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00:00Hello everyone, I'm Sandra Smith along with Katie Pavlich, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Watters
00:10and Greg Gutfeld.
00:12It is five o'clock in New York City and this is...
00:21All right, well questions are mounting over former President Joe Biden's shocking stage
00:25four prostate cancer diagnosis, which has aggressively spread to his bones.
00:30While we wish the former president well, a key ally of the Obama administration is asking
00:35why it wasn't caught sooner.
00:39He did not develop it in the last 100, 200 days.
00:43He had it while he was president.
00:44He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021.
00:50Yes, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.
00:55So the shocking cancer diagnosis follows a brutal week for president, former president
00:59Biden as a new book and the release of the long awaited her tapes exposed more troubling
01:05instances of a mental decline that was covered up and hidden from the public.
01:10But some of the media are already suggesting the cancer diagnosis might earn the former
01:15president a little breathing room from all the scrutiny.
01:19Those conversations are going to happen, but they should be more muted and set aside
01:27for now as he's struggling through this.
01:31It seems to me, Jessica, this debate doesn't end at all, but it is briefly put on pause
01:35as a result of today's news.
01:37But the her audio release continues to reverberate as Democrats and the media try to learn lessons
01:42from the cover up.
01:45And that is a crime against this republic.
01:48And I think the Democrats are going to pay for a long time for being a part of what is
01:52now being revealed to be a massive cover up.
01:55We need to apologize to the American people that we were a part of something that wasn't
01:59on the up and up.
02:00But ultimately, in retrospect, you can't defend what the Democratic Party did because we are
02:04stuck with a madman, with a corrupt president in the Oval Office.
02:09And we should have given ourselves a better chance to win.
02:11Hindsight is 2020.
02:13Obviously, if we could redo this tape and play it over again, we would do things differently.
02:20It's hard to convince somebody to give up their car keys.
02:23Yeah.
02:24Jesse, we all wish the former president well, I mean, just absolutely awful for any family
02:28to learn this about their loved one.
02:30But there's a lot.
02:31It seems that we are learning in the last 24 hours a lot.
02:35It seems that perhaps we didn't know along the way.
02:38What do you make of all this?
02:39Well, first, my heart goes out to the Bidens and the Biden family.
02:42Very unfortunate diagnosis, and we hope he beats it.
02:45But a lot of people are speculating whether this was medical malpractice or whether this
02:50was a medical coverup.
02:52And we have every right to speculate because they have been caught in so many lies.
02:57Now, so the medical coverup is not being said by Jesse Watters, it's being said all over
03:03the media by Democrats and by physicians.
03:07You're saying that this was caught possibly earlier and then nothing was released and
03:14then possibly exposed as a way to blunt the impact of the her report, audio release and
03:20the book.
03:21Now, I don't think that's possible, but at this point, anything's possible.
03:26The other one is the medical malpractice.
03:27How are you not going to give a guy a PSA test?
03:31How are you not going to give someone a test and then not release the results?
03:36Did they not give this test to Joe Biden because they gave it to the last three presidents
03:41and then they released the PSA numbers?
03:43So who knows if he even got tested?
03:45He was supposed to have had a full test a year ago and they said there was no cancer
03:50detected.
03:51Well, we need to know exactly what tests they did.
03:54And since 2000, Joe Biden has broken his foot.
03:59He's had skin cancer.
04:01He has had two horrible bouts with COVID-19 and then he was living as president with prostate
04:08cancer and the entire media said he was healthy as an ox and that they said he was running
04:13circles around binder.
04:16And so there's a doctor, O'Connor was his personal physician.
04:20There's a funny axiom that says, you know, having a personal physician 24 seven around
04:26the clock is a leading indicator of death.
04:29A lot of celebrities, a lot of wealthy individuals have these doctors on call and they kind of
04:34give you anything and they're just there to protect the brand, there to protect the status
04:38and the job that happens with some people.
04:41But this guy, O'Connor takes it to a next level.
04:44This guy was brought in from Delaware and he was in business with the Biden family and
04:50it was this is oldest president in American history, probably the sickest sitting president
04:55of the century.
04:56And he never gave a press conference.
04:58In four years, O'Connor never came to the press and said, this is what the president
05:03is dealing with.
05:05That is, he needs to be brought in, he needs to be subpoenaed and he needs to answer some
05:10of these questions.
05:11I can't believe if he had won, Joe Biden would have died in office and Kamala would have
05:17been president and the doctors in the media would have been like, oops, sorry, we missed
05:21it.
05:22Wow.
05:23Wow.
05:25Well, Howard, there are multiple experts who have lined up in the wake of this news to
05:29say, you know, it would be shocking that this kind of cancer wasn't noticed during recent
05:35checkups that it had to have been developing for quite some time.
05:38Howard Forman, Yale Medical School, it's inconceivable that this was not being followed before he
05:44left the presidency.
05:45Urologist David Shusterman says it's insanely unlikely someone who gets annual checkups
05:50would not have noticed this developing cancer.
05:55So my prayers, like yours, Jesse, go out to his family.
05:57This is a tough diagnosis.
05:58I have friends and family who have this, who've had the diagnosis and I can only, I only imagine
06:05a tough struggle and a tough road ahead.
06:07I align with Jesse on this.
06:10I think that the fact that the president of the United States is not getting as exhaustive
06:16of a review of a physical, of the kind of medical examination one would expect, and
06:22then to have all of that revealed to the public in 2025, 25 years into the 21st century,
06:31you combine that with some of the things that we, people were saying about President Biden
06:35throughout his presidency, questioning the cognitive abilities, some of the mental health
06:40abilities, and then the physical things that happened when he fell down, fell up the stairs,
06:45down the stairs, off his bike.
06:48We deserve better.
06:50I hope going, what we really learn from this.
06:52I'm not one to look backwards, although I pray for him.
06:57I hope that what we do going forward is to ask these doctors and physicians, Jesse, we
07:01ought to have a different standard for all of this.
07:03When you think about the president's role of growing the economy, keeping the country
07:06safe, we're in basically a new economic cold war with China, and Russia is emerging again.
07:12We need to know everything about our president, and this shouldn't be by chance, by any measure.
07:19I listened to Dr. Emanuel, he's far brighter than I am and more experienced and more educated
07:24than I am in these matters.
07:25I do have a dear friend whose wife got a stage four cancer diagnosis very late, had not seen
07:30it before, and she had had an injury and got the diagnosis and passed about a year later.
07:36So these things I imagine can happen, but when you are the president of the United States,
07:40with the kind of care the president should get, we should not be surprised by these things.
07:44But I'm like you, my thoughts and prayers are with he and his family.
07:46I know this road ahead is going to be a difficult one.
07:49And again, we wish him the absolute best.
07:50Greg, is it fair for some of the media, including David Axelrod now to be saying that we should
07:55set aside any talk about the cognitive coverup during his presidency as he battles this cancer?
08:02When they say something like that, you have to believe that that's the reason why they're
08:07breaking the news now.
08:08So you do mute and you do pause.
08:11The timing is telling you that this cancer is being used as a tool to deflect from outrage
08:16to sympathy.
08:18But get this, normal human beings, we can have both.
08:20We can feel sad for somebody who has cancer.
08:23Like Harold said, we all know people intimately who are who have cancer, who are dying from
08:28cancer and who will die of cancer.
08:30So we could feel sad.
08:32But that's not going to infringe on the space in my brain that is reserved and dedicated
08:37to this coverup of his incapacitation.
08:40So you're not going to get a mute or a pause for me.
08:43But nice try.
08:45The cut this, you know, this we're talking about, like, how could this happen?
08:50We've always been saying about all of these problems in the last eight years.
08:55How did this happen?
08:56How did this happen?
08:57How did this happen?
08:58I say eight years because this has been going on before Biden was president.
09:01The neglect is on purpose.
09:03You know, we, for example, just focus on Joe Biden, the elder abuse line that we kept hearing.
09:08Why did it continue?
09:11Because Joe was docile and fragile and offering no resistance to any part of the progressive
09:19agenda.
09:20Joe's dysfunction may have been caused not by disability, but by debility, meaning he
09:26was worn down on purpose, deliberately kept feeble and weak, which made him pliable like
09:33a POW, except the W stands for White House.
09:37Joe's dysfunction was not prevented when it could have been because it kept him easily
09:43managed.
09:44He was always tired.
09:46He probably didn't want to answer questions or sign things.
09:49So we've seen a series of of colossal blunders and deliberate cover ups.
09:55All are ethically indefensible.
09:58All you can do if you're doing this stuff is tell yourself, consider the alternative.
10:04And the alternative to them was always Trump.
10:07That was their narrative, like they can cover up this guy who is physically and mentally
10:12feeble because look at the other guy.
10:16It's Trump.
10:17So Trump is an existential threat.
10:19That narrative became justification for every kind of immoral behavior, including allowing
10:25violence, the implosion of a border, cover ups, blatant, blatant illegal activity, siding
10:32with gangbangers up to now.
10:35Hamas sympathizers.
10:36You can you can approve of anything if you sell people the belief you assign the opinion
10:43that Trump is an existential risk.
10:45They knew about all this stuff.
10:47They covered it up.
10:48Well, we did see the media having to deal with the her the release of the her audio
10:52and the her tape today.
10:53Yeah.
10:54What in what appears to be the many stages of coping, Katie Van Jones said that Democrats
10:58will pay for covering up Biden's decline for a, quote, a long time.
11:03Yeah, because this is a total betrayal of the American people.
11:07This is about breaking of trust.
11:10And it's very difficult to get it back once it's been broken.
11:12Now, in politics, trust can be a relative term because of the the industry that you're
11:17dealing with.
11:18But they covered up thing after thing after thing.
11:21And then when the American people who are part of this republic democratic process were
11:25allowed to ask questions about the president of the United States who was elected, they
11:30were told that they were crazy, that they were mean people for questioning the president's
11:34cognitive state, that they weren't empathetic.
11:37And now you're seeing that happening again with David Axelrod saying, well, we can't
11:41really talk about it anymore.
11:43And the implication there is that if you dare to ask questions about the betrayal from the
11:49Biden White House, from the Democrats as a whole, then you're just not an empathetic
11:53person.
11:54And when people get diagnosed with cancer, when it's really a bigger issue of what's
11:59been going on for the last couple of years, I don't know how they get out of this, because
12:03in order to regain the trust that they've lost, you have to be very transparent, overwhelmingly.
12:09And yet they're still doubling down on on covering up and not talking about it.
12:13So politically for them, it's very difficult for them to go out and say, you can trust
12:17us and believe us when we're talking about things that we'll do for you when they can't
12:20even come to terms with the fact that this was obvious for years, the White House doctor
12:25not coming out to give press conferences, not answering any questions.
12:29I went back through all of the letters that the White House doctor put out, not a single
12:33mention of this.
12:34And also, it's kind of a betrayal to the president.
12:37I mean, how did you not, if this is what they weren't doing, give someone of that age, the
12:42president of the United States, that kind of physical test?
12:45I mean, how could you not give the test?
12:47Those questions will be asked for a long time.
12:49Any people watching right now, go out and get those tests on a regular basis.
12:52Katie, thank you for that.
12:54Up next, Hillary Clinton and Tim Walz taking aim at President Trump with some really wild
12:59accusations.
13:00I got my head out the sunroof.
13:01I'm blasting my favorite tunes.
13:02I only got one thing on my mind.
13:03You got me stuck on the thought of you.
13:04I just want to love somebody who won't leave a hole in my heart.
13:17Well, the losers of Democrats passed, refused to go quietly.
13:23Hillary Clinton and Tim Walz are back, not with solutions for the country or their party,
13:27but with a full-blown case of TDS.
13:30Kamala has failed Veep kicking things off using a college graduation speech to smear
13:34ICE agents with a truly despicable comparison.
13:38Donald Trump's modern day escapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
13:44They're in unmarked vans wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.
13:48No chance to mount a defense, not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye, just grabbed
13:53up by masked agents, shoved into those vans and disappeared.
13:58Not to be outdone, Hillary Clinton is also running her mouth about the popular border
14:01policies of the man who beat her by mocking traditional American families.
14:07This very blatant effort to basically send a message most exemplified by Vance and Musk
14:13and others that, you know, what we really need from you women are more children, which
14:19is sort of odd because the people who produce the most children in our country are immigrants
14:23and they want to deport them.
14:25So none of this adds up.
14:27First of all, don't be a handmaiden to the patriarchy, which kind of eliminates every
14:37woman on the other side of the aisle, except for very few.
14:41Hmm.
14:42All right, Greg, I want to talk about the Gestapo first.
14:47Or what?
14:48Oh, yeah.
14:49I guess I could talk about Tim Waltz.
14:51Why?
14:52Why do people like Waltz only communicate through commencement addresses?
14:56Right.
14:57Not podcasts.
14:58It's because they can only recite their boilerplate opinions in arenas where there's no risk of
15:04a follow up question.
15:05It's like J.D. Vance just mopped the floor with him when he actually was faced with someone
15:10asking him stuff.
15:11The moment you say, what do you mean by that?
15:13Or do you have proof that they're like the Gestapo?
15:15They will implode.
15:16This is why lefties always get all the commencement addresses and they love to spout their opinions
15:22on award shows because they know there's no journalists there that will ask them a question.
15:27And the reason why and he's the perfect example, none of their opinions are actually real.
15:35They're all assigned.
15:37So he has he has there's just a folksy glibness, but underneath it, there is nothing.
15:44And they never have to have that challenge because the people around them never say,
15:49hey, what do you mean by that?
15:51There's no contemplation.
15:52You can always tell when somebody is telling you something that is not their own opinion.
15:56You do it all the time.
15:57Jesse, you know, it's a perfect example.
15:59A perfect example is like me make insulting Nickelback.
16:06And I've never heard their song songs, but I make fun of Nickelback, but it's only because
16:10I've heard other people make fun of it.
16:12That's an assigned opinion.
16:13You look at you look at Hillary.
16:15She uses the phrase.
16:16What was it?
16:17The I wrote it down here, handmaiden to the patriarchy, which I think she means she's
16:22bashing Monica Lewinsky.
16:23I'm not sure.
16:24But this is only is appealing to an ever shrinking circle of feminist women, the same
16:30who bow to the altar of trans men and keep silent when real women are victimized by really
16:35bad men.
16:36But again, it's another assigned opinion that's lazily presented men against women, whether
16:42it's race or gender.
16:43As long as you pit one group against the other, they won't look up at you.
16:48And this is how the Democrat Party survives, as they want everybody to fight each other
16:52over their specific group rather than fight over an idea.
16:57Because once you look at the ideas, you leave the party.
17:00Right.
17:01And if you are in a group that they think should vote for Democrats and you stray away,
17:05Sandra, then you get this kind of treatment.
17:07I mean, does Hillary Clinton want to comment on Susie Wiles, who is the first female chief
17:11of staff and the very pro mother administration that the Trump administration has put into
17:16place that President Trump has hired all these young women to work for him who are doing
17:19a great job on the merits?
17:20I mean, for her to say you can't be holding the hand of the patriarchy was just a shot
17:25at any woman who decides she doesn't want the same path as Hillary.
17:28What stuck out to me was the eliminating women comment as I interviewed the father of a seventh
17:33grader today, a seventh grade girl who was put out of metal contention running in her
17:39200 meter race on the track against a biological boy.
17:44And it took this suburban father to take to the national airwaves to bring attention to
17:49the matter, because people like Hillary Clinton are not as far as Tim Walz is concerned.
17:54He's got a captive audience when it comes to the graduation speeches.
17:57I mean, if we're up to him, I think we'd see him all over the place.
18:00I think Democrats might be holding back on him.
18:03But if you look at the last election and you look at the response he gets when he gets
18:06out, the Republicans should probably be happy that he keeps himself out there in the forefront.
18:12But Hillary Clinton's words got me today talking to watching that girl not be able to get a
18:16third place finish because she has to race against a boy.
18:20I'm just getting word from producers.
18:22Tim Walz has stage four jazz hands.
18:24Oh, wow. Yeah, I heard that's lethal.
18:26Yes. Jesse, don't you just love paying tens of thousands of dollars for a kid to go to
18:32college and then you go to the graduation finally and you get a lecture like this?
18:36Isn't it just the best? Yeah, I mean, I could I'd fall asleep with tampon.
18:39Talk to me. And he won't.
18:41I've invited him on like twice and he's still dodging.
18:44Bummer. So tampons career's over, Katie.
18:47You can't call ICE agents Nazis.
18:50That is a career ender.
18:52Federal law enforcement officials are Nazis.
18:55And this is coming from the guy that had a covid snitch line.
18:58This is coming from a guy that fantasizes over communist China, which is a little more
19:04in line with those other people that he mentioned.
19:06If you have a face tattoo and you have criminal convictions in this country and you're a
19:10foreign national and you get picked up, I don't want a lawyer.
19:14I don't want an appeal.
19:16I want you. Adios.
19:17Goodbye. And if he thinks they should stay in here while they fight through the legal
19:22system. No, absolutely not.
19:24Now, Hillary, she thinks it's virtuous to have the entire third world in Latin America
19:30break through the border right before their water breaks and then have a baby at an
19:34American hospital without health insurance and then just raise the kid in a hotel room
19:39in Midtown while we pay for it.
19:41Absolutely not.
19:42We want more babies.
19:44Everybody wants more babies because if you don't have them, it's basic arithmetic,
19:48Katie. You go bankrupt first and then the civilization collapses and all the policies
19:53the lefts are pushing is contributing to the decline of civilization, whether it's porn,
19:59cannabis, rapid urbanization, rapid industrialization, high mortgage rates.
20:07All of these things are making it impossible to have children and raise children.
20:12I just feel bad for Chelsea Clinton.
20:14That's who I think of mostly at these times.
20:17I'm sure you and Bill, she didn't choose to be born.
20:20Yeah. All right. So, Carol, do you think it's time to say adios goodbye to Hillary and
20:25Tim? Are you tired of talking about them when you're ready to move on to new people?
20:30I've been critical of my party over the last several months for the way we have handled
20:36the aftermath of the election.
20:38You look at just as a juxtaposition.
20:40You look at several of the special elections that have been held since November.
20:44Democrats have fared somewhat well, I think largely because those Democrats running are
20:48actually in the country.
20:50You just recently had a mayor in Nebraska, an Omaha Republican, a Democrat beat him.
20:55They're not they're not tapping into this Democratic message.
20:57The autopsy the Democrats need that lays out to try to lay out and determine why we
21:02lost, how we lost.
21:03No one has seriously done it at the federal level.
21:05So as a result, your free agents like Mr.
21:07Waltz and I say free agents are known political figures.
21:10Obviously, Senator Clinton is a known secretary.
21:13Clinton's a known political figure, but they're not saying things with any coordination or
21:16symmetry. And for that matter, they don't sound as if they're really in touch with the
21:21things that happen. You talked about the transgender athlete.
21:24That's an issue that we as Democrats, if we don't get serious about and realistic about
21:30and credible on, we're not going to be listened to on other issues that are credible and
21:34meaningful in people's lives.
21:36And until you understand where the path is and what the issues are, they're going to
21:39push us forward. You're going to continue to hear these voices, these free agent voices
21:43out here talking and really kind of a desperate and frankly, unorganized and really
21:47ineffective way about the things that people care about.
21:50My advice, if you can't do it at the federal level, the autopsy, at least listen to what
21:54those who are winning in these special elections in the state races, the local races,
21:58what are they saying that's appealing to everyday Americans and a broad cross-section of
22:03the country. But until you get an autopsy, until you figure out and we all understand
22:07and get the painful lessons, you're going to continue to show these kind of silly bits
22:11and not to sit up and respond to this.
22:14I think that's good advice from Harold.
22:16He would like you to move on.
22:17Thank you. All right. Up next, Democrats are going ballistic over the big, beautiful
22:21bill and Americans are finally keeping more of their hard earned cash.
22:33He said. He told me that.
22:38Oh, wow. Fox News alert.
22:39Trump reacting just moments ago to the shocking cancer diagnosis of former President Joe
22:44Biden. Watch.
22:45Very, very sad situation.
22:47I feel very badly about it.
22:49And I think people should try and find out what happened, because I'll tell you, the
22:55world, I don't know if it had anything to do with the hospital.
22:57Walter Reed is really good.
22:59There's some of the best doctors I've ever seen.
23:01I don't even know if they were involved.
23:03But a doctor was involved in each case.
23:06Maybe it was the same doctor and somebody is not telling the facts.
23:11It's a big it's a big problem.
23:13Meanwhile, Democrats are ripping President Trump's big, beautiful bill after it cleared
23:17a hurdle in a late night vote and poised for a larger vote on Wednesday.
23:22This spending bill is terrible, and I think the American people know that.
23:27I made a very simple case that the Republican budget is not going to help working class
23:32folks. This budget bill is an absolute disaster.
23:35It is going to kick over 10 million people off of their health care.
23:38These guys are running the economy recklessly because all they care about is the health
23:43of the Mar-a-Lago billionaire class.
23:46So, Harold, the Dems think this is a terrible bill, but they think it's a terrible bill
23:51for the wrong reason.
23:53It's not a great bill because we're in a fiscal crisis and we aren't acting like it.
23:57We need to cut, cut, cut.
23:59And I think we're adding two point five trillion to the debt.
24:01Is that correct? I think it's a little more than that.
24:03That's what the forecast. But they're mad because they're cutting.
24:06We're we're not adding more.
24:08So I think I think a couple of things you and I agree on, I mean, you're for for a
24:12slightly different reason to give some sense.
24:15There's no doubt this bill here is the sink forecast, the single largest increase
24:20forecasted on on in debt pressure of any bill that's ever been considered to in the
24:27last 10 years, to your point about the spending cuts.
24:30To put some perspective, you talked about population growth, Jesse, in the last
24:34segment in a different context.
24:35But our national debt has grown by 98 percent.
24:38Let's just round up to 100 percent.
24:40So it's it's doubled in the last 10 years.
24:42Our population, however, has only grown 5 percent and tax collections have gone up 60
24:48percent. So there's no doubt for Democrats who think we should just tax everybody.
24:52You can't do that. You have to cut spending.
24:54And for those who say we should not that we should not think about raising taxes on
24:58the ultra rich in the country, I give you this number.
25:00The 10 richest Americans, when you combine their net worth, they're worth almost one
25:06point nine trillion dollars.
25:08I don't begrudge wealth, but our entire discretionary budget, which is anything but
25:13defense, Social Security, Medicare and interest on the debt is only one point nine
25:18trillion. So you have 10 people with that net worth.
25:20I'm not a believe that we should overtax people, but I definitely believe we
25:24shouldn't overtax working people, middle class and poor people in the country.
25:28The president has said that tariffs are an answer.
25:30Jesse and I've had some beautiful, big, brawling conversations about this.
25:33Tariffs largely impact the middle class and poor first.
25:37Why? Because so much of their income is used to buy things and consume things.
25:41Tax cuts, as much as the president and Republicans want to say this tax bill,
25:45extending these things are going to help middle class Americans.
25:48The vast majority of people are going to be helped by the tax cuts or the wealthiest
25:51because there's one other number over the last 12 years.
25:54The S&P has gone up almost 400 percent.
25:57And the only way to benefit from the stock market is if you have money invested in
26:01the stock market and you have to have a lot for that to benefit you.
26:04So I say to Democrats, you have to cut spending.
26:06I say to Republicans, stop kidding Americans that you're not raising, that
26:10you're not cutting taxes for the richest Americans.
26:12Why not raise taxes on those earning two and a half million or more to pay for
26:16these things? So we may differ a little bit.
26:17But one thing we agree on, the debt is not going to go down because of this and
26:21that people are going to benefit the most are not middle class, working class
26:24Americans. It's going to be some people around this
26:26table and people much richer. All right.
26:28Bernie Sanders. So, Katie, there is no tax on tips.
26:32No. I mean, I don't think that's helping billionaires and trillionaires.
26:36No taxes on overtime for police officers, for example.
26:41No taxes on Social Security. Lots of tax breaks.
26:44If this does not pass, it would be the largest tax hike you've ever seen in
26:49American history, which is key.
26:51There's lots of components to this.
26:53Harold's talking about the CBO score.
26:54You should throw that out the window because it doesn't calculate extra taxes
26:58that are paid once you get more of your money back and you put it back into the
27:00economy. Doesn't account for regulatory growth and
27:03what that costs companies.
27:05You talk about people who have large net net worth.
27:08Well, yeah, those are tight.
27:09Their worth is tied up in big companies.
27:11They don't just have cash that they can just give to the government unless the
27:14companies go away. Tesla and Twitter being an example of
27:17that. Amazon, the White House today is
27:19pushing out a number of statements from all kinds of different constituencies.
27:24The Uber CEO, DoorDash CEO, Americans for Prosperity, Airlines for America,
27:29Numbers USA. These are all different groups or
27:32businesses that have different stakes in this bill, whether it's illegal
27:35immigration, travel, the economy, all those things.
27:39So they think that this bill is good for their own constituencies and it's
27:43diverse. So that's why they're they're pushing
27:45that out. And if it doesn't pass, Republicans
27:48won't have this opportunity because they have full control of Washington, D.C.,
27:51which is what reconciliation is about.
27:53Taxes on people earning five million or more to pay for the tax.
27:55No, we spend more money. The government is taking in more money
27:59today than it ever has in the history of the country.
28:01More spending and more taxing will not get that to an economic growth model.
28:06You've got to do both. Sandra, what do you say?
28:07But if you don't extend the twenty seventeen tax cuts, you're raising taxes
28:10on essentially everybody. I don't disagree, but I don't think you
28:13should. You should raise it on the people who
28:15need it most is all I'm saying. And he is targeting some of those people
28:18within taxes and tips, the overtime wages that Katie mentioned as well.
28:22Also, they want to direct a lot of this money, billions, in fact, to immigration
28:25enforcement after the crisis that we all just lived through of the past few years.
28:30Just one last point on the tariffs, because there's a lot of fear mongering
28:33over this, similar to the tariffs.
28:34What I don't hear Democrats talking about right now, they love to talk about
28:38the drop in the stock market as fear built over the tariffs.
28:42And now the stock market has not only built back, rallied back all the losses
28:46since Liberation Day, it's now higher than when they even announced those
28:49tariffs to begin with. And I don't hear a peep from Democrats
28:52because they reverse the tariffs. That's why that's why the market's behaving
28:55like it is not all of them.
28:57There's a little box on your tax return, Harold, that you can check and you can
29:00voluntarily pay more. Have you ever done that?
29:03I follow the Trump model. I only pay what I have.
29:05OK, so you just want to make sure everybody has to pay more taxes under the
29:09threat of the IRS coming to your house with guns.
29:11But if you wanted to be so generous and kind because you think you want to save
29:14the country, you can do it.
29:17You don't. Can I make one point, please, Jesse?
29:20I want to make a point about Medicare.
29:22Stop falling asleep or I almost had you.
29:26They keep on saying you're going to cut Medicare for these people.
29:28You know what they're doing? If you're a young, able bodied, healthy
29:32American man, 26 years old, you don't even want to go to work.
29:36You can get on Medicaid.
29:38It's blowing a hole in the budget.
29:40Thanks to Barack Obama.
29:41You can live at your parents' house, play softball on the weekend, sell ecstasy on
29:45the side, not even look for a job.
29:47I like and you can get free health care.
29:50That's what they're doing. They're just closing that lazy loophole.
29:53Why did you like the ads selling the X to make Medicaid interesting?
29:57Why did you choose softball or baseball, Katie?
30:03All I say is pay for it and give good working people the tax cuts, not the
30:06riches. All right.
30:07We get it. Thank you, Howard.
30:08She's a daily worker over here.
30:12Up next, President Trump smacks the boss around.
30:32The boss loves to talk smack about 47 while on foreign soil.
30:36Bruce Springsteen accusing President Trump of running a rogue government and
30:40siding with dictators.
30:41But offstage, the so-called dried out prune is singing a whole different tune.
30:48Bruce, what's your message for Trump?
30:51Please. Thank you.
30:53Thank you for grace.
30:55But President Trump is showing Springsteen, who's boss, calling for a major
31:00investigation into Bruce and his liberal celeb friends, who he says got paid
31:04millions to fawn over Kamala during the 2024 campaign.
31:10Greg, do you support a federal investigation into all
31:15celebrities?
31:16Yes, I think they should be flown to El Salvador.
31:19No, I don't. I don't know about these people being paid because they don't seem
31:24like they need the money. They're into the status and the relevance, you know, to
31:28feel important without actually putting in the work.
31:31I'd say this again is another example of an opinion being assigned.
31:36There's no difference in Springsteen's opinion from a Larry David or a Tim Waltz.
31:40They're all the same things that have been said about Trump.
31:43It's assigned to them. It's not original.
31:46I think Springsteen has a huge fear that if he were to meet Trump, he
31:51would like him, agree with him and they would get along because that is what
31:54happens every time a rapper, a comedian, an actor meets Trump.
31:59It forces you to release these assigned opinions that you've been carrying around
32:03like rocks in your head.
32:05It sucks.
32:06But maybe put your ego aside.
32:08If you if you have these strong feelings about this guy and you're willing to talk
32:10about him on foreign soil, go to the White House like Bill Maher did.
32:13Meet him.
32:14We should have just Trump go to Hollywood for a rope line.
32:17Have every celebrity say whatever they want.
32:20Now, it looked like he was just playing his acoustic guitar, Sandra.
32:24Does that deserve what, a five hundred grand to the E Street band?
32:31I don't know. I just I think that I have a feeling my friend Katie is going to agree
32:36with me on this, but we all love to go to our concerts and take in our art and our
32:40music and our shows.
32:42And we want the politics to be left out of it.
32:45And I don't know. I haven't heard reaction.
32:47I haven't heard reaction from the crowd over my whole show.
32:53But I mean, have you heard from anyone who was like, I, you know, I loved that speech.
32:57I love that he did that in the middle of this concert, that I saved all my dollars for
33:02to come to this concert. I'm so glad he did.
33:04No, you haven't heard. OK, it would be like me playing the flute during the five the
33:09whole time. People don't come to me play the flute.
33:12Would you do that? No.
33:15Or a recorder.
33:17I think I have a whole band.
33:19Harold, what about you? What do you think?
33:21Look, I agree with Sandra.
33:23I love Kid Rock.
33:24I love UFC.
33:25I love I love Chick-fil-A and they say their politics, all three of those entities and
33:29people, their politics may be different than mine.
33:31And I don't I don't think about even when they say things that I know that are
33:34different than my politics.
33:35I wish that people and I'm a Bruce Springsteen fan.
33:38I wish that people wouldn't go overseas and criticize the country.
33:41President Trump was a little guilty of it when he criticized Dana's old boss W for
33:46talking about nation building and how we're going to get away from all that.
33:48He can have those views, but just don't do it.
33:50Do it overseas and I hope Bush by name.
33:54He basically did.
33:55But he certainly I mean, he essentially said that our policies of nation building and
33:59telling you what to do, we're going to and spreading democracy in those ways.
34:02We're going to get away from he has every right to those opinions.
34:04I just wish you wouldn't do. I wish no one would do that when you're on when you're
34:08not on American soil.
34:10And, you know, I don't necessarily disagree.
34:12I think people who meet the president like him, I think he president finds himself
34:15agreeing with people he meets and the people he meets, finds themselves, find
34:18themselves agreeing with him a little bit more.
34:21And that's called, in my book, bipartisanship and common sense and people coming
34:25together to try to solve the party or something or the party.
34:29I don't know. I find it not only did he criticize overseas, but he's standing in a
34:34country where they lock people up and put them in jail for hurting people's feelings on
34:38the Internet while he's claiming that America and the Trump administration is the
34:41problem. So just a little rich in irony there.
34:44Yeah. All right.
34:45Yeah. Up next, Harold, a finger death grip among world powers.
34:53How we want to give up the
35:00when everywhere is.
35:06I'm trying to give you welcome back is the ultimate alpha male move, a finger flex
35:10watches Turkey's president giving French President Macron's finger a death grip,
35:14refusing to let go for a few seconds before finally releasing it.
35:17The two world leaders were at a political summit in Albania.
35:21He still got that. What do you think about this, Katie?
35:24Is this something tries to bring his little white flag to let go, like waving it
35:29around? Please, sir, surrender.
35:32Exclamation point. What do you think?
35:34Is this a way to edit it?
35:36Because you we edited it.
35:37We left out the part where Macron comes in.
35:39He goes, I dare you to put my finger.
35:43And then he pulls his finger and then you hear the loudest fart you've ever heard.
35:48And they literally had to clear the room.
35:51It was disgusting. It was so bad.
35:52Macron's wife got up and left, but not before giving Erdogan a good right hook.
35:59Now, do you think you think that maybe the president of Turkey was asking Sandra for if
36:04indeed they do the peace summit between Ukraine and Russia, the Vatican, that he can be
36:08there with? Because we're going to probably be there.
36:10But watch this. So then.
36:11OK, so then he has a few fingers.
36:12OK. And then it goes down to one.
36:15I think he's like finishing a point.
36:16He's pulling on him. So I just watch this like a third time.
36:19But he's not talking. He's just nodding his head.
36:21It looks like. So I don't know.
36:24Prom time. You covering this tonight?
36:26No. The situation is this, Harold.
36:29Men like to touch other guys.
36:31We just like that. True.
36:32We like to touch them like this, you know, about that at the Planet Fitness Sauna where I
36:37saw you. And then politicians, the guys love to touch guys.
36:41They're like, oh, you know, that's all they think.
36:43But then when you're old, when you're old, you can get away with more stuff.
36:47And then when you're Turkish, sky's the limit.
36:51Because people are like, maybe it's a cultural thing.
36:54They're like, you know, they do things differently down there.
36:57Walmart's raising prices.
36:58One more thing is up next.
37:02The next phase, baby, take me to my soul.
37:13All right, it is time now for one more thing, Greg.
37:16Thanks, Shelly. Tonight, we got a great show.
37:19Guy Benson, Julie Banderas, Jim Norton, Kennedy.
37:22That's tonight. Hey, let's do this in your face, Harold.
37:28Yeah, Harold, you don't have a nickname.
37:31Well, this Harold, the Chihuahua, is known as Handsome Harold.
37:35He is a Chihuahua.
37:37That's a 10. You know, he was adopted at Bond's Small Dog Rescue.
37:42It's really nice to hear about a 10 year old Chihuahua being adopted.
37:46He enjoys relaxing, much like you, Harold.
37:48And he bonds with people quickly, unlike you, Harold.
37:51You think he goes by Howard?
37:54Oh, my gosh, I'm never going to live that down.
37:56All right, Jesse.
37:57Pleaves no more midshipman at the U.S.
37:59Naval Academy.
38:00You're going to love this.
38:01Conquered the Herndon Climb in Annapolis.
38:04Longstanding tradition.
38:06They worked together to ascend a greased up 21 foot monument, Greg.
38:10Wow. And swap a white hat already on top with an upperclassman's hat.
38:15It's slathered with 200 pounds of vegetable shortening.
38:19And they are sprayed with water the whole time.
38:21Took two hours, 27 minutes, 31 seconds to climb it.
38:25Amazing feat of strength tonight.
38:27Jesse, what is prime time?
38:28Comey doubles down.
38:30Harold, Friday night at the garden was big.
38:33The Knicks made history first time in 25 years, headed to the Eastern
38:37Conference Finals, beat their arch rival, our arch rival, the Celtics.
38:40The fans had a ball.
38:42They poured into the streets, taken over parts of Seventh Avenue.
38:44That's great. Celebrating the win.
38:47Game one versus Indiana's Wednesday night.
38:49We still got a ways to go, but go Knicks.
38:51OK, Sandra, back in 1946, Harvard Law School purchased
38:55what it thought was a cheap copy of the Magna Carta for 27 bucks.
39:00Turns out the school's copies are rare issue of the iconic British document
39:04and could be worth millions.
39:06The original Magna Carta was written in 12, 12, 15, and served as a great
39:10influence on many of America's own founding documents like the Constitution.
39:14I love a bargain. That's great, Katie.
39:17Thank you for that historical report, Sandra.
39:19All right. Talk about raising the roof, literally.
39:22In Belgium, an inline skater caught major air during a competition,
39:25ended up kicking the ceiling mid-flipped.
39:28Brian Altman's hit the ramp like a rocket.
39:30Soared sky high and then met the ceiling in an unexpected plot twist.
39:34But he's OK. Just a bump to his head and, of course, to his ego.
39:38But maybe they need to raise the ceiling for tricks like that.
39:41Oh, there you go.
39:44You skateboard, right?
39:45I skateboard to work.
39:46I thought so.
39:47That's right. I skateboard. I'm holding orphans.
39:50I don't skate, but what do you think?
39:52What do you do, Sandra?
39:55Thanks so much for having me.
39:56That's it for us. Have a great night, everybody.
39:59Shelley and Handsome Harold, thank you.
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