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See No Evil Season 14 Episode 9
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00:009-1-1, where is your emergency?
00:05I'd like to see if I could get an officer
00:07to do a welfare check on my mother.
00:09No one we know of has heard from her quite some time.
00:12It just drew a lot of alarm bells for everybody.
00:15The next steps to take is to obtain that surveillance footage.
00:19It is suspicious.
00:21What are they doing with this money?
00:23I was almost in disbelief.
00:25It was hard for me to realize
00:27that somebody could do this to another human being.
00:30It felt like I couldn't breathe.
00:33Don't stop for the time.
00:35Did you kill her?
00:5771-year-old Cindy Mudd is exchanging presents with her family at Christmas.
01:09Thank you, Haley.
01:12She gave the biggest bear hugs that you could possibly imagine.
01:17She was the perfect grandma in my eyes.
01:20I feel like she was made to be a grandma.
01:23When we did celebrate Christmas, it was a wonderful day.
01:29Nan was a virologist.
01:32She loved what she did, and she was pretty miraculous.
01:36I loved her for it.
01:39My mother was a single mother,
01:42and she worked really, really hard to provide for me.
01:45She did a great job.
01:48Cindy's loyal dog, Dusty, isn't left out.
01:52Dogs were always part of her life, but she was a dog lover.
01:57I can guarantee that dog was at her side at all times.
02:03Just like every other pet we've ever had.
02:07Oh, look what we got here.
02:10Look at that.
02:11That's pretty cool.
02:12Nan started to show signs of dementia and early Alzheimer's.
02:16The last half a dozen times that I saw my mom,
02:20each time I saw her, there was a definite decline in her mental status.
02:26But my mom was funny and strong and kind.
02:32You just never think that something like this is going to happen to your family.
02:44My name is Jessica Bean, and I'd like to see if I could get an officer to do a welfare check on my mother.
02:51On August 18th, we received a call from an individual who was concerned about Cynthia Mudd,
02:57who lived in our Crosslanes area of Kanawha County.
03:00I've been coming by the house every day for like the last week, and no one's answering.
03:05No one we know of has heard from her in quite some time.
03:08I had started going down there every day and just pounding on the door.
03:12The only contact we've had has been with this house guest, and he said,
03:16oh, she went away on vacation.
03:18My mother doesn't have the means to take a vacation.
03:20She doesn't have a car.
03:21She doesn't have the money.
03:22We don't know what's going on.
03:24No one's answering.
03:25Is the house guest still there?
03:27The house guest isn't answering the door if he is.
03:31If they haven't been in contact, it could indicate that there's a very serious problem,
03:36and we need to find out as quickly as possible the condition of the individual.
03:41All right, Jessica, I'll get somebody over there to check on her.
03:47Dispatch sends Corporal A.J. Miller to Cindy's house.
03:52I noticed that the house was in really good shape.
03:59The yard was mowed.
04:05Sheriff's office.
04:07I knocked on the residents for over 15 minutes trying to make contact.
04:12I could hear a dog barking inside the home.
04:16Unless we see somebody that is in need of our assistance,
04:21can't open doors that we're not invited inside of.
04:25We generally try and look in the windows
04:28to make sure that somebody hasn't fallen.
04:30But they all had curtains and blinds on them.
04:33So I was unable to see inside the residence.
04:36I hit the siren to try and get her attention.
04:44Still no contact.
04:49Cindy's daughter, Jessica, arrives at her mother's home to speak with Corporal Miller.
04:55I remember meeting Jessica.
04:57She could tell me the specifics of her mother's living arrangement with a man that she's had living there.
05:04So who was the person that was living with your mom?
05:07His name is Sam May.
05:09She wanted a partner.
05:11She wanted a soulmate.
05:13She wanted someone to be with her.
05:17Like a companion.
05:19But my mother's relationship with Sam May felt like something that you would see on Jerry Springer.
05:28Sam and my mother were a couple.
05:30But he had gotten another female pregnant, Michelle, and moved her into the house.
05:36And my mom was taking care of Sam and his girlfriend.
05:40Michelle had resided in the home up until about a year ago.
05:44Do you have Sam's cell number?
05:47I tried calling it over and over this week.
05:50It rang once.
05:51Then nothing.
05:57His telephone was out of service.
05:59So you couldn't leave a message.
06:02An MS in-person complaint, it's imperative to campus area to find out when somebody had last seen
06:09Mrs. Mudd.
06:11The sooner we get that information, the better.
06:16Deputies speak with Cindy's neighbors.
06:19We had run into her neighbor, Lorna.
06:22Excuse me, ma'am.
06:23I'm with the sheriff's office.
06:25Do you know your neighbor, Cindy Mudd?
06:27Yes.
06:28I've not seen her.
06:29Not for a while.
06:30It had been at least three weeks since she had seen her.
06:34Lorna made mention that she had recognized
06:38a younger female enter through a window of the residence.
06:43When we hear about somebody going through a window, it does create suspicion.
06:49Lorna says the woman she saw enter the house is Sam's ex-girlfriend, Michelle.
06:54They definitely need to be questioned by law enforcement in regard to why they're doing it.
06:59What's going on?
07:01It's imperative that we make contact with anybody that has had first-hand knowledge of her whereabouts,
07:07especially somebody that resides with her.
07:09Who else has been living there?
07:11Two guys, Sam and Arnold.
07:14Who is Arnold?
07:16Sam and Arnold were very good friends.
07:19Arnold would be just as important to speak to because if anything had happened,
07:23he may very well have either heard or seen something that would be beneficial to our investigation.
07:30Lorna had explained that Arnold worked at a gas station about a mile and a half from her home.
07:38I made contact with the manager of the gas station.
07:43Excuse me, ma'am.
07:44I'm with the sheriff's office.
07:45I'm looking for one of your employees, Arnold Hiller.
07:48I was advised that he was let go.
07:51You got his cell number?
07:53Arnold's telephone was out of service, so you couldn't leave a message.
08:08It's kind of a roadblock.
08:13Kanawha County Sheriff's Office opens a missing persons investigation to find Cindy Mudd.
08:18Detective Alford leads the team.
08:25Once all efforts are exhausted in locating her, we put her into NCIC as a missing person.
08:32You just got to go to your next piece of key evidence to hopefully locate her.
08:39Investigators access Cindy's bank records to look for clues that might explain her disappearance.
08:45We got Cindy's banking transactions.
08:48Come and have a look.
08:52In looking at the transaction history, I noticed that there had been some ATM withdrawals and a lot of activity on July 20th, 21st, 22nd, and July 26th from a Speedway gas station, which is in very close proximity to Cynthia's residence.
09:10That's a total of $832.94.
09:16That's a lot of money.
09:18Those four transactions, they were back to back.
09:21And from looking at her banking history, it's something out of the ordinary.
09:26Let's check it out.
09:28Going down to that gas station, we want to obtain that surveillance footage.
09:31Show me the footage from the camera on the ATM.
09:42We viewed the footage on July 26th, right at the time of the exact transaction.
09:50Our hopes is to see who exactly is using that debit card.
09:55Who's that?
09:56I immediately recognized that person using Cindy's card as Samuel May.
10:10I don't see Cindy. Show me the exterior camera.
10:21We may be looking for Cindy as well, see if she may be waiting for him out in the parking lot.
10:26But we see nobody on the footage other than him.
10:32Cynthia had some health issues, so it sounded as if he had become like a caretaker for Cynthia.
10:42It wouldn't be unusual for Sam to have Cynthia's card to buy groceries or other necessities for Cynthia.
10:51Cindy's card was used at the same ATM three more times.
10:57Let's watch the footage from the dates of the other transactions.
11:06On July 20th and July 21st, I saw that it was Samuel May again.
11:12And he arrived at the store on foot.
11:16He made the cash withdrawal.
11:17He withdraws $403.50 on both of those days.
11:25It was very suspicious.
11:28And he headed back in the same direction of Cynthia Mudd's residence.
11:36No, Cindy.
11:39Can you play the footage from July 22nd?
11:41What was interesting about July 22nd was not only was Samuel May the one that used the card at the ATM, but he was also accompanied by another white male.
11:54He's wearing a ball cap, shorts, and a maroon-colored t-shirt.
12:04It was clear that the two men were together. They were communicating. They purchased some snacks together.
12:12The male that's with Sam on the surveillance video. He had eyeglasses. He's noticeably shorter and stockier. He's got facial hair.
12:25That man with Sam was Arnold Hiller.
12:31The friend of Samuel's who lived in the home with them.
12:36Show me the outside camera.
12:37Show me the outside camera.
12:44They exit the store together, and then they walk back into the direction of Cindy's house.
12:52Seeing that Sam and Arnold had consistently withdrawn money, it is suspicious.
12:57What need did they have for this immediate cash in such large amounts?
13:03What are they doing with this money?
13:06They're just getting out as much money as the ATM will allow them.
13:10The last time Sam and Arnold were seen were just a few days prior.
13:16So in our minds, we have to locate them as quick as possible.
13:21Thank you. We're going to need a copy of the footage here.
13:23Thanks.
13:24Cindy's daughter, Jessica, calls Detective Alford with information she learned from Sam's ex, Michelle.
13:34Detective Alford speaking.
13:36Hi, Jessica. How can I help you?
13:39I learned from Jessica that her and Michelle had been in contact with each other.
13:43She said that the last time she saw my mother, Cindy, was a month ago.
13:49Michelle said she broke into the house.
13:50She climbed in through a window and she said no one's there.
13:54So she thinks that he has fled.
13:56Jessica had given her permission to do that to see if she could maybe locate Cindy.
14:03She told me that she had gone to the house because she hadn't heard anything from my mom.
14:10And she too was concerned for my mother.
14:16It was Michelle who neighbor Lorna saw climb through Cindy's window.
14:21Investigators charge her with no crimes for entering Cindy's home.
14:25It was obviously very important that we find and speak to Michelle.
14:37We met Michelle outside of her place of employment.
14:41We interviewed her just in our vehicle outside of the Dollar Tree.
14:44We asked Michelle about going over to Cynthia's house.
14:51She'd been unable to reach Samuel or Arnold by phone.
14:55And so she decided to go over to check on the mall.
14:59I actually let myself into the house and I actually went through the window.
15:03I expected to find Sam passed out in bed.
15:06I was quite shocked to find the house empty.
15:08In Cindy's room, there's pillows missing off of her bed, which is weird because she likes pillows.
15:19If she didn't see any signs of a disturbance, what happened to Cynthia?
15:25So what's your gut telling you?
15:27My gut's telling me that something bad happened to Cindy.
15:31Michelle reveals that she broke up with Sam a week earlier.
15:34He's been a little agitated.
15:39He's been distant, major mood swings.
15:43He'll be okay one minute and the next minute he's angry at everyone.
15:48Drunk, he's capable of anything.
15:53If Sam wasn't at Salton Drive, do you have any idea where you'd be at?
15:59I don't, honestly.
16:00Michelle explained it because she shares a child with Samuel.
16:04She and Samuel have a tracking app called Life 360.
16:10This was very exciting because that could obviously give us GPS locations.
16:15And that just basically shows when it went off in this last location?
16:19Yeah, it shows the last time that he was out of the house.
16:22That was Tuesday night, and then he went home.
16:26Wednesday morning is when Sam turned his phone off.
16:29So that was the last time I know of him being at that location.
16:33It's still off. It still says off since 944 Wednesday.
16:36Sam turns his tracking app off on August 17th, about two days before Cindy was reported missing.
16:49It raises a red flag.
16:51Why would he stop sharing his location?
16:53Two days, that's a lot of time.
16:54And with the amount of money they were retrieving from the ATM, I'm sure they could pay someone or maybe take a bus and get out of state.
17:03So we have to locate them as quick as possible.
17:06Back at the sheriff's office, investigators reanalyze Cindy's banking activity.
17:14At this point in the investigation, the transaction history using Cynthia's card was the only way we had of tracking anybody.
17:23There's new transactions on Cindy's card.
17:26Two days ago.
17:28We found a transaction on August 17th, the day Sam's Life 360 was turned off.
17:34And that was at the family dollar, in the amount of approximately $71.
17:41We had seen who was using the card in July.
17:45But we wanted some video surveillance that would show us who in particular is using it in August.
17:59Can we see the footage from August 17th?
18:01We learned that the family dollar does have surveillance cameras and they provided footage of the transaction from August 17th.
18:11Yeah, play from there.
18:14From the camera that's facing the doors, I'm hoping to see who's using Cynthia Mudd's card.
18:19Stop there.
18:20At 6.07 PM exiting the store, we see two white males, one in a camouflage hat and a blue shirt with a gray backpack, and we see another male in a white sleeveless shirt and khaki shorts.
18:32That's Sam and Arnold's.
18:33It was a confidence booster and let us know we're moving in the right direction.
18:50Rewind.
18:51We're hoping to see what they're purchasing and also when they're checking out as well.
18:59The two don't seem like they're in hiding.
19:03They don't appear nervous.
19:04They are chatty.
19:05They're just kind of joking back and forth.
19:06They shop around for a little while and they pay with Cindy's card.
19:20It's a big moment for us as investigators because we see them still continuing spending Cindy's money and she's still a missing person.
19:33Across town, Cindy's family grow increasingly concerned about her whereabouts.
19:41Hi.
19:42Detective Alford?
19:45And you heard anything yet?
19:46And the police were keeping me informed and making themselves available to me.
19:52Please let me know.
19:55Nothing yet.
19:57At one point, it felt like a nightmare.
20:03I was just hoping that I was wrong and that I'd been worrying for nothing.
20:16My fears were pretty dark at that point, but I was hoping that maybe she was just sick.
20:28On the following day after we did the welfare check, a neighbor contacted the sheriff's office about Cynthia's dog.
20:34911, where's your emergency?
20:35Well, I don't know if anything's going on or not, but this lady across the road, the elderly lady, had the dog.
20:44Well, it's been out for days and it's been over my porch eating cat food.
20:48The neighbor thought that was very unusual.
20:52She also went with the dog back over to the residence.
20:55I went through the door and knocked on the door to check on the lady and nobody answered.
20:59I followed the dog because it went around back and he kept missing a big old pile of brush and stuff and he just keeps missing and whining.
21:06The dog kept going to this location in the backyard, pawing at the ground.
21:12It just drew a lot of alarm bells for everybody.
21:16Deputies went and responded to that call.
21:20So I pulled up to the house.
21:24I then went over and spoke with the neighbor, Tonya, who was the complainant for this 911 call.
21:29I asked her to show me specifically the area of the yard that she was uncomfortable with.
21:38Hi, boy.
21:40I'm going to go have a look.
21:42The dog came with me.
21:44He shadowed me over that location.
21:47Along the back fence, directly behind the house, there was what looked to be a partially covered pile of wood.
21:59I'm a canine handler.
22:01I pay a lot of attention to the dog, to how the dog is interacting with the environment.
22:08As soon as I got close to that wood pile, the dog laid down on his stomach, looked directly at the side of it, and he whimpered.
22:18His behavior completely changed.
22:20See something.
22:21I realized that what was meant to look like a wood pile was actually a stack of other stuff.
22:31I peeled part of like a outdoor backyard pool, and I saw what I thought was a side of a chest-style freezer.
22:41It was then that it became completely obvious that I was looking at a form of camouflage.
22:45There were several screws holding the freezer door shut.
22:51That immediately set off some red flags for me.
22:55I believed that there was something in the freezer that we needed to get to.
23:00Corporal Ratliff calls for backup.
23:02I receive a call to go to Salt and Drive.
23:08So I stop what I'm doing, and I drive there.
23:14When I walk into the backyard, it definitely appeared like someone wanted to conceal this deep freezer from people seeing it.
23:22I think that that dog was letting us know that something was wrong with that area right there.
23:26We attempt to open it.
23:29We actually used pry bars to get the screws out of the way.
23:33There was a strong odor.
23:37I have only ever been able to associate it with death.
23:44We locate this roll of green carpet.
23:49We lifted the carpet out of the deep freezer, and it's got nylon rope around it, like somebody had tied the carpet to make it stay together.
24:02Carefully, they started to peel it open little by little.
24:07We're able to see human bones coming out of that carpet in a human skull.
24:11Based on the state of decomposition, this body has obviously been in the freezer much longer than a day.
24:24We believe that the body in the deep freezer is Cynthia Mudd.
24:29I was almost like in disbelief, you know.
24:34It was hard for me to realize that somebody could do this to another human being.
24:37The medical examiner's office was able to determine that in fact was Cynthia Mudd.
24:53The autopsy revealed that Cynthia had a fractured rib and a fractured sternum.
25:00That information told me that either Cynthia had a very severe accident, whether that be a fall or someone else has caused those injuries.
25:15Due to her being decayed so much, they estimated that she was deceased for at least a month.
25:25Investigators informed Jessica of her mother's death.
25:28My husband and I were on the front porch.
25:33The officer started walking up the steps.
25:37And I said it before she could say anything at all.
25:41No. No. No, no, no.
25:45I said she's dead.
25:51And she was.
25:52They didn't tell me exactly how she died.
25:59They just told me that they found out that Nan was dead.
26:05It felt like I couldn't breathe.
26:08I kind of wished it was wrong.
26:11And that something so heinous could never happen to someone so special to me.
26:16Investigator Secura warned to search the home Cindy shared with Sam and Arnold.
26:26We're able to enter the house and start doing an investigation and collecting evidence and possibly see if the crime happened inside the house.
26:35When I'm walking through the residence, I'm looking for blood stains, places that, you know, she could have been injured, weapons, anything to tie what happened to her in the deep freezer in that house.
26:50We noticed that there was a hole in the wall, which could have been made from physical force or maybe a blunt object.
26:58But there was nothing jumping out at us saying that a crime happened inside the house.
27:06As we made our way out to the garage area, we located the white nylon rope.
27:11That rope seemed similar to the white rope that was used to wrap around the carpet that was surrounding the body in the freezer.
27:20Whoever did this to Cindy has access to the home and the garage area.
27:25We're really confident that Sam and Arnold most likely had some involvement in her death.
27:32Finding Sam and Arnold is very crucial.
27:34Detectives analyzed the latest transactions on Cindy's debit card to try to pinpoint their location.
27:45On August 17th, there was another transaction in Charleston, West Virginia, an ATM withdrawal for $400 cash.
27:53That's quite a large amount.
27:55And it prompts us to wonder, is the money being used to, you know, pay to stay somewhere?
28:00It shifted our focus to at least the Charleston area.
28:04I see Cindy's card was attempted to be used at a motel.
28:10It's a Quality Inn.
28:12My mind goes to, they got to have somewhere to lay their heads.
28:16My adrenaline's pumping because, you know, I want to talk to these guys.
28:19I want to figure out what happened to Cindy.
28:23Detectives head to the Quality Inn motel.
28:26We're from the Canal County Sheriff's Office.
28:27Have you seen these two men?
28:30We showed that clerk some photos and they remember those two guys, Sam and Arnold.
28:36When they check in.
28:38It was confirmed that Samuel May and Arnold Hiller checked in to the motel on August 17th.
28:44It's the day before Cynthia Mudd was reported missing.
28:47And that was the day that Sam had turned his location off with Michelle.
28:52I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that they're hiding.
28:54Are they still staying here?
28:57We learned that Sam and Arnold had checked out of the motel on August 22nd.
29:02And this date was interesting because the media had just released that Cynthia's body had been recovered.
29:11Sam and Arnold probably got the feeling that the cards were getting ready to fall.
29:16The cards were getting ready to fall. They realized they needed to make a move.
29:20It was kind of defeating a little bit, but we had another great piece of evidence.
29:24We had the surveillance footage from the hotel.
29:26Okay, play it from there.
29:35Okay, play it from there.
29:36The lobby camera provided footage that showed Sam and Arnold checking into that motel on August 17th at 4 29 PM.
29:55And it appears that Arnold gives his ID for the room and that Sam pays for the room.
30:02In the lobby, their behavior is somewhat unbelievable because something very bad has happened to Cindy.
30:16And here's the two people closest to her that probably know what's happened.
30:20Yet here they are being seen just kind of casually joking, nonchalant, in a motel lobby.
30:31Can you place the footage from the camera in their hallway?
30:38We got really lucky on that particular camera placement.
30:43We got really good views of Sam and Arnold.
30:45They appear to leave the room August 22nd at 9 33 AM.
30:52Sam exits the room wearing a backpack and shortly after Arnold exits the room.
31:00He also has his backpack with him.
31:03They walk out of the hotel at that point.
31:06Seeing that surveillance footage from the hotel, it's unable to really help us on where they were going.
31:12I don't know what happened to him at this point.
31:16It's very urgent to locate these two now because obviously they know law enforcement is actively looking for them.
31:23What's, you know, going through their heads.
31:24Detective Alford speaking.
31:25So on the morning of August 23rd, I received a phone call that Charleston Police Department has Samuel May.
31:42We learned he had actually jumped in the river on the 22nd.
31:48I don't know if he was just using the river to try to maybe float and travel as far as he could to the next city.
31:55But some people had saw him, called 911, so he was in the hospital overnight.
32:00That moment I got that phone call about Samuel May, like I was, I'm excited.
32:07I want to be in the interview room with him.
32:10Investigators bring Samuel May back to the sheriff's office for questioning.
32:15We're just here to figure out what happened.
32:19You saw the news, you said, so obviously that's what we want to talk to you about.
32:24So just start at the end.
32:28And I'm not one to like.
32:31And Detective Morgan had just come out and, you know, just flat out asked him.
32:36Let's start from top seven.
32:38Did you kill her?
32:39Did you kill her?
32:43Did you kill her?
32:47Thomas.
32:48Sandy?
32:49Yeah.
32:50I did.
32:51When he heard that, we were kind of taken aback from it.
32:53Like, wow, like he's, he's ready to talk.
32:56He's ready to tell us what's, what really happened.
32:58They had gotten drunk and they walked home.
33:14It was late and I went straight to bed.
33:17And when I got up, you know,
33:22Ornum was trying to get me to help her and all that.
33:29And I mean, you could tell there had been some damage.
33:33What kind of damage then?
33:36Uh, some face punches.
33:38Okay.
33:39I mean, I don't, I mean.
33:41Were those punches from you?
33:44When you blocked out, unlikely?
33:46More than likely.
33:47Oh.
33:48He's just like, yeah, I, I blacked out on, I woke up and she was hurt really bad.
33:53It seemed like almost like he didn't really care as much.
33:56Just named?
33:59Yeah, I just, no, I woke up.
34:01I don't even remember getting mad.
34:02That's the problem.
34:04I don't believe you blacked out.
34:06I, I believe you knew what happened.
34:08Yeah, he's admitting a little bit, but he doesn't want to go into all that detail
34:12because he knows what he did was really horrible.
34:16He said that he has assaulted Cindy before.
34:20And he's been involved in a few other domestics.
34:25We asked him why he hadn't called the hospital whenever Cindy was hurt.
34:29It blows my mind that neither one of them called 911.
34:42It didn't matter.
34:44And I knew that she quit breathing on the bed over, over one of the nights.
34:50But we found out that Cindy's death wasn't immediate.
34:53It took a few days.
34:54We checked on her and stuff like that.
34:56Yeah.
34:57You know, I was so freaked out.
35:00I couldn't even, I couldn't even, you know, with a big fear.
35:05He was thinking about himself and not her.
35:09He said that after she had passed away, they decided to take her and roll her up in the carpet, in the deep freezer.
35:16He kind of went about his normal, his normal day.
35:19Sam is charged with the murder of Cindy Mudd, as well as the concealment of her body.
35:27Sam didn't admit to remembering what he did.
35:30So we were hoping to ascertain that information from Arnold.
35:33So we had put out still images, asking for the public's help in locating Arnold.
35:41Approximately two weeks later, Arnold is located in Beckley and arrested.
35:47We charged Arnold with fraudulent use of someone's debit or credit card.
35:52He's placed in a regional jail.
35:55We were able to come to an agreement for an interview with Arnold.
35:59He tells us that Sam basically steps on her head four or five times.
36:06And when I say step, I mean with force.
36:10The deep freezer idea was Sam's idea, and Arnold did assist with disposing of her body.
36:17In January of 2023, Arnold Hiller pleads guilty to concealment and disposal of a body.
36:24The fraud charges against Arnold are dropped as part of his guilty plea.
36:29Arnold was sentenced to one to five years.
36:34In August of 2023, Samuel May pled guilty to second-degree murder.
36:39And he was handed a sentence of 40 years in a penitentiary maximum.
36:44As part of the plea deal, prosecutors dropped all other charges against Sam.
36:52Investigators pieced together the events that led to Cindy's death.
36:55The investigation revealed that Sam had a tendency to be violent.
37:00There was reported incidents involving him and Cynthia.
37:03Michelle and Jessica had both said that he's very abusive towards women.
37:07One night in early July, Sam and Arnold go out to a bar and drink.
37:12When they got back from the bar, Cindy was up in the living room.
37:15According to Sam, he blacked out and doesn't recall exactly what happened.
37:22But I would say he was in a fit of rage.
37:25He hit, most likely kicked Cynthia.
37:30Causing a fractured rib and a fractured sternum.
37:42The following day, he realized that he messed up and he needed help.
37:47And he knew Arnold would help him.
37:49They keep her alive for about three days.
37:51They gave her water, trying to sustain her until she eventually died.
38:01And then the two of them conspired to hide her body by wrapping it in carpet.
38:06And then they put that carpet with Cynthia's body inside of a deep freezer.
38:19And took the freezer out to the backyard where they concealed it with a tarp and stacked other objects up around it.
38:24When Sam and Arnold were using her debit card at the Speedway in mid-July, they were using it after her death.
38:33When they realized that family reported her missing is when they decided to leave the house.
38:41On August 17th, Sam takes off the Life360 tracking app.
38:48And they make it to the Quality Inn.
38:50Well, I think it just shows that both of them are very selfish and, you know, they didn't want to get in trouble for what had happened.
39:03Whereas, you know, if they had called 911 when she was alive, you know, there's a chance that they could have saved Cindy's life.
39:12I don't think there's really a big motive for Sam.
39:14I think he's just such an aggressive, like, just a bad person and thought he could get away with it.
39:22Cindy's kindness was definitely abused by Sam and Arnold.
39:26I don't know.
39:36CCTV was very helpful in this investigation.
39:40Actually critical.
39:42So I'm putting timelines down.
39:44The surveillance footage in this case was a very big part.
39:48I think it would have took a lot longer to resolve if we didn't have the surveillance footage.
39:52It hurts.
39:59And there's always that, well, maybe he thought it had just been forceful and, you know, gone in there and just taken her out that she would finally leave him.
40:12And that just never happened.
40:16There's a lot of guilt involved.
40:20Yeah.
40:22I miss her laugh.
40:24I miss the way that she hugs.
40:27I don't know where the world goes without Nan.
40:29I don't know where it's supposed to go without Nan.
40:39She's my mom.
40:41A person who loved me and taught me lessons and...
40:45helped me when I needed her.
40:51If I could say anything to my mom today.
41:01I would want her to know how much she's loved and missed.
41:03I would want her to know how much she's loved and missed.
41:11Next time on See No Evil.
41:13911 emergency.
41:15This was an intentionally set fire.
41:17My son told me, no, mom, he's been murdered.
41:21What I never could have expected is video of them doing it.
41:25I mean, you can't even hope for something like that.
41:27I don't like that.
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