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00:00Good evening, everyone. I'm Laura Ingram. This is the Ingram Angle from Washington tonight.
00:07Mayor Pete tries to look manlier. Is he eyeing a 2028 run?
00:12What's exciting and compelling about an opportunity like this is to be campaigning for values and for ideas rather than a specific electoral campaign.
00:22And the Democratic circus is back at the Capitol.
00:25That's not the facts of the case.
00:26Yes, it is the facts.
00:27Madam Secretary, moving on, do you have a right with her and our families and parents are given that ability to keep their children with them when they return to their home countries?
00:38And why, pray tell, is AOC so angry?
00:42I will not yield because it was a terribly disrespectful comment and I will not yield to disrespectful men. Thank you very much.
00:51But first, the business of peace. That's the focus of tonight's Angle.
00:57Now, what's better, fighting wars or making money?
01:02On day two of his trip to the Middle East, Donald Trump once again bet on peace and prosperity.
01:08And he bet big.
01:09We see him working 24-7 trying to build more jobs and wealth for Americans at home and at the same time build a more peaceful world.
01:18Now, after a dizzying pace of meetings in Saudi Arabia yesterday, Trump moved on to Qatar, announcing another windfall for America, more than $243 billion in new deals.
01:31Now, the investments pledged will directly and indirectly create hundreds of thousands of jobs in the United States, perhaps more.
01:38The biggest deal involves an American company that's struggled in recent years and needed today's news badly.
01:45Of course, I'm talking about Boeing.
01:47Gutter agreed to purchase as many as 210 American-made Boeing 787 Dreamliners and 777 X-Jets.
01:55GE Aerospace produces the engines.
01:58The deal, $96 billion.
02:00Then there's an energy infrastructure deal, $8.5 billion.
02:05Parsons, they nabbed 30 projects worth $97 billion, including major airport construction.
02:11And the Trump administration announced a $1 billion quantum technology deal that apparently is extremely important.
02:18And, of course, Gutter also made major defense industry investments, which means the workers and shareholders of Raytheon and General Atomics should be very happy today.
02:28And if that wasn't enough on his plate, Trump all week long has kept his sights on peace.
02:36India and Pakistan, two nuclear powers, are on the brink.
02:39Well, the Trump administration worked the phones, undoubtedly helping to ease tensions, even if India doesn't want to get President Trump credit.
02:47OK, they're always like that.
02:48And the ceasefire is holding.
02:50And with Russia and Ukraine, Trump's been a consistent force for peace.
02:54And, of course, he's defying the war hawks all along.
02:57Trump's still pushing for peace tonight.
03:00Zelensky's in Turkey and a Russian delegation will meet with his team on Thursday.
03:05Now, after everything he's done to start peace talks, Democrats' old criticisms, though, seem so silly tonight.
03:12The person who's running the executive branch is a deranged, unhinged, dangerous president.
03:19The president takes no responsibility, refuses to lead, blames others, cozies up to dictators.
03:25The president of the United States is so unstable, is so volatile, has a decision-making process that is so quixotic that he might order a nuclear weapons strike.
03:39Oh, S-A-T word, quixotic.
03:42But as usual, of course, they're all wrong.
03:44Trump wants Russia and Ukraine to agree to a 30-day ceasefire.
03:48There could also be discussions, we understand tonight, about a huge prisoner of war exchange.
03:53So Trump's the opposite of dangerous.
03:56This has been a very interesting couple of hours.
04:00We discussed the world.
04:02We discussed Russia and Ukraine, where you've been a tremendous help in so many different ways.
04:08We certainly discussed Iran, where it's been really an interesting situation.
04:15I have a feeling it's going to work out.
04:16I think it's going to work.
04:18We'll see.
04:19But there's no challenge that Trump is backing away from, with Trump even urging Syria to chart a new way forward.
04:27I am also ordering the cessation of sanctions against Syria to give them a fresh start.
04:33It gives them a chance for greatness.
04:35The sanctions were really crippling, very powerful.
04:37And I spoke to Mohammed, and I spoke to our friend from Turkey, who we just spoke to also, by phone, now.
04:49But I felt very strongly that this would give them a chance.
04:52It's not going to be easy anyway, so it gives them a good, strong chance.
04:56Yeah, it's wild, right?
04:58You know, we all know Syria's past.
04:59It's repression, support of terrorists.
05:01But with this audacious move, Trump is winning praise from the unlikeliest people.
05:07It almost makes me nervous, including the guy who helped bring down Mike Flynn.
05:11In The Washington Post, David Ignatius wrote that American foreign policy has been stuck within a set of fixed parameters for several decades,
05:20and it's worth giving them a fresh look.
05:22Well, for all the criticisms that they've leveled at Trump, all they've accused him of over the years, the press really never understood him.
05:31They never understood that Donald Trump never, ever gives up on peace, for the precise reason he never gives up on America.
05:40Who can forget this moment?
05:41My friend.
05:43It is good to see you again.
05:49I've never expected to meet you at this place.
05:52That's good.
05:53That's my honor.
05:54Now, right there, he showed the world what?
05:58That he would meet with anyone.
06:01It was a signal that he was willing to have a conversation if the other side was willing to meet him halfway.
06:08And yeah, there's precedent for this.
06:09Remember the other president we had who came from New York Society, Teddy Roosevelt?
06:13You know, he won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1905 because he brokered a deal to end the Russo-Japanese War.
06:20He invited Russia and Japan to come to Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
06:25And he engaged in a little shuttle diplomacy, as it wasn't called that then, but he made time to go up there.
06:30People thought Roosevelt was just an outdoorsman, a cowboy.
06:33But he was also from elite New York Society.
06:36He was a member of the Persillian Club at Harvard.
06:37He knew the value of peace.
06:41First American to win the Nobel Prize, Peace Prize.
06:45And so does President Trump.
06:46He gets what peace is.
06:48Donald Trump knows that being president isn't just sitting in the Situation Room and ordering missile strikes.
06:53All the photo ops, remember those?
06:54Sometimes a president needs to get on a plane and work for peace.
06:59Putting America first can't ever mean putting peace last.
07:04We may never see another president like this again.
07:07It's doubtful.
07:08Because he's trying to take on many of the toughest problems all at once.
07:12The stupid, short-sighted policies of previous presidents destroyed our edge in manufacturing and kept us mired in Iraq and Afghanistan.
07:22But Trump?
07:23He's the best salesman for the U.S. industry.
07:26The best I've ever seen.
07:27And he's the best salesman I've ever seen for peace.
07:30He starts with the right question.
07:33If we don't make medicines, ships, electronics, maybe at some point commercial jetliners, steel, aluminum, automobiles, how the heck are we going to remain a superpower?
07:44Like most of you, the angle was frustrated.
07:48We were angry and worried for four long years as we watched America drift aimlessly without a real president.
07:55My, how things have changed now that we have a real president who embraces the job and goes full throttle round the clock for America first.
08:06And that's the angle.
08:07And on to another story, a huge day at the Supreme Court tomorrow for the Trump administration's agenda for immigration, border enforcement, some of the trans issues, doge, and an array of policy objectives that were stymied by runaway district court judges in blue states.
08:25One judge issues a nationwide injunction.
08:27And look, what he can do is deep six that policy and deep six and undermine the will of 77 million voters.
08:35Utah Senator Mike Lee has been all over this issue.
08:38And Marchi introduced a bill to prevent single district court judges from issuing these blanket injunctions.
08:45Senator, I'm going to be at the court tomorrow for this argument.
08:48It's going to be a long one, about two hours plus.
08:52What do you think will happen?
08:54I know it's hard to predict what the court will do, but this has been such a thorn in the side of the Trump administration.
09:01What's the legal case here?
09:03It has been, especially because then there's been a deterioration of the understanding of the difference between a judge and a president.
09:09We've got judges cosplaying as presidents.
09:12Look, judges aren't presidents.
09:14They're not politicians.
09:15They're not there to make executive decisions.
09:17They're examining what it means to have a president issue a presidential directive within the scope of his executive authority.
09:25And whether and to what extent and what circumstances a single federal district judge can step in and say, I don't like that, relitigate the merits of the policy decision and halt it.
09:35Now, a lot of these judges understand that their temporary restraining orders or preliminary injunctions aren't necessarily going to be upheld once they're fully litigated in court on appeal.
09:44But they know that they can slow it.
09:46Yeah, they can slow it.
09:48And by doing that, they can deny the president a substantial portion of his presidency through delay.
09:53That's the problem.
09:54And that's what I hope and expect to see the court remedy after oral argument.
09:59This is an unusual circumstance, Laura, as you know, in which they hear an argument in mid-May.
10:04They try to resolve all their cases by the end of June.
10:07So we can expect a decision most likely within the next six weeks.
10:10I hope and expect to see the court clamped down on this and say, look, you're depriving him of his presidency.
10:17It's undermining the will of the voters, is it not?
10:19It is completely eroding the democratic process, which Democrats and liberals for the last 10 years of Donald Trump have said they're so worried about.
10:29That's correct.
10:30There is a good reason why the executive power and the legislative power under Article 2 and Article 1 of the Constitution is vested in our system only to elected officials.
10:41Judges play a different role.
10:42They're not there to decide what the law should be, what the policy should be.
10:45They're there to adjudicate based on what the law says, to interpret what it says.
10:50These guys are making policy, and they're doing it under the guise of judging, and it's wrong.
10:55I mean, everything from the doge cuts to USAID funding to immigration policy, some of the border enforcement issues, deportation.
11:05I mean, this is really the Trump agenda, the core of it, domestically at least.
11:09It is indeed, and it's all too tempting if you're an NGO or an activist group or an individual activist, to go judge shopping.
11:15There are certain federal district courts and federal district court judges, including a lot of those serving on the U.S. District Court for D.C., where they've got a lot of left-leaning judges.
11:25They've got pretty high odds of getting a really sympathetic left-leaning judge who hates Donald Trump and wants to undermine him at every turn.
11:33In many instances, you've got judges with close family and personal connections to those who have been involved in this.
11:39Judge James Boesberg is one of them.
11:40Judge James Boesberg.
11:41What do you think of the justices speaking out about the, quote, attacks on the judiciary?
11:47When you and I were clerking, Supreme Court justices, they would talk, you know, in academic circles.
11:54But some of the comments recently from some of the justices on the court really seem to be really directly responding to politicians and their views of the court.
12:04That is exactly right.
12:05It would be a lot easier to take some of those comments seriously if those comments were even-handed, if they were ambidextrous.
12:13If, in other words, when Joe Biden a few years ago was criticizing the courts or threatening to defy court orders or a Supreme Court ruling, if they had made any of those comments then.
12:23And yet those justices making those comments then, now, were not ever making those comments then.
12:30And that raises the level of suspicion.
12:31Well, you never heard John Roberts.
12:33You know, God bless him.
12:34You never heard John Roberts talk about the threat to the judiciary under those circumstances.
12:39Not Chief Justice Roberts.
12:40Not Justice Sotomayor.
12:42Not any of those who have at times been sympathetic to the left.
12:46Justice Thomas and Gorsuch have both had language in their previous opinions, which indicate their great concern about these nationwide injunctions.
12:58Justice Thomas, universal injunctions are legally and historically dubious.
13:01Then common practice of trial courts ordering relief that transcends the cases before them.
13:07That's Justice Gorsuch.
13:09It looks like those two have had about enough of these nationwide injunctions.
13:13But the real question is, I guess, Kavanaugh, although he's kind of an executive branch guy, Amy Coney Barrett, and who else might be?
13:23Oh, the chief.
13:24Yeah, yeah, and the chief.
13:26Look, there's always some uncertainty as to approach a Supreme Court argument.
13:29I do think, though, we can probably count to five, possibly six, possibly even higher.
13:36Possibly Kagan.
13:37Yes, because this is not distinctively political, Laura.
13:42This is a constitutional issue.
13:44If we look at this from the standpoint of what Article 3 of the Constitution, which outlines the authority of the courts,
13:49what it does, it gives the courts the power to decide cases and controversies based on the meaning of the law,
13:55not to relitigate policy determinations.
13:58That's the problem we have here.
13:59That's the problem I hope and expect to see the Supreme Court resolve in the case being argued tomorrow.
14:04And it also reminds us that the Trump administration needs to get a lot of judges confirmed.
14:09100%.
14:09And McConnell was good at that, so they got to move on that.
14:13Senator, great to see you.
14:15Likewise.
14:16I'll report back to you what I see tomorrow.
14:18Please do.
14:19All right.
14:19Ahead, Mayor Pete enters the manosphere, sparking 2028 rumors.
14:24Next.
14:29Just when you thought Democrat prospects couldn't seem more bleak,
14:32one of Biden's most annoying cabinet secretaries reemerges.
14:37At a moment when the President of the United States thinks he can send you to another country
14:41or shut down the broadcast license of a TV station if he doesn't like what it has to say.
14:45That is not freedom.
14:46We have lost some freedoms in this country during this administration and the previous Trump administration.
14:54But we will not rest until we have restored freedoms like a woman's right to choose.
14:59There is a parade of horribles emanating from this White House.
15:03The American people bow to no king.
15:07Did you see people in the front row sleeping?
15:08I swear I saw that.
15:10Now, this from a transportation secretary who had to be shamed into visiting East Palestine, Ohio,
15:15after that horrific toxic train derailment.
15:19Another silly man with multiple fancy degrees.
15:22And now we're supposed to be impressed by his newfound views on Biden's re-election run?
15:27Would the party have been better off if he had just not run for re-election?
15:31Maybe.
15:31And, you know, right now, with the benefit of hindsight, I think most people would agree that that's the case.
15:36We're also not in a position to wallow in hindsight.
15:40We've got to get ready for some fundamental tests of the future of this country and this party.
15:46If you can't grow a beard on the side, don't grow it.
15:49Here's a newsflash.
15:49Don't grow it.
15:50It's fine.
15:51Here to discuss this is Mary Catherine Hamm, Fox News contributor, outlet columnist, and Dan Turrentine,
15:56co-host of the morning meeting.
15:57Mary Catherine, I'm trying to decide who would be the worst candidate for the Democrats.
16:01In 2028, he's near the top of the list.
16:05Does he have no other career path at this point?
16:07Please inform us.
16:08I mean, I think this has been his dream from day one.
16:10He wants to be in Iowa with his sleeves rolled up chatting with the crowds.
16:13And this is his second chance at it.
16:15I think, look, this rehab he's trying to do is not going to work.
16:20People aren't going to buy this.
16:21The people who are most in charge of the Democrats becoming the party of blowhards and punishing
16:28everyone for speaking freely.
16:30Those guys are out in front saying, you know, maybe we should do things differently.
16:33Oops.
16:34But that doesn't really sell.
16:36And I would say, though, that he anybody who can talk is a little bit of a danger.
16:41Newsom can talk.
16:42Buttigieg can talk.
16:43They just have to talk about like how they didn't do their jobs for a long time and are
16:46bad at them.
16:47Dan, again, the problem that the Democrats had, many problems, is young men.
16:54And it kind of returned to the basics, kind of common sense.
16:57Does he ooze any of what is needed in the Democrat Party?
17:02I mean, he's obviously not a dumb person and a Rhodes Scholar or whatever that means
17:05anymore.
17:05But is it what was it?
17:07Rhodes Scholar?
17:08I don't know what he got one of the scholarships.
17:10So he's smart.
17:11He's a smart guy.
17:11But I don't find him ever connecting with anybody.
17:17I mean, even South Bend was a disaster and he was mayor of South Bend, Indiana.
17:21Well, look, I mean, you know, he is very comfortable in his own skin.
17:25He is never going to win, you know, charisma competition.
17:29But he's got kind of that Midwestern earnest sense about him.
17:33I think he is unafraid to go before different audiences, whether it's coming on this network,
17:38going on these podcasts.
17:39You know, a lot of Democrats talk about it, but he is willing to do it and has showed
17:44that kind of dexterity to be able to go between different audiences.
17:49Third thing is he has run once.
17:51You know, Mary Catherine said it.
17:53And you can't underestimate kind of knowing what's in front of you, going through that
17:58slog, kind of being able to get ready for it.
18:02And then the last thing is he's doing the things that if you're serious, you would do.
18:06You he's been in Iowa, he's meeting privately with staff and donors and activists.
18:11Well, but, but, but look, I mean, you said it, he worked in the Biden administration.
18:16He's not only going to have to answer, what did you know and when did you know it, but
18:19account for his record.
18:21And secondly, he's going to have to pick a lane.
18:23Is he progressive?
18:24Is he moderate?
18:25He's going to have to put meat on the bone.
18:26And that's when you start losing people sometimes.
18:30I'm going to say the air traffic control condition that he left the country in, that in and of
18:37itself is disqualifying.
18:40I mean, we're finding out we're, you know, that we're still using floppy disks and stuff
18:44like that at the air traffic control tower.
18:46So that was his primary job, keeping the country safe.
18:49Now, kind of all of it seemed to unravel at the beginning of Trump, but that was because
18:53the systems weren't updated.
18:54Well, look, he wasn't just asleep at the switch.
18:57He was rarely at the switch.
18:58I mean, we saw it over and over and again.
19:00I think with him or Newsom, whoever it is, Pritzker, they're going to have to answer
19:04for their actual records, what they were doing in office, what they were doing while Illinois
19:08or California became worse, what they were doing while transportation situations became
19:12worse, when they were supposed to be doing the job they were hired for.
19:15You can talk all you want, but you got to talk about those things eventually.
19:18Now, you do have a record and he was on his bike, as Trump said.
19:20It was, it's a nice bike, as Trump said.
19:22Now, if he doesn't catch fire, Dan, he has some big competition.
19:29Watch.
19:30I do believe that we're in a moment when people have to stand up and fight.
19:34It's a time to make sure that you're stopping Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans in Congress
19:39as best we can.
19:40We've got to make sure that the terrible things that are being proposed by the right-wing Republicans
19:45who are in control of Congress don't happen.
19:48So, the question is, how can I best participate in the fight?
19:52He's asking a lot of questions, not providing a lot of answers, Dan.
19:57Yeah.
19:57I mean, look, fight is not a strategy, right?
20:00I mean, it's a good rallying cry, but whether it's J.B. Pritzker or AOC or Gretchen Whitmer,
20:06ultimately, you know, the party isn't going to lack for people who are upset with Donald Trump.
20:12They've got to lay out a vision of what they'll do for the real lives of real people to make it better.
20:18Kamala Harris couldn't do it.
20:19Joe Biden didn't really do it.
20:21And so I think the candidates that break out are willing to step forward and say,
20:25these are the things that I'll do for you.
20:28Well, Biden's back in the media, as everyone's seen.
20:31And the Democrats have a new script to follow, apparently.
20:34Watch this.
20:34Do you think Biden deserves the blame for the loss in 2020, 2024?
20:41Katie, we're looking forward.
20:43Would you want Biden to campaign for House Democrats?
20:47We're not looking backward.
20:48We're looking forward.
20:49I'm not interested in going backwards in time.
20:52I'm interested in going forward.
20:54You know what that reminds me of, Mary Catherine?
20:56Turn the page.
20:58Turn the page.
20:58Didn't work when they were doing it in August at the convention.
21:01What about that?
21:01Yeah, whenever I really mess up and have something to answer for, I'm like, you know what?
21:05Let's move forward.
21:05Let's move forward from here.
21:07They don't want to be held accountable, which is why we're looking forward instead of backward,
21:11because they were part of this cover-up.
21:13And it is a disaster perpetrated on the American people.
21:17I'm glad the media is finally noticing it so they can talk about it,
21:19so the American people don't forget this happened to them.
21:21But those folks need to be answering those questions,
21:23and they need to be looking back at their role in this.
21:26Well, the media as co-conspirators to the Biden cover-up.
21:30Mary Catherine, Dan, thank you so much.
21:33And ahead, hysterical Democrats.
21:36Are they a match for Trump's cabinet?
21:41Now, I've been telling you for some time now,
21:44the Democrats' new strategy to try to get an edge on Republicans
21:47is to try to create TikTok moments,
21:50viral video moments that will ricochet all over social media.
21:54And that was on full display today when Trump cabinet officials stepped into the ring.
21:58In the first round, we have Rosa, the purple people-eater, DeLauro,
22:03versus HHS secretary and muscle man, RFK Jr.
22:07You talk about closing the generally recognized as safe or grass loophole,
22:12which allows food companies to determine the safety of their own ingredients,
22:16something that I have advocated for years.
22:19Look at our children.
22:20They're the sickest children in the world.
22:22Congressman DeLauro, you say that you've worked for 20 years on getting food tie out.
22:26Give me credit. I got it out in 100 days.
22:30I'll give you that credit.
22:31All right, so let's work together and do something that we all believe in,
22:35which is have healthy kids in our country, for God's sake.
22:39And in the second round, it's Norma, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about,
22:44Torres, taking on Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy.
22:47The administration undermined that by offering deferred resignations to controllers.
22:54And at least 400 of them responsible for maintaining air traffic control systems were fired,
23:02resulting in delays to much-needed upgrades.
23:05We have not fired, haven't let any one air traffic controller go.
23:09You said that we let 400 go.
23:11No one in air traffic control has been allowed to take a deferred resignation offer.
23:17We have preserved all of our safety-critical mission positions, including air traffic controllers.
23:24Yeah.
23:24I don't know how they read every question.
23:26They can't memorize anything.
23:27Isn't that their job?
23:29All right, in the final fight of the night,
23:31Eric Fang Fang Swalwell gets smoked by DHS Secretary Kristi Noem.
23:35Two weeks ago, your agency deported a four-year-old American citizen in a stage four cancer battle.
23:42What are you doing to get him back to the country so he can get his treatment?
23:46Congressman, this mother wished to keep her family together and to take her child with her.
23:51So as every single person is given the opportunity to, medical care is given throughout the process.
23:57Do you believe you have a right to deport a U.S. citizen?
24:00That mother chose to keep her family together, and that is what President Trump is focused on.
24:05That's not the facts of the case.
24:06Yes, it is the facts.
24:07Madam Secretary, moving on.
24:09Do you have a right?
24:11And our families and parents are given that ability to keep their children with them
24:15when they return to their home countries.
24:19Here to weigh in, Florida congressman and gubernatorial candidate in Florida, Byron Donalds.
24:24Congressman, I'm watching these individuals, and I'm thinking, first of all,
24:29what a waste of taxpayer dollars that the salary of those congressmen are actually paid,
24:35because they clearly have staff who write everything for them, and they can't think.
24:40And one after another, Trump's cabinet officials come in and say, no, that's not correct.
24:45This is what the truth is.
24:46What's the mood up there in Capitol Hill?
24:48Is it just desperation?
24:49Because it looks like it.
24:50Full desperation.
24:51Look, the Democrats really don't have any leadership.
24:53They don't know where to take their party.
24:55Are they going to moderate?
24:56Are they going to become more progressive?
24:58Are they going to stay in Democrat status quo?
25:01They don't know.
25:02And so all they have is the lash out factor, doing these types of hearings,
25:06raising the craziest things that don't actually matter,
25:09getting caught in the weeds on weird people like Kilmar Garcia.
25:14Like, that's now the poster child for what deportations are going to look like in the United States.
25:19The Democrats are going to take that side of the argument.
25:21Speaking of that, Congressman Swalwell had a bit of a fit over the photo of Abrego Garcia's hands.
25:30Watch.
25:31You agree, though, that this is doctored.
25:33Is that right?
25:34The same protocols that are applied to every...
25:36Madam Secretary, I want you to have credibility, and I want you to be taken seriously.
25:39I am taken quite seriously.
25:41Is it doctored or not doctored?
25:42The importance that the president has given me to do this.
25:44I understand.
25:45Madam Secretary, I have a seven-year-old, a six-year-old, and a three-year-old.
25:48I have a bulls**t detector.
25:50I'm just asking you, is this doctored or not doctored?
25:54So the picture was translating the symbols on the knuckles.
25:59So it was saying, this stands for M, this stands for S.
26:03So when he's saying it's doctored, he literally knows he's lying.
26:07Yeah, he does.
26:07But he does it anyway.
26:08Let me help my colleague who has no credibility.
26:11That picture has what's called a caption.
26:13The caption is to explain what the tattoo means.
26:16So everybody in our country has the same piece of information.
26:20President Trump ran on and won on deporting criminal illegal aliens.
26:25That's what he's doing.
26:27But when you do that, it completely destroys the narrative of the Democrat Party over the
26:31last couple of decades, which calls for completely leaving our borders unsecured and allowing
26:36anybody in the country.
26:38So they're left trying to defend the indefensible.
26:41So if they continue to do this, they're going to lose.
26:43But that's OK, because they have no policy.
26:45They have no strategy.
26:47Republicans have the solution for the future of this nation.
26:50And commend the cabinet of President Trump.
26:52He has chosen great cabinet officials who are pushing back and they're winning the war.
26:57And I think they're getting better and better.
26:58Yes.
26:59I mean, when you get into a new job, you know, I mean, it's tough in the beginning.
27:01But you can see, you can see like Duffy and these guys, they're really starting to,
27:05you know, get, get, get in the groove of the job and getting much more comfortable and
27:10much more confident.
27:11And I, I saw that on display versus the Democrats who seem to be getting less confident and
27:16less competent as, as the days go on.
27:19Congressman, great to see you as always.
27:21All right.
27:21You take care.
27:22Take it easy.
27:22I don't want him in the ring.
27:23Destroy all of them.
27:25All right.
27:25Coming up, AOC refuses to yield her time on Capitol Hill early this morning.
27:29And Robert De Niro trashes Trump abroad.
27:32Seen and Unseen with Raymond Arroyo is next.
27:34It's time for Seen and Unseen, where we reveal the stories behind the headlines.
27:42And for that, we turn to Fox News contributor Raymond Arroyo.
27:45All right, Raymond, tell us about this unbelievable markup of the big, beautiful bill.
27:51Is that what it's actually going to be called on the Hill?
27:53Well, maybe look, Laura, this is the committee on house energy and commerce, but there didn't
28:00seem to be much energy in that room.
28:02This bill markup could have been sponsored by Relaxium.
28:06Members started dozing off throughout the grueling writing of this bill.
28:10Okay.
28:11I mean, they were just reclining and passing out.
28:14And I guess constituents were not happy online.
28:17They were trawling all of these guys.
28:19Oh, my God.
28:20Look at them sleeping.
28:21You're not kidding.
28:21Debbie Dingell was out for the count.
28:23Oh, my God.
28:25Debbie Dingell definitely needs a little something, a little three-shot espresso or whatever.
28:31Now, she tried to talk the Napa way with this post, saying that been up for 31 hours
28:36straight fighting Republicans, trying to gut Medicaid.
28:39Close my eyes to think about an America where everyone has access to quality, affordable
28:43health care.
28:44Literally, no one believes it.
28:47Just say you fell asleep.
28:48Like, this is why they have no credibility.
28:50Don't lie about universal health care.
28:54Look, this is this is GOP Congresswoman Kat Kamek, who poor baby.
28:58She's pregnant.
28:59Watch this.
29:00It is 4, 15 in the morning, 14 hours into the energy and commerce markup.
29:11And I'm not going to lie.
29:13We're very tired.
29:16But we're still going.
29:20Well, that's pretty that's pretty amazing.
29:23Pregnant and that that for that many hours.
29:26That is not easy.
29:27Yeah, no, this was grueling.
29:28It was grueling.
29:29But it was it was all wacky.
29:31I thought, Raymond, like.
29:33So 3 a.m., you know, 3 a.m.
29:35was it AOC got into it with Congressman Randy Weber over Medicaid coverage for pregnancy.
29:43In terms of some of the exemptions, pregnancy is covered, correct?
29:48May I interrupt?
29:49I'm glad you're addressing us instead of speaking to the camera.
29:52Keep going.
29:53Pregnancy is covered, correct?
29:55Yeah.
29:56As an exemption?
29:58I have a question.
30:02Given the Dobbs decision and the fact that many women in many states are forced to be caring.
30:12I'm going to have to stop.
30:13I'm going to recline my time.
30:13OK.
30:14What about miscarriage?
30:15What about miscarriage?
30:16I'm reclaiming my time.
30:18I just want to make the point that we'd like for you to address the Republicans and let's
30:21have a dialogue this way and not to a camera.
30:24Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
30:26The gentleman yields back.
30:29But I'm asking the question.
30:30What about a miscarriage?
30:31The gentleman yields back.
30:32I'm trying to engage in the way that the gentleman.
30:33The lady is out of order.
30:35Speaking of where we are addressing and who we are addressing.
30:39There are 13.7 million Americans on the other side of that screen right there.
30:48Hello.
30:49Hello.
30:50I'm talking to you because I work for you.
30:53Will the gentle lady yield?
30:54I am talking to them and I will not yield because it was a terribly disrespectful comment
31:00and I will not yield to disrespectful men.
31:03Thank you very much.
31:04Laura, earlier you were talking about the leader, the people who are trying to jostle to be president
31:11of the United States.
31:12You just looked at the number one contender.
31:14Even at 3 a.m., she knows just where the camera is.
31:17Tom Cruise doesn't know where the lens is the way AOC does.
31:21I mean, and this lady knows how to make a scene even when she's talking about things.
31:25Suddenly now she's worried about pregnant women.
31:27That's a first.
31:28Well, something about that whole exchange seemed like it was, she was running for student
31:35council president.
31:36Didn't it seem kind of like a, and you did this and I did this and you know, it felt like
31:41a little bit of a high school deal to me.
31:44It didn't seem all that serious.
31:45It's play acting.
31:46Yeah, she's play acting.
31:47She's play acting being a leader.
31:48TikTok moments.
31:48Meanwhile, a very different TikTok moment was playing out at the Cannes Film Festival,
31:55Laura.
31:55Robert De Niro, after doing what appeared to be a love scene with Leonardo DiCaprio, accepted
32:01an honor at Cannes.
32:03He could not resist getting political.
32:05In my country, we're fighting like hell for the democracy we once took for granted.
32:13Art is a threat.
32:15But that's why we are a threat to autocrats and fascists.
32:21America's Philistine president has had himself appointed head of one of our premier cultural
32:26institutions.
32:28He has cut funding and support to the arts.
32:32It's time for everyone who cares about liberty to organize, to protest.
32:38And when there are elections, of course, to vote.
32:42Always the raging bull.
32:44Always the raging bull, right?
32:47Well, raging dull is more like it.
32:49Look, Laura, this is his worst performance since Dirty Grandpa.
32:52I mean, here they are giving him an acting award, okay?
32:55They're giving him an acting award, and he's rousing a foreign crowd to political activism.
33:02Robert, they can't vote in the United States.
33:05Why are you trying to get them to vote against Trump?
33:07You know, it strikes me as unpatriotic, Laura, and you don't trash your country and your president
33:14on foreign land.
33:15You want to speak out at home, do it all day long, accept your acting honor, make that
33:19face you always make, this one, and go home.
33:22Just go home.
33:23Raymond, he's starting to look like Walter Matthau, don't you?
33:28What are you talking about, Laura?
33:31I'm sorry.
33:32It's a pity Jack Lemmon isn't alive.
33:35They could do, you know, dirty old man or grumpy old man.
33:38The odd couple or the old ones.
33:41I'm sorry, Raymond, thank you.
33:43I'm not going to, that image is just too good.
33:46All right, thank you very much.
33:47And coming up, meet the nutty professors who are fleeing America.
33:56We always cheer when we see the celebrities say that they're leaving the United States
34:00because they just can't stand to be here with Trump as president.
34:04That's always good news.
34:05But now the New York Times says that they found a trio of Yale professors who say they're getting
34:12out of Dodge, too.
34:13The Times is calling the piece, we study fascism and we're leaving the U.S.
34:19The lesson of 1933 is you get out sooner rather than later.
34:24I've spent a lot of time in the last decade trying to prepare people if Trump were elected
34:29once, let alone twice.
34:31I'm leaving to the University of Toronto because I want to do my work without the fear that
34:38I will be punished for my words.
34:41Hmm, brother.
34:42Should have been drama professors.
34:44No, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
34:46Here to react, Buck Sexton, co-host of The Clay and Buck Show and John Justice, host of
34:50Twin Cities News Talk.
34:52Clay, let's start with you.
34:55Isn't this fascism talk getting tiresome, especially when we have a president who is working 24-7
35:03for peace in the Middle East and around the world?
35:08Yeah, I think that they're not very good professors, which is not a surprise.
35:12Also, I think emotional stability is not something that they would particularly excel at.
35:17This is, it's hilarious.
35:18It is self-selection also.
35:20Great.
35:21Let's send more PhDs with tenure who suffer from final stage Trump derangement syndrome
35:27into other countries as fast as, please, self-deport.
35:31That would be a fantastic option because as you alluded to, this is the best first year
35:37of any presidency in our lifetime.
35:40And this is not going to change anytime soon.
35:43And fascists generally don't talk about peace, prosperity, trade deals, and making things
35:49great for all people in this country and around the world to the degree it's possible.
35:52So yeah, I just think they're out of their minds.
35:54And Buck, you don't look at all like Clay, so I apologize that that was in the script.
35:59Sorry about that.
36:00Sorry about that.
36:01I apologize to Clay and to Buck and to the whole show.
36:04All right, John, one of the professors in this says that, well, he didn't leave because
36:10of Trump, but it would be a reasonable thing to do if someone wanted to do that.
36:15And his wife, another professor in the piece, told us that they made the decision to leave
36:20before the election.
36:22So, John, that kind of begs the question, why would they even participate in the New
36:27York Times piece, the framing of the piece that way?
36:29And perhaps they wrote a letter to the New York Times saying, why did you imply that we
36:34were leaving because of Trump?
36:35It all seems a little suspicious.
36:39Yeah, the whole thing seems like a stretch, right?
36:42But it also shows that even those in, you know, in academia are still stuck in their
36:48bubbles of delusion.
36:50They're so willing to completely ignore the legality, the context and the reality of what
36:56Trump is trying to accomplish that they decided they're going to Canada to escape authoritarianism
37:02and fascism.
37:03Like, good luck with that.
37:04And, you know, one other point on this, too, is that these individuals, I assume, got into
37:09being professors and teachers to teach the next generations.
37:13And so they're worried about the future of America.
37:16And yet they're leaving America instead of staying here and preparing the next generation
37:22to deal with what they're so scared of right now.
37:26Just, I mean, at this point in time, make it make sense because it just really doesn't.
37:29Yeah, well, they don't want to be questioned.
37:31That's really it, right?
37:32But they don't want to be questioned.
37:34They don't want to have any accountability for their lousy scholarship and their tedious
37:38old theories that have been discredited for decades.
37:40OK, well, so, but Buck, we, Buck, just to make you really happy tonight, because I know
37:46you guys are close.
37:48We have a Rosie O'Donnell update all the way from Ireland.
37:51Watch.
37:51I asked him if I could get Xanax, because, you know, Xanax to sleep is fantastic.
37:58You take one, it puts you to sleep.
37:59And to me, I sleep the whole night.
38:05I guess we sadly lost Rosie's voice there, but she's having trouble sleeping.
38:10I guess at one point I thought she was considering coming back to the United States or moving
38:16from where she is.
38:17But she's under enormous stress, Buck, even though she left for a utopian paradise over
38:23there in Ireland.
38:25Yeah, I have to say these people, and you just mentioned this a moment ago, they care so much
38:31about democracy that the moment it's really under threat in their minds, they have to flee
38:35and go somewhere else.
38:37I think that's hilarious.
38:38Look, I do believe that at some level, there's a huge crossover.
38:42I'm not a psychiatrist.
38:43I'm not playing one on your show.
38:44But there is a crossover between people that I think lack purpose, have some kind of anxiety
38:49disorder, and are very left-wing and think that Trump is destroying the planet.
38:53I also think they don't know the definition of or the history of fascism, nor could they
38:58in any way square that with the reality of the great things that we see going on in America
39:02today.
39:03So Trump is not tired of winning, and they are not tired of crying.
39:06Well, excellent point.
39:08And John, the idea that Trump is a tyrannical leader is so hilarious, given the diversity
39:17of people he meets with.
39:19He'll meet with anybody to try to make progress for the United States and for peace.
39:22We've already established that.
39:23That's clear.
39:24But the idea that the most tyrannical place on the planet, which is a college campus,
39:30is complaining about tyranny.
39:32How many conservatives are elevated on an annual basis at any of these schools in any
39:37capacity?
39:38Forget tenure, any position, janitor.
39:42Well, exactly.
39:44And listen, the problem right now, and this is what's lost on them, it's not that Trump
39:48and the Trump administration right now is enforcing the law.
39:51That's not the problem.
39:52The problem is, is that Joe Biden and the Joe Biden administration for four years didn't
39:57enforce the law, and people just became so accustomed to getting away with so many different
40:02things that they simply can't handle it now.
40:05Yeah, zero accountability.
40:06They don't want any questions.
40:08They want no accountability.
40:09Buck, sorry about the name again.
40:11Give my best to Clay and John.
40:13Thank you both.
40:14All right.
40:15Jesse Waters is up next.
40:16Make sure to tune in.
40:18And remember, it's America now and forever.
40:19See you on Instagram.
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