00:00What do you make of the fact that the president was informed by Pam Bondi that his name had appeared in the Epstein files back in May?
00:10Does that make you want more of this information?
00:12Does this make you question whether or not the president is withholding it for any particular reason?
00:16Well, listen, I want all the information out.
00:19I mean, my consistent view has been they ought to make all of it public.
00:23I just think that's the wise thing to do.
00:25The president said this in the day that Bondi ought to release anything and everything that's, you know, like a legitimate, which I assume this will be hundreds of thousands of pages.
00:33I mean, the MLK files were what, like 240,000 pages of documents.
00:37So we're talking about a prosecution file.
00:39I mean, this, you know, it's going to be it's going to be big.
00:42So, yeah, I think the best thing to do is just put it all out there.
00:45Do you think the Senate Judiciary Committee has a role in a subpoena to release those files, like the House Oversight Committee?
00:51Well, I tell you what I think we maybe we ought to do is I understand Ghislaine Maxwell's offer to testify.
00:55I think the House has expressed interest in this.
00:57We should do like a joint committee and do a House Senate joint committee on this and have her testify.
01:02And, yeah, I'm assuming she has something real to say, but I think she would.
01:08So are you concerned the president could have halted the release of documents because he was worried his name was in it?
01:13No.
01:14I mean, look, everybody knows that he knew Epstein at some point.
01:17They're both New York.
01:17I mean, there's a video of it.
01:19Now, he's said this for years, so I don't think any of that's a surprise that he's mentioned the documents.
01:25I mean, of course.
01:25It's like everybody who's ever met the guy is going to be mentioned.
01:28I mean, again, we're probably talking about hundreds of thousands of pages.
01:32I'm just, as a former prosecutor, like, you know, you have a prosecutor file.
01:36I mean, he's probably like every scrap of paper Steve's ever had.
01:39I mean, that's what I want if I was a prosecutor.
01:41So, you know, it's not a surprise.
01:43Like, anybody who ever met him is going to be mentioned, quote, unquote.
01:46So I don't think that's a big deal.
01:47Senator, do you find it strange?
01:48But nor is there a reason to withhold the documents.
01:50I mean, she can put them all out there.
01:51Do you find it strange, or can you understand why there's confusion where the president spent most of the campaign mentioning these files in some capacity?
01:59And then Pam Bondi said, we have this list on my desk.
02:02And then they just don't release it and then start talking about Obama and Clinton and everybody else.
02:07Does that sit right with you?
02:08Does it pass the smell test?
02:10Well, I think this goes back to, listen, this is, you mentioned the attorney general.
02:13I mean, this is the attorney general's call at the end of the day because this has been, the Department of Justice led the prosecutions in the Epstein case.
02:21So they have possession of the files.
02:24And, you know, the papers, again, it's probably huge.
02:26And I think they ought to release them.
02:28I mean, I just think, I think that's the right thing to do.
02:30And, yeah, I mean, most of it, it's going to be, it's kind of like, it'll be like what we saw with the JFK and MLK files.
02:34A lot of it will be prosaic.
02:37And who knows?
02:38Maybe there won't be any revelations in there.
02:39But I still think you should release them.
02:41Do you have confidence in Bondi?
02:43Yeah, I mean, listen, I think the president does, and that's the main thing.
02:46I think she's done a good job.
02:47I mean, this is, I can understand, if you're a prosecutor, I mean, A, prosecutors never like to open stuff up because they think, well, I might need this for a future prosecution.
02:54And if you open up a whole bunch of files, you lose any element of surprise for people you're going to charge in the future.
03:00So I understand, I've been a prosecutor, I understand that.
03:03But this case is a little different.
03:04Epstein's dead, you know.
03:06Maxwell's in prison.
03:07It doesn't, they said that they're not pursuing active prosecution against anybody else.
03:11So I think under those circumstances, hey, release them, you know, put them all up.
03:15I better go vote, guys, but I'll be back out.
