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00:00Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs,
00:04the likes of which I've never seen before.
00:06The biggest load that we've seen.
00:08I'm not happy with Israel.
00:09You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours,
00:12you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.
00:16So I'm not happy with them.
00:18I'm not happy with Iran either.
00:19We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard
00:24that they don't know what the f**k they're doing.
00:27Do you understand that?
00:28We're going to talk more about this with France 24's James André,
00:31who joins me on the set of very strong words there from the U.S. President Donald Trump.
00:35Yeah, absolutely.
00:36Donald Trump saying that basically both countries broke that ceasefire deal
00:40and especially showing a lot of frustration with the Israelis,
00:47saying that he considered the fact that basically there was a time frame.
00:50Once again, we've not had the details of how this ceasefire is supposed to work.
00:53He basically said they had 12 hours and Israel went out and bombed Iran
00:58in a way that he says he'd never seen before and that it was extremely violent.
01:03So he said he was very, very, very frustrated with Israel.
01:06And what we've learned in the wake of what happened just there
01:09is that there was a phone call between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu
01:12who with Donald Trump saying you must turn those bombers away and, you know,
01:17stop this bombing campaign you've just launched against Iran
01:21and basically Benjamin Netanyahu saying that it was too late to do that
01:24and that there needed to be a response for the Iranian breach in the ceasefire.
01:29So right now it's very unclear whether those planes have turned around or not.
01:35But what we have heard from the White House is that basically Donald Trump
01:40used some very, very strong words with Netanyahu.
01:43And this is once again the White House saying that Netanyahu,
01:46the prime minister, understood the importance and the severity of the situation.
01:52So what's going to happen next is anyone's guess will have to see.
01:55But, you know, this could very well be, you know, the end of this crisis.
02:00It really, really does depend on what Israel decides to do and what the next steps might be.
02:04Right. So it seems from what you're saying that the ball is really in Israel's court at the moment.
02:09I mean, do we think in any way this could be the end of this very short-lived ceasefire?
02:13Well, it's anybody's guess.
02:15I mean, the fact of the matter is Donald Trump is certainly very, very angry at Benjamin Netanyahu
02:19because what he had tried to do was posture as the peacemaker
02:23by sending out this true social message early this morning saying that there was a ceasefire
02:28that would have been broken by the United States,
02:31making it in a sense appear that, you know, it was the United States leading
02:36and who had indeed, I'd say, brokered this peace deal and in a sense also, you know,
02:41forced Israel in a sense to stop its campaign.
02:43But on the other hand, what we have now is Benjamin Netanyahu,
02:47who is indeed, if he goes on with this last bombing campaign,
02:50that would clearly be a slap on the wrist of Donald Trump,
02:52which is a person who does not like slaps on the wrist.
02:56So that's for the political side of things.
02:58Then, you know, will Israel want to carry on?
03:00Iran has very, very limited means of striking back.
03:04We've seen that over the past 12 days.
03:05Anyway, if you compare the damage that has been sustained by Israel and Iran,
03:10I mean, there's no comparison.
03:12Iran's, according to the health ministry,
03:15there are 606 people were killed in Iran with these strikes.
03:185,000 were injured.
03:20As we know, you know, all the military infrastructure was at least hit,
03:24a lot of it destroyed.
03:25We know that all the nuclear infrastructure was also hit,
03:31most certainly probably destroyed, at least that's what Donald Trump says.
03:34Donald Trump actually also vented his anger at American networks,
03:37questioning the fact that Fordow, for example, had been completely destroyed.
03:40He said, you know, those B-2 bombers did their job and the job is done.
03:44There's nothing but rubble.
03:45It's all under rock.
03:45Those were his exact words.
03:47So the question mark is, you know, where do we stand with that nuclear program?
03:52Do the Iranians still have their 400 kilograms worth of highly enriched uranium?
03:59It's anybody's guess.
03:59You know, we don't know.
04:00We don't have that information.
04:01But it really can go two ways from now.
04:04Either everybody decides to stop the attacks and the bombings,
04:08or else this could carry on.
04:10But once again, given the military situation, it's very much Israel's decision.
04:14And James, do we have any idea of what kind of effect this could have on the leadership
04:18in these two respective countries, Israel and Iran?
04:21Well, I think Netanyahu probably is going to come out looking, you know, strong and having
04:25achieved his goal, which was, you know, the goal of the Operation Rising Lion.
04:30It was called was to destroy both the nuclear enrichment facilities, but also all the ballistic
04:36program.
04:37And Netanyahu claims to have done that and that indeed he says that there is no more
04:41existential threat caused by Iran in the short term anyway.
04:46And then when it comes to Iran, well, obviously the Mullahs are trying to spin this as an Iranian
04:51victory.
04:52What they've been saying since this morning in communiques is that they had forced Israel
04:56into a unilateral ceasefire, which obviously is a, you know, a narrative that is calibrated
05:02to speak to their own people, though there's been massive, you know, damage in Iran.
05:08You know, what's going to happen with the regime is a real question mark.
05:12I mean, they have appeared, you know, weak in no position to really protect the civilian
05:17population.
05:18It's been a very, very bad few months for Iran.
05:20If you look at all the proxies that have been destroyed one after the other across the
05:24whole Middle East, as it stands right now, most of the military capacities of Iran have
05:29been destroyed, most of its regional allies and proxies have been destroyed.
05:34So Iran is not, is much less of a force to reckon with right now in the Middle East than
05:38it was just a few months ago.
05:40And that, of course, is bad news for the current leadership.

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