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00:00I haven't yet received my advanced copy of Toxic Boss by Norma Pearce.
00:18You can't sue if the statement is substantially true.
00:21What about libel?
00:22Have you thought maybe you're overreacting?
00:25No! You're firing at the wrong enemy.
00:27That's not how I see it.
00:29You know what Norma means is reality is such a powerful source of inspiration.
00:33Thanks Laura.
00:34Are you here to meet Daniel?
00:35Can you pick another husband to be obsessed with?
00:38I'm not going back to work.
00:39I don't want her to just be a wife.
00:40Okay, so here, here, you want this?
00:42My door is always open.
00:44I don't want any of you to feel unheard.
00:46Keep up the good work guys.
00:48I mean you're just inspiring me every day.
00:54I'm not looking at you.
00:55I'm not looking at you.
00:56I'm not looking at you.
00:57I'm not looking at you.
00:58I'm not looking at you.
00:59I'm not looking at you.
01:00Oh, you don't cheat.
01:01I'm helping you.
01:02My daughter's very competitive.
01:04No, I'm not.
01:05Viv, are you sure you don't want to play?
01:07Oh no, she doesn't like games.
01:08Yeah, poker's gambling and gambling's an addiction.
01:11Oh, well, we don't play with real money.
01:14Oh.
01:15Can we?
01:16Some rent money.
01:17No.
01:18Can't afford it.
01:19Why don't we just have a conversation like adults?
01:21Because we like playing games.
01:22It's fun.
01:23Ev, have you thought any more about speaking to the assembly on Tuesday?
01:27Oh, International Women's Day.
01:29No, I'm booked.
01:31Sorry, but isn't International Women's Day a bit of a sham?
01:34Like, it's more about pink washing rather than actual equality.
01:37Oh, Mum, you can't afford to get betting with a bad hand.
01:39No, not with a gender pay gap.
01:41Oh my gosh, why does everything always have to be about gender?
01:43Exactly.
01:44Feminism is redundant.
01:46Why can't we all just be humanists?
01:48Because humans are the ones that are doing the bad things to humans.
01:51No, I agree with Viv.
01:53Good.
01:54I am available on Tuesday, John.
01:56Lock me in.
01:57Okay.
01:58Do you know women are 50% more likely to be misdiagnosed after a heart attack?
02:02No.
02:03Who cares?
02:04Who cares about medical trials favouring men?
02:06Okay, let's just play poker.
02:08Mum's, like, always angry.
02:10Okay, here's the river.
02:12Boom.
02:13I'm all in.
02:14Somebody give me five more tips.
02:15No.
02:16All right, check.
02:18Fold.
02:19Fold.
02:20I drew the nut blush.
02:21Oh.
02:22Who's shuffling these cards?
02:23I'm not playing this game anymore.
02:25Oh, hang on a minute.
02:26Wait.
02:27Not finished.
02:28Who's up for a game of high cards?
02:29No.
02:30Use of the toys.
02:33I drew it.
02:36Yeah.
02:37It's all right.
02:38Don't try to dunk with an enemy.
02:39It's all right.
02:40Oh, a little town left behind me.
02:41It records the всё they are.
02:42Oh, go ahead.
02:43Yeah.
02:44Now아�fur?
02:45I'm quite enjoying being a 50s housewife.
03:04What about your financial independence?
03:07Daniel's money's my money.
03:08Like, mine is mine.
03:11You won't have any.
03:12I'll have his.
03:15Wouldn't that be disempowering?
03:17Surely there's more to life than just motherhood and working.
03:20It's online shopping, but you need money to do that well.
03:23I think our definitions of success are just different.
03:26That's okay, Ed.
03:27Well, I don't know what you want me to say to that.
03:29Why should I feel ashamed to admit that I enjoy my work?
03:33You ever thought you might be a workaholic?
03:35Yeah, of course I am.
03:36I've worked hard at that.
03:38Nice.
03:39What?
03:40What's my therapist?
03:43She's picking up dog shit.
03:45I didn't say hello.
03:51It's out of context.
03:52She's protecting your privacy.
03:53Sylvie!
03:55Evelyn.
03:56I thought you saw me, but you turned away.
03:59I did see you.
04:00Morning.
04:01Morning.
04:02It must be weird not to say hello.
04:08Okay, that's weird.
04:09It didn't have to be.
04:10You made it weird.
04:11I have to go.
04:14Oh, God.
04:15What is with your hugs?
04:17It felt emotionally dusty.
04:19We've signed up for an intimacy workshop with a somatic therapist.
04:23Oh.
04:24Maybe you could join.
04:26There's nothing wrong with my intimacy.
04:28I'm intimate.
04:29It's a real problem for women our age.
04:32I'm fine, thanks.
04:33You could do a story on it.
04:36Who found that picture of me?
04:41Paternal clock is ticking for DiCaprio.
04:42That's very clever, Evelyn.
04:44We could have done nothing as a protest move to mark International Women's Day, but we wanted
04:49to have some fun.
04:49Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine someone critiquing my appearance.
04:53I mean, what would they say?
04:55I don't know.
04:56Something about the cut of your suit, your 90s hair, looking like a cheating ex and a bad
05:01rom-com?
05:03No one wants to have their bodies splashed across the media in unflattering light.
05:07Yeah, but don't some women, you know, solicit this type of coverage?
05:11Court controversy, per se?
05:13I mean, context is everything.
05:15Whoa, whoa, what?
05:15How does that do you do?
05:16Get him off, get him off.
05:19Change camera.
05:21Get him off.
05:23It's my birthday, yeah?
05:25Well, they were definitely caught in controversy.
05:30Riot girls, viva la protest.
05:33I mean, what were they protesting, bros?
05:36Beauty standards, the way the media treats women, domestic violence, predatory men.
05:41We need more activists.
05:42Yeah.
05:43Oh, Betty.
05:44Oh, hold on.
05:45I'm just getting word that the protesters are launching a new website called Tart.
05:50What?
05:50That was a PR stunt.
05:53Well, I take back what I said earlier about brave activists.
05:57They're not right, girls.
05:58Edited by feminist commentator Rosalind Stone.
06:01She's good.
06:03Um, so, final word for International Women's Day, Evelyn?
06:09Just support women.
06:12Rosalind Stone, two-faced, hypocritical.
06:16Bitch.
06:17I wasn't going to say it out loud.
06:19Well, let's see if she pays her contributors.
06:21They say they pay 15 cents per word.
06:2315 cents?
06:24That's gross.
06:25We pay $50 apiece now.
06:28$50 is 335 words at Tartt.
06:31Whatever.
06:32Look, I wouldn't worry about it.
06:33It seems academic.
06:34That's not our audience.
06:35We're academic.
06:37Aren't we?
06:38Penny's last story was titled, What My Undie Draw Says About Me.
06:41It's about getting comfortable with being comfortable, Paul.
06:46Gender and empathy.
06:47Men shouldn't need to imagine it if it were your wife slash daughter slash mother written by...
06:52Written by who?
06:54Who, Jean?
06:55Your favourite Norma Pierce, senior news editor.
06:57What?
06:59Oh, good old Norma strikes again.
07:03Look, youthfulness is their thing.
07:05We're young feminists smashing barriers, kicking asses.
07:08Yeah, I'd like to know how young Rosalind Stone is.
07:13Gee, find out.
07:14Ev, it's just highbrow, inaccessible, head-up-its-own-ass dribble.
07:19Let's keep the train on the tracks, folks.
07:21Yeah, Paul's right.
07:22It's just head-up-its-own-ass dribble.
07:26Maybe I'll call Rosalind Stone and congratulate her.
07:29No!
07:33Bitch.
07:35Signed you.
07:37Wait, what is it?
07:39I managed to get a small bank loan.
07:42Not easy with your history.
07:44The business account is overdrawn.
07:45You only have enough cash flow for the next three months.
07:49Fuck.
07:51Didn't you mention that there was another option?
07:54Look, I can get you an investor.
07:58But you need to know, the headquarters will be in Naples.
08:03Capisce?
08:04Oh, I like Naples.
08:05It's the New Yorker of Europe.
08:08The hustle, the pizza, it's fun.
08:13Oh, cool.
08:15Naples, Naples.
08:17As in organised crime.
08:20Naples.
08:20The mafia, huh?
08:22I'm not saying another word.
08:24How the fuck do you have mafia connections?
08:29Okay, just give me one more day.
08:32Two on Monday.
08:33That's six more days.
08:34I'm not good at maths.
08:35No shit.
08:39Raise your hands if you love being a woman.
08:41Yes.
08:42I do too.
08:42I do too.
08:45And for me, being a woman is exhilarating.
08:50It's wondrous.
08:52It's emotional.
08:53It's sometimes hormonal.
08:54But I think we've tried so hard to normalise being a woman that we've forgotten how magical
09:01it is.
09:02And we can be independent and well-educated.
09:06We have choices.
09:07We no longer need to be defined by being a boy or a girl.
09:12I know some of you are reading Little Women.
09:15And my message today is inspired by Jo March, my favourite March sister.
09:21She was the writer, the tomboy.
09:24And like her, I had a little crush on Laurie too.
09:27My message is Jo's message.
09:30It is so important to be independent and free so that you never have to ask a man for permission.
09:39Worse still, ask them for money.
09:46Even when you really, really, really need it.
09:50There's braille titles.
09:53Blindfold you.
09:54Blindfold me.
09:55No, I think it's Lady Japanese lover.
09:57Lady Japanese lover.
09:59Are you going to read it to me?
10:01Yeah.
10:01Later.
10:02Yeah, I'd like that.
10:03German literature.
10:04I mean, at least find some romantic fiction.
10:08We were just discussing reorganising the biographies.
10:13Well, how's stimulating?
10:18Okay.
10:20Great speech today.
10:24Thanks.
10:25Hmm.
10:26Do you think that's appropriate?
10:27Canoodling in the library and like horny teenagers?
10:30We were not canoodling.
10:32And don't say horny.
10:33I need to ask you something about work.
10:37No.
10:39You don't even know what it is.
10:40You're going to ask me to invest in Eve because you really, really need it.
10:45What?
10:46Just hear me out.
10:47No.
10:48Yes, I do need an investor for the business, but I'm starting to get really worried about
10:54my own financial future.
10:55Ginny's in a relationship.
10:57You've hooked up with Miss Honey.
10:58Don't be so hypocritical.
11:00You just did a whole rousing speech about the importance of financial independence.
11:04Yes, so those girls can secure their future without making terrible fucking life mistakes
11:08like I did.
11:09Excuse me.
11:10Excuse me.
11:11Could you take this out of the court wrangle, please?
11:13This is a quiet place.
11:14No.
11:15Yes.
11:16Oh, little women.
11:30Did my speech inspire you?
11:31Oh, no.
11:32It's part of the curriculum.
11:34Oh, breaking.
11:35A woman in Alabama is in an intimate relationship with a houseplant.
11:54You've got to hear this.
11:56Tarts posted a brutal takedown of Who Man's Board.
11:59A bunch of men scratching their balls telling women what they want.
12:03We all love Tart.
12:04I mean, compared with Who Man, they write stories that matter.
12:08We do stories that matter, Pen.
12:10It's just got to be more edgy.
12:15Lily, get that wellness vertical up.
12:18You can do a podcast on it.
12:20I got a good lead on an orgasm workshop.
12:22I think it might work.
12:24In the meantime, Pen, give me 400 words on the woman in Alabama that fucks the plant.
12:29Okay, how are the dailies?
12:33You look stiff.
12:34Worried about you.
12:36Now, John's moved on.
12:38Good.
12:39We should move on out of the family home.
12:42I'm stiff because I'm a workaholic.
12:47Oh, she admits it.
12:50You know, Simon's an osteopath.
12:54Yeah, I know.
12:55I'm not interested.
12:56I mean, I don't even...
12:57I could have a look at your neck.
13:00Oh, no.
13:01No, I'm fine.
13:02I just didn't sleep last night.
13:06I haven't relaxed for 14 years.
13:08I'm guessing it's all coming from your hips.
13:11I could have said something really offensive about...
13:20Yes, but you didn't.
13:21I was literally about to say they're not real fucking doctors.
13:24I've asked him to move in.
13:26What?
13:27I don't even know him.
13:28Yes, I do.
13:29What star sign is he?
13:30I don't know.
13:31I don't follow astrology.
13:32There is Libra.
13:33May 6th.
13:34That's Dad's birthday.
13:36Mum, you love having your own space.
13:40With me and John.
13:42What about your financial freedom?
13:44I like it when a man pays.
13:46Two steps forward, one step back.
13:48Yes, but we're always ahead.
13:50He makes me laugh.
13:53I make you laugh.
13:54And I sing in the shower.
13:56Don't you love?
13:57Treats me well, Ev.
13:59Better than your father did.
14:01Charles Manson would have treated you better than Dad did.
14:04I thought he treated those hippies well.
14:06Oh.
14:07Loyal to the end they were.
14:08Look, can't you be happy for me?
14:14Welcome.
14:15Hi, welcome.
14:16Thank you for coming.
14:18Welcome.
14:19Oh, hi.
14:20I'm George.
14:21Hi, Evelyn Jones.
14:22I actually called yesterday.
14:24I'm hoping to run a piece on the workshop for my website, Eve Live.
14:29Do you enjoy watching people being intimate, Evelyn Jones?
14:33Um, well, it depends on what level of intimacy we're talking about.
14:38Well, it's not a spectator sport.
14:40If you want to stay, you're going to have to play.
14:43And then you can write with lived experience.
14:45They're straight reporting to.
14:47I'm not really into this kind of thing.
14:50And I'm going through a divorce, so it might be wasted on me.
14:57I don't have a partner.
15:00Dennis!
15:01Come out here.
15:05Dennis, this is Evelyn.
15:07She'll be your partner today.
15:08Oh.
15:11Welcome, Evelyn.
15:12Don't worry.
15:13We won't see each other again after today.
15:18Okay.
15:19Come on in.
15:26Em!
15:28Eat it.
15:29What is she doing here?
15:30Oh, I'm just going to do a story on George, but he's making me participate.
15:34Are you serious?
15:35This is meant to be about us.
15:37I'm not doing sex stuff in front of her.
15:40Is this a group sex thing?
15:41Oh, my God, relax.
15:44It's a couple's workshop.
15:45George is the best in the biz.
15:47What biz?
15:48Intimacy?
15:50Who's your partner, anyway?
15:51Dennis.
15:52Who's Dennis?
15:54One in the sockets.
15:58Fall into their eyes.
16:01Feel yourself merging with their physical presence.
16:08Evelyn.
16:11A little closer.
16:16A little more.
16:19A tiny bit closer.
16:22Surrender and submit.
16:26I see the pain in your regret.
16:29I see your beauty and your courage.
16:33Explore each other's breath and body sensations.
16:36I see your lust.
16:39I want it.
16:41I see your love.
16:44We should all feel safe in our bodies so we can let go of pent-up emotions and trauma.
16:52I know you're blindfolded, but look deeply into your partner.
16:57Lucy.
16:59Lucy.
17:00Now, we're going to mix things up a little.
17:03I want you to reveal a secret to this new partner.
17:08Something dirty.
17:12You're open now.
17:14Let's relish in that vulnerability.
17:17And speak your truth.
17:19Speak your truth.
17:24I don't really want to do this, so let's just pretend that we've said something dirty.
17:28Ev.
17:29I'm not happy.
17:30I don't know what's going on, but...
17:31Are you pretending?
17:32I'm not happy.
17:33I don't know what's going on, but...
17:34Are you pretending?
17:35I'm not happy, and I don't know what to do.
17:36She's doing all of this for you.
17:37She's pole dancing, for fuck's sake.
17:38She's terrible at it.
17:40She's having sex.
17:41She hates sex.
17:42Stop it.
17:43Stop it.
17:44I'm fucking stuck in this.
17:45Stop it.
17:46I can't.
17:47Where's Dennis?
17:48I want Dennis.
17:49I want Dennis.
17:50You're not happy.
17:51I'm not happy.
17:52I'm not happy.
17:53I'm not happy.
17:55I don't know what's going on, but...
17:56Are you pretending?
17:57I'm not happy, and I don't know what to do.
18:00She's doing all of this for you.
18:02She's pole dancing for fuck's sake.
18:03She's terrible at it.
18:04She's having sex.
18:05Where's Dennis? I want Dennis.
18:13Tell your partner what you see.
18:16We've spoken our truth.
18:18Now, let's sit in it.
18:23Okay, um...
18:29I see your relatively normal-sized head.
18:33I see your masculine energy. It scares me, actually.
18:37I see your lack of self-care.
18:40I see your narcissism.
18:42I see your desperation.
18:44I see your anxiety.
18:46You're barely hanging on.
18:49Can you feel the intimacy in that?
18:54He doesn't even know me.
18:59Trust him.
19:03Go on.
19:08Well, I see.
19:13Your generosity.
19:16You are mirrors for one another, Evelyn.
19:20And this is an exercise in self-reflection.
19:22I see your damage.
19:28I see your damage.
19:31Your trauma.
19:36Do you mean your trauma?
19:38Good.
19:39Good.
19:40But now it's time to forgive yourself, Evelyn.
19:45But now it's time to forgive yourself, Evelyn.
19:46I see your pain.
19:48I see your anger.
19:50I see your pain.
19:51I see your anger.
19:52I know why you said no.
19:53I see your hurt.
19:55I see my blame.
19:56Have you been day drinking again?
19:57Have you been day drinking again?
19:58You encouraged me to start blogging on the living room floor.
19:59Then the coffee table.
20:00Then in the office when you stained the coffee table.
20:01Then in the office when you stained the coffee table.
20:02Then in the office when you stained the coffee table.
20:03I see your pain.
20:04I see your anger.
20:05I know why you said no.
20:06I see your anger.
20:07I know why you said no.
20:08I know why you said no.
20:09I know why you said no.
20:10I know why you said no.
20:11I know why you said no.
20:12I know why you said no.
20:13I see you're hurt.
20:14I see my blame.
20:15Have you been day drinking again?
20:20You encouraged me to start blogging on the living room floor.
20:25Then the coffee table.
20:26Then in the office when you stained the coffee table.
20:30You lent me $39 for the Eve Life URL.
20:34I didn't pay you back.
20:35You didn't have to.
20:36It wasn't transactional.
20:38I've always believed in you.
20:42I just feel so anxious.
20:47Dennis was right.
20:50I'm barely hanging on.
20:52Who the fuck is Dennis?
20:54Doesn't matter.
20:55I deserve a better deal.
20:59I undersold myself in the settlement out of guilt.
21:04And you know that.
21:05You knew it then and you know it now.
21:09I need your support again.
21:13If you don't want to sell the house, can you get a line of credit?
21:17I need the money, John.
21:20You know, I can't just bail you out.
21:26But if I was to help, I would need a stake in the business and some sort of plan.
21:31Yeah, I've got a plan.
21:33I want to further develop the podcast channel.
21:35I mean, I know I'm onto something big there.
21:38Can I think about it?
21:40Women's voices deserve to be heard.
21:46You're a fucking asshole and I'll pay you to the day you die!
21:50Maybe not that one.
21:53Oh dear.
21:55What's happened?
21:56Nothing.
21:57Mate, Viv sounded pretty upset.
22:01We broke up.
22:02Oh.
22:03Why?
22:04I'm still figuring out who I am and she's bossy.
22:07It's not nice to call girls bossy.
22:10Would you prefer she kept her opinions to herself?
22:12Mum, she's exhausting.
22:14She wears everyone down, even her friends.
22:18Oh, she's just misunderstood.
22:21Your first relationships never end up well, mate.
22:27Where's Viv?
22:28We were gonna watch Winona Ryder's Little Women?
22:30We broke up.
22:31I fucking hate this family.
22:34Hey!
22:39I see your pain.
22:48How's your week been?
22:49Terrible.
22:51Worse than putting your shoes on my couch?
22:56Can I try the weighted blanket this time?
22:58Sure.
23:01You're okay.
23:02I don't know.
23:03I'm not going to go.
23:04I'm not going to go.
23:05I'm not going to go.
23:06I'm not going to go.
23:07Oh.
23:10Higher.
23:11Higher.
23:17No, I can't breathe.
23:19I went to an intimacy workshop
23:31I was very gently, verbally abused by Dennis
23:39Who the fuck's Dennis?
23:43And I really responded to it
23:45Did something to me
23:48Elaborate
23:51I was just wondering if my whole life's been a series of mistakes
23:56The only real relationship I've ever had is ruined
24:01My daughter's doing everything she can
24:05Not to be like me
24:07I don't even know how to be a real friend anymore
24:10I'm angry with Lucy
24:12For giving up on herself
24:15So I'm punishing her
24:17What if I was to tell you you are a good friend
24:21And you are well loved
24:24Wouldn't stop the self-blame
24:26Can I tell you what I think?
24:32Obviously
24:32You shouldn't be alone
24:34You know, as busy as you are, you're isolated
24:37I don't know how to do it
24:43Do what?
24:47Be a woman
24:48Oh, hi
25:07Hi, you had the same idea
25:11I often have this idea
25:13Yeah, me too
25:15Weird we haven't had the same idea at the same time before
25:19Must have just missed each other
25:23Until tonight
25:25Do you mind if we don't talk?
25:32I don't hardly know her
25:36But I think I could love her
25:42Crimson and clover
25:47Would you come walking over?
26:00Now I've been waiting to show her
26:06Crimson and clover
26:11Over and over
26:17Over and over
26:17Over and over
26:19Over and over
26:23Over on earth
26:26Go
26:27dividends
26:28And
26:32Go
26:38On antibiotic