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Will Trump heed calls by MAGA Republicans to stay out of Israel-Iran conflict?
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00:00
Now I'm bringing in our international affairs editor, Philip Terrell.
00:03
Philip, good to see you.
00:04
There are a lot of questions of if or when the United States will join this war effort.
00:11
There are many within the United States, the MAGA crowd, if you will,
00:16
people like Tucker Carlson, American broadcaster,
00:20
even Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene,
00:22
who are calling on the U.S. president not to get involved with this conflict.
00:27
This is a U.S. president who has said he would be non-interventionist.
00:31
That is the big dilemma facing Donald Trump.
00:34
And I think that can in a way explain why he's behaving the way he is behaving,
00:39
because he knows that his support base is not really in favor of what they call forever wars.
00:45
And this is something that Donald Trump is not in favor of either.
00:48
And he's portrayed himself from the start of all of this right the way through his election campaigns
00:53
as being the peace dealer, the man who's going to bring the different parties together
00:57
to sign those deals that he's been talking about.
01:00
And he hasn't managed to sign any deals so far, be it in Ukraine, be it in Gaza,
01:04
and now a deal between Iran and the United States over Iran's nuclear program.
01:10
So he's facing the increasing desire by Israel for the U.S. to join in,
01:17
to finish off the Iranian regime and to help Israel achieve that goal
01:21
and also destroy Iran's nuclear capacity.
01:27
But at the same time, he doesn't want to cut ties too much with his base,
01:30
because as you said, you have people like Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene
01:33
who are saying, well, hold on a minute, this isn't what we voted for,
01:36
and this is not something that we think President Trump should be doing.
01:40
But on the other hand, you have other, more hawkish members within the Republican Party.
01:44
For example, the Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who's saying, yes,
01:48
we should go in there and finish off Iran once and for all.
01:51
This is an ideal opportunity because Iran is in a weak position,
01:54
so the U.S. should get involved and move in there to make sure there is a regime change.
02:00
So that is why there is this dilemma facing Donald Trump.
02:05
Because on the flight back from Canada to Washington,
02:09
Donald Trump was asked about what he was going back for
02:15
and why, if it would be, in fact, a ceasefire between Israel and Iran.
02:19
Take a listen to his response.
02:21
I'm looking for a ceasefire.
02:23
When I'm looking for a ceasefire, I didn't say I was looking for a ceasefire.
02:26
That was Emmanuel, nice guy, but he doesn't get it right too often.
02:30
But I'm looking for better than a ceasefire.
02:34
What specifically is better than a ceasefire?
02:36
What are you looking for here?
02:40
An end.
02:41
A real end, not a ceasefire.
02:42
An end.
02:43
So something that will be popular?
02:44
Yeah.
02:45
Or giving up entirely.
02:48
Is that okay too?
02:49
I mean, Donald Trump, Philip, is talking in riddles, essentially.
02:53
An end to what?
02:55
It's pretty open-ended.
02:56
An end to Iran's supreme leader, an end to the conflict.
02:59
It's open-ended.
03:01
Well, to be honest with you, I don't think any of us know exactly what Donald Trump is alluding to there.
03:06
There are several things that could mean an end.
03:08
First of all, though, that snub to Emmanuel Macron, which is typical of Donald Trump,
03:14
I think we can basically say that is because prior to this G7 summit, Emmanuel Macron went where?
03:19
He went to Greenland, where he stood up for the Greenlandic people,
03:22
saying this is part of a country that's part of Europe, belongs to Denmark,
03:26
and it's not going to be given to the United States.
03:28
That's obviously displeased Donald Trump, so it's a snub back to the French president.
03:33
As far as the end of the conflict between Israel and Iran is concerned,
03:39
Donald Trump wants a deal.
03:40
He wants a deal that he can go back and say,
03:42
I've got this deal, and that's going to help me get the Nobel Peace Prize.
03:46
Remember, that's the way Donald Trump functions.
03:48
He wants a deal with Iran.
03:51
But he also knows that he's face-to-face with a very determined Israeli Prime Minister,
03:57
Benjamin Netanyahu, and Benjamin Netanyahu wants to destroy Iran's nuclear agreement.
04:02
We're not talking about a ceasefire here.
04:04
We're talking about two different things.
04:06
So if Donald Trump can pull off an agreement with the Iranians saying,
04:09
OK, you've had 60 days, 60 first days when these attacks started,
04:14
come back to the negotiating table, let's get that deal signed,
04:17
that will be bigger than a ceasefire.
04:19
But at the same time, there's this growing pressure, as you've been saying,
04:22
from the Israelis for the US to join forces
04:25
and also to finish off the Iranian regime to bring in regime change.
04:30
Is that what Donald Trump is alluding to as something bigger than a ceasefire deal?
04:34
Well, we really don't know.
04:36
And at the moment, he's in the Situation Room meeting with his national security team.
04:40
Maybe we'll have more information later in the day.
04:43
But one has to beg the question,
04:46
does Donald Trump himself actually know which way he's going to go in all of this?
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