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00:00É um lugar bom para crescer.
00:04Muito bom.
00:15Você quer uma boa mãe ou uma boa mãe?
00:19Uma boa mãe.
00:21Olá?
00:30Olá?
00:31Sim?
00:32Podemos falar?
00:33O que?
00:34Eu não posso pensar em falar sobre o meu pai.
00:37O que?
00:38Estou terminando a minha vida muito bem?
00:40O que você está falando?
00:42Nós fizemos a melhor coisa.
00:44O que você quer dizer?
00:46Você disse que tinha uma tinta.
00:48Eu não sei o que você está falando.
00:50Eu vou fazer uma tinta.
00:51Você pode fazer o que você quer fazer.
00:53Você pode fazer o que você quer fazer.
00:54Você pode fazer a verdade?
00:55Eu não sei o que a verdade é.
00:57O que você está falando?
00:58Eu estou falando de Deus.
01:00Eu estou falando de Deus.
01:01Você pode ir onde você quer e fazer o que você quer fazer.
01:04Eu estou falando de Deus.
01:06Eu estou falando de Deus.
01:07Eu estou falando de Deus.
01:08Eu estou falando de Deus.
01:09Eu estou fazendo três anos.
01:10Eu estou tuneindo ao mesmo tempo.
01:11Eu estou tendo a mesmer de Deus.
01:12Tudo bem.
01:13Tive a mesma coisa.
01:14Meu nome é Cori, eu estou 30 anos, ainda estou ajustando ao mesmo tempo de 30.
01:27Minha vida agora eu estou bastante orgulhosa.
01:32Eu tenho um bom trabalho, uma família, mas, estatístico, eu não deveria estar aqui.
01:39Eu não posso dizer quantas vezes eu estive perto de uma morte.
01:50Eu estou a ter a maioria da minha vida se sentindo escutado,
01:54sabendo o que está em meu passado e o que escuro é.
01:59Eu deveria ter falado há muito tempo, ou eu deveria ter ficado adicionado a algo,
02:04para desculpar a dor.
02:09Eu estou a ter a maioria das pessoas.
02:39I was the very first one that arrives on scene.
02:44I go up to the door.
02:47Okay, are you there by yourself?
02:49Yes.
02:51What's your mom's name?
02:52Judith.
02:53Judith?
02:56Have you called your mom?
02:58No.
02:58Okay, we're going to call her for you, okay?
03:01Corey opens the door to me.
03:05I've known Corey since he's very little.
03:09This was a 10-year-old child.
03:13He takes hold of my hand.
03:15He wants me to go to the back of the room where his dad was.
03:19I didn't know what I was going to see.
03:22But I walked into the bedroom.
03:25I immediately saw his dad, Robert.
03:30It was clear that he had been shot in the head.
03:33And there was nothing that could be done at that point.
03:36And so I went out, and now I've got to deal with a 10-year-old that's just broken.
03:48I was crying.
03:52And I was stunned, shocked, transfixed.
03:58I knew my dad was gone, but I was just in disbelief.
04:06I can remember Corey saying, save my dad.
04:09He's my best friend.
04:09I knew Robert Brenninger.
04:21He was very kind and gentle and was very family-minded.
04:26His day started and ended with Corey.
04:33He was very proud of his son.
04:35Knowing Robert and knowing Corey and just seeing this 10-year-old just broke my heart.
04:47I knew what I saw I couldn't fix, and I wasn't going to fix him.
04:53The stoop up there, where that step is, is where I sat down, and Corey's light just unraveled.
05:09Corey sits in my lap, and he was trying to tell me what had happened.
05:13I told Cliff that when I was handing my dad the gun, my finger was on the trigger, and the safety was off.
05:24And my dad had pulled it and set the gun off.
05:29I lost track of myself for a few moments there until other people come on the scene.
05:35And then I started realizing that I had a job to do.
05:38I had to shift gears.
05:39All of a sudden, there were cop cars everywhere and an ambulance.
05:49Corey explains that his dad was teaching him about hunting.
05:54And that the gun went off accidentally.
05:59Some of the responders did have questions and wondered about why would this have happened this way.
06:05If you're talking to a young boy, that didn't make sense, you know, that Robert was laying in bed with earplugs on.
06:17Corey told the EMT that after the gun accidentally went off, he immediately dropped the firearm,
06:23but the rifle was found on the other side of Robert from where the shooting was.
06:28So that was also inconsistent.
06:29Those questions, while I think in some people's minds, did not really get explored very well.
06:39I was allowing my emotions to control a lot of my thought that day.
06:44Nothing goes past my mind other than that this is accidental.
06:48That's what I was hearing from Corey.
06:50And that's what my eyes allowed me to see that day.
07:01I remember Corey's mom, Judith, showing up.
07:05She asked me if she could take Corey away from the scene.
07:07I just remember Judith sitting down, putting her arm around my neck and telling me to stop.
07:19I can't forget that, how cold she was.
07:22I remember driving by the house right after it happened.
07:30I'm having, like, that eerie, weird feeling, like that something wasn't right.
07:36We had heard that, you know, it was a hunting sort of accident,
07:41and that, you know, Corey was there with Rob alone.
07:46Robert was experienced in hunting and safety and all those things.
07:50I grew up in a very small town in Ohio.
08:14We had just one street that ran through it and then a railroad track.
08:18There was probably 50 or 60 people, no more.
08:24My parents were Robert Brinegar and Wendy Belt.
08:29But by the time I have any real memories, they were already divorced.
08:36Some of my earliest memories would probably be out in the barn with my dad.
08:43He was always working on cars.
08:45My love of cars definitely stemmed from my dad.
08:51He always had his Mustang and, I don't know, I always saw the love and time he put into it.
08:57I loved my dad and, you know, I wanted all the time I could have with him.
09:05As soon as Judith came into our life, you know, all that went out the window.
09:10I remember the first day I met Judith with my dad.
09:17I was probably about five years old.
09:21We actually met up at a McDonald's and we had lunch together.
09:26I remember specifically calling her the yellow-haired lady because she had blonde hair.
09:33She was being super attentive.
09:35She just seemed like a nice person.
09:38I didn't know there was anything other than nice people at that point.
09:42She had a daughter that was my age.
09:53And my dad decided to buy a house and they actually moved in.
09:59Robert wanted to do the best he could for his new family.
10:02Part of that was giving them whatever he possibly could give them.
10:11I actually remember him taking a new job at a steel mill.
10:16And then, to be honest, I hardly ever saw him.
10:22Rob was working third shift and he was putting in a lot of overtime.
10:27I would say when he came home, he was certainly stressed.
10:33It was almost a, you know, a sense of irritability.
10:37He didn't really want to be bothered.
10:44Robert was the main breadwinner of the house.
10:46And it was basically Judy's responsibility to take care of the kids during the day.
10:50Judith was, you know, the provider, meaning she took care of me, oversaw what I did,
10:58and was, lack of better words, just the boss of my life.
11:03What were you doing when you started to do this?
11:05I was just playing.
11:09I actually wasn't spending a lot of time with my mother, Wendy, anymore.
11:14And so Judith decided she wanted to adopt me.
11:17She was very adamant about the adoption process, about becoming his legal guardian.
11:32This person had taken over both roles, actually, since, you know, dad was unavailable a lot.
11:40So she became both of those roles, which is difficult for Corey.
11:47She started telling my dad that, uh, I was a bad kid and that I never listened and that she didn't know why.
11:56What are you doing, Corey?
12:00Why?
12:05Why did she tell you that?
12:11Judy was having a lot of these behavior problems with Corey while Robert was at work.
12:16She would record me, and I didn't know what she was doing.
12:22So that was a way for Judy to show Robert, hey, this is what I'm dealing with during the day while you're at work.
12:29Was it clean before you started tearing it up?
12:33My dad would ask me, what's wrong with me?
12:36What's changed?
12:37And I would just say, I don't know.
12:39Well, that disconnect got so big between my dad and I, as far as he knew, I was just this problem child.
12:47The death of Robert was classified as an accidental shooting.
13:01I actually stopped there the following day to try to talk to Corey and check in on him, but Judith wouldn't let me speak to him.
13:11The troubling thing I had out of all that was is she took him back to that house that night, and they stayed there that night.
13:23And that bothered me.
13:26Living with Judith after the accident was just weird.
13:31She would pretend that it didn't happen.
13:34I think for her, it was just like no big deal.
13:38We're just going to move forward and do what we need to do, and not much thought to what had happened to him specifically, like the trauma that he endured.
13:50I didn't know what I was supposed to do.
13:52I was conflicted, and I wanted that burden to be off of me.
13:58Corey started to withdraw more as he got older, and he didn't interact because Judith didn't allow that.
14:12Life was, for everyone minus me, fine.
14:16I wasn't allowed to participate in family events or anything.
14:21I wasn't allowed to smile or have fun.
14:24He wasn't allowed to be a kid, ever.
14:28I was just supposed to be there and clean up messes, make dinner, and appease her.
14:37She was very demanding.
14:38Everything had to be perfect.
14:42Most of the neighbors were afraid of her and felt that she worked Corey hard.
14:52In the community, they did not like Judy as a neighbor.
14:58They thought she was very private.
15:02She didn't want anyone to see things.
15:04The shades were always down.
15:07If someone did knock at the door, we were never allowed to open it, and everyone had to be quiet so that, you know, they thought nobody was home.
15:15Judith always thought the neighbors were being nosy and spying on her, but she had cameras set up to record what they were doing.
15:25She did a lot of weird stuff.
15:31I think she slashed the neighbor's car tires and just was after people, more or less, you know, thinking that everyone was after her, too.
15:38The neighbors had a dog that barked a lot, so she would take poison over there in the hopes that the dog would eat it.
15:49They also fed a tree in their front yard, and Judith, for whatever reason, wanted it gone, so she would put Roundup on it and actually would have me in the middle of the night go over and dump buckets of Roundup on it.
16:07I don't know what Judith was trying to do.
16:14If she was trying to convince people she wasn't crazy, she was really doing the polar opposite of that, because I'm pretty certain everyone thought she was crazy.
16:26She isolated herself and her family from everybody.
16:30It wasn't about being alone. It was about being controlling.
16:33This was my entire childhood.
16:38Judith being in control of me was until I turned 18 and I ran away from the house.
16:51My first real connection with Corey was when he was 18 years old.
16:57He was kind of, like, asking if people knew his dad, and so he reached out to me.
17:02But quickly after that, I realized that he just really needed somebody.
17:10He just really just was lacking that support and love that he so needed.
17:17He just kind of started coming around and, you know, we were loving on him, and so he quickly became just, like, a part of our family.
17:27Most people at 18, you know, they've already done so much.
17:35I was being a kid for the first time in my life.
17:41So we always talked about, like, how, you know, now is the time to start over.
17:45Like, you get to start over.
17:46After I moved out, I was coming up on just a couple months away from graduating high school.
18:08And as a senior project from English class, we actually had to write something, and it was our biggest regret.
18:18I was up one night, and I started writing.
18:22And I just simply put into words that what happened to my dad wasn't the truth.
18:33My dad didn't die the way everyone thinks that he died.
18:36I get a call from the sheriff.
18:54He said that Corey had told the teachers the things that happened the day of the shooting was not the way it happened.
19:01I just put into words that what happened to my dad wasn't what everyone thought.
19:12So I went to Boulding High School to see what was happening.
19:19Even though it was 10 years later, it hadn't left my mind what had transpired that day.
19:26They actually sat me down, and my heart sank, because I thought I was going to jail.
19:44Do you remember what happened that day?
19:47I killed my father.
19:48I blurted out everything, and what Judith made me do.
19:59Corey tells us that he intentionally shot his father at the request of Judith.
20:10What led up to that day?
20:11I mean, obviously, she didn't wake up two days earlier and say, you're going to shoot your father.
20:18I don't know how long, maybe a month before, but she told me that he had cancer, and it was actually his idea.
20:33One day, Judith pulled me aside and said my dad was dying of her brain tumor.
20:41She continued on with, uh, that he was planning on having an accident involving a gun so that the family would be well-off from the life insurance.
20:54I think she weaponized him just by convincing him that's what his father wanted.
21:06I got off the bus, and she was standing there waiting.
21:08She put her hand around my neck, and she said, today's the day you're going to kill your dad.
21:19I just remember looking at her, and she forced my head forward and proceeded to tell me that the gun was in the laundry room waiting on me.
21:27She also told me that I was to wait a couple minutes as her and her daughter were going to go to her mother's house
21:40and then go into the room where my dad was sleeping.
21:46Since we were supposed to be talking about gun safety and hunting safety,
21:50she had bought magazines, and there was even a hat and some targets.
21:57And I was supposed to place them there to essentially make it look just as she said it was.
22:07She told me as soon as it was done that I was to call 911 and tell them that when I was handing the gun,
22:17that the gun went off, I went to his room, and he was sleeping, and he had earplugs in.
22:28And I looked at him.
22:33I remember I was crying and almost hyperventilating.
22:36And I raised the gun.
22:40I didn't look, but I pulled the trigger, and nothing happened.
22:47Just made a ping noise.
22:51And so I was, like, freaking out because I didn't know what that meant.
22:55I didn't even know anything about guns at the time.
22:58But I went to the living room to try and figure it out.
23:01I thought, you know, maybe the gun's broke.
23:05I'm 10 years old.
23:06I don't know.
23:08But when I went back in there, I was already in the mindset that the gun was broken,
23:12and it wasn't going to go off.
23:16I raised the gun and pulled the trigger.
23:21I wasn't even holding it because I thought it was broke, and it went off.
23:25I hit the wall and everything because I wasn't holding it properly, and that's what happened.
23:41I remember standing there after it happened, and I'll never forget this, but I heard my dad just take one long last breath after it happened.
24:04And then I was just in disbelief because I thought for sure the gun was broke, and that was it.
24:13But I knew he was gone because I could see everything.
24:18And then I called 911, told him my dad had been shot.
24:33I knew that right away.
24:36My dad was shot.
24:40I failed Corey that day.
24:42I wasn't hearing or seeing the things I needed to see that day.
24:45It's difficult to admit that, but that's what happened.
24:53I felt horrible, and I struggled with it too.
24:58It was a cold case in some respects, but a little different in the sense that nobody disputes that we were talking to the guy that pulled the trigger when we're talking to Corey.
25:17But we're also talking to him as an adult, so corroborating his 19-year-old account became the objective.
25:27We had enough to believe that she was the one that orchestrated this, and from that point on, started looking over everything that occurred that day.
25:39You didn't look at the flags close enough 10 years earlier.
25:43You've got to look at them now.
25:44So, what all can we learn about Judith Hockey?
25:50What other clues might be there relative to behavior, family dynamics?
25:55We spent the next year gathering, and putting things together, and trying to build a case.
26:08Investigators talked to as many people as they could find that knew Judith over the years, that knew Corey over the years, teachers, former lovers.
26:16Because we didn't want to go forward with these kinds of allegations, if we didn't believe in them.
26:29After a period of time, and after talking to past partners of her that had isolated away from their own families, and had brought destruction in their lives,
26:41we realized she was the person that Corey described.
26:46The picture was pretty clear that Judith was a very dominating personality, and had some tendencies to be almost bizarrely controlling.
27:03This is a female in life that was going to destroy anything that came in her path, as long as she was on top.
27:12It took 10 years for us to realize what had happened really that day.
27:19And shame on myself for my reactions that day.
27:22I should have thought more like an investigator instead of a father.
27:26Because all I could think of that day was how much that 10-year-old boy was hurting, and it still bothers me yet today.
27:39He was a good soul, and his soul was robbed from him that day.
27:43As our investigation continued on, I find out that less than 12 hours from the time of shooting of Robert,
27:57she was already at the place of his employment, asking for his life insurance.
28:01She was exceptionally greedy and didn't care about Robert, Corey.
28:15She cared about herself.
28:17I think it was pure evil and just greed.
28:21As the rest of the investigation unfolded, I think all of us that were part of the team became increasingly troubled, shocked, disturbed about how much Corey had suffered.
28:38We wanted Corey to make a phone call to Judith to try to tell her that he could no longer live with the secret,
28:47the lies that he had kept bottled up inside of him for the last 10 years.
28:53Hello?
28:54Hello?
28:55Yeah?
28:57Can we talk?
29:08Hey, good-looking.
29:24Their life looked like a picture-perfect life.
29:27Everybody thought he was great.
29:29We welcomed him into the family with open arms.
29:32He had everybody fooled.
29:34She saw that dark side of him that nobody else did.
29:39He had to make this look like an accident.
29:43He thought he was going to fool everybody.
29:46Brian Ewe, American Monster, Monday on ID.
29:54It is a shock.
29:57If you've never been around, murder will suddenly be summoned to one.
30:02He was well-liked.
30:03He didn't have.
30:04In a mess.
30:05So who would have done this?
30:06And so it begins.
30:08We will not go home.
30:10We will not sleep until they have the person responsible where they want him,
30:15which is standing in front of a judge.
30:17Brand new American Detective with Lieutenant Joe Kender, Wednesday on ID.
30:23Growing up in an industrial Czech City, I was as disconnected from nature as one can be.
30:34All I knew about nature is that we're losing it.
30:38But then I learned that there is hope.
30:42It can be found in our forests.
30:45We still have the space to restore one trillion trees.
30:49Can you imagine?
30:50My name is Szymon Michalczyk.
30:54Ever since I found out about this mission, I have been working to restore...
30:58...the 23rd of October on ID.
31:08Everything we gathered over that year helped concrete exactly what Corey told us.
31:13So we wanted Corey to make a phone call to see if Truth would say anything.
31:18...the 23rd of October on ID.
31:20...the 23rd of October on ID.
31:24...the 23rd of October on ID.
31:28Hello?
31:30Hello?
31:31Yeah?
31:32Can we talk?
31:34What?
31:35I just can't stop thinking about Dad and everything.
31:38Did we do the right thing?
31:40What?
31:41Did I end his life too early?
31:43I mean, what if that tumor could have been taken out?
31:46Eu não sei o que você está falando.
31:48Você disse que tinha um filho aqui.
31:50Eu não sei o que você está falando.
31:52Vou ir para um therapista.
31:53Você pode fazer o que você quer fazer.
31:55Eu não sei o que a verdade é.
31:59Eu acho que eu deveria ir para um therapista.
32:02Então, ir para onde você quer e fazer o que você quer fazer.
32:04Tudo bem.
32:06Tchau.
32:07Quando ele está cantando por ajuda e pensando em ir para um therapista,
32:10você ouviu ela uma vez que ele acordei ele a ir?
32:13Não.
32:14Não uma vez.
32:15Ela não importa o que ele fez.
32:23Meu nome é Ana Salter.
32:26Eu sou uma psíquica clínica.
32:29Eu fui contada pela procuração.
32:34Eles queriam me avaliar Corey Brenninger e entrevistar ele.
32:40Ele não estava tão forte.
32:45E ele estava muito orgulhoso.
32:48Ele estava muito orgulhoso.
32:49Ele também estava preocupado.
32:54Ele falava que se viu alguém que mesmo resemblede Judith, ele ia ficar irritado.
33:02E isso é muito tipico de pessoas que são abusos.
33:08Ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:09Ele era muito orgulhoso para qualquer coisa que lembrasse eles de origem do original abuso.
33:16Ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:17Ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:18Ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:19Ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:20Ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:22E ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:24Ele era muito orgulhoso.
33:26Eu nunca sempre me perguntava qualquer criança.
33:29Mas eu sempre nos explicava que eles estavam.
33:31Eu não sabia que isso era normal.
33:35Ele estava fazendo isso fora do meu pai.
33:40Ele estava fazendo isso fora do meu pai.
33:43Meu pai não sabia nada disso.
33:45Ela se tratava como não-humano, ela era just mal.
33:55Ele disse que ele foi batido, ele foi feito para comer feces.
34:02Ele foi meia de ele.
34:06A professora falou que ele era suspeita de a forma que ele era vestido,
34:10ele era vestido, ele era vestido, ele era vestido, ele era vestido, ele era vestido.
34:23Quando as pessoas perguntavam, ela me deixou,
34:29ela me foca principalmente no...
34:33...burning ou twisting my penis, porque...
34:37...nobody would look there.
34:42I remember this scene.
34:44I was in the bathroom, and she had a butter knife to my genitals.
34:48She was yelling at me, saying she was going to cut it off,
34:51and I heard the front door, and in came my dad.
34:57I thought for sure Judith was caught,
34:59but she just looked at him and said,
35:01Rob, look at him, he's trying to cut off his penis.
35:04And I just stopped him.
35:08My dad just looked at me and lost it.
35:11And lost it.
35:25I don't think this is a child having a temper tantrum.
35:28He's not angry.
35:30He's not throwing things with any force.
35:33You've got this sad child crying, and just picking things up,
35:39and kind of dropping them.
35:42Crying the whole time, and then hitting himself on the head.
35:46I think it's staged.
35:50She would make me destroy my room.
35:52I didn't want to do it.
35:53I didn't know why I had to do it.
35:55Yet I was forced to, and she recorded it.
35:58If Robert really believed that his son was acting out all the time,
36:05it would have reinforced the narrative that his son was a problem.
36:14I honestly think Judith just wanted my dad to hate me.
36:17I wanted my dad to hate me.
36:28She put him in situations that were physically dangerous to, essentially,
36:37to scare him and brainwash him, in effect.
36:40She managed to get control over Cory through isolation, through severe abuse,
36:52through alienating him from the one person who might have supported him.
36:57So, all of this led up to her telling him to kill his father.
37:03And he did it.
37:07He was able, at age 10, to follow those instructions and articulate the story.
37:18And, of course, out of fear that he had done this awful thing,
37:26even if he thought he was doing it for good reasons, according to what Judith had told him.
37:31I was this little kid that didn't know any better.
37:35And I still look back and I reflect on it every now and again.
37:40But none of it made sense.
37:43And none of it seemed real.
37:45She always told me that there was a recording of what actually happened.
37:55And she said that if I ever went to the police, I would be the first thing that was shown.
38:00And then I would go to prison for the rest of my life.
38:04It was our assessment that he really wasn't responsible for what he did.
38:09Judas, J-U-D-I-D.
38:26The allegations themselves, what he's talking about are abuse that occurred over the course of his childhood with you.
38:36Oh, really?
38:37Yeah, that's what this is about.
38:39Oh, really?
38:40Was Corey's penis ever flipped, grabbed, twisted, punched, slapped, anything like that?
38:53No.
38:54I don't know what you people want.
38:56I did not abuse that child.
38:59So before I end and walk out, I want to know, I mean, you feel Corey's lying that you didn't do...
39:06No, I feel that maybe someone done something for him, but it wasn't you.
39:13She denied all of the allegations of abuse and certainly of murder.
39:18And she maintained her innocence throughout.
39:25Related charges.
39:27Aggravated murder.
39:29Endangering children.
39:30Several counts of endangering children and insurance fraud.
39:35Okay?
39:36And, uh, we have, uh, we've had, uh, court examin by an expert in, in the field and, and, um,
39:48a lot of things that we alleged in there, um, are substantiated.
39:52Child abuse allegations, oftentimes you're relying on a story that somebody tells.
40:05So there's not always physical evidence.
40:11It's always difficult to prove something 10 years after the fact.
40:17It comes down to credibility.
40:19We didn't have DNA.
40:24We didn't have those things.
40:26We had a person's words.
40:30Do you like mommy Judy?
40:32Yeah.
40:36We had to make the jury see a 10-year-old sitting there and not a 19-year-old.
40:43And that was a challenge.
40:49When this trial started, this was, you know, big case here in Defiance County.
40:58This is a small town.
41:00And there was a lot of tension in, in the courtroom.
41:03I wanted the jury to know that it wasn't Corey that pulled that trigger, that it was Judith Hawkey.
41:12It was everything she'd done to that poor young man to cause him to pull the trigger.
41:18The jury needed to hear that 10-year-old speak.
41:23When I went on the witness stand, I was unable, out of fear, to look in her direction.
41:42The pain you have put me through is something that should send you straight to hell.
41:52But he found that courage, and he was able to tell us what that monster had done to him.
42:00I just want you to know that you didn't break me.
42:03All the abuse and neglect, and look at where you're at.
42:06You're getting what you deserve.
42:11I read my statement, and she actually turned around and started yelling and tried to lunge at me.
42:19He shot his father purposely, and he made up this whole story.
42:26Twelve people that had no idea what happened or transpired listened to that evidence over those several days,
42:34and was able to sort through it and find the truth.
42:41Judy was found guilty of aggravated murder, four counts of felony, child endangering, and one count of insurance fraud.
42:48Evil beyond description is all I can say about it.
42:53And during that sentencing, the judge sentenced Judy to life without the possibility of parole.
43:01Something that had haunted me for so long, it was utter disbelief, but complete relief.
43:10I felt justice had been served.
43:12Before Judy left, she said that she was innocent, and that she was going to be back.
43:19I knew that during the trial, that there was going to be some appealable issues that were going to be there.
43:35I felt that there was some hearsay and some other evidence that was admitted by the state that should not have been admitted.
43:44It was really very much in the stereotypical sense of a legal technicality that the appeal was based on.
43:51Corey told me about the appeal, and I was in disbelief.
43:58I thought, you know, I was finally rid of her, done with her, and now we get to do it all over again.
44:06We were very disappointed and very shocked at that outcome, and I still live to this day.
44:22I still disagree with the outcome.
44:24But at the end of the day, the courts get the final word.
44:39I spent the majority of my life just completely afraid of her.
44:43And something she always told me was, no matter where I was, she'd always come after me.
44:48And, you know, that's something that's still in my mind.
44:53I can't say I have zero fear. I'd be lying. I'm afraid.
44:59He's got to watch his back.
45:01You know, make sure that she's not going to be around to do something to retaliate.
45:07It's always in the back of my mind that she's somewhere lurking.
45:14I fear for the other people in her life, too.
45:18I can't say what she's capable of now, but she was capable of destroying a young man's life.
45:31I can't imagine me and Cory today waking up with that pain every day.
45:39He still struggles with guilt.
45:42Every November it hits him. It hits him hard.
45:47I hope he learns to forgive himself.
45:51He is the best example of a warrior.
45:54There are so many things that could have happened to him that have not.
46:00And I think he's a miracle.
46:01Every day before I go to go to sleep, I pray and I mention my father.
46:10Think about him throughout the day.
46:13I know that if I were to live in a negative life, it would only be hurting his legacy.
46:17So I try to be the best person I can be to honor him.
46:23That's a great opportunity to honor him.
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