? And I know some people,
00:34:34you know, I can't make people believe what I believe, but I know that this shift is no joke.
00:34:40I mean, this is something that has been trying to happen for years. It's like a snake coming
00:34:46out of his skin or a baby coming out of his mother's, you know, canal. It's painful. You're
00:34:54being born, you know, this earth is being reborn. I cannot believe the people who are going through
00:35:02stuff. I mean, painful stuff. It's like everybody. I don't think I've run into
00:35:09anybody that's not going through something right now. And I myself, I mean, I have been through
00:35:17some things, Laryn, but in 2025, in May of 2025, I'm just like, Lord, don't let me find a moving
00:35:31train. Okay. Which I'm not going to, but I'm just kind of using that as a metaphor. Like it's,
00:35:40I really, I feel like I'm trying to be reborn again or something. Cause something is,
00:35:45I'm just like out of sorts all the way around. Well, you know, it is a tough time right now. And
00:35:54I want to say that I'm being optimistic that things are going to look up, which,
00:36:02you know, we have to think that way, but this is some time of uncertainty, put it that way.
00:36:09But with that, there's always a positive. There's always a positive. Once we get through it,
00:36:16as my mentor says, winter always turns to spring. So what happens is when we can embrace it,
00:36:24when we know that spring is coming during the winter, we just think spring. Okay. I might be
00:36:30going through something right now, but trust and believe that winter always turns to spring. So
00:36:35at the end, keep your mind on the end game. Don't focus on the pain that you're in right now,
00:36:41focus on results because what you focus on will become reality. And go ahead.
00:36:52No, I was going to say, ain't that the truth?
00:36:55And what we're focusing and what we're dealing with now. So anybody who's dealing with anything,
00:37:00all it is, is the thoughts that we thought about yesterday. It's our mindset from yesterday.
00:37:05So focus on changing that mindset and everything starts with you. Everything starts with self.
00:37:12You already spoke about not blaming anybody, not pointing fingers, whatever circumstance we have
00:37:19here today. And I'll never forget in 2020, when my physician told me this,
00:37:25Laren, there are no coincidences. And I thought that this lady was crazy. I'm like, what in the
00:37:30hell is she talking? But she told me it is not a coincidence that you are sitting here, speaking
00:37:35to me, what you're speaking to right now, that you're going through a breakup. You're about to
00:37:39go through a divorce. The fact that you have two children, the fact that you left this job,
00:37:44that this is not a coincidence. Everything that we are facing here,
00:37:52remember God made us creators, right? We write our own stories.
00:38:03My mentor says, Laren, you can write pain or you can write medicine.
00:38:09Mm-hmm.
00:38:11So it's all on the thought process, just what you focus on.
00:38:16It really is true though.
00:38:20And it's easier said than done. I know it ain't that easy.
00:38:24But I mean, I do feel like if I have one bit of information or piece of something,
00:38:31not even advice, but just something hopeful to tell someone is,
00:38:39besides going out and spending money that you probably don't need to spend,
00:38:44try to find something else that really gives you peace, like music gives me peace.
00:38:53Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:38:55So I don't care how bad I'm feeling or whatever, I know that I can go to something. It's probably
00:39:02going to be Barry White or somebody like that. And I know his music is probably melancholy,
00:39:07but that bass, it's just something about that bass, you know what I'm saying?
00:39:13And I was just like, I hear you, Barry. Okay, I'm going to feel better.
00:39:19Yeah. Well, you know what my favorite one is.
00:39:23Oh Lord, yes I do. MJB.
00:39:28Yeah, the ecstasy. No, Barry White though.
00:39:32Oh, you're talking about Barry, oh, okay, Barry White. Oh, yeah.
00:39:35Because of Mary J. Blige, she remixed it, so.
00:39:38Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so that's my go-to. So that would be my message. It's really,
00:39:46really hard though, but you just got to want it. You just got to like, just put your hands up and
00:39:54just say, Jesus or whoever you praise, take the wheel, because I can't do this. I really can't do
00:40:02this. Find something that just makes you happy. That's all. If it's just looking through a
00:40:07magazine, if it just changes your mood or something. I know it all sounds corny, but I do.
00:40:14I do all of those things.
00:40:17It don't sound corny to me, because listen, before that I was doing everything but
00:40:22what you said, and I wouldn't even be here today. So it's either life or death. Now,
00:40:27which one is it going to be? That's what I had to tell myself.
00:40:30Yeah, exactly.
00:40:36But I love the vibe. I love all of them. We went to a mental aspect tonight. See,
00:40:42it's a wild card here on the coaching session Thursday. So you got a little mental here,
00:40:49working on that mental, which is good because this is a mental health awareness month.
00:40:59That it is.
00:41:01Which you know, I used to be a mess. I'll be honest. I was a mess. And people were telling
00:41:10me about my mental health and I wasn't paying attention or listening to it. So
00:41:18everything starts with self. Please, please focus on your mental health.
00:41:24Do you think you had an aha moment? I mean, sometimes like I had an aha moment.
00:41:30I had to laugh at myself because I actually felt stupid when I got there. And I was like,
00:41:34oh my God, that's what that is. That's exactly what this means. I had like the light bulb
00:41:42came on. So like for you, you know, when you're talking about something mental or whatever,
00:41:49have you had like the light bulb moment lately or something to just say,
00:41:54okay, I get this. I see why this is happening.
00:41:59I think you touched base when you said, and please don't misquote me if I missed it or
00:42:06went over my head. You said, Jesus, take the wheel. That's one of the best things that I
00:42:13had learned how to do. And that was it because it was a mental trip when I thought that I was
00:42:18in control. Ladies and gentlemen, we all might think that we're in control of our
00:42:24current circumstances, but when you realize that you're not, and when you realize that you can
00:42:30release and when you learn how to release, that's called faith and that's walking by faith and not
00:42:34by sight. When you feel that you need to step in and jump and turn and do and manipulate and make
00:42:40this and that happen, that's where all of the hell and all of the drama and all of the upset
00:42:44comes into place. And the aha moment for me, I love that term that you used too,
00:42:51came when I realized that I needed to get some self-control. And my mentor says,
00:42:58everything starts with self. And I continuously keep saying that over and over again. And that's
00:43:02the theme. I was trying to control other people. Our biggest, I want to say biggest job,
00:43:12if you want to look at it as a job that God has given us is self-control. And every day that we
00:43:19wake up, it's like the reset button has been set and we have to focus and learn this key thing,
00:43:26which is called self-control. Now, if we have to go through this reset button every single day and
00:43:32focus so hard on self-control, how do you think you can control somebody else if you can't even
00:43:38control yourself? So I had to learn how to stop controlling things and get out of the way and
00:43:44don't have nothing to do with me. Exactly.
00:43:51I think life got so much better when I realized that I can't control people. And
00:43:56my mentor always says, Laryn, you cannot beat people into submission.
00:44:04I just spoke to her today and she told me, you can't beat people into submission. Stop trying
00:44:09to make people, they're not your children. First of all, you shouldn't even be beating
00:44:14on your children anyway. I don't beat my children. But you can't beat people into submission.
00:44:20They're not going to do what you want them to do. And if they do, it's only going to be
00:44:23temporary. And as soon as you turn your back, they're going to turn around and do it again
00:44:26anyway. Exactly. Yeah. I'm just laughing to myself because I'm one of those people that
00:44:40can be having a conversation with a group of people and somebody will say something
00:44:44already. I've made a movie out of what they said.
00:44:53What are you picturing? Beating somebody into submission?
00:44:57Yes. Beating the shit out of them. Oh, see, you know what?
00:45:05That's why I say you can't have me on your show because I don't know how to act.
00:45:10Oh my goodness. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we have Miss SOS on here tonight and this is
00:45:21coaching session Thursdays. And now we're getting ready to get into our burning question segment.
00:45:27So if you'd like to chime in on tonight's session, let us know how you feel about the vibe.
00:45:32Chime in on Jaden's situation. Maybe we missed something. Listen, everybody has their different
00:45:38angles. We are not giving any advice. We're just giving our opinions. And yeah, you can give yours
00:45:46as well. 609-200-1098. Again, that number is 609-200-1098. And we're going to get into burning
00:45:55questions. So the burning question that I have for each and every one of you out there tonight is,
00:46:01what does emotional debt look like in your relationships? And how do you begin to pay it
00:46:07back or walk away? And I'll read that again. So what does emotional debt look like in your
00:46:15relationships and how do you begin to pay it back or walk away? That's a deep one.
00:46:32I'll say, I'll say this about emotional debt. I want you to think about your emotions.
00:46:38And I want you to think about when people play games with your emotions. I want you to think
00:46:43about when you're not in control of your emotions. Remember I said everything starts with self and
00:46:48self-control. And I used to be like Vivian Green, an emotional rollercoaster. And it was always up
00:46:56and down. And no matter what somebody said, I was up and down. You said this, I said that.
00:47:01And just think about up and down, depending on what somebody else is doing and manipulating
00:47:07so people can play off of your emotional state and your mental state. And they can do things and
00:47:15they can make a mockery and it can be fun when let's get this person all riled up because we
00:47:20know they're going to black out and act like a fool. I'm sure they said it about me plenty of
00:47:23times and it's okay because I'm in control today. But think about someone who's not in control
00:47:30and it doesn't always have to be outbursts. People can say things,
00:47:33you can internalize things and you can be having an emotional rollercoaster internally.
00:47:40So how do you begin to pay it back? What if someone's giving you love and they're giving
00:47:46you a lot of emotional support and they're in your corner? So how do you pay it back? Or
00:47:52if someone's playing that game and they're taking you on a ride and you want off,
00:47:58how do you walk away from it?
00:48:05I was probably one of those people. I walked away. It took a while, but I did.
00:48:12It was definitely emotional, very internal because
00:48:19you hear me talk a lot of smack, but really
00:48:23I'm an introvert when it comes to my deep, deep, deepest feelings. Sometimes you just won't know
00:48:36because I'm trying to deal with it. And I don't like telling a lot of people my business,
00:48:41even some of my best girlfriends, because I have to deal with this.
00:48:46And sometimes your girlfriends sometimes feel like they're in your corner or they're giving
00:48:52you advice, but it doesn't really come off because sometimes it actually backfires.
00:49:01You know what I mean? I don't know if I'm making any sense, but anyway, I'm just saying that
00:49:07mine is usually internal. So I'm just very quiet with my stuff because I'm trying to...
00:49:23I know exactly what you mean. I'm following you.
00:49:28That's a good point when you said when you listen to people and when it comes to emotional debt,
00:49:34because you said that you take advice or you listen and then it backfires. That's why I always
00:49:40say check the facts and check the sources. So for example, you spoke about, we were talking about
00:49:46Jaden, how he is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
00:49:56how he is a financial guru or whatever, but three months behind in his rent.
00:50:02So check the facts and make sure that you know exactly where you're getting
00:50:08your information from. So for example, I'm not taking relationship advice from a single person.
00:50:15You ain't in a relationship, so I'm not taking any advice. That's the same example for people
00:50:21who are married. Why are you taking advice from somebody who's single?
00:50:26I think it doesn't make any sense. So check the facts first,
00:50:32and that might be a case where you walk away and check this out.
00:50:38I spoke about unsolicited advice in the past.
00:50:42People can give you advice, but you don't have to go and follow through with it.
00:50:51Having that good level of discernment to say, okay,
00:50:55I know what this person is saying, but in reality, something just don't sit right.
00:51:03And if I can say one other thing, for me over the years, I mean, kind of started when I was young,
00:51:12but sometimes I understand a little bit more as I get older, but things come to me.
00:51:20It's just like, whoa, okay, where did that come from? Am I losing my mind? Things will come to me.
00:51:30I'm like, okay, wow. And boy, oh boy, I cannot tell you how accurate those things have been.
00:51:37So that's why I say sometimes just don't say anything. I mean, you don't have to beat yourself
00:51:44up while you're going through this emotional, whatever, turmoil that you're going through.
00:51:50But I know for me, I need to be still. I need to be quiet. I need to think. I need to go to sleep.
00:51:58A lot of times I just deal with mine by sleeping.
00:52:03I know what you mean. That's where a lot of breakthroughs come through.
00:52:08Like I'll say it again, everything starts with self.
00:52:12And sometimes it doesn't require us to say something, but an example of emotional debt.
00:52:26So I was in all types of debt, but also in emotional debt. But what happened is that my
00:52:33mentor, she continued to pay the bill for me. I was saying everything negative about myself,
00:52:41saying everything negative about my situation. And she kept correcting me. She kept mentoring me.
00:52:47She kept teaching me, telling me all of these things. Everything starts with self. Winter
00:52:52always turns to spring. Everything over and over and over again until finally one day it clicked
00:53:00and I got it. Now I met her in 2019. It didn't click until,
00:53:06and it was a couple of stages of clicking. It didn't really click until really click, click
00:53:13until I would say 2022. Now all of that time that she was building and paying that emotional debt,
00:53:24she never stopped. And she never stopped believing in me.
00:53:30And I remember one time I complained to her about somebody and she said, Laryn,
00:53:37what happened if I had given up on you? I said, oh wow. So at that moment I realized that
00:53:47I have to repay back. I give back to my community. I give back to whoever,
00:53:55when I see somebody who was in a situation that I was in,
00:53:59I have like a sort of soft spot for them in my heart. And I'm like, okay,
00:54:03this is my opportunity to repay that emotional debt.
00:54:08And that's what you were meaning by how do you repay or do you just walk away?
00:54:15That that's one exit. That's a positive example of how I pay back. Now I'll give you another
00:54:21example. Sometimes we have to be surrounded by family because we just have to. Sometimes we have
00:54:29to be surrounded by people in a workplace because what are we going to do? Not work.
00:54:32Like we can't pick and choose some of the circumstances that we're stuck in.
00:54:37But I had to mentally walk away from somebody who I was stuck with just because of those specific
00:54:46circumstances. So when I say walk away, mentally shut down, don't listen to anything negative.
00:54:52If I say that the sun is shining, this person will say it's cloudy. If I say that I'm feeling
00:54:58great and wonderful and beautiful, this one says, well, why did I get up this morning?
00:55:04It, I mean, I was in this situation with this individual and I was sort of stuck in it.
00:55:09And I was just praying the whole time, like, please, please get me out of this situation.
00:55:15But that's an example of walking away because this individual was much older than me,
00:55:20stuck in their ways to this day, continuously speaks curses over their lives. And there's
00:55:26nothing that I can do about it. So that's where I'm not going to be emotionally drained by it.
00:55:31I'm not responsible for anybody's nervous system. I don't want to be responsible for
00:55:36anybody else's emotions. And if you're going to continuously do things to the point where
00:55:41it starts to affect me and drain me emotionally, then I got to walk away.
00:55:48Hello? You still there?
00:55:51Yes. Yes.
00:55:53Did we lose you?
00:55:55I just wanted to make sure. I heard you talking, but something was funny with my phone.
00:56:02What was I going to say? When you start to give the example of everything that you were going
00:56:11through with your person at that time, do you want to tell me what came over my whole body
00:56:19when you said that? I felt so exhausted.
00:56:26While you were saying that, I just felt like, Jesus, I am so exhausted.
00:56:34Energy shifts.
00:56:40Were you feeling that way?
00:56:41Interesting.
00:56:42Were you feeling that way? I'm just saying that that's what my body felt like,
00:56:46just exhausted, just can't do anything.
00:56:50I was feeling that way every day when I was interacting with this individual, absolutely.
00:56:56Yeah, that's how I felt while you were explaining it. I was exhausted.
00:57:01Yes. It was very, very exhausting. And I don't have time for energy vampires.
00:57:08I don't. And I try to avoid them, and I can spot one a mile away.
00:57:13I think you're probably very empathetic.
00:57:18Absolutely.
00:57:20That's why I state myself, really. It's not because I don't like people. I love people,
00:57:25helping people. I love to talk and things like that, but it's like the moment I get out,
00:57:30and it's just like, oh God, I could just feel everybody's energy, and I just want to go back
00:57:36home again. And it's like, well, I don't want to live my life like that either. You know what I mean?
00:57:43Yeah. And you know, people feed off of empathy, so it's not good.
00:57:51Yes. Yeah. So this is really great. I love it.
00:57:58That is awesome. I'm so glad. I'm so glad.
00:58:00It's really great.
00:58:01So any last words, feedback, anything you'd like to give to whether it's Jaden,
00:58:11myself, the Burning Questions, the people out there listening. I will say that we do have some
00:58:19higher ratings tonight.
00:58:20Oh, wow.
00:58:21So look at that.
00:58:24Well, I can't see anything, but you can.
00:58:27You brought the crowd tonight.
00:58:29Oh, thank you. Thank you. I don't know what to say, because I just say none of us are perfect.
00:58:36You know, we are where we are in life. And I'm not the kind of person who says, well,
00:58:48again, I don't know why that person's doing that. I just stop and think about it.
00:58:53Again, I don't know why that person's doing that. I just stopped saying
00:58:57shit like that a long time ago, because people just do what they do. And they,
00:59:02wherever they are in life, I mean, they just got to get it. We're just not all on the same page.
00:59:10Right. Nor will we ever be.
00:59:12So they'll get it in their own time. And if they don't, then move along.
00:59:18Absolutely.
00:59:19It's just as simple as that. And I just wish everybody well, and take care of yourself. And
00:59:28if you want to cuss somebody out, just cuss them out in your head.
00:59:35I'm always cussing somebody out in my head.
00:59:42Yes. Well, listen, my days of doing that is over.
00:59:49I don't do that anymore.
00:59:51Oh, God. Well, it keeps me going.
00:59:54But remember, I spoke about this in my class earlier today,
01:00:02more is caught than more is taught. I don't know if it makes me feel good or what, but I'm sure
01:00:10you have the same thing. You didn't have to teach your kids how to cuss somebody out. I'm sure they
01:00:14learned. More is caught than more is taught. I didn't have to say, now, this is what you say to
01:00:22them. Nah, please. But you know what? I learned from the best. More is caught than more is taught.
01:00:30I did talk to my youngest son who's like in his late 30s, and we had a long, long talk,
01:00:36just catching up. And he said, you know, it's funny how I think back on things that you used to
01:00:45say to me when I was younger. He said, you know how we always say older people say things,
01:00:52but you're not really sure what the meaning is, but they just have this thing that they say.
01:00:59And he said, I always think about you because you always used to say, I must have been saying
01:01:06some old people stuff, but you know, anyway, he says he thinks about it. And he's like,
01:01:14it actually made sense, but I didn't really understand it until like a few years ago or
01:01:21something. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but you know, yeah.
01:01:25You know, you do, because I find myself thinking about all of the little sayings that my mom and
01:01:33my grandma, my granddad used to say. And then now today I'm like, I got it. I know exactly
01:01:39why you were saying those things. Cause I either say the same thing or I'm thinking it. So yeah,
01:01:43I get it. I was going to say one of my favorite sayings that I used to remember my
01:01:53grandmother saying all the time, grandma B is that,
01:01:58don't be worried about what people have to say because of the same people that have something
01:02:03to say, don't have a pot to piss on or a window to throw it out. So I don't be concerned what
01:02:09anybody thinks because of the same people that are saying stuff, the same people that got so
01:02:14much to say, they are the same ones that ain't got a pot to piss on or a window to throw it out.
01:02:19So we all good. And I find myself saying, Oh, well, a hard head makes a soft ass. Doesn't it?
01:02:28What my mom used to say to my grandson, you just did it. So, I mean, when you get tired of doing
01:02:35it, you'll, you'll not do it anymore, but you're two years old and I'm not really trying to like
01:02:42be all over you and hover, but you you'll get the message. So you you're being hard headed,
01:02:49even at two, because it's just really smart. You know what I mean? So
01:02:53some people might disagree with me, but I know my grandson.
01:03:00I don't know how we learn from them. We learn from our children.
01:03:04We don't learn from our grandchildren. So yeah, don't think that you can't learn now.
01:03:09Yes, indeed.
01:03:11Especially in reverse, like, just cause you're the adult, you're the grandparent don't mean
01:03:16that you always gone. What did I say to a person who thinks that they know everything knows nothing
01:03:20at all. Here's another thing too, that I'll leave. My grandmother told me this in 2020,
01:03:28when my life was in complete shambles. If you were out there worried about something,
01:03:34especially if you worried about somebody taking something from you, whether they
01:03:38taken something from you financially, whether they're taking something from you emotionally,
01:03:42whether they're trying to take away that man, that woman, whatever relationship, that friendship.
01:03:50What is meant for you is meant for you. What God has for you is for you. Can't nobody else
01:03:54take it away from you. If it was yours and it was meant for you, then can't nobody else take
01:03:58it away from you. Now, if they took it away from you, they're able to take it away from you.
01:04:03It was never yours to begin with.
01:04:06I like that.
01:04:08We get all through, we get all crazy and worked up over thinking and wanting to hold on to things.
01:04:15But if it was yours to begin with, they wouldn't be able to take it away from you. So that,
01:04:19you know, we, I hate to take it back to relationships, but I'm going to.
01:04:23So that little boo thing that you got, you sitting here cussing and fighting and
01:04:27going back and forth with the next, if he or she was yours to begin with. Number one,
01:04:34you wouldn't be cussing and fighting and going back and forth with somebody. And you'll be able
01:04:37to rest your head at night and sleep knowing that nobody would be able to take them away from you.
01:04:41And if they do, then just say, okay, you were never mine to begin with.
01:04:46And the minute that you can release that and let that go, the next best thing is around the corner.
01:04:52Right around the corner. I mean, like, as soon as you walk out your door.
01:04:57Can I tell you that the truth is we spoke about Fantasia and the truth is,
01:05:01is that, is that love is here, right? Love is here. It's a different kind of love, but it's here.
01:05:11Yeah. Wow.
01:05:19And on that note,
01:05:23I want to say thank you so much for coming on in. And are you coming back next week?
01:05:31Uh, if you'll have me, I will. Yes. Same place. Same time. 7 PM. Same link.
01:05:37Okay. And hopefully I have my stuff together.
01:05:41This is just a test sample, you know, we got
01:05:46same place, same time. Ms. SOS will be back for coaching Thursdays. We have no idea what we're
01:05:51going to be talking about. We might be talking about the spiritual. We spoke about pretty much
01:05:56all of them, spiritual, uh, mental, physical. We didn't talk about physical. We didn't talk
01:06:02about dieting and food and getting out into nature, but maybe next week, we never know what
01:06:08you're going to get here on coaching session Thursdays. And, um, yeah. So on that note,
01:06:13SOS, I will see you next week. Thank you so much. Have a good night. Anything you want to tell us
01:06:17before we get out of here? Yeah. Thanks everybody for listening. And, uh, thank you,
01:06:23Laryn. We go a long way back and, um, I'm glad that, uh, you know, I just, we're still here.
01:06:30You know what I mean? So thank you for that. And I'll, um, I'll see you the next time.
01:06:37Okay. Okay. Good night. Good night. Peace and blessings. Talk to you soon.
01:06:41Bye-bye. Good night.
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01:07:37Coquito all the way from Puerto Rico. Thank you for supporting me or for, you know, since like,
01:07:43what has it been like three or four years at this moment? Uh, Onyx blade. Thank you so much.
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