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Original Broadcast Date: March 12th 2014

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00:00One, two, three!
00:30Thank you, thank you, and very good evening to you all, nice to be here still.
00:40I predicted last week that World War III would have started by now, Russia held up its
00:45end of the bargain and annexed Crimea, but the other side doesn't seem to have turned
00:48up.
00:49I think it's the only world war that's ever been won by forfeit.
00:53It's actually very hard to know what's going on over there.
00:55The OSCE military observers couldn't observe anything because the military was standing
00:59in front of them.
01:01A UN special envoy was forced by armed men to take refuge in a coffee shop, although, as
01:07I understand it, that's the standard way Starbucks and Gloria Jeans vie for customers these days.
01:12Word is there's been a vote of some sort, and the result came down in favour of Russia over
01:17the West.
01:18Apparently only a very small sample of the population was polled, though.
01:21Just this guy.
01:22Putin, OK.
01:25Obama, нет.
01:26But it wasn't a war in Europe that got me mad as hell this week.
01:31I think I speak for all of Australia when I say we were more concerned about ourselves.
01:37Specifically our money.
01:38Where is it?
01:39Is there enough?
01:40And can we have some more?
01:41First up is Qantas.
01:43And despite requests from CEO Alan Joyce, the federal government has decided against granting
01:47a debt guarantee to the ailing carrier.
01:50Don't know what the problem is.
01:51I'm happy to do it.
01:52Qantas, if you're watching, you lost $235 million in the last six months.
01:57You're in debt.
01:58I guarantee it.
02:00Next up is Ford.
02:02And like Celine Dion's heart in the movie Titanic, Ford Australia will go on.
02:07At least until 2016.
02:09They've announced this week that they plan to release new 2016 model Falcons by as early
02:13as next year.
02:14Well, this correspondent would just like to commend Ford on giving its all right up until
02:18the very and bitter end.
02:19It would have been so easy to take the foot off the accelerator, assuming one had been
02:23installed, or alternatively, with nothing to lose, floor it and hurdle off a cliff.
02:28But slowing down to a stop or plummeting into a canyon, Thelma and Ruiz style, was never
02:32Henry Ford's way.
02:33He was about mass producing things so they'd be cheaper per unit to make, and if you can't
02:37do that, get some Mexicans to do it for you.
02:39So well done, Ford, and congratulations on your all new 2015 model Falcon, which I believe
02:44we have a sneak preview of.
02:45Do we have that?
02:46Oh, there we are.
02:48As you can see, a host of subtracted extras there, including, for the first time in an
02:52Australia model Falcon, a sunroof.
02:55Then there's the question of money for us, and in the Prime Minister's quest to somehow
02:59fund his already fully funded paid parental scheme, Mr Abbott and his fellow coalitioners
03:04are hot on the trail of millions of dollars in unpaid corporate tax.
03:07For Apple in Australia, $8.9 billion in untaxed profits over 10 years.
03:13Now, fortunately, level heads are prevailing, and action on this rort is enjoying rare cross-chamber
03:18support.
03:19But I've been in business and I can see bullshit when I see it.
03:23Although maybe we should give Apple the benefit of the doubt, it might be a case of technological
03:27incompatibility.
03:28Their financial operating system simply doesn't work with our Australian tax system.
03:31To explain the intricacies of international tax law loopholes, we invited a representative
03:36from Apple onto the program, but instead we were referred to the company's iPhone 5 personal
03:41assistant, Siri.
03:45Siri, explain why Apple is shifting billions of dollars in profits overseas.
03:48Is Apple using the Republic of Ireland as a tax haven?
03:58I have found three Thai restaurants in Leipzig.
04:03I am sorting them by rating.
04:06Australians have spent $27 billion on Apple products, Siri, since 2002, and yet your company
04:12has paid the ATO just $193 million.
04:14Why?
04:15New message from Busby Maru.
04:19I want my lawnmower back.
04:25Siri, I must insist on an answer.
04:28Siri?
04:32Oh, the battery's run out.
04:37Same thing happened on Q&A this week with George Brandis.
04:40And coming up later in the program, is it time to increase the GSC?
04:46Yes, according to economist Hank Sausage from the Ponds Institute of Public Affairs.
04:50Why would that be the case?
04:52Well, I've also studied the forward estimates, and in my opinion, an increase of 2% in the
04:55GST to 12% would avoid the need for any more government cuts.
04:59Right.
05:00Have you done any modelling?
05:02Oh.
05:02You think I could?
05:09Hello.
05:10But what about how your tax dollars are spent here at the ABC?
05:13Well, next week, the ABC airs an investigative report into its own use of resources.
05:17Is it value for money?
05:18Is it guilty of waste?
05:20Here's a preview.
05:20Managing Director Mark Scott told this recent Heads of Department lunch that staff had no
05:28reason to feel guilty about their working conditions.
05:31Grounds Maintenance Officer Posey knocked Lofty.
05:34Yeah, well, I suppose it's roomy, but I've got to keep all my blood and bone receipts somewhere.
05:41But some staff are wary of the review.
05:45Eugene Yott says that after years of cutbacks in his area, there's no more fat to be trimmed.
05:51Eugene has been the conga drummer in the ABC's Department of Legal and Business Affairs for
05:5617 years, joining the department after stints with Mother Goose, Broderick Smith and Stylus.
06:02Yeah, I could be making more money elsewhere.
06:04Touring and ABC editorial policies are looking for a new percussionist, and that'll be more
06:08money than I'm getting here.
06:09So we run a pretty lean operation.
06:12Excuse me.
06:13Yeah.
06:14All right.
06:16Yeah, yeah, I'll get on to it.
06:17Six, eight?
06:18Yep.
06:18OK.
06:20Sorry.
06:20And you can have your say on the ABC efficiency review by going onto our website, or more
06:33efficiently, by just slagging the ABC off on Talkback Radio.
06:38Still to come.
06:41Labor's front bench overlooked as opposition leader chooses more popular life forms to stand
06:45behind him at press conference.
06:47And Dalai Lama makes surprise appearance in the United States.
06:54Well, the Coliseum, Machu Picchu, the Parthenon, Stonehenge, Anchor Wat, Easter Island, and the
07:01Treasury of Petra.
07:03All ruins that attract millions of tourist dollars to the country they happen to be plonked in.
07:08Far more money than these things would have generated had they been looked after properly
07:11in the first place.
07:12Greg Hunt, as Minister for the Environment, knows the value of a partially destroyed wonder,
07:16whether it be by dumping dredged spoil in the Great Barrier Reef, allowing cows to eat
07:21Victoria's national alpine park, or releasing 70,000 hectares of heritage-listed Tasmanian
07:27forest back into the wild.
07:28It's just creating a level playing field, isn't it, enviro-governmentalist Damien Scranton?
07:33Particularly in the case of deforestation, Sean.
07:36I mean, we may have even lowered the playing field down in Tassie after they get all the
07:39coal and gas out of the Derwent Valley.
07:41But I think what people need to understand is that if we want tourists to come and visit
07:45our wide brown land, it has to be brown.
07:48Otherwise it's false advertising.
07:50Alright.
07:50So I can understand risking coral and trees, but Mr Hunt also granted Western Australia
07:55permission to kill sharks.
07:56In what sense is he an Environment Minister?
07:58The sea is no different from the forest, Sean, or the ocean.
08:02It's the law of the jungle.
08:03Dog eat dog.
08:04Survival of the fittest.
08:06The shark is a killing machine.
08:08And to suggest that it's somehow wrong to set up a government-sanctioned scheme to kill
08:12them back, it's hypocritical.
08:14Aside from that, what they're doing over in WA is culling these animals.
08:19We found that by changing the vowel sound, it doesn't sound so bad.
08:22What about stopping carbon tax auctions and closing down the Climate Commission?
08:28Is that the sort of thing that an Environment Minister should be doing?
08:30Listen, Greg rang the head of the Climate Commission himself, Tim Flannery, personally,
08:35to tell him they were pulling the plug.
08:36And not because he doesn't believe in climate change or carbon, but because he enjoys Tim's
08:41writing and wants him to get back to doing what he does best, writing novels.
08:45Well, they're not novels, though.
08:47I mean, Tim Flannery writes non-fiction.
08:48The point is that climate, if it even exists, cannot be reversed.
08:54Man, like every other organism on the planet, from the mightiest tree stump to the most bleached
08:59piece of coral, is going to die eventually anyway.
09:02Now, personally, I'd much rather stick my head in the mouth of a shark skeleton in a museum
09:06than a live one down at Cottesloe Beach.
09:09Thank you, Damien.
09:10But it's not just the Minister for the Environment who's leading the charge for big government
09:14to get out of the way and let the market look after things.
09:17Our Prime Minister, too, trusts the common sense of the Aussie humanoids who inhabit our
09:21country, Australia.
09:22When he looks at loggers, he doesn't see people who are environmental vandals.
09:26Well, actually, let him tell you for himself.
09:29I don't see people who are environmental vandals.
09:32Yes, I see people who are the ultimate conservationists.
09:37That's what I see.
09:39Well, is that what you see, too, eco-warrior Dimity Flickert?
09:43Sean, I guess cutting down these trees and turning them into planks of wood that eventually
09:48go to make up the floorboards of well-built houses is a way of ultimately conserving them.
09:54Certainly, they'd be less likely to die of natural causes, but, you know, do you call people
09:59who make marmalade citrus conservationists?
10:02Well, maybe the Prime Minister is calling loggers conservationists in the same way he
10:06calls himself a feminist.
10:10In more a sort of meaningless way.
10:13I don't think anyone knows what they're talking about these days, Sean.
10:17True.
10:18Here's Christine Milne trying to suggest Tony Abbott is being ecologically reckless.
10:22Well, I think he's demonstrated that he's a dig it up, cut it down Prime Minister.
10:27I mean, that doesn't make any sense at all, does it?
10:30You don't dig up a tree and then cut it down, do you?
10:33Professor Ian Orbspider.
10:35That's right.
10:36Professor Sean.
10:37However, you underestimate the science at the heart of this government's lack of understanding
10:41about the environment, and in particular, its continued climate change denial.
10:45Professor, you intrigue me.
10:47Well, let me elucidate.
10:48Well, repealing the carbon tax will finally free up Australian business to pump as much
10:53carbon dioxide into the atmosphere as it wants.
10:55Now, normally, our friends the trees would take this carbon dioxide and turn it into lovely
10:59oxygen via a chemical process that any idiot could tell you is called a photosynthesis.
11:04Well, one just did now.
11:05However, by digging up and cutting down 70,000 hectares of heritage-delisted forest, Tasmania
11:13will end up with less oxygen and more carbon dioxide, and that will lead to an increase
11:18in global warming.
11:19Well, that's bad.
11:20No, it's good, because an increase in global warming leads to the more marked climate extremes
11:25that cause bushfires.
11:27Now, over time, these bushfires will become larger, more numerous and more severe, and
11:31as we all know, require enormous resources to control, policemen, firefighters, helicopters,
11:36et cetera, and that means more jobs for Tasmania.
11:40Well, well, that is good.
11:41No, that's bad, because eventually there'll be fewer forests to catch fire, thus less of
11:45a need for the emergency services and an increase in unemployment.
11:48Are you sure about all this?
11:49You can't go wrong, Sean, if you rely on the immutable correctness of science.
11:54And may God strike me down where it otherwise.
11:56Well, fair enough.
12:00I can't argue against that, Professor.
12:01Thank you very much indeed.
12:09Time now, though, for some political science.
12:15Well, does a butterfly flapping its wings in Brazil cause a hurricane in Texas?
12:21This theory was originally posited by Edward Lorenz, Professor of Experimental Mathematics
12:26at MIT back in 1969.
12:28He decided...
12:28Excuse me, just one moment.
12:30Hello, what?
12:31Yes?
12:32No, no, it's not boring.
12:33It's an important thing for the set-up.
12:36Well, I don't think they're going to switch over to My Kitchen Rules just because we're not
12:39being interesting.
12:40On that logic, nobody watched the ABC.
12:43Or My Kitchen Rules.
12:45All right then, goodbye.
12:45Anyway, I was watching my criterion collection of proceedings in the Senate the other night
12:51when I came across this refinement of Professor Lorenz's theory by Western Australian Green
12:56Senator Scott Ludlam.
12:58The reason that I extend this invitation to you, Mr Prime Minister, to spend as much time
13:03as you can spare in Western Australia is that every time you open your mouth, the Green
13:08vote goes up.
13:10So I thought what we do is conduct a bit of an experiment, okay?
13:13So have a look at this.
13:26Okay.
13:27Now, by my calculations, there should be a substantial swing to the Greens in the up-and-coming
13:32state elections.
13:33We'll keep you posted on that.
13:35But as much as I admire Scott Ludlam's plain-speaking voice talking, I do take exception to what next
13:40he said in terms of word utterances.
13:42Take your heartless, racist exploitation of people's fears and ram it as far from Western
13:49Australia as your taxpayer-funded travel entitlements can take you.
13:53Now, reading between the lines, I take this as a veiled criticism of our Prime Minister.
14:01Specifically, his use of travel entitlements.
14:04Now, our Mr Abbott might be a lot of things, or he might be nothing.
14:07It's not for me to say.
14:09But what he isn't is somebody who takes advantage of his travel entitlements.
14:12In fact, very, very early in the new regime, it was reported that Mr Abbott travelled economy
14:17on a flight from Sydney to Paris.
14:20And it's not just our PM not rorting his travel allowances.
14:23Our Foreign Minister, Julie Bishop, recently travelled business class to New York rather
14:27than first class, rejected her department's plans to book her into a $1,800-a-night hotel
14:32and did her own ironing.
14:35Very impressive, particularly the ironing.
14:37I mean, her hair looks fantastic.
14:40And other Coalition parliamentary service providers are following suit.
14:44Deputy PM Warren Truss regularly travels as cargo.
14:47Greg Hunt and Eric Hutchinson only travelled by freight train.
14:52And Speaker of the House, Bronwyn Bishop, insists on getting to and from Parliament
14:56covered in a tarpaulin in a manure cart.
14:59Absolutely amazing stuff.
15:01And before we go to the break, who is more witty and charming?
15:04World leader, Barack Obama?
15:06Basically, I'm here to announce that we're building Iron Man.
15:08I'm going to blast off in a second.
15:18Or opposition leader, Bill Shorten?
15:20He's not acting as a Labour secret agent to help try and fix it, although Kevin's a man
15:25of remarkable talents.
15:29The answer when we return.
15:30Tonight on ABC1, Stephen Fry's QI.
15:41Then at 9 o'clock, Sir David Attenborough narrates Fry's hair.
15:45The first in a five-part documentary exploring the way Stephen Fry's hairstyle has changed through
15:50the years.
15:50Then at 10.30, it's the Fry's stakeout.
15:5324-hour CCTV coverage of the car park where an unconfirmed former schoolmate of Stephen Fry's
15:59now works two days a week.
16:01Tonight on your ABC.
16:09Not Bill Shorten and welcome back.
16:11All right.
16:12Stopwatch ready and go.
16:14We're more than happy to take the shackles off Qantas.
16:17All right, stop.
16:17What is that?
16:182.22 seconds.
16:19All right.
16:20Can the Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, beat me?
16:22Reset and go.
16:24Well, we are more than happy.
16:27We are more than happy to take the shackles off Qantas.
16:31Yeah, yeah.
16:31We are more than happy to take the shackles off Qantas and that's what we want to do.
16:37All right.
16:37Stop.
16:38All right.
16:38Oh, oh, oh.
16:39Bad luck.
16:40Bad luck.
16:40Nearly.
16:41Just four times as long.
16:43So what's going on?
16:44Alan Parsons from the Prime Minister's office.
16:46The fact that Mr Abbott was more than happy about something wasn't that interesting the
16:49first time, let alone the third, why doesn't he trust us to keep up with normal human speech
16:53rates?
16:55Well, Sean, I don't think.
17:02I don't think it's how long it takes to say something.
17:09I don't think it's how long it takes to say something.
17:15I don't think it's that.
17:17What's more important, what's more important is what you actually say.
17:29What you actually say is more important.
17:36What you say is more important than how long it takes to say it.
17:50And I think we should take as long as we need, as long as we need, as long as we need, we
18:05should take as long as we need to say whatever it is that we want to actually say.
18:19Because that's more important.
18:24It's more important, far more important than, you know, how long it takes to say it.
18:48Mr. Parsons, thanks for our time.
19:00But this is not a recent problem for the Prime Minister.
19:03According to a study from the Voice Research Laboratory at Sydney University, Mr. Abbott is
19:07currently speaking 100 words a minute slower than before the election.
19:11And also that his speech delivery resembles that of a puppet.
19:18That's harsh words.
19:19And I noticed that the Sydney Morning Herald prefers to gutlessly print them on paper rather
19:23than say them out aloud.
19:24But is our nation's leader really like a slow-talking marionette?
19:27Let's, let's have a comparison.
19:39Well, well, that, that, that footage was, was from before the election.
19:46And, uh, I do have to say that Mr. Abbott was a little difficult to understand, even back
19:54then.
19:55Here he is, though, more recently in action on the parliamentary floor.
19:59I had a wobble or two.
20:00I had a wobble or two.
20:02So, I, I apologise.
20:04That was Channel 10's morning show, Wake Up.
20:07Mind you, I don't see why I should apologise for it.
20:09They're the ones putting it to air.
20:10Anyway, uh, Tony Abbott, I think you'll agree, sounded, sounded pretty human there.
20:15But I, I don't think he's speaking any more slowly than he used to.
20:18Have a look at this from December of last year.
20:21Team, made that promise.
20:23Why won't you repeat it now?
20:24Is that because you're going to break it?
20:28Uh, Andrew, I'm happy to say that under the coalition, schools will get the same quantum
20:35of funding over the four years that they would have, under Labor, had it been re-elected.
20:42Yeah, look, it sounds very slow.
20:44It sounds like he's talking to an idiot.
20:52But on the other side of the chamber, it's good to see what's-his-name is finally making
20:57his presence felt.
20:58In the space of only a few short months, particularly February, he's gone from this...
21:03Happy New Year.
21:05...to this.
21:07These people opposite are the cheese-eating surrender monkeys of Australia's jobs.
21:13Wow.
21:13Wow, what a firebrand.
21:15He reminds me of a young Gough Whitlam.
21:18Maybe a 13-year-old Gough.
21:20And a Gough who obviously watched The Simpsons instead of reading Alexander Pope.
21:25Mind you, The Simpsons isn't Bill Shorten's only cultural touchstone.
21:29The chief womble of the National Party, Warren Truss.
21:33Hmm.
21:33Opposition leader clearly taking advantage of the parliamentary toy library.
21:40But others in typical Labor are finally becoming more visible and audible, due in part to your
21:45efforts, I think, Opposition Media Manager Tanya Tonka-Tuff.
21:47We've got some great ideas for getting our guys out there, Sean.
21:52The first thing we want to do is get Anthony Albanese back on the Rage couch.
21:56Oh, yes.
21:57It's...
21:57Look, it's a great look for Albo.
22:01Clearly a great look for Albo and could do really well with our younger demo.
22:05Yeah.
22:05But getting on Rage is still just preaching to the already converted ABC left, isn't it?
22:09Yeah, well, we've cast our net pretty wide this time, Sean.
22:13We had a terrific photo op with Kim Carr yesterday.
22:16Mm-hm.
22:16Oh, wow.
22:18Wow.
22:18What's going on there?
22:19Um, I have no idea.
22:21But it's going to be on page 23 of tomorrow's Dandenong Leader.
22:24All right.
22:25But Tanya, Tanya, print is dead.
22:27And so is TV if it doesn't involve hammering a nail into a tap-dancing kitchen bun.
22:31Yeah.
22:32Well, that's why we're going with more of an online presence now.
22:35So we're redressing the latest party press releases as clickbait for the news.com.au website.
22:41And it's just totally going off.
22:43I think we can see some things here.
22:45Yep.
22:46Are you Joel Fitzgibbon?
22:47What are the five signs you're Joel Fitzgibbon?
22:50Take our chest.
22:50The results may surprise you.
22:52Wow.
22:52And also, Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen went to an ATM.
22:56You won't believe what happened next.
22:58Well, I'm hooked.
22:59What did happen next?
23:00Nothing.
23:01Classic, Chris.
23:03Thanks very much, Tanya.
23:05Still to come.
23:07Clive Palmer successfully blocks Quattus Sales Amendment by just standing in front of it.
23:13And Tony Abbott's speech at the National Committee of Unwomen.
23:19And the National Committee of Unwomen is, of course, the new name for Federal Cabinet.
23:25Sports next with Maggie Bathysphere.
23:27But first up, sport.
23:28And Maggie and the team are still in the Fish Stadium commentary box for the Sochi Winter
23:36Paralympics, where hopefully our differently abled athletes aren't as useless as our regularly
23:40abled ones.
23:41Actually, Sean, we got out of Russia on the weekend after we received a travel alert that
23:46Kevin Rudd had arrived.
23:48With Europe already poised on the brink of war, we thought things are only going to escalate
23:52once Kevin O'Armageddon started slapping his guns.
23:54Now, typical Labor.
23:56So where are you?
23:57Brazil, Sean.
23:58The World Cup's only 92 days away and we wanted to get a good car park, so...
24:03Yeah, that was a shock lost by the Socceroos to Ecuador last week, wasn't it, Max?
24:07Holy frajoli, Sean.
24:09What the hell was going on there?
24:11Three goals up, only to choke like the town of Morwell in the last minute.
24:15Talk about divided loyalties.
24:18Whose side do you reckon Julian Assange was on?
24:21Although after that performance, I'd say most of the team would be well advised to seek
24:25diplomatic immunity in a friendly embassy.
24:27Don't speak Ecuadorian myself, Sean, but it was very poor for four.
24:32Alright, thanks very much, Max.
24:35I don't think he got it.
24:36Threats, intimidation, corruption, the cornerstones of the building industry since Cheops built
24:49his first pyramid.
24:50But like anything built with only three corners, it needs investigating.
24:54And the Abbott Trust Government have pledged to purge the CFMEU and make sure there's no
24:58room in the building industry for big guys who use muscle to get that room built in the
25:02first place.
25:03But how?
25:03The Australian Building and Construction Commission was closed down by typical labour, and looking
25:08at this secretly filmed footage of the old commission's methods, it's easy to see why.
25:14So I think we'll tender for it and keep our fingers crossed.
25:17Okay, well I'll put some figures together.
25:20Hello, boys.
25:21Nice place you got here.
25:23Be ashamed if something happened to it.
25:27Now, Mr Commissioner, I run a perfectly legitimate business here.
25:31Really, Guido?
25:31See, that's not what I heard.
25:33A little bird told me that you might be something of a leg-breaker.
25:36No, I'm a broker.
25:38A registered broker.
25:39Oh, I see.
25:40I'm so sorry.
25:41I must have misheard.
25:42You see, the ABCC, where we hear so many things, sometimes we get a bit confused.
25:47We don't know what we're doing.
25:51Everything's above board, Mr Commissioner.
25:52Mad Dog will back me up, won't you, Mad Dog?
25:54Yes.
25:54Right, so no threats, no intimidation?
25:58No, Commissioner.
25:59I swear.
26:00See, the judge here, he don't like threats or intimidation, do you, Judge?
26:05Let's talk about this.
26:07Can I get you a drink, Mr Commissioner?
26:09A cup of tea or something?
26:11A cup of tea?
26:12Guido, you wouldn't be trying to offer me a bribe now, would you?
26:15No.
26:16No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
26:17There's a judge here, he don't like that sort of thing, do you, Judge?
26:20I don't think he wouldn't mind a cup of tea.
26:22All there's upending furniture is thirsty work.
26:25Violence.
26:26It's all very funny until someone gets hurt.
26:28Well, not coming up because we've totes run out of time.
26:33Charter for Royal Australian Mint, a licence to print money, says soon-to-be-sacked comedy writer.
26:39Darren Hinch released from prison, but his beard to serve an extra 50 days for being unruly.
26:44And bad news for Rocky fans.
26:46Musical version to Go Ahead.
26:52Well, finally, hats off, and indeed the tops of our skulls as well,
26:56to News Limited, who scooped everyone again last week with the new Justin Bieber clip,
27:00which they ran on their news sites.
27:02It was shot by the Miami Police Department, it's called Giving a Urine Sample.
27:06He's clearly going for a simpler paired back feel, excluding not only music, but any sound at all.
27:10And the clip seems to suggest that he has a strangely shaped penis, or maybe it's just the angle.
27:15But either way, well done to News Limited.
27:17No one else is running this daring video, so respect.
27:20And of course, it has gone viral, so perhaps you should have washed his hands more.
27:26Goodbye.
27:27I can hear a cricket.
27:41Listen, everyone be quiet for a sec.
27:43Now, it's never a good sign in a comedy show when you can hear a cricket.
27:54Just, it's probably my conscience.
27:57I can hear a cricket.
27:57I can hear a cricket.
28:12I can hear a Debatte.