00:00No, it's a tool of the American people when the Speaker stands in the way of justice and transparency.
00:07This is how we get justice.
00:09We get 218 people to sign a resolution that says we're going to bring this vote to the floor.
00:15This is phase two.
00:17The Speaker says there's not going to be a vote before the August recess on this separate bill.
00:22What do you say to him?
00:23Well, lucky for him, there are only six legislative days between when I introduced this bill and I need seven legislative days for the bill to ripen and then get the discharge petition signatures.
00:41So what will happen is over the August recess, I think momentum will build for transparency.
00:48I don't think this is going to go away.
00:50And I think when we return in September, we'll get phase two of the Epstein files because we'll get, I believe, every Democrat and at least a dozen Republicans who want transparency and justice.
01:05Why is that going to the grand jury and asking for the release of this testimony not enough for you?
01:10That's like one of 12 things that we need.
01:14Like in our House resolution, which calls up the bill, we ask for a dozen different things.
01:21And that testimony would be one thing, but that's not a whole lot of stuff.
01:26Do you believe there's any reason why this information is not being released by the administration?
01:32I think it's embarrassing to the intelligence community.
01:35It may be embarrassing to the president's friends.
01:38I'm not particularly implicating the president himself.
01:42I don't allege him of any wrongdoing.
01:45But I do believe that there are some things that need to be brought to the American public's knowledge that have happened that will be embarrassing.
01:58So you think during the August recess, momentum is going to build for this?
02:02Oh, absolutely.
02:03This is not going away.
02:05Look, less than 10% of the American people believe that this shouldn't be released.
02:11And the legislation that we wrote protects the victims and protects national security.
02:17So there's no reason not to release everything that they've got over there at the administrative branch.
02:24And do you already have commitments, 218 commitments, to sign onto your discharge petition?
02:28So we just picked up another Republican today.
02:31I think we're at about a dozen Republicans.
02:34And if we get every Democrat, plus all the Republicans who've co-sponsored this,
02:39if they all sign the discharge petition, we've easily got 218.
02:44And the Epstein files will be released.
02:47Like, the House will pass that bill, and it's binding.
02:51It's not like the fake, non-binding resolution that they did in the Rules Committee.
02:56What do you think of the argument from Chip Roy and others that, you know,
03:00this is never going to pass the Senate, Trump is never going to sign this,
03:04or it doesn't really matter if it's binding or not binding,
03:06and therefore the resolution is a better route?
03:09Do you think the President will not sign a bill that three quarters or maybe 100% of Congress has passed
03:18that says that the Epstein files have been, must be released?
03:23Like, I completely believe that the, you know, the President himself sounds sort of indifferent to it.
03:29He says, well, it's fake, it's a hoax, it's whatever.
03:33Okay, let's get that out there.
03:35Let's see it in the public eye.
03:38Do you think Bondi should testify before the Senate House Judiciary Committee?
03:42I think Maxwell should testify.
03:45Bondi could testify.
03:47But this may be above her pay grade,
03:50which is why Congress, a co-equal branch with the President,
03:54should demand the release of everything that they have regarding the Epstein files.
04:00What about Kash Patel, do you think he should testify to?
04:03Kash Patel, the FBI Director?
04:04I don't know that he needs to testify.
04:06You know, there's people who said, oh, this is a hoax.
04:09The President said this is a hoax.
04:11If it's a hoax, the President's own children fell for the hoax.
04:14The Vice President fell for the hoax.
04:16Kash Patel fell for the hoax.
04:18I don't think it's a hoax.
04:20How point is this issue to your constituents in Kentucky?
04:24Are they making calls to your office?
04:26Will this affect midterms?
04:28How point is this issue?
04:30This transcends all other issues.
04:33This is about whether there's an elite and powerful group of people who are above the law,
04:39or whether they answer to the law.
04:42And that's what this is about.
04:44And right now, anybody who wants to subvert or keep the Epstein files secret,
04:50they're on the wrong side.
04:52They're on the side of maybe 5% of the public.
04:55Over 80% of the public wants these files released.
04:59And this is about whether, if you're rich and powerful and politically connected,
05:05can you get outside of the law?
05:08And I don't think you can.
05:09Ms. Massey, there were so many of your colleagues who were once calling for this who have gone silent.
05:14Ha!
05:15Are you surprised at how quickly some of these so-called fighters for this information just disappeared?
05:22Look, I think politicians do not like conflict.
05:27They'd like to tell both sides that they're on their side.
05:31And so that's why we need an actual vote of the U.S. House of Representatives.
05:35I think any of my colleagues who you've implicated with that statement would probably vote yes to release the Epstein files.
05:44Do you think that those co-sponsors or Republican co-sponsors are actually going to sign the discharge petition, though?
05:49Oh, yeah.
05:50I think all 10 of them or 11 of them will.
05:53I think there's some cognitive dissonance if you've co-sponsored this resolution
05:58and that you won't sign the discharge petition.
06:01And I actually don't believe any of my colleagues who've co-sponsored this wouldn't sign it.
06:06I mean, they're going to sign it.
06:08And if every Democrat signs it, we're going to get the Epstein files.
06:13Now, the Speaker of the House has a decision to make once we achieve 218 signatures.
06:20He has to decide if he himself is going to try to bring some resolution on the floor to hide this.
06:28And I think that's going to be a great tell.
06:31If he does, that vote will be the vote on whether we expose this pedophilia ring.
06:37Do you have any assurances from Democratic leadership that all Democrats will sign the discharge petition?
06:42I don't have any assurances from anybody.
06:45But I think if you're moral and upstanding and you want transparency and you want justice, you're going to sign this.
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