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If Jordan took in more Palestinians, there would be 'security, economic, and political implications'
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2/12/2025
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Just as Donald Trump raises the ante with a Saturday deadline he's imposed for Hamas to hand over all remaining
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Israeli hostages just as he keeps up the pressure on Egypt and Jordan to take in Palestinians who
00:13
Would be permanently shipped out of the Gaza Strip under Trump's idea the US president
00:19
Welcoming the King of Jordan Abdullah to the White House at this hour
00:25
Donald Trump's ultimatum
00:27
Suggested by Israel's cabinet earlier, which convened behind closed doors to discuss whether to stick with the current
00:35
Phase-one of the ceasefire deal with Hamas
00:38
Delano D'Souza has more
00:43
Fresh warning from the US president that puts an already fragile ceasefire in Gaza at risk
00:50
Donald Trump says he wants all hostages held by Hamas released on Saturday
00:55
Trump's latest statement flies in the face of the current truce agreed to between Israel and Hamas
01:01
if all of the hostages aren't returned by
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Saturday at 12 o'clock. I think it's an appropriate time. I would say
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cancel it and all bets are off and
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Let hell break out
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I'd say they ought to be returned by 12 o'clock on Saturday
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All of them not in drips and drabs not two and one and three and four and two
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The latest statement from the US president comes a week after he floated the idea of the United States taking over the Gaza Strip
01:33
While that proposal deemed outlandish has been rejected by Arab states
01:38
Trump appears to be digging in his heels and now suggests
01:41
Palestinians currently living in Gaza won't have the right to return once the enclave is rebuilt
01:49
No, they wouldn't because they're gonna have much better housing much better
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In other words, I'm talking about building a permanent place for them because if they have to return now
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It'll be years before you could ever it's not habitable
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It will be years before it could happen. I'm talking about starting to build and I think I could make a deal with Jordan
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I think I could make a deal with Egypt
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Hamas says the latest threat from Donald Trump complicates the Gaza truce in place on
02:15
Monday the militant group threatened to delay the next release of hostages slated for the weekend
02:20
It came after Israel sent back a low-level delegation from talks in Doha aimed at expanding the ceasefire
02:27
UN officials are calling on all sides to stick to the deal in place as
02:31
Fears mount the conflict in the enclave could reignite once again
02:37
For more let's cross to Washington and correspondent Fraser Jackson
02:42
Fraser there's
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While the king of Jordan is at the White House behind you
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The Israeli Prime Minister who seems to be picking up the ball and running with it
02:56
Saying if Hamas does not return hostages by Saturday noon
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The ceasefire will end and the military will return to intensive fighting. That's on top of
03:06
Reports by the Associated Press of troop movements on the part of the Israelis
03:10
Inside in and around Gaza the Israelis following Donald Trump and taking him at his word it seems
03:22
Yeah, I think you can that press conference that we saw last week from Donald Trump when Netanyahu was here visiting the White House
03:28
Really said it all the luck when Netanyahu's face
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He was had a he had a slight smirk and it was very clear to see that
03:34
this is the kind of administration that has been wanting to deal with for the last year and a half and
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That is evidenced by some of the comments he made on Monday where he said that the meeting with Donald Trump was one of the
03:44
Most productive and revealing that he's had with any US president
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so very clear that Netanyahu here is singing from Donald Trump's hymn sheets the kind of
03:54
Move that we've seen from Donald Trump of hope wanting to redevelop the Gaza Strip and turn it into the Riviera of the Middle East
04:00
Is the kind of thing that Netanyahu?
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Has been has been dreaming of really so definitely the kind of president that he wants is back in the Oval Office
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However, it is going to make things more difficult for the other members of the other countries in the region including Jordan and Egypt
04:16
Donald Trump obviously here today with the king of Jordan to discuss this matter. Donald Trump has threatened to withhold aid
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He said that he would conceivably withhold aid from Jordan
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Should they not take in the Palestinians from the Gaza Strip?
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But of course that is a red line for many Arab nations, especially Jordan
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They have a very pro-palestinian
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Segment of their population around two or so million of the 11 million people in Jordan are either palestinian or of palestinian descent
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So at any movement to take the Palestinians out of Gaza and house them in Jordan
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Would then put the the monarchy in Jordan a very precarious
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Position and they are very very aware of that
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It could upset the apple cart in their own country and ultimately lead to some kind of coup
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That is what the what the Jordanian authorities are worried about. We're told from sources that the Jordanians
05:10
Wanted this to be a quieter meeting with with the with the president. We're not seeing we're not seeing any press
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Press sprays before or after it. There's no press conference after this either
05:22
The only thing currently open to the press today at the White House was the arrival that we saw a while ago of the king
05:29
Of Jordan and his departure
05:31
So it is a very very delicate situation as the Jordanians and the Egyptians especially try to navigate this
05:38
I'm also told from sources that the Arab League will be having having a meeting on the 27th of February where the
05:44
Aim is to create a unified position which will state that there will be no transfer of Palestinians that the ceasefire talks
05:52
Will continue the negotiations will continue and that the two-state solution will be put forward as the only solution
05:58
So there's a bit of a game of hardball here between
06:01
Players in the region and the United States who wants to have its own way
06:05
But of course some of those things that Donald Trump wants are red lines for their allies in the region and and Fraser
06:11
what what are the reactions first off at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue on Capitol Hill and
06:17
Throughout the United States when Donald Trump ups the ante like he did saying release all the hostages
06:23
come Saturday
06:28
Well, I think everybody in the United States wants the hostages to be released that's not really ever been in question
06:34
It's been like that ever since the hostages were taken back in October
06:38
2023 but the way that things are being dealt with is a different story, of course the
06:45
Democrats and the Republicans alike both say that Hamas is a terrorist organization that
06:50
You know that they should not be being dealt with they should have it
06:53
They're in no position to be putting forward demands
06:55
But the question as to how this is is being done. It's really being raised the Republicans, of course
07:02
Mostly support Donald Trump that have been some some voices that have questions his way of doing things
07:07
I think a lot of people aren't really taking too seriously
07:10
His calls to redevelop the Middle East a lot of people see that as a non-starter
07:14
But that clearly is not getting through to the White House because Donald Trump has doubled down on that
07:19
Multiple times as recently as the flights on Air Force One on Sunday
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And when we spoke to Donald Trump just as he met the king as he was going in
07:28
We asked whether Hamas would would give in to Donald Trump's demands and he said yes, he thinks they will
07:35
Fraser Jackson reporting live there from the White House. Many. Thanks for that update for more. Let's go to Rome and
07:41
Jordanian geopolitics analyst Amir al-sabeli. Thank you for being with us here on France 24
07:50
Thanks you my pleasure
07:52
first off
07:54
your your thoughts on what
07:57
room to maneuver the king of Jordan has
08:00
Right now sitting in the White House
08:03
Well, you know, this is a long waiting moment and I think
08:06
This is not an easy mission for the king. I think it's the first time we face
08:13
Such situation going to the White House with a clear
08:17
Idea that the American president has he already expressed what he has in mind. So I think the tough mission today is to
08:25
Rationalize his vision and to offer something and I think for Jordan, you know, it's a bit different from any other country
08:32
We are military allies
08:34
There's a political ties very strong political ties
08:38
So I think Jordan can can use now all its strategic cars when it when talking to President Trump
08:44
Definitely. It's hard to say no to the president at this moment
08:47
but I think Jordan can still try to explain its concerns fears from the implications that such that might
08:56
Generate in Jordan and then on other side
08:58
It can show how Jordan as a trusted ally to the u.s
09:02
can play a major role also in the region together with Americans whether in Syria and Iraq or
09:09
Whether from a kid an economy point of view when it comes to regional cooperation and big projects in the region, so I guess
09:17
This is a chance also to get out
09:20
And talk to the Americans not just with the problems of Gaza
09:24
but the problems of the region as a package and here I think the Jordanian role might matter and
09:29
The vision of Jordan might be listened to in a very different way. Okay
09:35
Your your point is well taken if you look back to when Trump was first in office
09:41
during his first term
09:44
he would make big state bold statements and then he would
09:50
Temper them according to whoever was in the room with him. Is that still the case though today has Donald Trump changed perhaps?
09:59
When many things has changed even the Middle East has changed we cannot compare
10:04
The Middle East at that time to the Middle East after the 7th of October
10:09
This is for sure the second that we are dealing with the president who thinks that he has just four years left
10:14
He's like has been in the office for a few weeks. He looks very strong. He wants to look decisive
10:20
He wants to impose his vision. He wants to be because you heard you were sorry to interrupt
10:25
You heard our correspondent say that some analysts and some players don't take too seriously
10:31
His claim that he can redevelop the Gaza Strip
10:35
Do you take him seriously when he makes big statements like this? I?
10:40
Take him seriously at this moment because of the timing it's his first days in office, but I know that
10:46
Practically speaking when it comes to solution, it's very complicated. There's a lot of complications ahead. It's not easy to solve
10:53
It's not easy to make it that easy as a solution
10:56
And that's why I said we need to rationalize his vision like at this moment
10:59
We know that he he wants to show that he is the one who can bring solution
11:05
We can impose solutions on everybody
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So I think by time he would realize that sometimes all what was said is really difficult to be done
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So I think the Jordanian role here is exactly this is to show the president the difficulties
11:20
alive in this project and the implications that a country and a lie trusted a lie like Jordan has
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When it comes to this vision, so I guess I won't say I don't take him seriously
11:33
I would take him seriously
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But at the same time I would like as well to advocate my case as Jordanian and show the risk that such vision
11:43
will
11:44
Will generate enjoy what would be the consequences domestically for Jordan if it took in more Palestinians?
11:50
well, definitely there will be three implications security implication economics implications and
11:58
political implications
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there is a
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clear impact of export exporting this
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Palestinian case to others like Jordan and its implications definitely will make will make
12:12
A kind of change in the structure of the society would it threaten would it threaten the political structure of Jordan?
12:19
Would it threaten the the country how it stands politically now with its king?
12:25
Definitely definitely it will weaken the regime and it will show that the Jordanians the East bankers
12:32
They will not be that happy of having more demographic increase
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And at the same time we know that this is a long term will change the political identity of the country itself
12:43
Having more Palestinians more and more Palestinians and at the same time
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Even economically Jordan cannot afford such steps
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So from all levels, I don't think that it's that easy and it will never
12:58
It will never
13:00
Let Jordan pass this phase without really having this implications
13:05
inside the country Prime Minister Netanyahu putting out a video statement in the last minutes saying that
13:12
The ceasefire in Gaza would end if Hamas did not return hostages on Saturday
13:17
He doesn't say all hostages, but he says hostages by Saturday noon
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Quote the military will return to intense fighting until Hamas is finally defeated your reaction
13:28
Well, definitely it was from from day one the stages or the phases on which the agreement was built
13:34
It showed that it is really fragile and weak on the second phase second
13:38
I think what he's saying is really backed up by the president the American president who said that by Saturday at
13:45
12 if this if all hostages were not released then things will change it means that
13:51
Netanyahu today after his meeting with Trump is preparing himself for phase two of escalation that might start in Gaza
13:58
But I don't think that it will be limited to Gaza. I think the whole region all the agreements from Lebanon to
14:05
To Gaza were really weak and we might witness a new wave of escalation
14:11
And we have Jordan's King
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Speaking now to reporters asked about taking in Palestinians saying we have to keep in mind
14:19
How we do make this work that is in everyone's best interest
14:25
Saying he'll take in 2,000 children who are ill
14:31
trying to not
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Upset his host there as he stands in the White House
14:37
addressing
14:39
reporters
14:40
Amer also Bailey. I want to thank you for being with us from Rome
14:43
Thanks to you stay with us as much more to come here on France 24 more news plus the day's business and in sports
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