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SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES with Maria Bartiromo (Full Episode) | May 18, 2025
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00:00Good Sunday morning, everyone.
00:07Thank you so much for joining us.
00:09Welcome to Sunday Morning Futures.
00:10I'm Maria Bartiromo.
00:12High praise for President Trump's Middle Eastern trip and his efforts to create peace across
00:16the world.
00:18More trade deals expected this upcoming week.
00:20But we begin this Sunday morning with increasing calls to investigate and possibly arrest Jim
00:26Comey.
00:27After the former FBI director posted an image on social media suggesting a call to assassinate
00:33President Trump, Comey was interviewed by the Secret Service on Friday and is now facing
00:39a string of federal probes.
00:42After he posted an image of a beach scene with seashells arranged in the numbers 8647,
00:49writing this, cool shell formation on my beach walk.
00:53The number 86 typically refers to elimination.
00:56And President Trump is, of course, the 47th president.
00:59After much public outcry on social media, Comey took down the post claiming he was not
01:04aware that 86 refers to eliminating something and that he opposes violence.
01:10There have already been two assassination attempts on President Trump's life, which
01:14are still under investigation by the FBI.
01:17After the incident, new FBI Director Kash Patel told me he is in the middle of an active
01:23investigation into this matter.
01:26Days earlier, the two walked us through Comey's weaponization of the FBI, Kash Patel and Dan
01:32Bongino, as well as some of the other important cases that they are working on, including
01:37drug and human trafficking cells operating in America today, the events of January 6th
01:42and Jeffrey Epstein's death.
01:45But the director began by praising his 30,000 plus colleagues at the FBI during this National
01:51Police Week.
01:55It's Police Week, Maria.
01:57And so it's a really momentous occasion for law enforcement, for the sacrifice they put
02:01in for the country.
02:02The deputy and I have been going to events all week and, you know, the most painful part
02:06is being with the families of the fallen.
02:08But we're here to remind America that there's a consequence to the freedom that they have.
02:12And there's good men and women that keep stepping up for that fight.
02:15So, you know, it's a big deal that you're here on Police Week.
02:19We have a question on our wall, and I want to walk past that with you.
02:21I unfortunately was on Wall Street on 9-11, and my heart goes out to the families who've
02:27lost their loved ones.
02:28Dan?
02:29Yeah, 9-11.
02:30I was an agent on 9-11 with the Secret Service, and I just remember, as you probably do, from
02:35the media perspective, the chaos.
02:37Remember, nothing worked like we thought it was going to work.
02:40So the director and I, we've both been deeply inspired, obviously, by, as everyone in America
02:44was by that tragic, horrible incident.
02:48But I know when Cash and I are sitting there in the morning, that is the single motivating
02:52factor for us, is keep the homeland safe.
02:55That is priority number one.
02:57And I want to ask you about that, and I'll go into some of the specifics.
03:01But Director, you've said many times that the FBI has been politicized.
03:06So what are your plans to rebuild trust in this fine institution and depoliticize the
03:11FBI?
03:12So we have a multi-part process.
03:15First of all, our priorities, simple, crush violent crime, defend the homeland, rigorous
03:21organizational accountability, and the fourth, which leads directly to your question, aggressive
03:26constitutional oversight with Congress.
03:28The way we rebuild trust is, we already have the men and women here in the rank and file
03:33that signed up to be cops, that signed up to be intel analysts, that signed up to be
03:36special support staff, that want to do the work.
03:39That's why we're sending them into the field.
03:41We can talk about that later.
03:42What we need America to know is that this place was politicized, and Congress has rightfully
03:48requested the documents from Crossfire Hurricane to January 6th to the Richmond Catholic Memo
03:53and so much more.
03:54But now, finally, Americans are reading for themselves the documentation where a very
03:59select few leaders in the former FBI decided to politicize it.
04:04We don't need me and the deputy telling you it's politicized.
04:06We want the American people to read it, and now they are.
04:08And I know, I lived with it for you.
04:11I watched it with you and Devin Nunes when you were truth-tellers on all of this, and
04:16you were as well, Deb, throughout the Russia collusion story and the rest.
04:20Look, I can speak to the folks that were in our seats, our predecessors, and they intentionally
04:25failed the American public by putting on the biggest D.C. deception game we've ever seen.
04:30They said the FBI was the most storied institution for law enforcement, and it was, and it will
04:36be again very soon.
04:38But when the likes of Comey and McCabe and Strzok and company came in here with the James
04:42Bakers of the world and intentionally lied to a federal court only to rig a presidential
04:48election by lying to the American public and using taxpayer dollars, likely illegally,
04:53to fund this entire operation and then withhold exculpatory information from a federal court
04:58that I used to peer-dwarf to manhunt terrorists, that's what broke the FBI.
05:03And then when they were caught, they lied about it, and you and a few others like Dan
05:07and others were brave enough to cover it six, seven, eight years ago, and we're still talking
05:12about it today because as Congress is working rigorously with us, the crossfire hurricane
05:16documents are coming fast and hard, and they're being sent there unredacted so we can have
05:21full accountability.
05:23And that's how you restore what the trust that was lost to the American public when
05:28it comes to the FBI.
05:29Yeah, but come on, Director, with all due respect, we've been talking about this for
05:32a long time, and I've been demanding accountability for many, many years.
05:36One of the, you mentioned Comey, Strzok, and the rest, they've got TV shows, they've got
05:40media platforms, they're fine, there's been no accountability.
05:44Well, look, it's a fair criticism, but what I will tell people is we weren't here in the
05:48FBI in the last five years when we had statute of limitations that were still in play, where
05:53we could have investigated criminal conduct.
05:55Most of these statute of limitations are five years old, and we will investigate criminal
05:59conduct where we find a righteous case to do so, and the law and the facts allow us
06:04to.
06:05But a lot of it we're precluded from.
06:06So we'll take the criticism, and it's rightfully so, that could we have done more in the past?
06:10Sure, people before us could have, but what we can do now is continue to put out the documents
06:17and the information that these people withheld from the American public.
06:19And I'm just telling you right now, as much as we know about crossfire hurricane, he and
06:23I just found out more last week, and we're continuing to work with Congress to put those
06:28documents out.
06:29That's how vindictive and vicious the former leadership structure here was.
06:33Not only did they bastardize the FISA process and lie to the American public, they withheld
06:38and hid documentation and put it in rooms where people weren't supposed to look.
06:42And it's a good thing we're here now to clean it up, and you're about to see a wave of transparency.
06:46What do you mean?
06:48Just give us about a week or two.
06:49Okay.
06:50Well, I can tell you right now that the judge that gave a smack on the wrist on the one
06:57agent that lied and, you know, misled the American people, that's the same judge who's
07:02back and stopping Donald Trump from doing things, isn't it?
07:06Judge Boasberg?
07:07Yeah.
07:08I just got to push back.
07:09Listen, we've been here two months.
07:11He's been here a couple more weeks than that.
07:13I mean, we've been here two months.
07:15You're dealing with a 38,000-member organization and an approximately $12 billion budget, where
07:27to expect us in two months to dig up what was a eight-year, maybe longer, multi-year
07:34politicized investigation with multiple layers of processes, from Woods procedures being
07:40just thrown in the garbage can and flushed down the toilet bowl to multiple layers of
07:44accountability where people lied and obfuscated.
07:48I'm not asking you to trust me.
07:50You want this done right or you want it done quickly?
07:53Because you can't have it both ways.
07:55You want it done quickly?
07:56We'll do it.
07:57Do you know what happened?
07:58Just what happened last time.
07:59Those same spygate collusion perpetrators sued the government, got money, got all this.
08:04You want that?
08:05We'll do it.
08:06We'll do it quickly and do it wrong.
08:07But are you saying you found things that even you didn't know about?
08:10I mean, you were at the core of this.
08:13Yes.
08:14Yes.
08:15I was the lead Russiagate investigator for the House Intelligence Committee.
08:18And I've been on both your shows in a prior life talking about it.
08:21And I'm telling you and the American public that we have now found material and information
08:27and people who wanted to hide it from the world since we got in these seats.
08:31And we, as the deputy said, we are trying to do it in a fashion where not only are we
08:37informing the American public of what happened, but we can have accountability for it.
08:41And that takes a little bit more time.
08:44And when you layer on the fact that we are rolling out our priorities on violent crime
08:47and defending the homeland, you know, we're running a three part animal here and we're
08:51going 100 miles an hour on each single one.
08:54So important.
08:55Yeah.
08:56I want to add to that, too, is what the director is saying is right.
08:58You got to remember, we come in in the morning.
09:00There's a portfolio of 100 level 10 items.
09:04If it's a level nine, which is a pretty big freaking deal, someone else fixed it.
09:09The only thing that gets to my desk or his is a level 10.
09:13That's the entire day.
09:14Look at his schedule.
09:15Any given day.
09:16I'll show you the palm card I have.
09:18It is filled from seven thirty to he leaves seven at night, six thirty at night.
09:23It's filled all day.
09:24We just can't focus on one thing.
09:26You want New York to go boom, D.C. to go boom.
09:29You want an O.C. organization to go hack into some cyber network and crack all of Fox News's
09:34holdings.
09:35We're dealing with all that stuff, too.
09:37Everything's a priority.
09:38Everything's a priority.
09:39This is one of many things we did.
09:40It's not an excuse.
09:41It's just reality.
09:42Now, the Democrats are turning on you.
09:44All right.
09:45I saw your hearing the other day and critics have accused you of using the FBI to target
09:49political enemies.
09:51So set the record straight.
09:53You wrote an entire book about it.
09:54Government gangsters.
09:55Tell us, how do you respond to the attacks?
09:58Very simply, the FBI's prior leadership left us an institution that is a police force for
10:05America and the world that allowed a fentanyl overdose to occur and kill an American citizen
10:10every seven minutes.
10:12That prior FBI's leadership, Comey, McCabe, left us an FBI that allowed for a woman or
10:18child to be raped every six and a half minutes in this country.
10:21That same leadership structure left us an FBI that permitted a man or woman to be killed
10:28twice an hour in this country.
10:30That's our response to them.
10:31When I go to Congress and I go to the Hill, I say, hey, I'm not policing your neighborhood
10:35because it's a Republican or Democratic.
10:37I'm asking you for help on what your priorities are and what your resources needs are and
10:41where you need training.
10:42And we're going to send them to you.
10:43That's why we're putting 1,500 FBI employees into the field and outside of Washington,
10:47D.C.
10:48Now, if the Democrats want to play politics with that, they're the elected officials.
10:52They get to say what they want.
10:54But yelling at me and Bongino, we could take it all day long.
10:57I don't even understand why.
10:59Why did they do that?
11:00I mean, why put the FBI and its reputation at risk?
11:04What, it was just just to win an election?
11:06Why?
11:07Because they're weak.
11:08Because they're weak.
11:10I hate weak people.
11:11I can't stand it.
11:12They didn't have.
11:13We're on TV, so I already said BS once.
11:17But they didn't have the guts, the courage or the character to do the right thing.
11:22They did the easy thing.
11:23Donald Trump became a convenient political football they use.
11:27They thought they could leverage.
11:29They thought they'd get they thought with the media on their side that they'd get away
11:33with it.
11:34I know that there are cells, you know, drug trafficking cells and human trafficking cells.
11:39How significant is this in America?
11:42It's everywhere.
11:43I mean, when you open up the border, like, look, that's not a political statement.
11:46The border was open for four years.
11:49So what happens is crime metastasizes.
11:51What happens is you have hundreds of thousands of illegals come across and a bunch of them
11:56are really bad criminals.
11:57Not all of them, but a bunch of them.
11:59And then they nest into societies.
12:01And this is why we're rolling out Mexican street gang task forces across the country,
12:06because it's not the international gangs that are just the problem.
12:10It's these inner city gangs that exist in one or two towns here and there and have metastasized
12:15and taken over the drug trade, the sex trafficking trade, the child force label trade and the
12:20gang trade.
12:21They are all in.
12:22And no one has been focusing on them because our cities and our elected leadership has
12:27allowed them to live without being policed.
12:32But that's over now that Dan and I are in the seat.
12:35This is so scary.
12:36And what do you want to say to families out there, mothers who are afraid for their young
12:39girls that they may get taken?
12:43I want to put everyone at ease watching this today.
12:46There is, I hate cliches, but there really is a new sheriff in town.
12:51His name is Donald J. Trump.
12:53This administration, in conjunction with General Bondi and our director, Kash Patel, I am in
12:59the briefing, Maria, with the five of us, Emil, the PDAG, Todd, the DAG, AG, Kash and
13:05me every morning over at DOJ.
13:08The attitude every morning from the president on down, he, the president, United States
13:14wants this FBI to be able to in one month, six months, a year or two years, wants to
13:21be able to get out in front of the American people and say your lives are noticeably different.
13:28He doesn't want fairy tales, Aesop's fables.
13:31He doesn't want any of that stuff.
13:32He wants people to be able to touch it and feel it.
13:35I don't care if you're in Stewart, Florida or Harlem, New York.
13:39He wants you to walk outside and say, wow, my neighborhood does look different.
13:44Where are the biggest cells in the country and how does it work?
13:49Are there spotters?
13:50Like, how does it work?
13:52It's based on a variety of factors.
13:53So when it comes to trafficking, you've got to look at the interstate system and look
13:56at the intersections of the interstate system running through the Midwest and across the
14:01country.
14:03You've got to look for hard evidence.
14:04I didn't know this till my confirmation process, but Memphis, Tennessee is the homicide capital
14:10of America per capita.
14:12Didn't know that.
14:13We have a problem there.
14:14We're now addressing it.
14:15We're rolling out one of our task forces in the state of Tennessee, but we also know that
14:18Ohio possesses the roadway system where the trafficking is through the roof just because
14:24of the interstate.
14:25So you have to get out there in the field, not just let the FBI agents and Intel folks
14:29get out there and do the work, but partner with state and local law enforcement, which
14:34is a priority, and tribal law enforcement.
14:36That's a big, big deal for us.
14:38We are not forgetting about Indian country.
14:40They suffer from the same violent crime that we do in the rest of America, and we're going
14:44to help them.
14:45And that's how you learn the ground-based level facts that you need to deploy your assets.
14:49We're not coming up with anything fancy.
14:52We're just attacking the problem, but we're smart enough to go after the information and
14:56say, that's where the problem is because you told us it's there.
14:59Now we know we're going.
15:01That's interesting.
15:02What about the big cities?
15:03I mean, we've heard about Trinidad and Aragua being in New York City.
15:06We're about to ruin your summer if you're a bad guy.
15:08So I'm just warning you now, like don't buy movie tickets because you're probably not
15:12going to cash them in.
15:13So the director and I put something together in conjunction with our DOJ partners, General
15:18Bondi and Dag Blanche, actually this morning.
15:22And if you're a violent criminal, this FBI under our leadership, we don't care who gets
15:28the credit.
15:29All we care about is making your streets safer, actually safer.
15:36Coming up, the assassination attempts on President Trump's life.
15:39Why don't we know more today, more than a year later, as we continue our exclusive from
15:44the FBI.
15:53Welcome back.
15:54President Trump is proposing spending cuts across most federal agencies, including the
15:58FBI.
15:59As we continue our exclusive interview, FBI Director Kash Patel told me the FBI's real
16:04estate portfolio is about to shrink dramatically, but the mission will not change.
16:12I want to get to a few specifics, and I know you can't talk about any active investigation.
16:16So we are and our viewers understand that.
16:18But how come we don't have more information on the assassination attempts on President
16:22Trump?
16:24There's two reasons, two open ongoing prosecutions.
16:29So two of the investigations are obviously closed because the individuals are dead.
16:35But there's two live prosecutions.
16:38And so we can't get ahead of the federal court case.
16:42A lot of that information will come out in the federal court cases.
16:46But we have personally invested our time in making sure that we have looked at all the
16:51any possible international connections to terrorism and adversaries alike.
16:55And we've both been down to Quantico.
16:57We've both done the laboratory testing.
16:59We've both seen the explosives analysis.
17:01We've both seen the firearm and physically held it.
17:03We are all in on these investigations.
17:05Are we going to be surprised at what you learned?
17:09You know what, Maria?
17:12Cash is not kidding.
17:14We've been personally briefed extensively on every single detail, nugget, tendril of
17:20this case.
17:21One is actively in court right now.
17:23So out of respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that.
17:28However, I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear.
17:31I'm going to tell you the truth.
17:32And whether whether you like it or not is up to you.
17:35If there was a big explosive there, they're right.
17:38Given my history as a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship as a director does
17:43with the president, give me one logical, sensible reason we would not have.
17:49If you can think of one, there isn't.
17:50There isn't there in some of these cases that there you're looking for is not there.
17:55And I know people I get it.
17:58I understand it's not there.
18:02If it was there, we would have told you.
18:03Well, the other issue that's been talked about recently is this mortgage fraud and the FBI
18:09opening a formal case against Letitia James.
18:13So again, ongoing cases.
18:15And we take our ongoing investigations very seriously because we don't want to do what
18:22our predecessors did, which is talk about them ad infinitum in the public.
18:26And then nothing happens.
18:28This case, I can tell you, is being handled by our professional pros who are subject matter
18:35experts reporting directly to headquarters, which reports to Dan and I, this case, along
18:40with others, because it is a case of great public importance.
18:43And unlike other leaders who previously sat in these seats, we don't prejudge any case.
18:48We don't care what party elected you to what.
18:51It doesn't matter to us.
18:52It's irrelevant.
18:53If you broke the law, we are going to find out and we are going to investigate you.
18:57And then we are going to discuss that matter with the Department of Justice.
19:00And this is one of the things that if your viewers take away nothing else from this interview,
19:05the FBI does not make prosecutorial decisions.
19:07You asked in the beginning how the FBI was weaponized.
19:10Well, the FBI hijacked the constitutional responsibility of the Department of Justice,
19:13the attorney general, and James Comey and others specifically decided what cases to
19:17prosecute and not prosecute.
19:19Don't believe me?
19:20Go to the videotape in the Hillary Clinton investigation.
19:22We don't decide prosecutions and neither does any agent or intel analyst.
19:26We have great partners under General Bondi.
19:28We've worked with them and discussed the matter with them.
19:30But the prosecutorial decision is with them.
19:32So is there a directive now to focus on fighting real crime?
19:37Look at illegal migration.
19:39Look at the sex trafficking and scale back on the white collar business type crime?
19:44I don't want to say that we were going to quote unquote scale back.
19:47What we do is we look at the intelligence and we rely on our 36,000 employees to say
19:52this is where stuff's going wrong.
19:54But right now, the reality of where stuff's going wrong more, more than counterterrorism,
19:58which is my wheelhouse and my background, is the narcotics industry and the sex trafficking
20:03industry.
20:04So there's more and more resources put on that and on the removal proceedings, which
20:07we're working with our partners at DHS on.
20:09That's just the reality today.
20:10But that's not to say we're forgetting about white collar crime and counterterrorism.
20:14That's what you said.
20:15You said if you're hurting a child, taking away a child's innocence, we're coming for
20:19you.
20:20Yeah.
20:21We knock at the door.
20:22It's on Amazon.
20:23That's going to be us.
20:24This is a huge job.
20:25And Maria, not only does it destroy innocence, I said to everyone in the room, say week
20:29two or three when Cash and I put Restoring Justice together to go get these mutts off
20:33the street, these kiddie pornographers and these these animals.
20:36Right.
20:37And I said to everyone in the room, I said, you know, why is it going to matter to America?
20:40Because everyone in the room is a child or a parent.
20:42Right.
20:43There's no immaculate conceptions here.
20:44Right.
20:45I love Jesus.
20:46But there's no one in the room.
20:47Right.
20:48I said, this matters.
20:49And not only that, it creates generational crime because abused kids then become abusers
20:53in a lot of these cases.
20:55I said, we have a chance right now.
20:56I said, we got to go make their lives painful.
20:58These bad guys.
20:59And we went and we locked up in a month, what, 400?
21:02We saved 115 kids.
21:04And you haven't even seen the beginning because those 400, a lot of them are talking.
21:09And when you log on to that network next, you have no idea what we're doing.
21:13You think you're safe in your dark web.
21:16I promise you are absolutely not safe.
21:18You have no idea what we can do.
21:20Are you seeing an increase in the number of potential agents wanting to come in and work
21:26with you?
21:27Look, the FBI is 38000 when we're fully manned, which we're not.
21:30In the national capital region, in the 50 mile radius around Washington, D.C., there
21:33were 11,000 FBI employees.
21:35That's like a third of the workforce.
21:36A third of the crime doesn't happen here.
21:38So we're taking 1500 of those folks and moving them out.
21:40Every state's getting a plus up.
21:42And I think when we do things like that, we inspire folks in America to become Intel analysts
21:47and agents and say, we want to go work at the FBI because we want to go fight violent
21:50crime and we want to get sent out into the country to do it.
21:53And that's what we're doing in the next three, six, nine months.
21:55We're going to do that hard.
21:57And you know, I didn't know that I was going to do this, but I'm going to announce it on
22:00your show anyway.
22:01This FBI is leaving the Hoover building because this building is unsafe for our workforce.
22:05And we just gave up a big nugget.
22:07We want but we want the American men and women to know if you're going to come work at the
22:12premier law enforcement agency in the world, we're going to give you a building that's
22:15commensurate with that.
22:16And that's not this place.
22:17I mean, the Trump administration has proposed a 500 million dollar cut to the FBI's funding
22:23for 2026.
22:25How are you going to maintain the effectiveness if you don't have the resources?
22:29You got to get smart and stop wasting money.
22:31We got to stop thinking up fantasies in Maryland and building five billion dollar new buildings.
22:36We have people who are able to do the job on the budgets we're given.
22:41And we are going to work with the president, his team, because he and his team know they
22:46have to budget for an entire government.
22:47I just got to worry about one agency.
22:49So does he.
22:50And their job is 10 times harder than ours.
22:52They have to say DOD's got to get this.
22:54What about D.O.T.?
22:55What about Justice and Marshals?
22:57And what about Treasury?
22:58So we know that they are smartly putting together a budget and we also know that there's ramifications
23:03from people here that weaponize this place and a cost to that.
23:07We're always going to fight for our personnel and for as much money as we can get.
23:12But I think when we show you real time examples of getting out of places like this, because
23:19just to fix this building would cost billions of dollars only for a couple of years of runway.
23:24It shows you that we're serious about saving and being good stewards of the taxpayer dollars
23:29and hiring more agents instead of building new buildings.
23:32So what are your colleagues saying about this, that you're going to get out of the Hoover
23:35building?
23:36Well, he's he's a man of his word.
23:37I mean, he said that he was interested in shutting down Hoover.
23:40And I don't think people took him seriously.
23:43And it's been two months.
23:44And I think it's good that he broke it on your show, because me and him were on the
23:47tour yesterday of an alternate facility where the building we're looking at.
23:51And everyone was taking pictures and they knew something was up because me and him were
23:54there.
23:55So that's good.
23:56You guys got it first.
23:57But Cash could have made a pretty easy decision, which is go up to Congress and say, hey, you
24:01know what?
24:02We're going to go back and ask for this billion dollar new facility.
24:05And you know what he said?
24:07He said, go find this a place already up and running.
24:09We can go in.
24:10We're going to it's going to need some upgrades, you know, skiffs where we can talk safes,
24:14that kind of thing.
24:15Obviously, some security upgrades in the front.
24:17We are saving the taxpayer a fortune.
24:19So you're going to move one thousand employees from Washington to field offices across the
24:24country.
24:25Fifteen hundred.
24:26Fifteen hundred.
24:27We are.
24:28We are already launched that plan.
24:29And we've looked at they're going to Alabama.
24:31Well, so Redstone Arsenal is one of the crown jewels of the FBI.
24:35And it's a it's on a military campus of thirty eight thousand acres in Huntsville, Alabama.
24:41And the FBI built five new buildings there and a kinetic cyber training facility, a long
24:45range facility, our terrorism explosive device centers there.
24:50So when you go and you want to become a new FBI agent, we send you to Quantico when you're
24:52in the job for a couple of years and you need advanced training, you go to Huntsville.
24:56And because we've had new buildings and new structures already there, we need our outdated
25:02facilities and personnel to move to Huntsville, where the training has been set up for them
25:07and fill those seats.
25:08We don't need to build new buildings elsewhere.
25:11So a chunk of them are going there because it's essentially headquarters to, for lack
25:15of a better word.
25:16But the rest of the folks we've looked at the map and we said, where are the worst crime
25:20spots in America?
25:21That's how we're choosing where the agents and intel folks go.
25:25Then our leaders in the field are working with state, local and tribal leaders to say,
25:28hey, we've got a serious problem on Navajo or we've got a big deal going on outside of
25:33Chicago.
25:35Those agents and intel analysts are going there at their direction based on ground level
25:39intelligence.
25:40You want to make your promotions, go make cases in the field and you're getting promoted
25:44under this leadership structure.
25:45You don't have to come to Washington.
25:47One of the biggest cost saving things we did was we ended this TDY boondoggle to DC that
25:53has been institutionalized by prior leadership mandating you come here.
25:57And here's the kicker.
25:58Not only do you get your salary, you get a per diem TDY for your entire 18 month tour.
26:02That's over.
26:06Next up, what really happened on January 6th and who really should be held accountable
26:12right after this?
26:15What actually happened on January 6th?
26:24So there is, as it seems that I find myself in a similar situation as Rush again, because
26:31on January 6th and the prior Trump administration, I was a chief of staff to the Department of
26:35Defense.
26:36And I spent four years and a minor fortune litigating the truth because people politicized
26:40what actually happened on January 6th.
26:43We now know unequivocally that President Trump lawfully authorized the deployment of National
26:49Guard and me as the head of the Office of Secretary of Defense with the Secretary of
26:52Defense took that action.
26:55When it finally came in, because it had to have the governor and mayor of DC's approval
27:01on it, that's the way the law works.
27:03And once it finally came in on January 6th, remember we offered to them days beforehand
27:07and they rejected it.
27:08We've put out the letters and your show has done great coverage showing how it was rejected.
27:12We mobilized the fastest coal start in Washington, DC since World War II and the largest occupation
27:17of DC by the National Guard since the American Revolution.
27:20That's what happened on January 6th.
27:21But what you and your viewers want to know now that we've beat back that disinformation
27:26campaign with actual truth is what was the FBI doing?
27:29Well, we got answers coming.
27:31We just found a trove of information and it's on its way to Capitol Hill right now.
27:35And they've asked and they're getting them and you're getting answers on January 6th.
27:39You're getting answers on what sourcing was utilized, what money was utilized, how many
27:44assets were utilized, who made those decisions.
27:47You're getting it.
27:48We can only control the FBI, but you're getting it from the FBI.
27:51Were there FBI agents undercover egging people on?
27:56Like I said, that answer is coming and it's on its way to Congress.
28:01You're about to.
28:03I saw it.
28:04I saw the portfolio of information.
28:07We dug far and wide to find it.
28:10And I'm pretty sure now we have a conclusive, definitive answer.
28:15But you, you and the public are going to have it.
28:17You're going to see it in writing over to Capitol Hill.
28:21But I just want to be sure we're clear, having been an agent and a police officer, there
28:25is a difference between an agent.
28:28I know you know this.
28:29I don't mean to sound ridiculous.
28:31An agent, meaning a trained GS 1811 federal agent and a source or an asset.
28:39There's a difference.
28:40So when you see the material, which I promise you is coming again, I'm not asking you to
28:44trust us.
28:45I know it's coming because I saw it yesterday.
28:47When you see it, I, I just want you to understand that, that it's not an apology for anything.
28:53But there's a difference between agents and assets.
28:55And I just hope when people put that information out there, they make the distinction, not
29:00that it's better or worse, but there's a distinction there.
29:03It's a very important distinction.
29:04And I want to level set here.
29:06I want the American public to go back and look at what our predecessors stated to Congress
29:11under oath, that there were no FBI sources utilized in and around January 6th.
29:16I'm going to leave it at that, but go play the videotape and look for this material coming
29:20to Congress.
29:21You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
29:25People don't believe it.
29:26Well, I mean, listen.
29:27They have a right to their opinion.
29:30But as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that
29:34prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated
29:38housing, um, you know, a suicide when you see one.
29:41And that's what that was.
29:42He killed himself again.
29:45You want me to, I've, I've, I've seen the whole file.
29:48He killed himself.
29:49I know it's hard work, but you promoted Steven Jensen, the architect of the FBI's overzealous
29:55January 6th investigation.
29:57I want the American public to realize what we did.
30:00That man was in a position where he literally fought back against the machine who was saying,
30:07we want to politicize this event.
30:10We want to politicize this event.
30:11And at the end of the day, remember Maria, there's a chain of command here, so you can
30:15fight back your chain of command to a certain degree before they fire you.
30:19And Steve Jensen and other folks were promoted because they embody what the American public
30:27demands of FBI agents.
30:29To get to the bottom of something like January 6th and the pipe bomber case, for example,
30:33you need three things.
30:34You need people, you need information, and you need people with information.
30:39I'll allow the public to put that together and just wait and you'll see.
30:44Nothing we're doing, nothing is by accident.
30:48People who are quote unquote supposedly on the side of reporting truthfully should take
30:53a look at this instance.
30:55Because they are setting up circular firing squads, and Dan and I have already told the
30:58FBI, every employee that acted appropriately, we are going to defend you to the hill, literally,
31:04no matter the consequences.
31:06But for the media who's gone through the disinformation cycle of Russiagate, of January 6th, for them
31:13to come in here and take the clickbait and write articles based on half-truths doesn't
31:19hurt us.
31:20I'll tell you something I didn't think we were going to get into today, but every morning
31:23we tell our leadership cadre when we sit down with them, nothing written in the media is
31:29going to affect him or me.
31:32Look, you said illegal alien criminals and child predators are next in your ongoing crackdown.
31:38Oh yeah.
31:39How are you going to do it?
31:41The illegal immigration problem with 20 million people came in, yeah, okay, most of them probably
31:47were here to work, but a lot of them weren't.
31:49They were here to traffic in kids and fentanyl.
31:51If you were here illegally, the administration's approach, which the director and I have actioned
31:57through the agents in the field, is, listen, I'm speaking a bit hyperbolically, but correct
32:02me if I'm wrong, you're the lawyer.
32:04We're giving you about five minutes to cooperate.
32:06If you're here illegally, five minutes, you're out.
32:10We're going to violate AEA, whatever we've got.
32:12We're not wasting an agent who's making a decent salary, who we train.
32:17We're not wasting three weeks of his time to beg you for information for a profit.
32:22We're not.
32:23We're kicking you out.
32:24The president's going to seal the border.
32:25In the first two, three months that we've been in the seat under Donald Trump's administration,
32:29he has sealed the border.
32:30He has stopped border crossings.
32:31So where's all the fentanyl coming from still?
32:33Where's the trafficking coming from still?
32:36Where are all the narco-traffickers going to keep bringing this stuff into the country?
32:41The northern border.
32:43Our adversaries have partnered up with the CCP and others, Russia, Iran, on a variety
32:48of different criminal enterprises, and they're going and they're sailing around to Vancouver
32:53and coming in by air.
32:54And the sheer tyranny of distance of the northern border and the lack of cooperation from federal
32:59authorities and prior administrations to actually firm up that northern border is what's causing
33:04a continuation of violent crime.
33:06Now, we're focused on it and we're calling our state and local law enforcement partners
33:09up there.
33:10But you know who has to get to step in is Canada, because they're making it up there
33:14and shipping it down here.
33:16And I don't care about getting into this debate about making someone the 51st state or not,
33:21but they are our partner in the north.
33:23And say what you want about Mexico, but they helped us seal the southern border.
33:27The facts speak for themselves.
33:28The border that's open, I'll give you a statistic that I gave to Congress that nobody was paying
33:31attention to.
33:32There were 300 known or suspected terrorists crossed into this country last year illegally.
33:36Known or suspected terrorists, not illegals, not just illegals, known or suspected terrorists.
33:42Eighty five percent of them came in through the northern border.
33:45This year, a hundred known or suspected terrorists have crossed into this country illegally.
33:51Sixty four north and north.
33:53General, we've hit on so much today and I really appreciate your time.
33:56I'm so happy that we were able to sit down with you so your viewers can see it.
34:00We're not doing a lot of media and we're going to continue to not do a lot of media.
34:04But you have reported truthfully for years, even when it wasn't popular, when it wasn't
34:09fun, when it cost you money and when it cost you personally.
34:12So that's why we welcomed you to the Hoover building.
34:14We welcome.
34:15Yes, we do have an indoor shooting range, which will get you to soon.
34:18But we really appreciate you having the audacity to continue to report the truth.
34:26And we'll be right back with reaction from former House Intelligence Committee Chairman
34:30Devin Nunes.
34:31Next.
34:32Stay with us.
34:38Welcome back.
34:39Throughout the years, 2016 through 2020, then House Intelligence Committee chairman and
34:44later ranking member Devin Nunes joined me regularly on this program, largely to discuss
34:49two stories, Russia and the made up Russia collusion story and the threat of China.
34:55In fact, Devin unveiled his so-called Nunes memo right here in 2018, which outlined the
35:00holes in the Russia collusion lie, called out the lies that Adam Schiff and the Democrats
35:05were spewing and laid out the facts on President Trump and on his deep investigation on this
35:12program.
35:13As most of our viewers are aware, he told our viewers the truth over and over again
35:17on this program, as did his then chief investigator of the Crossfire Hurricane probe, Kash Patel,
35:23who we just heard from as the new FBI director.
35:26Joining me now is the man himself who exposed the Trump Russian collusion hoax from day
35:31one.
35:32Former House Intelligence Committee chairman and currently Trump media CEO Devin Nunes.
35:36Devin is also the chairman of the president's intelligence advisory board outside of government.
35:41Devin, thank you so much for being here this morning.
35:43I want to get your take first on the Russia collusion part of that interview.
35:47What struck you?
35:49I was fascinated.
35:50There's nobody better than Kash and Dan, or I should say Director Patel and Deputy
35:54Director Bongino.
35:56Those two guys know more about the Russia hoax than anyone else that's out there.
36:00And I'm going to be fascinated to see what this new information is that they found buried
36:04somewhere within that Hoover building, because I do think that transparency is key.
36:10And now that we have Ed Martin, who was supposed to be the U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C.,
36:15now the president has appointed him to go after this.
36:18So I think both Kash and Dan were pretty clear they're going to follow the facts.
36:22They're going to provide transparency.
36:24And then ultimately, it's up to the Department of Justice to hold these dirty cops responsible
36:29for what they've drugged this country through for the last almost decade.
36:33Well, you've called Jim Comey like a figurehead, but talked about others who are really driving
36:38this lie.
36:39Let me ask you this.
36:40Who do you believe was the mastermind behind the Russia collusion lie?
36:44Well, there's a lot of masterminds, but I think in general, this was lit on fire by
36:50Obama, Team Obama and his team, after Trump won in 2016.
36:56So they could have stopped it.
36:58They should have stopped it.
36:59Instead, they lit the fuse.
37:00They put out a BS intelligence report, if you recall, right before the president came
37:05in.
37:06They framed General Flynn.
37:07They framed the entire Trump administration.
37:09And then they appointed Mueller.
37:10So once Trump fired Comey, Mueller gets appointed.
37:14And then we lived through that Mueller witch hunt for years.
37:17And I think, me personally, I think if you're going to find criminality, it's going to be
37:23with Mueller and his witch hunters that were there for so many years.
37:27I think that's where you're going to find the corruption.
37:30So it wasn't just the, I said this many times, Maria, and I think it was lost on people.
37:35It wasn't just about all the corruption that they did to create and manufacture the Russia
37:40hoax.
37:41The Mueller investigation itself was a hoax and was illegal.
37:45When Mueller walked into that door, how many times did I say it?
37:49He said, where are the Russians?
37:50Oh, sir, there are none.
37:51Why didn't Mueller leave?
37:52Why did all those people work for years?
37:54Why did they hide the information from Congress for so many years?
37:57I think you're going to find many of those top level lawyers and FBI agents, as Cash
38:03said, did not conduct themselves in a professional manner.
38:06And I think if interviewed again, you could maybe get to the bottom of it.
38:10But look, you have two guys that want to get to the bottom of it.
38:12I have every faith that they will.
38:14I want to ask you about McCabe, Strzok, and the rest.
38:17Let's take a break and come right back.
38:18I'm talking with Devin Nunes.
38:19We'll be right back on Sunday Morning Futures.
38:28Welcome back.
38:29I'm back with former House Intelligence Committee chairman and the CEO of Trump Media and Technology
38:32Group, owner of Truth Social, Devin Nunes.
38:34Devin, you just mentioned Robert Mueller.
38:37Is that where we're going to see accountability?
38:38Are we not going to see any accountability from the likes of McCabe, Strzok?
38:42And what about Comey?
38:44Well, Dan and Cash are part of the cleanup crew now.
38:50So because you had the initial criminality, you had the Clinton campaign doing what they
38:55did.
38:56Then you have Obama that basically lights the fuse.
38:59Well, then you had Mueller who basically came in and covered it all up.
39:02So I think when you go in and start to look at that—remember, everybody's paying attention
39:06to Biden, and recently these Her tapes were released.
39:10Everybody knew.
39:11Now they act like they knew that Biden was essentially out of it.
39:16Well, those lawyers that were working for Mueller had to know that Mueller was out of
39:20it.
39:21Before Biden craziness, you had Mueller craziness.
39:24So I just believe that the agents and people that moved from the Russia hoax into the Mueller
39:30witch hunt hoax, those people need to be interviewed and there should be accountability there.
39:35I'm really anxious and want to learn from what Director Patel said, this new information.
39:40I wonder if it does have to do with that.
39:42I don't know yet.
39:43I mean, I'm sure that we will see it as a president's intelligence board.
39:48We will get all that information.
39:49The president's been very clear with me when he asked me to take on this role.
39:54He wants the corruption cleaned out.
39:57He wants the politicization cleaned up.
40:00And I think what we're seeing here is you've got to have transparency.
40:05You now have Ed Martin put in place in Washington, D.C.
40:07Now, look, we can't deal with the court, the justices and that problem.
40:12That's right.
40:13We'll have to deal with it one day at a time.
40:14I mentioned just Judge Boasberg.
40:17He was the one who gave Kevin Kleinsmith a smack on the wrist when Kevin Kleinsmith said,
40:21no, Carter Page is not a CIA asset, which he was.
40:25And what did he get?
40:26Community service.
40:28And here's Judge Boasberg again trying to stop President Trump on the immigration plans.
40:32Yeah, every time you peel something back here, Maria, what we learn is the corruption was
40:37what much worse than what we thought.
40:39And I think which now because the Trump because President Trump has come in, he's cleaning
40:44things out.
40:45He's putting good people in.
40:47Now what we're dealing with is the last part the left owns are the judges.
40:52Yeah.
40:53And now we're learning about what the judges are doing.
40:55Devin, thank you very much.
40:57Devin Nunes.
40:58We will have more of my exclusive interview tomorrow morning on Mornings with Maria.
41:01Don't miss it.
41:02We've got more exclusive from Kash Patel and Dan Bongino.
41:04Have a good Sunday, everybody.
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