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00:00She's on a show about women who are loose, and she uses enemas to clean out her caboose.
00:08It's Watch What Happens Live with Shannon Storms, the door, and Denise Welsh, now.
00:24Hey, everybody.
00:25Welcome to Watch What Happens Live.
00:27I'm your host, Andy Cohen, live in the Bravo Clubhouse on a Thursday night.
00:30We are live in New York City, the greatest city in the world, with Real Housewife of Orange County, Shannon Storms.
00:39Loose Women does not describe the very tightly wound Shannon and Katie in tonight's Orange County,
00:44but it is the title of my next guest talk show in the U.K.
00:48It's The View, but in the U.K., and it's great.
00:52And I was a guest on Loose Women, and I promised her she could come on because she is a huge Bravo fan.
00:59You can stream Loose Women weekdays on ITVX.
01:03Give it up for host, actress, and Bravo superfan Denise Welsh.
01:06Hey, Denise.
01:07Great to see you.
01:10So glad you're here.
01:11We're going to get into it tonight.
01:12I want to start by saying hi to Shannon's daughters, Sophie and Adeline.
01:16Big night.
01:20Adeline is finally 21, so she can join us in the studio.
01:24It's night in the chairs.
01:25Yes.
01:25So congratulations.
01:27Hey, folks, do me a favor.
01:29Grab your phone and fire up www.hl.tv because we have a lot of polls coming your way in just
01:35a second.
01:36Don't forget to tweet me your questions at Andy for Shannon and Denise all night long.
01:42I want to get into tonight's Orange County.
01:44Shannon, do you want to hear the number one question for you?
01:49Yes.
01:49Why does it matter that Katie showed Alexis one of your meltdowns when you have meltdowns
01:56every season on national television?
01:58Okay, well, let's look at last season.
02:00The only time I got upset was when I rightfully had the reason to.
02:04There were no meltdowns.
02:06I was very calm.
02:07Shannon.
02:09Last year?
02:10Last season on the show?
02:11Like, at London, I left, but I didn't say the usual, you know, all that kind of stuff
02:16that I used to do.
02:17I mean, I think that I'm a lot less reactive.
02:20Okay.
02:20And for all these girls to keep saying, I didn't have a meltdown that day.
02:24So let's just get the facts straight.
02:26But the bottom line is, Andy, it doesn't matter what I did.
02:30It is in the state of California against the law to tape record someone in any capacity
02:36without their consent.
02:37There you go.
02:37So it doesn't matter what I did.
02:39All right, viewers.
02:40Guess what, folks?
02:41It is time to...
02:43Work the ball!
02:44Here we go, America.
02:47Things ended very poorly between them tonight.
02:49Tell us whose side are you on, Shannon's or Katie's?
02:52Denise Welsh, whose side are you on?
02:54Well, I'll be honest.
02:56Initially, when I...
02:57Oh, God, look at the way Shannon's looking.
02:59I'll be honest.
03:00Initially, I did think that you had given other people more grace over the years.
03:05But the bit that got me was when Katie still said, I did not let Alexis see.
03:11And I listened to a podcast today, got the receipts.
03:14And she did.
03:15She went to lunch.
03:16And she sat there.
03:17And she showed it to Alexis.
03:18So now I am totally team Shannon.
03:20Guess what?
03:21So is America.
03:2382%.
03:23All right, stay on www.hl.tv for the next poll.
03:29Is Katie secretly recording Shannon a forgivable friendship offense?
03:34Yes or no?
03:35Denise, should Shannon forgive her?
03:37I think there is so much to...
03:40You're always talking, you guys, about moving forward.
03:43And I do think that you have moved forward with people who have maybe done worse than Katie did.
03:49So I think that the friendship you had before is maybe worth saving, maybe.
03:54Well, the issue that I have is that there is zero good intention when you secretly record someone.
03:59There is no positive explanation for doing that.
04:03The audience says it is not a forgivable offense.
04:07There you go.
04:08Since Shannon put them in the same category tonight, who's worse, John Jansen or Katie Janela?
04:14Who's worse, Denise Welsh?
04:16Well, well, I mean, looking at your...
04:19John Jansen.
04:23Okay.
04:24All right.
04:24The audience is agreeing.
04:26Very good.
04:27Thank you very much.
04:28I may have recanted that and said there's a little bit more equal.
04:34Okay.
04:35Now vote on this hard-hitting question.
04:37Should Shannon have gone back for her grilled cheese?
04:40Yes or no?
04:40I never leave a grilled cheese behind, Shannon.
04:42I got a new one.
04:44Oh, you got a new one?
04:45Oh, okay.
04:46Very good.
04:46I did think that was a great line, though, I have to say, from Katie.
04:50Oh, which was?
04:51When you...
04:51Oh, she said she left her grilled cheese.
04:53Just really sort of torn you a new one and somebody just says she left her grilled cheese.
04:57Yes.
04:57I thought that was good.
04:58The audience says, yeah, she should have.
05:01And we got you.
05:03Guess what?
05:04We did bring you a grilled cheese tonight.
05:07Shannon, just to nosh on during the show.
05:10And it's from Westville around the corner.
05:12This is a great grilled cheese.
05:13Just so you know, we love Westville.
05:16Since we saw two out of three of them on OC tonight, of the Love Hotel guys, who is the
05:21best match for Shannon?
05:22Earl, Adam, Phil, or none of them.
05:26What happened with Earl?
05:27Yeah.
05:28It didn't work out.
05:29Yeah, to say the least.
05:30Okay.
05:30Yeah.
05:30Like, yeah.
05:31And I tried.
05:32I really did try.
05:33Should have ended earlier.
05:34But Adam and Phil, we're all just friends.
05:37And I'm friends with even more of the men, too.
05:39No, no, no neck up even.
05:41No.
05:41Oh, okay.
05:42Okay.
05:43The audience is saying none of them.
05:45Okay.
05:46Next, based on the evidence that's been provided by both parties, whose side are you on?
05:49Gretchen or Tamara's?
05:51This is kind of an age old thing here.
05:54Gretchen.
05:55You're on Gretchen's side.
05:56Why?
05:56Straight away.
05:57Yes.
05:57Straight away.
05:58Why?
05:58Why?
05:58Because if I was going to put, which is maybe answering another question, but if I was
06:04going to put any housewife on pause permanently, it would be Tamara Jones.
06:08Okay.
06:09All right.
06:10The audience is agreeing with you there.
06:13Our final poll is, could Katie win you over with an expensive scalp treatment?
06:18Yes or no?
06:19How much is the scalp treatment?
06:21I don't know.
06:21An expensive scalp treatment?
06:22But I recently just had extensions put in by Julia, so I don't want the scalp treatment.
06:26Oh, okay.
06:27It might, it might.
06:27Denise, could you be won over by an expensive scalp treatment?
06:30It depends who's doing it, but yes, for sure.
06:33Maybe done.
06:33Okay.
06:34Denise could.
06:34Maybe done.
06:35The audience is saying no.
06:36Thank you very much for voting, everybody.
06:39Wow.
06:40To all our current or future parents, our bartenders are serving a nightcap tonight and a dose of
06:45reality on their podcast.
06:46After bedtime with Big Little Feelings, new episodes drop Mondays.
06:50Give it up for our friends, the Big Little Feelings gals, Dina Margolin and Christine
06:55Galan.
06:55You look so great.
06:57We have a baby in the house.
06:59Any day now.
07:00Any day now.
07:01Wow.
07:03Love a baby behind the bar.
07:05Denise has been part of Loose Women for years, but I hope this Watch What Happens Live
07:09virgin will have loose lips tonight.
07:10As I pepper her with questions, it's a Clubhouse Quickie Bravo edition.
07:14What show or episodes do you tell your friends to watch if they're not hooked on Bravo yet?
07:20Okay.
07:20I think episode-wise, it would be Beverly Hills, Amsterdam, talking about the husband with Rina.
07:27Yes.
07:28I think that would be the episode.
07:29Franchise-wise, because they wouldn't have like a million seasons and it came in strong
07:34and continues as Salt Lake City.
07:35Okay.
07:36Who is one housewife that you would love to see make a triumphant return someday?
07:42Unpopular decision with some people I know from this universe, but probably Lisa Vanderpump.
07:48Okay.
07:48I don't know how unpopular it is.
07:50If you had the power to put one current housewife on pause, you already said who that
07:54would be.
07:54It would be two, maybe.
07:55Okay.
07:55It would be definitely Tamra Judge.
07:57Okay.
07:58Because I think, well, you didn't ask the reason, but I'll tell you anyway.
08:02It's because I think that what us Bravo superfans love is these intelligent and funny women
08:09across all franchises, and you are funnier than Katie.
08:11You're very kind.
08:12Across all the franchises.
08:14And I think that one of the best things about it is the shade and the funny lines.
08:19But when that shade turns to meanness and nastiness.
08:22You don't like it.
08:23I don't like it.
08:24Okay.
08:24So it would be her and also Jennifer Aiden.
08:26Okay.
08:27All right.
08:31If you were to charter a below deck yacht, who would you want to helm as your captain?
08:35Okay.
08:36It would be Captain Jason, because he's so fit, and Captain Lee, because I love him.
08:40And Daisy would be the, um, would be the...
08:43Okay.
08:43Last question.
08:44Most frustrated you've been watching a Housewives reunion?
08:47Okay.
08:48That would be New Jersey with the Bo Diddley guy.
08:52Yes.
08:53Yes.
08:53That's Bo Diddley.
08:54All right.
08:54Because Bo Diddley is here.
08:55Thank you very much, Janice Ruff.
08:56I was very frustrated, too.
08:59And Heather's party, Shannon brought Phil as her plus one, but then was minus one grilled
09:04cheese.
09:04We rectified that after storming out.
09:06As we dish out more sandwiches tonight, Shannon has to dish on the OC ladies and grill him.
09:11Shannon, for each pal that pops up, grill him with the one question.
09:14You are currently dying to ask them, starting with Katie.
09:20Katie, what's one question?
09:21Uh, what's wrong with you?
09:24Okay.
09:25Next up is Tamara.
09:28That's a terrible picture of Tamara on a grilled cheese.
09:30Well, that's what her, that's what her cast photo looks like.
09:32Oh, okay.
09:33What would you ask her?
09:36Um, I, you know, you don't surprise me anymore, so why, but why do you keep doing what you're
09:43doing?
09:43Okay.
09:43Okay, next up is Heather.
09:46Um, did you have fun with me the other day?
09:50Okay.
09:50Filming the after show.
09:51Okay.
09:52Yeah.
09:52Next up is Jen.
09:55Jen, when are you getting married?
09:57Okay.
09:58Next up is Emily.
10:01Um, question.
10:02I, she was supposed to call me.
10:05I wish she would.
10:06Why didn't you call me?
10:07Okay.
10:07Okay.
10:08For some legal advice.
10:09Oh, okay.
10:10Uh, Gina.
10:11Gina.
10:11Gina, I want to say statements, not questions.
10:13Okay.
10:14Are you having an amazing time living with Travis again?
10:18Okay.
10:18Next up is Gretchen.
10:21Gretchen, are you happy with being back on season 19?
10:26Okay.
10:28You, you don't like this game.
10:30I mean, you're, you're, I feel tension with you.
10:32I could have.
10:33This is not a tense game.
10:35I mean, I could have come up with funnier things had I gone ahead.
10:38Oh.
10:38This is off the cuff.
10:39Oh, okay.
10:40We didn't brief you as well.
10:41No.
10:41You're complaining that we didn't brief you.
10:43Yeah.
10:44Okay.
10:45All right.
10:45Okay.
10:46Well, guess what?
10:47Well, the good news is we have a commercial break so we can talk all about it.
10:50Coming up more with Shannon and Denise.
10:52Here she's stopping by next week.
10:54Don't go anywhere.
10:55Orange County.
10:56Orange County.
10:57I'm safe.
11:00Orange County.
11:02I'm safe.
11:07Andy, you're so shady.
11:10Andy, you're so shady.
11:11All right.
11:12Welcome back to what's another time.
11:13I'm Andy Cohen.
11:14Live in the Bravo Clubhouse with Shannon Storch.
11:16Medora from the Real House House of Orange County.
11:18And Denise Welch from Loose Women.
11:20You can stream new episodes weekdays on ITVX.
11:24It's like The View, but with Brits, and it's great.
11:26And not as political.
11:28Not as political.
11:29Yes.
11:29But God bless The View for what they're doing.
11:31Over at the bar, it's Dina and Kristen from Big Little Feelings, the largest online parenting
11:36resource and community.
11:38Head to BigLittleFeelings.com for more info.
11:40They've been so helpful to me.
11:42You guys are amazing.
11:43I love you.
11:43Drinking in.
11:44Reminder, if you're 21 or over, anytime you hear this word, take as many shots as Shannon
11:48did before hitting the damn gong.
11:51Let's take questions from our fans.
11:52In studio, it's Danielle from New Jersey with a question for Shannon.
11:55Hi, Danielle.
11:56Hi, everyone.
11:57Hey.
11:57Great color, Shannon.
11:59My question is, do you feel like Tamara waited to share the information about Katie sending
12:05the video to Alexis to get you on her side in her beef with Katie?
12:09I mean, it's always a possibility because it's not the first time that she's held information
12:14in, so I really don't know the answer to that.
12:16All right.
12:17Now, let's go to some virtual fans, Liz and Garrett from New York City, with a question
12:21for Denise.
12:22Hi there.
12:23Hi.
12:24Hi, guys.
12:24Hi, Andy.
12:25Hi, ladies.
12:26Y'all look great tonight.
12:29My question is for Denise.
12:31Do you still stand by your tweet from last year in which you said that Louis is the most
12:37cringe-inducing husband in the history of the Housewives franchise?
12:42Therese is Louis?
12:43Yes.
12:44Mm-hmm.
12:45I absolutely, I forgot that I tweeted that, but I absolutely think that he is a complete
12:52cringe fest.
12:52All right.
12:55Thank you very much.
12:57Denise, Lisa F. said, if you were a real housewife, what would your tagline be?
13:02Okay.
13:03It would be, because obviously I have thought of this.
13:06Okay.
13:06It would be, I don't need a knight in shining armor.
13:13I'm a British queen.
13:15I can fix my own crown.
13:18Oh, yeah!
13:21Oh!
13:24Okay.
13:26Shannon Wine by Wives wants to know, how is Katie Pure Evil for filming you when you and
13:31Heather filmed Kelly's breakdown in season 11?
13:35Wow.
13:35Where was that?
13:36Okay, well.
13:37In Ireland?
13:37Okay, well, in Ireland, and that might be a topic later on in this season, in Ireland,
13:42we were told if any...
13:43You were filming at producer camp for the show, right?
13:45Right.
13:45If anything happens, pull out your iPhone so that we can capture it all.
13:49That's what I...
13:49We were doing our job.
13:50Yes.
13:50Okay.
13:51Any reactions to Slade's broken dick?
13:54Oh.
13:56I don't really know much about his broken dick.
13:59Okay.
14:00Nor do I care to, but thank you for asking.
14:02Okay.
14:03Yeah, you're welcome.
14:04You are welcome.
14:09Denise, your son is the great Maddie Healy.
14:12He is.
14:13Yes.
14:14Oh, do you have a reaction?
14:16On that topic, Miss Swift wrote a whole album about their relationship, Tortured Poets Department.
14:23What was your reaction to that album?
14:24Obviously, on pain of death, can I talk about that episode, but not being her mother-in-law
14:31is a role that I'm glad that I lost.
14:34Not that I have anything against her at all.
14:38Okay.
14:38It was just, you know, it was tricky, but she...
14:44Listen, you're not allowed to say anything, and then she writes a whole album, you know,
14:48about it, but Matty has taken it all in completely good grace.
14:52He's very happy with his amazing fiancée, Gabriela, Gabriette, who is gorgeous, and so
14:58we've moved on.
15:00There you go.
15:01Well, Katie's ears might still be ringing after getting an earful from Shannon tonight
15:05during their explosive conversation that, for the record, was definitely being recorded,
15:10and since we have quite a few similar situations in the Bravo archives, it's time to play...
15:15Who's Shannon yelling at?
15:18Okay, Denise, for each photo of Shannon I show you, simply guess who Shannon is pissed
15:22at before she reveals.
15:24Well, these are prior seasons.
15:25Yes, okay, yes, okay.
15:27Okay, who is Shannon yelling at here?
15:33Um, uh, oh, God.
15:36Would it have been Kelly Dodd or are we not that far back?
15:39It would.
15:40It was you!
15:42It was you!
15:43Who's Shannon yelling at here?
15:48Well, I mean, Tamara?
15:51Kelly.
15:52Oh, Vicky.
15:53Vicky.
15:54Uh, that was calling her despicable.
15:56Who's Shannon yelling at here?
16:00Is that in The Quiet Woman?
16:02No.
16:02Is that, no?
16:03Um, I'm gonna go Tamara, because it was Vicky before.
16:06It is Megan.
16:08She starts charities.
16:09Oh, I thought about that.
16:09I thought about that.
16:10Yes.
16:10I start charities.
16:11Yes, who is Shannon yelling at here?
16:16John Johnson.
16:20Heather.
16:21Oh, right before she was asked to, she was a victim.
16:24Yes.
16:24Who is Shannon reprimanding here?
16:28Um, Emily.
16:29Lydia.
16:30Lydia.
16:30Uh, for calling Shannon a lost soul.
16:33Who is Shannon yelling at here?
16:35Oh.
16:36Kelly Dodd, Quiet Woman.
16:37Yes, yes, yes.
16:38Very good.
16:39Um, who is Shannon yelling at here?
16:45The thing is, you don't look any different in any of the seasons.
16:48Well, I look a little heavy there.
16:49Well, um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go Emily.
16:53Uh, Gina.
16:54Oh.
16:54Okay.
16:55Oh, yeah.
16:55Last up, who is Shannon yelling at here?
16:59Oh.
17:00Oh.
17:01Good.
17:02Um, it's definitely all on the season.
17:06It's not an Earl, because that looked like an Earl face from Love.
17:08That is.
17:09Good job.
17:10Wow.
17:11Earl to Pearl for not liking that story.
17:14Very good.
17:15Oh, we have one more.
17:16We have one more.
17:17Who is Shannon yelling at here?
17:19Oh.
17:20Everyone.
17:21In a hotel room?
17:23Everyone.
17:23Um, yeah.
17:25That was kind of a group when they were talking about.
17:26Yes, it was.
17:27Tamara, Kelly, and Vicky.
17:28Very good.
17:29Yeah.
17:29All right.
17:30Well done, Denise.
17:31Uh, after the break, we have more with these two.
17:34And my mother, we're going to be right back.
17:36Come on, come on, come on.
17:44Welcome back to What's Another Time.
17:52And I'm Andy here with Shannon, Denise, and Dina, and Kristen behind the bar.
17:59Denise, Jasmine M. wants to know the current opinion that the UK general public has of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.
18:05And can you speak on behalf of your fellow countrymen?
18:08Well, I have a very different view to a lot of people.
18:12And on this show that I do at home, Loose Women, I'm like the only person who flies the Harry and Meghan flag.
18:17And I don't know them.
18:17I've met a few of the royals over the years, but I've never met them.
18:20But I just think that the amount of bullying by the press, British and American, that that woman gets.
18:30Remember, she was in those rooms, a lot of them, you know, as a young black American woman.
18:35She was she had a big voice in UNICEF and in the United Nations.
18:39She was in a lot of those rooms before Harry.
18:41And I just kind of try to fly the flag a bit.
18:44You've got to remember that this is a boy who was, you know, was forced at 12 years old to walk behind his mother's coffin.
18:51You know, his dad had been unfaithful and and he he grew up in that in that world.
18:58And I think for him to want to say his piece is is is something quite admirable.
19:05And so I kind of think that they're in love.
19:07He's never been unfaithful to her.
19:09You know, the the abuse she got for saying that she was mentally ill.
19:12I suffered severe postnatal depression, hospitalized after I had Matthew.
19:16So I really empathize and sympathize with somebody who was open about that.
19:19And she got ridiculed and hated.
19:21It's like, what has she really done?
19:23Right, right.
19:23You know, and every every single day she is battered.
19:28So I just.
19:30Good answer.
19:31Good answer.
19:35Wow.
19:36Very good.
19:38OK, it is time for my mazel of the day.
19:40It goes to Michael Patrick King, the great Michael Patrick King, for having the good sense to bring back the most beloved character in the sex in the city canon.
19:49The shoe salesman from season six played by yours truly.
19:54And this time tonight on and just like that, they gave him a name.
20:01Hey, Carrie, I am slammed right with you.
20:03Oh, thanks.
20:04I'm just looking today, Daniel.
20:06Well, when asked if my other character shirtless gay guy from season four could also return for another appearance.
20:16All I got from Michael Patrick King was this note.
20:23Anyway, tonight's shackle goes to the fact that a Chuck E. Cheese mascot in Florida was arrested for alleged credit card fraud in full costume during a children's birthday party.
20:36As Mr. Cheese was taken away by authorities, he could be heard saying this.
20:41I'm being nailed to the cross like Jesus was.
20:43You did nothing wrong.
20:45I want to thank Shannon, Denise, Dina, and Kristen for being here.
20:52Sophie and Adele, thank you so much.
20:55For the word of the night was Katie.
20:57We said it 13 times if you've been playing our drinking game, no driving.
21:01Sunday night, Kristen Johnson and Leanne Morgan will be here up for Kingsport.
21:05Watch our after show on Facebook Live.
21:07Have a great weekend, everybody.
21:09Thank you, Shannon.
21:10Thank you, Denise.
21:11What fun that was.
21:12Thank you, Denise.
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