Trump Confronts South African President With Articles About White Farmers During Oval Office Meeting

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In his Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, President Trump brought out a stack of articles he said illustrated threats to white farmers.

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00:00He's a terrible reporter.

00:02Quiet, quiet, quiet.

00:05Let's go.

00:06Thank you so much.

00:07President Trump, and it's asking from EMCA in South Africa.

00:10Thank you very much.

00:11Thank you very much.

00:12What would you like President Ramaphosa to do about the situation that we've just seen on the screen?

00:18I don't know. I don't know.

00:20Look, these are articles over the last few days.

00:24Death of people. Death. Death. Death. Horrible death. Death. I don't know.

00:37To pick anyone, white South Africans are fleeing because of the violence and racist laws.

00:45And this is all, I mean, I'll give these to you.

00:48So when you say, what would I like to do? I don't know what to do.

00:52Look at this. White South African couples say that they were attacked violently.

00:57President Trump, why don't you go and see for yourself if it is?

01:00Well, I could do that. Look, here's burial sites all over the place.

01:03They're all, these are all white farmers that are being buried.

01:06And he asks about a jet that was given. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

01:11You know, you are so bad. You're such a bad reporter.

01:14This is one after another. This family was wiped out. I just, I'm just looking.

01:27Can we get a response from President Trump?

01:29Can you give us your reaction to those videos, Mr. President?

01:32Well, I think it's, I think the videos are so, no, no. When you look at the videos, I mean, how does it get worse?

01:40And these are people that are officials and they're saying that, kill the white farmer and take their land.

01:46That's what it is. And I have other friends in South Africa.

01:49I have people that left. One in particular that says it's, you can't go there.

01:55He said they want to take your land and take your land and they kill you.

01:59It's okay. And they say it's okay to do.

02:01Now, we're going to talk about it. But this is a tremendous, look, this is a story recently.

02:07These are all people that recently got killed.

02:10Yeah. And I don't know how it can get any worse.

02:13And you know, the man that you saw, the men that you saw, the people that you saw in that, those are officials.

02:22Those are people that were in office. They had one march, they had a dance in your parliament, whatever you may call it, legislature.

02:31And it was terrible.

02:32Let me clarify that.

02:33Yeah, please.

02:34Let me clarify that because what you saw, the speeches that were being made, one, that is not government policy.

02:41We have a multi-party democracy in South Africa that allows people to express themselves, political parties to adhere to various policies.

02:53And in many cases or in some cases, those policies do not go along with government policy.

03:00Our government policy is completely, completely against what he was saying, even in the parliament.

03:10And they're a small minority party, which is allowed to exist in terms of our constitution.

03:17But you do allow them to take land.

03:20No, no, no, no.

03:21You do allow them to take land.

03:23Nobody can take land.

03:24And then when they take the land, they kill the white farmer.

03:27And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them.

03:30No.

03:31There is quite...

03:32Nothing happens to them.

03:33There is criminality in our country.

03:35People who do get killed, unfortunately, through criminal activity, are not only white people.

03:44The majority of them are black people.

03:46And we have now been utilizing...

03:48The farmers are black.

03:49The farmers are not black.

03:50I don't say that's good or bad.

03:51But the farmers are not black.

03:53And the people that are being killed in large numbers.

03:57And you saw all those grave sites.

03:59And those are people that loved ones going, I guess, on a Sunday morning, they told me,

04:03to pay respect to their loved ones that were killed.

04:07Their heads chopped off.

04:09They died violently.

04:11And, you know, I mean, we're here to talk about it.

04:15And I didn't know we'd get involved here.

04:18But I will say this.

04:20That if the news wasn't fake, like NBC, which is fake news, totally.

04:24One of the worst.

04:25ABC, NBC, CBS.

04:27Horrible.

04:28But if they weren't fake news, like this jerk that we have here.

04:32If we had real reporters, they'd be covering it.

04:35But the fake news in this country doesn't talk about that.

04:39They don't want to talk about it.

04:41But now they have to talk about it.

04:43But they won't.

04:44This won't even be a subject.

04:45They'll have him talking about why did a country give a free thing of this.

04:52Why did a country give an airplane to the United States Air Force?

04:55Okay?

04:56The United States, not to me, to the United States Air Force.

05:00So they could help us out.

05:02Because we need an Air Force One until our, since Air Force One it's being built.

05:07Two of them being built.

05:08But Boeing's a little bit late, unfortunately.

05:11So why did they give us a plane to the United States Air Force?

05:14That's what that idiot talks about after viewing a thing where thousands of people are dead.

05:19I'm sorry.

05:20I don't have a plane to give you.

05:22I wish I did.

05:23I would take it.

05:24I would take it.

05:25If your country offered the United States Air Force a plane, I would take it.

05:29Okay.

05:30Okay.

05:31But coming back to this issue, which I really would like us to talk about and talk about

05:36it very calmly.

05:38We were taught by Nelson Mandela that whenever there are problems, people need to sit down

05:44around the table and talk about it.

05:46Well, there are problems.

05:47And this is precisely what we would also like to talk about, including, of course, trade

05:52matters, investment matters.

05:54So the issues that concern you as the United States.

05:58Those are all risks.

05:59Those are all deaths.

06:00Yeah.

06:01In many ways.

06:02I mean, one should say you are a partner, partner of South Africa, and you are raising

06:09concerns.

06:10And these are concerns that we are willing to talk to you about.

06:15Let me just add quickly.

06:17You know, the criminality that we are experiencing in our country needs quite a lot of technological

06:26capability.

06:27And in one of our areas in South Africa, we are using you as technology, which is able

06:34to, in many ways, identify where shootings are happening and all that.

06:39And I'd like to talk about that because there is support that we can get from you and the

06:45United States to help us deal with all these acts of criminality.

06:50And that is what I believe partnership is all about.

06:53And we are here as a partner so that we can help each other whenever there are challenges.

07:00So I'd like us to discuss it.

07:02And, of course, outside of the media so that we sit down and have a really good discussion

07:09that will lead to good outcomes.

07:11Mr. President, on any other punitive measures that could be in place, should you not be satisfied

07:20that South Africa is fixing some of the very bad things that you treated are happening?

07:27Well, there are a lot of bad things happening in, you know, many countries.

07:31But this, in particular, has been very, very bad.

07:34Very bad.

07:35And because of, you know, we're going to have the whole world watching in another short period

07:40of time because you have the G20.

07:42And that's a big deal.

07:44And it seems like, I mean, I want you to look good.

07:49I don't want you to look bad.

07:51Very good.

07:52But we have hundreds of people, thousands of people trying to come into our country because

07:56they feel they're going to be killed and their land is going to be confiscated.

08:00And you do have laws that were passed that gives you the right to confiscate land for no payment.

08:05You can take away land for no payment.

08:07I want to clarify that because we have a constitution.

08:11Our constitution guarantees and protects the sanctity of tenure of land ownership.

08:18And that constitution protects all South Africans with regard to land ownership.

08:25However, we do say, because we've got to deal with the past, the government, and as your government

08:32also has the right to expropriate land for public use.

08:36And you're doing that.

08:37And we've never really gotten underway with that.

08:41And we are going to be doing that.

08:43You're taking people's land away from them.

08:46We have not.

08:47And those people in many cases are being executed.

08:50They're being executed.

08:52And they happen to be white.

08:54And most of them happen to be farmers.

08:56And that's a tough situation.

08:58I don't know how you explain that.

09:00How do you explain that?

09:02They're taking people's land away.

09:04And in many cases, those people are being executed.

09:07And in many cases, it's not the government that's doing it.

09:09It's people that kill them and then take their land.

09:12And nothing happens to them.

09:14But we have thousands of people that want to come into our country.

09:17They're also going to Australia in a smaller number.

09:21But we have thousands of people that want to come into our country.

09:24And they're white farmers.

09:26And they feel that they're going to die in South Africa.

09:31And it's a bad thing.

09:32Yes, ladies.

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