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00:00Horsing has made his return the other night for the Celtics and what already looked like

00:06an NBA championship caliber team showed off a whole nother gear.

00:12Justin Turpin from WEEI.com, Turp joining us here on Jones and Keefe for his weekly

00:17appearance.

00:18First of all, Turp, how we doing?

00:19Happy Thanksgiving.

00:20Happy Thanksgiving, guys.

00:21What people want to know is were you able to get out of that speeding ticket?

00:25Oh, people do want to know that, actually.

00:26Damn right I was.

00:27We were getting a lot of texts about that earlier in the week.

00:30No, it wasn't a speeding ticket.

00:31What was it?

00:32It was an improper lane change.

00:34But we are free now.

00:35We are off the hook.

00:36Nice.

00:37How about that?

00:38Free man.

00:39Innocent.

00:40What a feeling.

00:41Feels like you have some free money now.

00:42Because you probably had to put some aside thinking, like, what if I get...

00:43Now it's going to the Bozo.

00:44That's where it's going.

00:45Oh, I like that.

00:46Directly to the Bozo TD.

00:47You represented yourself.

00:48You defended yourself.

00:49You didn't know...

00:50Confident individual.

00:51I did it myself.

00:52Shirt and tie?

00:53I did.

00:54I threw on a tie.

00:55Small business, Turp.

00:57White House Turp.

00:58Yeah, White House Turp.

00:59Well, that was a suit.

01:00That was suited and booted.

01:01Full suit.

01:02Yeah.

01:03Man.

01:04That cleans up nice.

01:05I'd see him in not a suit and I'd say, you know what?

01:06Throw the book in.

01:07You're coming with us.

01:08Yeah.

01:09You're coming.

01:10And you do not have the rights to an attorney.

01:12So poor Zingas comes back the other day.

01:16You look pretty good.

01:17Where do you think the Celtics have missed him the most?

01:19Definitely on their rim protection.

01:21That's been one of the biggest issues for them is the points in the paint for opponents.

01:25You look at it, they had 11 blocks in this first game back.

01:27They hadn't had a double-digit block game all season before then.

01:31Why do you think that turned into like a team-wide thing?

01:32Because he only had two, I think.

01:33It's more so just having him back there that they're allowed to play a little bit more

01:37aggressively and they can also play different coverages because of his versatility, which

01:40is just huge for them.

01:41So you saw him make an impact there right away.

01:44And I know Clippers obviously had, I think it was still like 54 points in the paint,

01:49which isn't great, but a lot of that was from Zubac.

01:51So that's going to happen.

01:52He definitely shard that up an area that they really needed help in.

01:55You know, we were talking about this, how Brad Stevens was on the broadcast and you

01:58could tell he was annoyed every time they gave up a layup.

02:00But my kind of theory is Mazzullo's probably good with it.

02:04Like doesn't want dunks and like super easy points, but every time the opponent takes

02:08a two, I feel like Mazzullo thinks that's a win.

02:11Yeah, it depends on the type of two it is.

02:12Like some of them, they're willing to let opponents take.

02:15They're really analytical in that sense of who they're allowing, who they're willing

02:19to let take certain shots and whatnot.

02:21And I am with you because they like to take, if you want to play the two for three game,

02:25it's all about the Celtics and look at, they hit 15 threes in the first half and 12 in

02:31the second quarter alone on Monday.

02:34So if you're, you're not going to beat them by scoring twos, if they're shooting lights

02:37out like that.

02:38For our listeners who are unaware, Terps Young, how old are you Terp?

02:4122.

02:4222.

02:43You just called it a math game.

02:44Do you number crunchers?

02:46Yeah.

02:47Do you like the style of basketball, the modern day basketball?

02:52Do you enjoy that?

02:53Or are you just like, that's just basketball because you're so young?

02:54I do because I find it so fascinating the way the Celtics do it.

02:58When you have a guy like Porzingis and like everyone says the three point shots, the Celtics

03:02are taking a ruining the NBA, which I just can't disagree more.

03:05I think it's actually very entertaining in all of the top eight for the Celtics.

03:09That's Hauser, Pritchard, uh, Cornette, I'm not shooting, not going to have Tatum, Brown,

03:14White, Holiday, Pritchard, Hauser, Horford, and Porzingis.

03:17All of them are league average three point shooters or better.

03:19So it's their ability to space the floor and then you have to pick between who you're going

03:24to let shoot an open three.

03:25It's just fascinating the mind games that they play with other teams.

03:29I really do enjoy it.

03:30Are you worried at all?

03:31The NBA is going the way of baseball where now it's overanalyzed and there's too much

03:35emphasis on, cause like we all like home runs and baseball, but when everybody's swinging

03:39for a home run, you get a lot of, you know, guys who can't do it, guys who are striking

03:45out.

03:46It gets reduced to a game that becomes less watchable.

03:49We all like points.

03:50We all like home runs, but we also don't like what happened with baseball.

03:53Are you worried about that at all with the direction of the NBA?

03:56I'm not because it really starts in the defensive end for the Celtics, right?

03:59So a lot of the, back then they always wanted to see defense like you guys love defense

04:03probably.

04:04Like that's what they, not true.

04:07I really don't.

04:08Yeah.

04:09But that they start with the defensive end.

04:10So I'm not really worried about that.

04:11And they can score in different ways and going back to Porzingis, like look at in the third

04:15quarter, obviously it didn't really matter cause they had a huge lead, but the Clippers

04:18were on a 13 to two run when the Celtics needed to snap that run because their shots weren't

04:22falling.

04:23They went to Porzingis right in the post.

04:24He shot over hard in the first time for two and then got followed on the very next possession.

04:28And just like that, the offense was leveled out again.

04:30So they have different avenues to score.

04:32It's not all just three point shots and granted a lot of it is, but it's not all three point

04:37shooting.

04:38All right.

04:39Wild hypothetical.

04:40If the Celtics had prime Shaquille O'Neal, do you think Joe Missoula would teach him

04:46to shoot threes and want him to shoot threes or would he be okay with him just stuffing

04:50guys down in the paint?

04:51I think he'd be okay with them stuffing guys in the paint.

04:54Cause I feel like he'd be like, Hey Shaq at practice, why don't you step out here and

04:57see?

04:58Oh, they would definitely shoot him in practice.

04:59They would.

05:00A hundred percent.

05:01I don't know if they wouldn't the game.

05:02Cause guys like Cornette doesn't shoot him in the game, but he'll shoot them in practice.

05:05Why does Cornette not shoot three because he used to do it before he got here.

05:08He's like the opposite.

05:09Most guys maybe don't, and then they have to hear.

05:12He doesn't hear the polar opposite of Al Horford who developed a three point shot.

05:16Luke Cornette almost like lost his, he just doesn't take them anymore.

05:19He's very capable of it.

05:21Did they have time Lord shooting threes when he was here?

05:23They were working on it right before they traded.

05:24Remember the videos?

05:25No, no, no.

05:26Yeah.

05:27No, definitely not.

05:28They were, they were, they were clips of him.

05:29I do vaguely remember that.

05:30Yeah.

05:31Doing like corner threes and stuff.

05:32Doesn't that kind of answer your question?

05:33Yeah, I guess.

05:34But he wasn't as dominant as score.

05:35No, no.

05:36I mean, for sure.

05:37I mean, he's not Shaq, but just like a player like that.

05:40They're going to try to get him to turn into a guy who can stick corner threes.

05:42He made his first career three, like two weeks ago.

05:44Lord did?

05:45Time Lord.

05:46Yeah.

05:47In the corner.

05:48The Lord?

05:49Yeah.

05:50The Lord did.

05:51What do you think the plan is for Porzingis?

05:52He played 23 minutes.

05:53Obviously they won that game in a massive blowout.

05:55Is he going to sit back to backs?

05:56Is he going to have any kind of minutes or what do you think the plan is?

05:59He kind of alluded to it the other day that he was going to sit on back to backs.

06:02It's going to kind of be similar to what it was last year, but he said there's no crazy

06:05restrictions to what he's on now, but there's definitely going to be some sort of minute

06:08restrictions because you don't go from five months of recovery to just a full go.

06:12Like this is still the part of him ramping up.

06:15Like that's when he went to the G League scrimmage.

06:17They said he was part of ramping up his rehab and he's still in that process even though

06:20he's back on the court.

06:22So there's going to be some sort of minute restrictions and same like with guys like

06:25Al Horford and Drew Holiday.

06:26They're trying to lower their minutes when possible.

06:28It's going to be the same thing with Porzingis.

06:30Do they need Porzingis to repeat?

06:32They didn't need him last year.

06:33Do they need him to do it this year?

06:34I do think they need him to do it.

06:36They need him.

06:37Yes, I do.

06:39He has a season ending injury in February.

06:40You're going to come in and say the Celtics can no longer win.

06:42I wouldn't say they can no longer win, but it would significantly change how I feel about

06:46it.

06:47Like look at how competitive their games have been this year.

06:49They really haven't been in another point differential still over 10, but it feels like

06:53they've been in a lot of these win ugly games.

06:55It's been a staple of this team.

06:56And then you get Kristaps Porzingis back and it's no coincidence that they have their biggest

07:01win of the season with 32 points.

07:03Like that's no coincidence.

07:04So yeah, they're going to need him more so because of the physicality teams are playing

07:08them a little bit differently and it's just so hard to repeat.

07:10So if you have a guy like that who Jason Tatum literally called a cheat code, you know, it

07:15goes a long way.

07:16They got the Bulls tonight.

07:17Then they got the Cavs in Cleveland on Sunday, which should be a good one.

07:20I'm sure Cleveland's got that one circled like a mini little revenge game.

07:24Just like a what?

07:25Two weeks after they played in the first time.

07:26Yeah.

07:27And that's a good one for the Celtics as well because you're not going to really see a lot

07:30of top tier talent in the Eastern Conference right now.

07:32We're not really seeing a lot of it.

07:34So you get a team like Cleveland that you can kind of see how your whole squad matches

07:39up against like assuming they're healthy going into that no back-to-back because they'll

07:42have a day off Saturday.

07:43So assuming you have your top six, which we haven't seen this year, it's a good test for

07:48the Celtics.

07:49Okay, check out his work Justin Turpin wei.com.

07:53Also on Twitter at Justin M. Turpin turp.

07:58Congrats on being a free man.

07:59Happy Thanksgiving and get back down the hall and we'll run the twitch.

08:04That's video.

08:05Very good.

08:06All right, Turp.

08:07We appreciate it.

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