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Este documentário mergulha na tempestade da campanha de cartazes "SEQUESTRADO", que transformou as ruas de Nova Iorque em campos de batalha para ativistas pró-Israel e pró-Palestina.
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00:00Why are you tearing them down?
00:02Innocent people were kidnapped.
00:04Galba.
00:06Alright, I think that's good.
00:08Have a good day. Fuck you, fuck you.
00:10And burn in hell.
00:12Bring them all! Bring them all!
00:14When I see people tearing them down, I don't understand.
00:16It's not something political.
00:18These people are being exploited
00:20to get support
00:22for a genocidal war in Palestine.
00:26This is about 75 plus years
00:28of a settler colonial state.
00:32It's hard for me to think about
00:34this individual ripping down this poster
00:36going home and feeling good about
00:38what they did.
00:40You're ripping down posters of kidnapped
00:42Jewish babies in your little
00:44Yasser Arafat scarves.
00:46Make no mistake, the posters are propaganda.
00:48Of course they are. It's a trap
00:50and you're willingly walking into the trap.
00:52We start with news that broke over the weekend on Saturday,
01:08marking a dark day in the history of Israel.
01:10The Islamist militant group Hamas launched
01:12a surprise attack on Israel
01:14under the cover of the missiles.
01:16A large scale infiltration began
01:18as Hamas militants crossed by land, sea and air.
01:22The gunmen tore through the streets,
01:24leaving a trail of casualties behind.
01:26At least 1,200 Israelis are said to have died in Gaza.
01:34On the evening of October 6th,
01:36I was actually on a friend's couch.
01:40My cousin Sharon lives in Niroz,
01:42which is only a mile away from Gaza.
01:50So usually, everyone checks up on her
01:53to see if she's okay.
01:55Sharon was not answering her phone.
01:58And I heard also at the same time
02:00that my cousin Daniel, who is Sharon's sister,
02:03was visiting for the weekend.
02:05Yeah, we kind of just sat around watching the news,
02:13desperate for information,
02:15waiting and trying to be hopeful.
02:17What is more concerning
02:19is the infiltrations of militants.
02:21We are hearing harrowing reports
02:23from Israeli civilians
02:24who have been barricading themselves
02:26in their bomb shelters,
02:27in their safe rooms,
02:28going on the airwaves,
02:29calling, pleading, begging for help.
02:30I kept telling my brother,
02:32oh, it's okay, there just isn't...
02:35there just isn't service within the Mahmud.
02:38I had to make myself believe that everything was okay.
02:41I was just scrolling on TikTok,
02:44and I came across this video
02:47of what looked to be Israelis
02:50in a tractor with Hamas terrorists around them,
02:53bringing them into Gaza.
02:55When I spotted her in the video,
02:58I had no doubt in my mind that it was her.
03:00Six of my family members were taken hostage by Hamas.
03:15It was...
03:18It's really hard to put into words.
03:21In a way, I think I...
03:24I just tried to not think of the worst.
03:27Tonight, dozens of Israelis who lived in these communities
03:30are still missing and believed to be kidnapped.
03:33My family is honestly...
03:35I know people say this,
03:36but the warmest, most, like, loving,
03:39funny, kind, generous...
03:41And who's this here? Who...
03:43That's Amelia.
03:44Right before it was Daniel.
03:46The babies, I mean, they're children.
03:49Like, what can I say?
03:50They're beautiful, and they're...
03:52They're funny, and they're silly little kids.
04:02I started to spot these posters around,
04:05um...
04:06To see that other people cared about them,
04:10without even me asking them to care about them,
04:13was something that really helped me get through
04:19every day since October 7th.
04:22It meant, like, the world to me,
04:25uh, to see that people cared.
04:27I'm Nitzan Minz.
04:44I'm a professional,
04:45and a professional art.
04:47And I'm Dede,
04:49an art gallery, an art gallery.
04:53I'm a professional art gallery.
04:59We went to New York,
05:01at the beginning of September,
05:02for three months,
05:03to work,
05:04to get a studio.
05:11This month was early,
05:13and then,
05:14the 7th of October.
05:16During the raid,
05:17some fighters also took Israelis as hostages.
05:21Literally dragging people across the border with Gaza,
05:24including a Holocaust survivor
05:25and a wheelchair.
05:26Allahu akbar!
05:27Yeah!
05:28What the fuck?
05:29Every hour to get to the new people,
05:30and to get to the new people,
05:31and to get to the new people,
05:32and to get to the new people.
05:33Two hundred and forty-fifers,
05:36two hundred and forty-fifers,
05:37it's something that's no longer a problem.
05:39Every feed of our Facebook was filled
05:42with people who are looking for their children,
05:46and their children.
05:48Today is my doctor,
05:50Shani Nicolo.
05:51I'm a German state
05:52with a tourist group
05:54in the south of Israel
05:55in Fort Worth,
05:56from a palestinian
05:58from Hamas.
05:59I want to make any help
06:01or any new things
06:02to move forward.
06:04I want to make any help.
06:10When people were unable to do anything
06:12without even wanting to live
06:14or to live,
06:15or be able to live,
06:16or be able to live,
06:17we were here in New York,
06:19and we went to the library,
06:21and people were mostly there.
06:23Nós começamos a achar e achar e achar o que é possível fazer.
06:32Nós começamos a achar e achar o que é possível fazer.
06:36Nós gostamos de adicionar o que nós queremos adicionar os inimigos.
06:38Nós começamos a achar agora, e talvez pode ser capaz disso.
06:43Foi claro que se nós vamos fazer alguma coisa,
06:46isso irá no caminho, porque nós sabemos trabalhar e ativar.
06:50Então, nós decidimos fazer a adaptação do formato que está no cartão.
06:58A primeira coisa é sempre Missing.
07:01Nós decidimos colocar essa palavra em kitnap,
07:05para explicar o histórico, para atirar o seu filho na rua.
07:09É uma palavra mais profunda e também que é muito mais profunda.
07:13nós estamos em certo ponto, estamos em relação a qual é o o e,
07:22e arrumamos o agilhamento,
07:24e estamos fazendo o mesmo que nós fizemos um omen,
07:27um algo que estamos fazendo um homem, um algo que estamos fazendo
07:29em um post-ter e fazer isso, e fazer isso mais rápido,
07:33ou fazer isso mais rápido.
07:38Nós temos 2,000 otakias,
07:39nós temos muitos otakias,
07:40e eles tinham muito medo de vergonha.
07:46Nós estamos segredos que, pelo menos,
07:48alguns pessoas, ao longo do caminho,
07:50foram descanso e pegaram um pôster.
07:52É claro que todos os carregam agora.
07:55Não há tempo para isso.
07:56Um dia que nós estamos passando por um pôster,
07:59nós estamos conversando com os pôsteres,
08:02e ninguém não se sentia para nos ouvir.
08:04Eles estavam olhando para os pôsteres e disseram para nós,
08:08Em inglês? Por que vocês estão em todo mundo? Todos eles estão nos carregados.
08:12Foi aqui algo...
08:15...certo. Era um pouco.
08:20Nós estamos fazendo esse momento em uma situação...
08:23...assuma de abertura.
08:26Muita-siais...
08:27...vameiões-siais.
08:31E se isso não ocorre...
08:32...ámos, talvez, nós precisamos achar mais...
08:35para fazer isso, para ajudar o projeto,
08:38ou seja, até o New York, para voltar para o país.
08:45Nós precisámos de qualquer tipo de mídia que conseguimos,
08:48que nós fazemos um destino e-mail.
08:52E aí, nós voltamos para dormir.
08:54O que é o que é o que é?
09:24Não apenas em New York, em Berlín, em Paris, em Londres.
09:35A dia depois, há imagens da Austrália, de New Zealand, da América do Sul, da América do Sul.
09:41Isso simplesmente foi muito horrível.
09:54A gente já se despediu de Israele, mas a foto e história está chegando em todas as partes do sul,
10:02com com muitas outras que estão agora em que não se esqueçam.
10:08Eu aprendi sobre a campanha de postura bem early.
10:14A mais difícil de ver eram os filhos, os filhos, os filhos, os filhos,
10:21e o que realmente hit home
10:25noia dan
10:28noia was autistic
10:30and that was personal
10:33because i have a son who's autistic
10:35i just remember thinking
10:36oh my god
10:38and i had the same thought her mother apparently had
10:41which was thank god she was with her grandmother
10:43thank god she was with someone who loved her
10:46even in that worst of all possible circumstances
10:50i went from
10:53the sort of oh my god horror
10:56to okay you can't sit there and curse
10:58the darkness what are you going to do
10:59one of the things that i was so curious about
11:08seeing the posters go up all over the place
11:12is why it was that
11:14people spontaneously were doing this
11:16the effects of post-traumatic stress disorder
11:22are sometimes mitigated
11:24if during a trauma
11:26someone takes action
11:28and i think this is one of the reasons why
11:29people felt instinctively
11:31that they're they needed to do something
11:33even people who had never met
11:37those people who were taken hostages
11:39they are all reenacting that first action
11:44that family members and friends were doing
11:46which was we are looking for our loved ones
11:49we're trying to find them
11:51does anybody know where they are
11:53i really didn't do much in regards to hanging posters
12:03i i barely had energy to eat or shower
12:09on october 7th after my mom woke me up that morning
12:14i just saw couldn't even tell you how many people posting come home omer
12:21i don't think my body was ready or meant
12:24to feel that amount of pain or grief
12:29omer had been taken hostage
12:32i grew up with omer so even though we didn't talk frequently
12:36the bond was still very prevalent
12:39so what's your theme
12:41i think we should do a pirate theme for rrc
12:44that's going to be a no for me
12:50i was grieving which was a very strange thing to
12:56kind of grieve a person that is still alive
13:00and i was so grateful for the people who'd put up posters
13:05it made me feel less alone
13:07because in all the pictures he's smiling which is very on-brand for him
13:14and then you realize why you're seeing his face
13:18and
13:20just kind of
13:21takes the floor out from under you every time
13:27the skyline of gaza shrouded in smoke as israeli strikes pummeled residential buildings
13:34the hamas-run health ministry says more than 8 000 palestinians have been killed
13:39when i was putting up these posters it would spark a lot of conversation
13:47people cried to me and i cried to them on the middle of the street
14:06and then also negative comments from people
14:13this man came up to me and told me that if i really cared about you know children
14:19i would be putting up posters of palestinian children
14:22and then i said this is my cousin's daughter
14:25this is my cousin's daughter she is captive in gaza she's a hostage
14:32and he told me that she looks like a white colonizer
14:38that's what i think
14:52what
14:54whole families and babies have been living in fetid tunnels underground
14:59being malnourished getting sick living with untreated wounds
15:03you know what their crime was being at home with their families
15:07É um crime de guerra. Se não protestar os crimes de guerra, o que a gente se protestar?
15:12Me responde!
15:13Me responde, mas 3,000 palestinenses têm perdido sua vida.
15:17As mortes de cifras em Gaza são tragicas.
15:20Não, não, não. Hang on a seconda.
15:22Não todos, não todos.
15:24Me, ma'am.
15:25Espere, espere.
15:34Estava colocando as fotos em Washington Square.
15:37E as eu estou caminhando, eu vejo essas duas mulheres me passando e me dá uma face.
15:42O que você está fazendo? O que você está fazendo?
15:45Você está fazendo a...
15:46O que você está fazendo?
15:47O que você está fazendo?
15:48O que você está fazendo?
15:49Você quer ela morrer? Você importa sobre ela?
15:52Ela está em mãos de terroristas agora.
15:56Estou vendo isso em live, em real-time, é um sentimento que eu não consigo descrever,
16:03um anger que eu nunca nunca senti before em minha vida, contra uma humanidade.
16:09Eu me lembro da primeira vez que eu tinha visto que os posters foram roubados.
16:15Eu me lembro de um lugar que os posters foram roubados.
16:16Eu me lembro de um lugar de Union Square, a subway station.
16:19E os dois, quando você entra, foram lindos com todos os posters de hostage,
16:24e a esquerda wall estava tudo tornando.
16:28Omer's poster foi roubado em half, assim, em cima do centro.
16:32E eu comecei a procurar os papéis para tentar encontrar a outra parte.
16:39Naquela época, eu realmente pensava que era apenas uma pessoa louca,
16:45uma pessoa gigante, uma pessoa gigante.
16:47Eu não percebi que era o começo de uma coisa muito maior.
16:52O que você está fazendo?
16:54Por que você está roubando isso?
16:56Isso é desculpado.
16:57Desculpado.
16:58Desculpado.
17:02Desculpado.
17:03Desculpado.
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17:20Desculpado.
17:21Desculpado.
17:22Desculpado.
17:23O que é isso?
17:53O que é isso?
18:23sobre a maneira que o uso de usos social,
18:28particularmente entre os jovens,
18:30reenforçou o binário moral.
18:33Quando você vai no social media,
18:35você vê os veículos que reenforçam seu próprio veículo,
18:40ou você vê a versão mais absurda do outro lado.
18:45Qualquer violência inflictuada no opressor é um crime,
18:49e qualquer violência inflictuada contra o opressor é lhe combatendo.
18:56Ver essas faces é o último desafio para essa visão binária.
19:08Eu acho que muitos jovens,
19:10minha geração em particular,
19:13nós crescemos no social media,
19:16e eu não gosto de afirmar Instagram por tudo,
19:19mas, você sabe,
19:22eu estou culpando disso,
19:23se eu não gostar de o que alguém está dizendo,
19:25eu simplesmente não segui-los,
19:26e eu não tenho que ver isso mais.
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24:15que nós estamos vivendo, e eles estão perpetuando essa narrativa
24:18para manter que subconsciência...
24:19Por que você responde a minha pergunta?
24:21Por que você vai dar posters de pessoas que foram tomadas hostias?
24:26Com a respeito a quem está sofrendo o perdimento de pessoas que eles amam,
24:31que muitas pessoas no mundo estão sofrendo,
24:34mas há sempre uma espalda e uma demografia específica de pessoas.
24:38Porque, aparentemente, como George Orwell dizia,
24:40algumas pessoas são mais iguais do que outras.
24:45Eu estou falando de várias pessoas que tomaram os postos,
24:48mas eles desculpem a ser entrevistado.
24:51Eu tenho preparado algumas respostas,
24:52baseado em suas declarações.
24:54Eu gostaria de ler alguns deles,
24:56e então responde se você quiser.
25:00Em nossa última conversa, eu pedi meu pai para ficar segura.
25:05O próximo dia, uma bomba de Israel foi levada.
25:09Eu amo ele tão profundo, e meu coração está batendo.
25:12Esses posters que portray Israelis somente as vítimas
25:16são apenas sobre o apoio de mais apoio para o governo Israel,
25:19não sobre o apoio para o seu retorno.
25:22As se isso tudo começou no 7 de octubre.
25:26Em Israel, esses posters podem pressionar o governo
25:30para fazer deals que não seria mais considerado.
25:32Mas aqui no U.S.,
25:33o papel é principalmente sobre decidir
25:35se enviar mais militares a Israel.
25:38Então, esses posters não são realmente
25:40para trazer os homens de volta.
25:41Eles são sobre o apoio para mais destruição.
25:45Eu acho que isso é um interessante crítica.
25:48Você sabe, o que é o U.S. postura
25:52para Israel, para os palestinos,
25:54para o militares de conflito
25:56em que parte do mundo?
25:57O que é a solução?
25:59O que é a solução?
26:00Eu, isso pode ser a base de uma actual conversa.
26:04Mas você não pode ter essa conversa
26:07apenas por terrem-se de um postura
26:09ou, frankly, apenas por terrem-se de um postura.
26:14Meu cousin, Moran,
26:16me disse,
26:17por favor,
26:18tentando voltar para a sua vida.
26:22Antes de ir para o trabalho,
26:25foi um vídeo de meu cousin Daniel
26:28que saiu.
26:29que foi...
26:34difícil
26:37ver ela como assim,
26:40e ver ela como assim,
26:40e ver ela em aquela situação.
26:44Bibi Netanyahu, Shalom.
27:14I watched it over and over again, and I cried, and I said to myself, well, she's alive.
27:28At least there's that. It's proof of life.
27:32And I said, of course they picked her. Of course they chose my cousin.
27:36She's strong, and she has a voice, so I wasn't totally surprised, but there was a sense of relief.
27:44For sure.
27:46We had a sign of life.
27:50It was so scary, though.
27:52And it was almost embarrassing that, like, the world was seeing my family in such a horrible, vulnerable situation,
28:05at the mercy of terrorists.
28:12So I had posters that were, like, right outside my apartment that I could see from my window.
28:18And usually they were torn down within, you know, 12 to 24 hours.
28:22So I decided to go and get a little security camera to see who exactly was doing this every day.
28:31It was multiple people that were doing this.
28:39But one guy in particular, you could see in the footage that he had a knife on him.
28:44This wasn't, like, just someone that was walking by that decided in the moment to tear down these posters.
28:53This person left their home or their job or whatever with the mission of tearing down posters of kidnapped Israelis.
28:59I put it on my social media and immediately the video blows up, gets, like, thousands of views.
29:11Then there were people that were identifying the individual in the video, too.
29:14My intentions wasn't to cancel these people or dox these people.
29:18It was just to show the world that what's happening to people like me.
29:23Dr. Ahmed Al-Kousa, a South Florida dentist seen here in Brickell taking down posters of Israelis kidnapped by Hamas.
29:32There was outrage over this video, and Dr. Al-Kousa was swiftly fired from his job at CG Smile.
29:39You fired him right away?
29:40Right away, without hesitation.
29:41Now the dentist giving his side to the story.
29:44Unfortunately, my video of four seconds gotten taken way out of context, as well as the way that my former employer had portrayed it.
29:54A woman was filmed at an upscale shopping center removing posters of Israeli children who have been taken hostage.
30:02She has been identified as a doctor named Zina Al-Hadib, and she has now been fired.
30:09After one of the NYU students who was caught ripping down posters of Israeli hostages has been identified by her NYU peers,
30:15it's Havika Khalid.
30:17So do you guys think the school should expel them?
30:18So after I was filmed tearing down these posters outside of Tisch Hall,
30:22a student at NYU circulated the video on social media, and she was calling for us to be doxed.
30:28Shortly after celebrities, public figures, and Zionist platforms with millions of followers were sharing our information publicly under the petition that was calling for me to be expelled along with the other students.
30:42People said that they are pulling their donations if NYU does not take disciplinary measures against us.
30:47So it's clear that even NYU admits it, that relevant stakeholders and people with wealth and power are the reason why I was suspended.
30:59Hi, look at that. Taking all the stuff down. Nice to meet you. Now the whole world is going to meet you. Hi. Hello.
31:06No, no, no, no, no.
31:08Don't worry about it.
31:08Okay, you will be all over the news.
31:10Don't worry about it.
31:10You're going to be all over the news.
31:12Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
31:13You're so proud of him.
31:14Don't worry about it.
31:14What is your name?
31:15Don't worry about it.
31:16What is your name?
31:16Show your face.
31:17He posted where children were abducted and kidnapped and taken to Hamal.
31:23He, when I asked him, he said he didn't care. He supports terror.
31:28Please do not support this matter.
31:30When people disclose personal information about someone, when they disclose where they work in order to encourage others to get them fired for their speech,
31:41that creates an intimidating atmosphere where many people are going to shy away from speaking publicly.
31:48This is really a continuation of the phenomenon that's commonly referred to as cancel culture, you know, which reliably creates a climate of fear and self-censorship.
32:01When you know that the price of speaking out on these issues is as high as losing your livelihood, you may reasonably calculate that it's just not worth the cost.
32:14Why did you take them out?
32:17Why did you tear that flyer down?
32:19Oh, I was just looking at it closer.
32:20The death toll in Gaza continues to rise.
32:33The U.S. is urging Israel to reduce civilian casualties.
32:37All of this following a breakdown in talks to release more hostages.
32:41The Hamas-run Ministry of Health says the death toll inside Gaza now surpasses 15,000 Palestinians.
32:52People are calling for a ceasefire.
32:54Netanyahu has said that a ceasefire will not happen until all of the hostages are released.
33:00At the same time, Hamas has implied that the hostages will not be released until there is a ceasefire.
33:07So already we can see that these groups, these parties, are at loggerheads.
33:12The Al-Qassan Brigade has fired a large barrage of rockets from Gaza towards Tel Aviv, reportedly intercepted by the Iron Dome.
33:21And this is being described as one of the largest barrage of rockets on Tel Aviv since October the 7th.
33:26The fact that those rockets are still being fired is showing that Hamas still is going strong.
33:34And they're trying certainly to send that message that nothing so far has been able to quash their capabilities.
33:44Organizers of this rally called for people to flood Brooklyn for Gaza.
33:47And that's exactly what they did.
33:49The massive group marched to the Barclays Center, then the Brooklyn Bridge, temporarily closing it to traffic to march across to Manhattan.
33:56We're gathered here today to condemn the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people, perpetrated by the Israeli government and funded with U.S. taxpayer dollars.
34:07And they will continue to protest, not just until the siege and blockade ends, not just until U.S. military funding to Israel ends, but until Palestine is free.
34:14Somebody that we love grew up in West Bank and Palestine, what's happening to them, it's not fair.
34:20It just shows how corrupt our government is and what they're doing to these poor, innocent people who have never done anything to anybody.
34:27I'm all in favor of peace, but you've got to add free the fucking hostages.
34:31I think pressure works and you should keep pushing until the dam breaks and never stop.
34:53This is not enough, okay?
34:55Only an end, and once the ceasefire comes, an end to the occupation.
35:00Free death toll! Free death toll!
35:03Free death toll!
35:04Free death toll!
35:06My name is Alana Zaychuk, and I'm here to tell you about love.
35:15I love my family, and I promised I would scream to the ends of the earth for them.
35:23For too many in the West, the suffering of hostage families like mine has become a footnote.
35:31Collateral damage in service of some perceived higher universal truth.
35:36For too many, it feels like to care about one family, to love one child, is to diminish the suffering of another.
35:46But the simple human truth is that you don't have to choose.
35:51You can abhor the suffering of Palestinian families and the suffering of Israeli families like mine.
35:59Do you think in this space that we're in right now, there's room to have empathy for the Israelis who lost their lives?
36:11I think right now, if you turn on any mainstream channel, you'll see the stories of Israelis on every screen you look to.
36:18And so I think for me, I will continue to use my platform to uplift the voices of Palestinians and the struggles they're going through.
36:24And they are asking us and begging us to share their stories, and that's what I will continue to do.
36:28Do you have empathy for the Israeli victims?
36:31I think whether or not my empathy goes to Israelis or to Palestinians is really not the question here.
36:38What the question is, is will we call for an end to this genocide, and will we call for a ceasefire?
36:52Excuse me, why are you taking those off?
36:54Why are you taking those off?
36:55Because it's causing the conflict to be worse.
36:58No, it's not.
36:59It's more propaganda.
37:00Tell the world how you can't hold two thoughts in your head.
37:04You can only care about some people, but because they're Jews, they don't deserve your sympathy.
37:07I'm not anti-Semite.
37:09You're not anti-Semite?
37:11It's propaganda because you're not going to find them here.
37:13So I don't know why you put them on.
37:14It's dishonest, man.
37:16It's dishonest that kids were kidnapped out of their beds?
37:19No, mate.
37:19That's not what I'm saying.
37:20So what is dishonest about the kidnapping poster?
37:23It was kidnapped, right?
37:25Propaganda to justify the murder.
37:27So are kids not kidnapped out of their beds?
37:29Oh, please.
37:30The point of those posters in and of itself is not to be like, look at all these children that are lost, okay?
37:36The point of these posters, the real point of these posters is so that someone goes and fucking tries to rip it off so they can fucking film it.
37:44And go, look, look at these scary Arabs.
37:46They hate it.
37:47They have no interest in Israeli lives, okay?
37:51It is the next wave of like, don't think about 3,000 murdered children with our tax dollars and our missiles.
37:59And instead talk about how horrifying what these guys are doing is.
38:05And one thing that I will remind all of you good people that are out here, that there are tabacateurs all across the city.
38:13And what they're waiting for you to do is to waste your energy, ripping down their little posters so they can record you and try to get you fired from a job.
38:24They have their little people all around the city.
38:27Trust me, I know them.
38:28I got a radar for them.
38:30You think they're your people.
38:31You think they're ordinary people.
38:33Trust me when I tell you they are everywhere.
38:35They're on your college campus.
38:37They're outside the supermarket.
38:39They're outside Grand Central Station.
38:50It may be in some cases that people are putting up posters with the intention of causing anger in others.
38:57But that's all part of the debate, right?
38:59I mean, that's so that may be worthy of criticism.
39:02People may say that, look, by doing this, you're not helping bridge the divide between the different sides of this conflict.
39:12But the people doing it at the same time may argue that this is the way that I think is most effective in expressing my views.
39:21And I want to put these posters up where people who disagree with me will see them.
39:25Now, maybe they're not doing that in the most productive way.
39:28But again, that's all part of the debate that that is allowed to happen in this country under the First Amendment.
39:34Now, what are you doing?
39:36Do you know where they are right now?
39:38Do you have anything to do where they are right now?
39:41I'm not fucking Jewish.
39:42He's not Jewish.
39:43I don't know if he is or not.
39:44It doesn't fucking matter.
39:46This is fucking the U.S.
39:47This is New York City.
39:48You don't have a fucking right to touch that shit.
39:50This is a free country.
39:51You can wave your Palestine flag and say that's the Jewish or America whenever you want.
39:55But we can put a fucking sign.
40:00The posters help to raise awareness, to activate people here, sure.
40:07But at the end of the day, how that translates into life-saving intervention, I'm not sure we're making that leap and that the postering is contributing to making that leap.
40:18That's a hard thing to conclude, and I hadn't really thought about it that deeply until you asked the question.
40:32I just got tired of playing whack-a-mole with these sort of invisible enemies, as it were.
40:37And I said, I'm not doing it anymore.
40:39Right?
40:40The definition of insanity is you do the same thing over and over again, and you expect to get a different result.
40:45Which is sort of, in some ways, a metaphor for the whole mess in the Middle East.
40:55We wouldn't be moved to put them up if they didn't work.
40:59It's really effective messaging.
41:04I did it for us.
41:05I did it because I thought that there's something healing about changing our environment.
41:10There's something therapeutic about it.
41:11There's something empowering about it.
41:14But it's nice to know that we're not just talking to ourselves.
41:18No one would rip it down if they didn't care.
41:21I don't think we can convince many people, but they clearly have some sort of power.
41:25We wouldn't be doing this, and I wouldn't have spent this much time doing what I'm doing.
41:31Because they're powerful.
41:31Just hours from now, we expect a pause in the fighting between Israel and Hamas.
41:37The first step toward an expected hostage release on Friday.
41:41We don't yet know the names of who will be in that group.
41:44And it goes without saying, it has been an agonizing wait for their loved ones.
41:48My cousin Moran told me that Daniel and Sharon were on the list.
41:55It didn't feel real, and I could not have any sense of relief until I saw them home.
42:04The Red Cross says they are in their custody.
42:07The Israeli military confirmed that they have been handed over by Hamas to the Red Cross and are making their way to Israel.
42:14The first time they showed clips on the news of the Red Cross trucks coming through, I ran up to the TV, and I could see a glimpse of Danielle's hair from the side.
42:35And I just started crying.
42:36I just saw her.
42:37I knew it was her, and she was on her way home.
42:40And I will never forget the image of Sharon and the twins.
42:46Sharon and another woman wearing these pink outfits.
42:51Each of them holding one of the twins, sleeping, flanked by terrorists, wearing black.
42:59And once again, you know, I had a sigh of relief.
43:06I couldn't believe it.
43:07I couldn't believe my eyes.
43:08It was a second miracle.
43:16Everyone in the world was watching it as if it was, wow, this amazing release of Israeli hostages.
43:22And for me, I was seeing people I love return from hell.
43:26They'll be taken to a military air base in southern Israel, then on to an Israeli hospital, and ultimately reunited with their families.
43:35This is my first time seeing them.
43:38It's an indescribable feeling of relief.
43:42Fighting resumes in Gaza with no agreement to extend the seven-day ceasefire.
43:56It's also important to understand why the pause came to an end.
44:01It came to an end because of Hamas.
44:05We remain intensely focused on getting everyone home, getting hostages back.
44:10There are still about 120 hostages remaining in Gaza.
44:14One of them is 22-year-old Omer Moutra.
44:18Our son, Omer, he was born in New York City one month after 9-11.
44:28And here we are, 23 years later, and he's the victim of another vile terrorist attack.
44:39Imagine waking up every morning praying that he, too, is still waking up every morning, that he is strong and is surviving.
44:51I think the first few days when I was thinking about Omer, I really was hoping that he was dead.
45:09Of course, I wanted him to come home, but the thought of what he would have to live through before he got to that point.
45:22But I feel really horrible saying that.
45:32It's also hard to say if the person who's going to come home is the person that I remember.
45:39I hope he still has his light at the end of all this and his humor, but there's really no way of telling.
45:51My cousins are coping in very different ways.
45:54They also have different experiences.
45:56Danielle has come home with a sense of resolve and purpose.
46:01She's become an amazing advocate for all the hostages.
46:04I'm, Danielle Aloni, who has burned my family in the Kamas, together with a small child of my son of the 6th,
46:16who will not succeed in the world if you will continue to save us.
46:21Prime Minister Netanyahu, seal the deal now and bring them all back now!
46:29Sharon, on the other hand, is in a total state of depression.
46:38How could you not be?
46:40Not only has she experienced a traumatic, terrorizing kidnapping,
46:46filled with smoke and gunshots and blood and death,
46:49Now she has to wait for her husband, and she knows what he's experiencing.
46:58The children ask about him all the time.
47:01I was there, and they run around the house singing a song they made up about their father,
47:08you know, saying, I want my dad, but he's still in Gaza.
47:12That's not normal.
47:22I got here today, to the mandate of the woman's position,
47:30also to explain what it is to be a woman in the same way,
47:32and also to ask everyone to forget the people.
47:34You have visited us the time, the 7th of October,
47:39when we took off our clothes in the pajamas.
47:42There is no chance to be able to tell us again.
47:47David is my power.
47:50There is no one who has been to me today.
47:54You have to have this, and me, and to Emma, and to July,
47:58and to all the families, and to all Israel.
48:00I think Hamas is a vicious enemy
48:14And hostages were the ultimate bargaining chip
48:17At the same time
48:19What is devastating to me
48:22Is the ways in which Bibi and his government
48:24Have placed so little emphasis
48:28On the fate of the hostages
48:29They almost seem like a nuisance to him
48:32It feels like a hopeless place
48:34But, you know, as Jews
48:36We're kind of cuck-out optimists
48:37And the last thing we do is give up all hope
48:40Oh, this is a terrible question
48:51It's a terrible question
48:53It's a terrible question
48:53The goal is not to achieve
48:54There are rules that are still
48:56Now, while we're talking here
48:59And the people still are centered in Gaza
49:00So yes, it causes a lot of consciousness
49:03And yes, it causes a lot of excuses
49:05And it causes a lot of questions
49:05And it comes to the whole world
49:07And it gives answers and senses to the people
49:11It doesn't have a bias
49:13It doesn't have a bias
49:15And it doesn't have a bias
49:15It doesn't have a bias
49:16It doesn't have a bias
49:17It doesn't have a bias
49:18Gaza's health ministry says more than 30,000 Palestinians
49:23have been killed in Gaza since October 7th.
49:27The IDF says it has killed or captured more than 14,000 Hamas combatants.
49:33But Hamas continues to recruit, to regroup, to regenerate.
49:41Is this an unwinnable war, would you say?
49:44This conflict will only end with a political solution.
49:47It won't end with a military victory.
49:52I just really hated seeing them ripped.
49:57I pretty much found one on every single lamppost, every mailbox.
50:03I wanted to take something that I knew was once beautiful and meaningful
50:10and restore the beauty of our community.
50:17Yeah, I just ended up creating a bunch of these paintings.
50:26One of my professors was like,
50:30if Omer comes home and he were to see this, what would he think of it?
50:33You need to make it more hopeful, less angry.
50:44Trying to make my experience palatable for them felt like a total cop-out.
50:52There was no hope.
51:00There was nothing about the situation would lead a normal person to be hopeful.
51:06I think the posters did a really great job of showing who people are and the world we live in
51:22and who is really there for us.
51:26I think these posters kind of threw a stone and the ripples woke us up.
51:35I think the kidnapped posters gave us something tangible and actionable.
51:40It was able to provide a sense of belonging, a sense of feeling like you're doing something.
51:45And at the same time, I think it illuminated something for us.
51:50Through the tearing down of the posters, we learned about this fracture in our society.
51:55Part of the problem with cancel culture is that it runs on this blinding moral and intellectual certainty
52:06where people increasingly view those on the other side
52:10not as people who have good faith disagreements, but as bad people with evil motives.
52:17And when you view someone that way, then it becomes easier to justify shutting them up.
52:23Censorship and cancellation don't change people's minds.
52:28They're not persuasive.
52:29And what they actually can do is just cause resentment.
52:33There's a quote attributed to Sigmund Freud that goes,
52:37the first human to hurl an insult instead of a stone was the founder of civilization.
52:45That escalating feud overseas prompting both passion and protest right here in New York City.
52:50Both countries, Israel and Palestine, have a strong representation right here in New York City.
52:55And those airstrikes can be felt right here at home.
52:58You know what? I am pro-Palestinia.
53:08You ain't. I am. Hold the flag. Hold the flag.
53:11Hold the flag.
53:13They raped people. They kidnapped them. They murdered them.
53:16What are you standing for?
53:18You're here. Go to Gaza.
53:19I murder people. Yeah.
53:20The fucking white supremacist clan rallies.
53:22White supremacists. Did you see the color of my skin?
53:25Yeah. Uh-huh.
53:26And how many Israelis?
53:27White supremacists.
53:28Yeah, you Zionist fucking cunt.
53:30Shut up, you Zionist apartheid genocidal cunt.
53:34You're here.
53:35No.
53:35It's an end match. It's an end match.
53:38Ugly piece of shit. Walk away, bitch. Walk away.
53:42Fucking losers.
53:43I wish we lived in a world, number one, where there wasn't a war to begin with.
53:51And, you know, lived in peace and harmony. That would be, yes, that would be lovely.
53:57I wish, at very least, we could share the poles.
54:04They'd put up their images of their children.
54:07We'd put up images of ours, and it would be sad and tragic and angry, but we'd all share
54:16the public space. I want to live in that world, where we can share the poles.
54:23I want to live in that world.
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