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00:00the NFL world was on the edge of its seat waiting for Shadira Sanders to get drafted

00:11and waiting and waiting and waiting uh that that was it it got out of control the whole thing

00:18got so out of control and look we talked about it a couple of months ago with our um quarterback

00:25needy teams and everything like that and the desperation that comes with that and I will say

00:30I kudos to NFL teams for not doing what NFL teams have done for a very long time and that is well

00:38we need a quarterback draft a quarterback need him we gotta get him let's do it um because I feel like

00:45there would be a lot of drafts where Shadir would have gone very early now do I think he fell too

00:51much yes I do I absolutely do um that like he is better than a fifth round pick there's there's no

00:56question about that from a talent aspect he is so much better than a a fifth round pick but uh like

01:05also like the talk of him going second at some point well he wasn't the second best prospect in

01:09the draft when we did the quarterback needy episode a while ago like during the NFL season um Cam Ward

01:15was the ninth best player on people's boards and Shadir I think was 15 was kind of a consensus where

01:21he was at and so drafting that guy second can set your franchise back a little bit because while I

01:26do think that Shadir has um quite a bit going for him I also don't believe that he should be a starter

01:33year one and so like the talk of well he like New Orleans needs a quarterback Pittsburgh needs a

01:38quarterback like that is doing him a gigantic disservice to put him in a spot where he needs to

01:44go out and needs to be successful right especially with Pittsburgh to go out and battle with Lamar Jackson

01:49and Joe Burrow four times a year and try to keep up with those teams in the playoffs while also

01:55having to deal with Mahomes and Allen um and all these teams in the AFC to try to grow into a

02:01playoffs but while also trying to overcome what are some talent deficiencies in his game that's just

02:07that's not fair to him it probably also wouldn't have been fair to just throw him out there with

02:11the Saints although you don't really have that same level of competition and so maybe you could get

02:14away with it but um I I do think that there is a lot of discussions that need to be had and I do

02:22think that for a very long time and probably still there are a lot of things that you can look at in

02:29the NFL and if it's like a hmm that seems a little bit questionable questionable pointing to racism

02:34doesn't seem like it is the weird the biggest stretch to go to when you look at how some NFL people

02:40are treated how some other NFL people are treated how some NFL people are talked about and how other

02:44NFL people are talked about so I I could absolutely see where if you saw this situation playing out

02:51and you just wanted to walk by and be like ah that's racism you can you I can see where you would get to

02:56on that one I I genuinely and look as a white dude in Canada maybe this isn't my place to decide no

03:02I I am not the the high court of this or anything like that but I think that there are at least a few

03:07footbally things that you can use to justify it uh not racism but uh to to justify the the Shador

03:15Sanders falling at least here so I um I think the big one and it's deeds mentioning it in the chat

03:24the reports of him ignoring some teams during interviews is crazy he is either getting some

03:29really really bad advice or that's probably it like he or just has an inflated sense of self

03:36which it's probably both right like that there wasn't um because he's him and his family is what

03:43it is he didn't really have an official agent and I think that is the first thing they needed to keep

03:48the Dion aspect of it kind of at arm's reach a little bit and that was one of the things coming

03:52out of their camp was that oh this is an attack on Dion I was like well if he is so attackable why do

03:56you have him so close to the kid then and I get like father-son relationship and it's that is something

04:01that is kind of overlooked in all of this because of how they portray themselves sometimes is that

04:04it's really cool that that was a relationship that played out over the last four years in college

04:09and now that this is going to be an NFL thing that they share like that's a really really cool thing

04:15that could be happening here um but if if this is how it's going to play out it was a gigantic misstep

04:22the advantage of being that the nepo kid is Dion has been in the NFL and he understands kind of how

04:30the game works and all those different things and so as a coach too and as a recruiter you have to

04:36know that you can't go in with that sort of a thing look if he wants to sandbag an interview with

04:42the Chiefs that seems that Kansas City's probably set at quarterback right although given how this

04:47whole thing played out I would suggest that maybe him being the backup to Mahomes wouldn't have been

04:52the worst thing you know um but yeah to unless you are like look at this draft right now uh that

04:59we just had Cam Ward I don't even think Cam Ward could have effectively ignored and sandbagged

05:06interviews you had a pretty good idea that he was going to go one to the Tennessee Titans but they

05:11were saying look we're not going to pass up generational talents well that's Travis Hunter and that's

05:14Abdul Carter um like and then after that like again there are certain teams that need a quarterback

05:20you probably don't need an interview with the Patriots they got their guy um but other than

05:25that like I don't even think Cam Ward could have really just passed on a lot of interviews Travis

05:31Hunter could have Travis Hunter didn't need to take an interview with the Packers he wasn't getting

05:36down to he wasn't getting down to the Falcons down at 15 okay that wasn't happening he would the

05:41furthest he was going was three uh maybe four if teams got a little frisky with the quarterbacks there

05:47but then after that like yeah he probably didn't need to I was gonna say he didn't need to

05:50take an interview with Jacksonville Jacksonville ends up taking him uh which is also the other

05:53part of the Shador thing like ah I'm not gonna be there when you guys draft like have you heard

05:56of trades have you seen some of the dumb trades that have been made we just saw Ricky Williams on

06:01a podcast the Saints traded their whole draft class for that guy so I I don't think you can dismiss anyone

06:07if you are a quarterback and there are teams potentially moving up for you in the draft um so

06:12yes two guys two guys in this entire draft could have um sat out the the interview process so that is

06:18it is an arrogance and it is just a level of dumb that should not be happening around that kid the

06:25other part of it is that if he is not going to start for you is that a distraction you really want

06:33and I don't think he should be starting for you and so that's why I still think the Raiders were the

06:39best situation for him um because you have a very for the first time in a long time you have

06:46basically for lack of a better term a mature front office in in Vegas with um like Tom Brady is the

06:55owner Pete Carroll Chip Kelly like these guys have been around the block a time or two I'm not gonna

07:00say Chip Kelly's job security is great like one of those things is not like the other uh Tom Brady

07:04Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly but for Brady and and Pete Carroll they're not going anywhere like they

07:09have an understanding and they've kind of seen a lot of these things before so if Gino Smith goes two

07:14and three with the Raiders to start and Deion Sanders is up at the podium after week six in

07:18the college football season like yeah I know we just lost 28 21 but what the fuck are the Raiders

07:23doing that Pete Carroll's gonna be like well I um like he can do the Patrick well like I'm sorry I

07:27couldn't hear I got my my Super Bowl ring in my ear um but those guys can handle that a lot of coaches

07:32couldn't and a lot of front offices couldn't and so if if you're gonna bring him in to redshirt him

07:37which is what the kid needs maybe you would rather have Jackson Dart and look maybe Jackson

07:43Dart's ceiling isn't as high as Shador's but Dart's not starting week one for the Giants neither was

07:47Shador and I'm not gonna have to fucking hear about it from Deion for week after week after week

07:51and from the media week after week after we're like hey why isn't the kid playing why isn't the

07:55kid playing because he's not ready and then I have to say that my kid's not ready and now that's me

07:59shitting on him and it turns into a whole other thing so it just become it became this problem that

08:05they created themselves and that's you feel you feel tough about it but again I do think a lot

08:13of the conversations kind of veered way too far away right because like I was talking to my wife

08:19about the whole situation explaining to her everything that was going on and everything

08:22with it and then I was like the good thing is is that as the draft was going and basically after

08:27Pittsburgh passed it was like okay so this kid's gonna be in a free fall and so people

08:32Mel Kiper but a lot of people got very frustrated and so you were starting to see clips of him on

08:37social media and I do think that the reactions kind of went a bit too far on Shador because

08:41watching it I was like oh right like he was good you know and there are measurables that he

08:47needs improvement on he doesn't have the biggest arm he doesn't have um a lot of those offensive gifts

08:53that a lot of these guys have but the fact that he was able to drag that Colorado team to basically

08:58national relevance with minimal help aside from Travis Hunter was quite something um and so like

09:04he has those intangibles that you really do like but again if we're gonna be selling a guy on

09:08intangibles let's not be screwing up the board interview and everything like that right so um

09:15but it was nice at least to see the videos it's like oh right this isn't a guy who we're gonna get

09:20to training camp and get to OTAs and it's like oh maybe he should have been uh throwing left-handed

09:24the whole time that was the problem he wasn't that bad but he wasn't nearly as good as he thought he

09:30was and I actually think the Browns are now a bad landing spot for him I think they were a spot that

09:35made the most sense you have the big money quarterback in Deshaun who's probably not playing

09:38this year um who again by the way can never mention him without saying awful human being um so you have

09:44that you have Joe Flacco who is in there as the the whatever now you're gonna have some explaining to

09:48do because the social media video came out with Deion Sanders being like Joe Flacco he's my age

09:52which is a funny line but kind of an awkward thing for your dad to say about your teammate now

09:56but then they also draft a quarterback and so like it just once you do that I feel like it takes you

10:03out of the Shador thing regardless of like okay it's fallen enough um I just feel like no matter what

10:11is happening whether it is Flacco or whoever at quarterback there's always going to be a but what

10:17about Shador what about Shador what about him why not hey and the Browns aren't in a spot that

10:22lets him develop in that way and now you have two rookies who you're trying to develop so honestly

10:27like I feel like what should happen is Joe Flacco gets to just like hang out like read the playbook

10:33whatever get a couple of things but it should be Shador getting all the reps in practice which is

10:38kind of what the Patriots were able to do with Drake May because Jacoby Brissett knows the system that

10:42he was in so you let him just kind of zip the ball all the way around whatever and Drake May gets all

10:47the reps in practice because Jacoby what's Jacoby gonna turn into at this point you let Drake May get a lot

10:51of the reps in practice let him develop so that he can hit the ground running um you have two rookie

10:55quarterbacks you're gonna try to do that now with out in Cleveland so I just I I think they screwed it

11:00up quite a bit I think all of the different sides really did screw that one up

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