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Menendez Brothers Star Witnesses for Resentencing Hearing Are Prison Employees | TMZ Live
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11/14/2024
Erik and Lyle Menendez and their legal team are making a full court press for freedom at next month's hearing ... and we've learned their star witnesses are people inside the prison.
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So, there is a big hearing we've told you about coming up on December 11th involving
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the Menendez brothers where they could be set free as early as that day.
00:10
They could walk out totally free after 35 years.
00:15
And so the issue is, how are they going to convince the judge?
00:19
So a lot of people think this is going to be relatives and, you know, people that they
00:25
knew.
00:26
Nope.
00:27
It's going to be people behind bars.
00:30
They are the star witnesses in this case.
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And what it really foretells is they are leaning on the fact that they have been, as we've
00:40
told you, model inmates.
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And they have done not just, this goes beyond just good behavior, that they didn't get into
00:47
fights.
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And they are going to have testimony from the people who work at the prison down in
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San Diego where they have been now.
00:56
We are talking about prison guards.
00:59
We're talking about education, people who work in the education part of the prison there.
01:05
And remember, they were in other prisons as well in the past.
01:12
And they both reunited for the first time since 1996.
01:16
In 2018, they were in separate prisons during that span there.
01:21
But now they're together.
01:22
But there are going to be six prison employees, people who work at the facility, who are going
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to talk about how they've been rehabilitated, how they're model prisoners, how they have
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improved themselves.
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And how they have improved the lives of other inmates.
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Which they've done.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, I got to say something about this.
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It's really, this is why this is really effective.
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That Eric and Lyle were both sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of
01:52
parole.
01:53
That means that by all rights, they're in prison for the rest of their lives.
01:57
As they say, lock them up, throw away the key.
01:59
Lock them up, throw away the key.
02:01
A lot of people under those circumstances would not try to improve themselves.
02:06
They would just throw in the towel and say, screw it, I'll just live my life.
02:11
They've actually done affirmative things to help themselves, to help others, to help the
02:17
prison.
02:18
And I think that's going to go a long way for the judge.
02:21
Look, I think you're right.
02:22
They are going to be able to prove that these guys are model inmates.
02:25
There's a beautification program around the prison.
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Apparently, Eric is a guy who's painted sort of murals around the prison in this beautification
02:31
program in green spaces.
02:33
The thing I struggle with is, what does it really matter whether they turned into savages
02:37
or model inmates if they're serving a prison sentence without the possibility of parole?
02:41
Really, the rehabilitation is kind of beside the point given the nature of the horrendous
02:45
crime they committed.
02:46
Except that the new evidence that they're going to get into during this hearing is that
02:51
there really is no, there's additional evidence suggesting that they really were molested.
02:57
And it's something that the judge pretty much would not allow in the second trial, even
03:02
though he allowed it in the first trial where there was a hung jury and half the jurors
03:06
felt it should be manslaughter because of it.
03:09
So there was some sympathy among jurors on that.
03:12
Right.
03:13
So it seems like there are approaches, there are two steps, right?
03:15
The first is, their sentence should not have been what it was based on the evidence of
03:22
molestation, right?
03:23
So that's the first thing.
03:24
But they were sentenced, now look at what they've done as citizens while they were sentenced.
03:31
And if you look at those two things, and if the judge looks at that favorably, and agrees
03:38
with their argument.
03:39
It's possible that, now just one other thing, there are additional people, there's a letter
03:43
that we got that was filed with the court by the Menendez brothers attorney, Mark Geragos.
03:49
And the letter is from a couple of dozen relatives of the Menendez family.
03:56
And they are all saying, let them out.
04:00
And they give reasons why.
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But what's interesting about these relatives is the way the court views the relatives.
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They're not just relatives of Eric and Lyle.
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They are relatives of Kenny and Jose, and they are considered victims in this case.
04:18
These relatives, they are-
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I think you're 100% right.
04:21
They are victims in this case because their relatives were killed, but it's mixed motive
04:24
because their relatives are also imprisoned.
04:26
So it's not as clean as the relative of someone who's murdered by a stranger.
04:30
It's true.
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I mean, that's true.
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But some of them, we're guessing from what we were hearing, some of them will testify
04:38
as well.
04:39
So remember, you're right about the sentencing, that they're going to try to change the sentence.
04:44
If they can do that, it goes to the parole board and the parole board then decides whether
04:47
to release them.
04:48
But the bigger play for Mark Geragos, the lawyer, is that he is going to go in and ask
04:55
that they change the conviction from murder to manslaughter.
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And if they do that, Eric and Lyle get released immediately because they've already served
05:06
more than the maximum for manslaughter.
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What I found out was, I never told you this, but this is really interesting, a big reason
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they don't want to bring them into the courtroom is that if they get transferred to be able
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to appear in court, they will be housed in LA County Jail.
05:24
LA County Jail is a much more dangerous place than the prison that they're currently in.
05:32
And what I'm told is there's some worry that if the hearing gets postponed, they're going
05:36
to be sitting in LA County Jail, which they don't want to do.
05:39
And they are the celebrities, you know, and I'm sure that adds an element of causing chaos
05:46
in the jail.
05:47
That's true.
05:48
So they wouldn't want to be there.
05:49
That's true too.
05:50
And the jail probably doesn't want them there.
05:51
And they don't want to be there.
05:52
Yeah.
05:53
Hi, I'm Alicia Scott from Chicago, Illinois.
05:55
And I think the Menendez brothers are very traumatized and just hard people to just have
06:01
to live their life.
06:02
And I think that having these officers, correctional officers from the jail that they've spent
06:07
decades around will be very beneficial in their case.
06:11
I think they're going to be too.
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I mean, I do think that they're people who aren't related to them, but they've interacted
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with them and they've evaluated them.
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And they're people in law enforcement.
06:21
And they're people in law enforcement.
06:22
Right.
06:23
I think it's going to be helpful.
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