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00:00Who was walking the Chihuahua?
00:01My daughter.
00:02All of a sudden, we seen a brown pit bull.
00:04Yeah, those are clearly puncture wounds.
00:06The dogs never touched, ever.
00:09He did that.
00:10He did that to his dog.
00:11You want me to believe that this man
00:13put multiple puncture wounds in the dog?
00:16Yes.
00:17She is so delusional.
00:19This is Judy Justice.
00:30Lorenzo Marshall is suing his neighbor,
00:41Deonna Hale, for vet bills and emotional distress.
00:45Court come to order.
00:46All rise.
00:49Be seated, please.
00:50Hello, Judge.
00:51Case 1062, Marshall v. Hale.
00:55Welcome.
00:55Mr. Marshall, it is your claim
00:57that the defendant's dog injured yours
00:59your dog was ultimately euthanized.
01:02Yes.
01:02You want the defendant to be responsible
01:04not only for the vet bill,
01:06but for the emotional trauma
01:08that the attack caused on your child.
01:11Yes.
01:12You two are neighbors.
01:13Yes.
01:14You have a Chihuahua.
01:15Yes.
01:16Had a Chihuahua.
01:17Had.
01:17You have a pit bull.
01:19Yes, ma'am.
01:19How old was your Chihuahua?
01:21Uh, three and a half.
01:22How old is your pit bull?
01:23Eleven.
01:24She'll be twelve on Monday.
01:25And you've had her since puppy?
01:27Since she was born.
01:28We delivered her in our garage.
01:29Is that your only dog?
01:30Yes.
01:31Ever had any issues with her before?
01:32No, we have not.
01:33There was confusion about an issue,
01:35but it was worked out
01:37because there is a dog
01:39that lives on the opposite corner
01:41that looks exactly like ours,
01:42but is a boy and is always free.
01:45And so that dog had an altercation
01:47with a lady and her dog
01:49while my husband and I
01:50were out on our porch.
01:51So when we saw it,
01:52we came out and helped her.
01:54And I walked her home
01:55and then my husband
01:56was, you know,
01:57was kind of standing back
01:58trying to make sure
01:58that that dog was gone.
01:59Just a second.
02:00TMI.
02:01Okay.
02:01Too much information.
02:03This incident happened
02:04how long ago?
02:05I don't actually know.
02:06I just read about what,
02:08because they had a note
02:09in here about something
02:10and it said that there was
02:12another incident with our dog,
02:13but we realized
02:15that what they were talking about
02:16was when they initially
02:17thought it was our dog,
02:18but we reported,
02:19we talked to the officers
02:20and they realized
02:21it was the other dog.
02:21Don't tell me
02:22what they realized.
02:23Don't tell me.
02:24Okay.
02:24If he broaches that subject,
02:26I will address it.
02:27Okay.
02:27Tell me on what date
02:29this incident occurred, sir.
02:31On May 18th of 2021.
02:33What time?
02:34Around 4.30, 5 o'clock.
02:36Who was walking the Chihuahua?
02:38My daughter.
02:39How old is she?
02:39Ten.
02:41Where were you?
02:42Right next to her.
02:43What are her special needs?
02:44She has Down syndrome.
02:46She has a speech impediment
02:47and she has a stent
02:48in her heart, so.
02:50Before this dog,
02:51which was three years old
02:54at the time,
02:54did you have another dog?
02:56I did.
02:57What kind of dog did you have?
02:58That one was a terrier.
03:00What happened to that dog?
03:02Well, due to my wife and I
03:03or addiction in the past,
03:05we lost that dog
03:05when we lost our house
03:06and our daughter,
03:07but when we got our stuff together
03:10five years ago,
03:11we ended up getting my daughter
03:13another dog,
03:14that kitty,
03:15the one that we had to put down.
03:18Was your daughter living
03:19with relatives
03:19or in foster care?
03:21My daughter,
03:22she was in foster care, yes.
03:23For how long?
03:24About a year,
03:25year and a couple months.
03:26Glad to see you got it together.
03:28Oh, yeah, thank you.
03:29I'm happy.
03:29Yeah.
03:30Okay.
03:30Tell me what happened
03:31on May 18th.
03:33Like always,
03:34my daughter and I,
03:35we walk her dog
03:36every afternoon
03:36and she was walking
03:38the dog down the street
03:39and then all of a sudden
03:40we seen a brown pit bull
03:42come from the defendant's backyard
03:43and there's no fence,
03:45so the dog just came charging out.
03:47My first instinct
03:48was to grab my daughter,
03:49so I grabbed my daughter
03:50and turned her around
03:50and put her behind me
03:51and I grabbed the dog's leash
03:53and kitty's in a harness
03:55and I pulled kitty up real hard
03:57so the dog doesn't get her,
03:58but kitty flew out of her harness
03:59and the dog came
04:01and grabbed her
04:02and pinned her down on the ground.
04:04So she came running out,
04:05the defendant came running out
04:06with a chain
04:07and hit the dog
04:08and grabbed the dog
04:08and took it off.
04:09I grabbed my dog
04:10and my daughter
04:11and I left.
04:11So, Miss Hale came out
04:14with what kind of a chain?
04:16I'm guessing it's the dog's leash
04:18because the...
04:19Was it a metal chain?
04:21Yes.
04:21Had you known Miss Hale
04:22prior to May 18th?
04:24No.
04:24You'd never seen her before?
04:26I mean, I've seen them
04:26because we walked past their house
04:28to walk the dog,
04:28but other than that, no.
04:29Haven't had any conversation with her?
04:31No.
04:32Okay.
04:33And after she came out
04:34and got her dog
04:36out of the situation,
04:38did she actually hit the dog
04:39with the chain?
04:40Yes.
04:41How many times?
04:42Just once.
04:43And then what did the dog do?
04:44And then the dog let go
04:47and then she grabbed the dog
04:48and then I grabbed my dog
04:49and then I grabbed my daughter
04:51and I left.
04:51Okay, so you carried your dog.
04:53Yes.
04:53And how did she grab hold
04:55of her dog?
04:58She just really jumped on her.
04:59Miss Hale, Miss Hale,
05:00there's only one attitude here.
05:02That would be mine.
05:04Do you understand?
05:05I do.
05:05It's all good.
05:07She just basically jumped
05:08on the dog
05:09after, you know what I mean?
05:10Just a quick reaction.
05:11When did you next see her?
05:14I want to say
05:15maybe the third
05:16or fourth time we came
05:17to try to give them
05:18the vet bill.
05:19And then that's when
05:21she told me
05:22that her husband wasn't home
05:24and that, you know,
05:25she couldn't deal
05:26with nothing right now
05:27and that to leave the mail
05:28or the vet bill
05:29in the mailbox.
05:30When you say it was
05:31the second or third time,
05:33when was the first time?
05:34The first time
05:35was the day
05:36that I took my dog
05:37to the vet
05:37on the 19th.
05:38So you took your dog
05:39the next day?
05:40Yeah.
05:41Because the first night
05:42or the night it happened,
05:43the day it happened
05:43on the 18th,
05:44we went to the emergency room.
05:46But the vet wasn't there.
05:47You mean,
05:48because it was after
05:49five o'clock?
05:50Yeah.
05:51So you went
05:51to an emergency vet?
05:52Yes.
05:53What happened there?
05:54And the lady,
05:55the nurse there,
05:56said that the vet
05:56wouldn't be in
05:57for a couple of hours.
05:58So you went home?
05:59Yes.
05:59And what did you do
06:00with the dog?
06:01I did what she told me
06:02to do, basically
06:03keep it wrapped up.
06:04And I let Kitty sit down
06:06and she said,
06:07just let her get comfortable.
06:08So I let her get comfortable.
06:09Was she bleeding
06:10from any place?
06:12Not at the time, no.
06:13And you didn't see
06:14any puncture wounds?
06:15Oh, yeah.
06:16There was puncture wounds.
06:17I have pictures of it, too.
06:18I'd like to see the pictures.
06:19Then may I see them also?
06:21Of course.
06:22First me.
06:23Of course.
06:24There's my dog.
06:36Yeah, those are clearly
06:37puncture wounds.
06:39Would you show these,
06:39Kevin, to the defendant?
06:44This isn't...
06:45There's no wound on...
06:47No, it was stuck to the paper.
06:48Okay.
06:54Got it?
06:55Yes, ma'am.
06:56Okay.
06:57I'll take that back now, Kevin.
07:06I only see two puncture wounds.
07:08I don't see any more.
07:10Is that what you saw,
07:11two puncture wounds?
07:11Well, that's all...
07:12No, the other two,
07:14I guess, were deep inside.
07:15We couldn't get the picture of it.
07:16No, but I see two.
07:18But, yeah.
07:18Is that what you're
07:19showing me here?
07:20Yes.
07:20Okay.
07:21Now, you took the dog
07:22to the vet
07:23and surgery was suggested?
07:26Yes.
07:26How much did they want
07:27for the surgery?
07:28It was between $3,000
07:29and $5,000,
07:30but they couldn't tell
07:31until they did the x-rays.
07:33So I had to put up
07:34$1,000 just to put her
07:36on the machine
07:36until I can get enough money
07:38to have them go through
07:40with the process.
07:41And so what was this
07:42$845 for?
07:44To euthanize.
07:45Do you have that bill?
07:51This goes with it.
07:52Because they had messed up
07:54when they did the total.
07:55They didn't charge something,
07:56but then they put the total
07:57into that.
08:00So what you actually paid
08:02to the vet was $854?
08:05Yes, ma'am.
08:05Okay, Ms. Hale.
08:06Clearly, your dog
08:08was off-leash.
08:09Yes and no.
08:10Clearly.
08:10No, ma'am.
08:11She actually had her leash on,
08:12but it's a long chain,
08:14as he said.
08:15It is a chain.
08:16And I didn't have
08:18full control of it.
08:19Actually, Ms. Hale,
08:22your dog was off-leash.
08:24Okay.
08:25If you don't have control of it,
08:27then the dog is off-leash.
08:28Okay.
08:29Because if the dog
08:30was on the leash,
08:30you wouldn't have had
08:31any contact.
08:32Put your hand down.
08:33Because if you had control
08:35over the dog...
08:36No, I understand what you're saying.
08:36...then it wouldn't have
08:38punctured this dog.
08:39Ma'am, that did not happen.
08:41I...
08:41Can I...
08:42Can I please...
08:42Can I please just tell you?
08:44You can.
08:45We're going back to May 18th,
08:482021, at 4.30.
08:51Where exactly were you?
08:53I was in the backyard
08:54with my dog.
08:56Okay.
08:56You were in the backyard.
08:58Mm-hmm.
08:58Who else was there?
08:59It was just me and my dog
09:01in the backyard.
09:01Okay.
09:02And where was your husband?
09:04Inside.
09:04And he was...
09:05He just got out of the shower.
09:06So he was inside the house?
09:08Yes, ma'am.
09:08So he was inside the house
09:10and not there.
09:11Now, is your bathroom
09:13where the shower is
09:15in front of the house
09:16or in the back of the house?
09:18No, he said he was drying off.
09:19He was in the...
09:20Just a second.
09:21The bathroom is in the room.
09:22Where...
09:22The bathroom is in the bedroom.
09:24I'm answering your question.
09:24I'm asking you
09:26whether the shower in your house
09:28is towards the front of the house
09:30or the back of the house.
09:32That's a simple question.
09:32The back of the house.
09:33In the...
09:33In the back of the house.
09:35Next to the driveway
09:35where I can give you the picture
09:37if you would like to see
09:38exactly where I can show you.
09:40Mm-hmm.
09:41I just...
09:41I asked you a simple question.
09:43Is the bathroom
09:44in the back of the house?
09:47Yes, ma'am.
09:47Or the...
09:47So it's in the back of the house?
09:49Yes.
09:50Because he was moving
09:51his head up and down
09:52as if he actually witnessed this thing,
09:53which he did not.
09:54No, he did, ma'am.
09:55Which he...
09:55Oh, impossible.
09:57It's not impossible
09:58because he was getting
09:59out of the shower.
10:00He heard his dog
10:01like he normally does.
10:02He heard me say,
10:03Layla, sit.
10:04So he looks out of the window.
10:06The window is right there.
10:07He couldn't come out
10:08because he was naked.
10:09So he's looking out of the window
10:11and I'll let you...
10:12I'll let him tell you
10:13what he saw.
10:14Yeah, you can let him
10:15tell me what you saw.
10:16Your dog was out.
10:17I didn't see him.
10:17Your dog was,
10:19for whatever reason,
10:21not under your control.
10:23Yes, ma'am.
10:24And then what happened?
10:25And then what happened?
10:26Okay, so his dog
10:27comes walking up the street.
10:29His dog...
10:30How do you know that
10:31if you were in the backyard?
10:32Okay, his dog...
10:33No, no, no, just...
10:34Imagine an angry
10:36Fran Drescher
10:37as a chihuahua.
10:38No, no, just...
10:38It screams,
10:39like literally...
10:40I don't know how to do it.
10:42It's embarrassing.
10:43Just a second.
10:44I'm asking you,
10:45you said to me,
10:45I'm in the backyard
10:47with my dog.
10:49I'm answering your question.
10:50And I said...
10:51And you said,
10:52he comes walking
10:53down the street
10:53and I just want to know
10:54how you see that.
10:57And that's what I'm
10:57trying to explain to you.
10:58Well, then, tell me.
11:00We don't see them.
11:01So you don't...
11:02You hear them.
11:03You hear them.
11:04So you hear?
11:05Because the dog
11:06that he's speaking of,
11:08from...
11:09If it sees anything,
11:10whether it's a cat,
11:11a bird, anything,
11:12it's scream barks.
11:14I'm talking...
11:15Like a loud troll
11:17all the way down the street.
11:18Everyone in the neighborhood
11:19sees it,
11:20knows it, everything.
11:20You don't worry about...
11:22Listen to me.
11:23Don't tell me
11:24what anyone sees.
11:25Okay.
11:26Don't tell me
11:26what anyone knows.
11:27What I see.
11:28You heard...
11:29What I see and I hear.
11:30You heard his dog.
11:32Barking as he was
11:33walking it down the street.
11:35Past my house.
11:36Okay.
11:37He comes to my...
11:39Okay, now we're in my...
11:40We're in my backyard.
11:42I don't...
11:42Well, you can't say it.
11:42Who's we?
11:43You and the dog?
11:43Me and the dog.
11:44Me and Layla
11:45are in our backyard.
11:46Layla is my dog.
11:47Yes, I know.
11:47We're in our backyard.
11:49I'm picking up
11:51her food stuff
11:51because I just...
11:52You know,
11:52we went for the walk.
11:53I have her food trays out
11:55and so I was going to
11:55bring it in the house.
11:56I had her here
11:58right next to me.
11:59His dog,
11:59he's standing at the end
12:00of my driveway.
12:01His dog is on one
12:02of those retractable leashes
12:03but is in my driveway
12:05underneath the bushes
12:07and I can show you
12:08exactly where it is,
12:09how everything positions out
12:10and it's...
12:11But it's screaming,
12:12barking at my dog.
12:13So my dog,
12:14of course,
12:15goes in that direction.
12:17I see what's happening
12:18from the second.
12:20Just a second.
12:20So your dog
12:22sees his dog
12:23and go...
12:25Or hears his dog
12:25and goes in that direction.
12:27Yes.
12:28At that point,
12:29the dog is off leash.
12:33He says no.
12:35You say yes.
12:36Who should I believe?
12:37He's shaking his head
12:38this way
12:39and you're saying yes.
12:41Now,
12:41you're both seeing
12:42the same thing.
12:43I'm agreeing with you
12:44as the point of you saying
12:46I did not have control.
12:47She did have her leash
12:49on her.
12:49I don't care
12:49whether she had her leash
12:50on.
12:51You're just trying
12:52to explain to me,
12:53madam.
12:54No,
12:54I'm trying to be accurate.
12:54You're trying to explain
12:56to me that his dog
12:56was on a retractable leash
12:58and therefore
12:58really not in control
13:00because...
13:01And that is accurate.
13:02The dog...
13:02Just a second.
13:03Because the dog,
13:04you say,
13:05is now on your driveway.
13:07That is correct.
13:08And I'm saying
13:09you didn't have
13:11your dog on leash...
13:12In my driveway.
13:14Correct.
13:14And he's saying...
13:15I know.
13:16She was on her leash.
13:17I did not have
13:18full control,
13:19but he was on her...
13:20That's not a question
13:20of full control.
13:22You can have a leash
13:23on a dog
13:24and a collar
13:25on a dog
13:25and the dog
13:26can be in pyramus
13:28while you're in T-neck.
13:29That doesn't mean...
13:30That doesn't mean
13:31you're in control
13:32of your dog.
13:32Which is why I was
13:32agreeing with you.
13:33Yeah, but he wasn't.
13:34He wasn't.
13:35He was saying
13:35just the opposite of you.
13:37I didn't say anything.
13:38I can't talk.
13:39Oh, yeah.
13:39I would say
13:40that you should
13:40put your phone away
13:41and listen
13:42with your two ears.
13:42When Layla heard
13:45Kitty's tags jingling...
13:48No, ma'am.
13:48Layla ran off
13:49and Deonna
13:50immediately chased after her.
13:52This is what the officer says
13:54you said.
13:55Lorenzo Marshall
14:07claims his neighbor
14:08Deonna Hale
14:09owes for vet bills
14:11after his dog
14:12was attacked
14:12by Deonna's pit bull.
14:14Okay.
14:15Would you like me to finish?
14:16I would.
14:16Okay.
14:17So, my car is here.
14:20Layla is here.
14:21His dog is here
14:22in line sight with us.
14:24He's standing back here.
14:25I run behind Layla
14:27to grab her
14:28so I was able
14:29to catch her
14:30before the dog...
14:31The dogs never touched.
14:32Ever.
14:33Not one point in time
14:34did the dogs ever touch.
14:36When he sees Layla,
14:37he yanks his dog back,
14:39which is a normal reaction.
14:40He yanks his dog back,
14:41but he's swinging
14:42his dog around
14:43in a circle.
14:44The dog makes
14:44at least two full circles.
14:46By that time,
14:47I'm sitting on top
14:48of my dog
14:49because I had her chain
14:50right here.
14:50So, I'm sitting on top
14:51of her and I'm holding her.
14:52He lets go of his...
14:54The dog's leash.
14:54She goes flying
14:55further into my driveway
14:57past me,
14:58like right under
14:59my bedroom window
15:00where he's looking
15:01out of the window.
15:02It flies under the window
15:03and I'm sitting there
15:04and then the dog
15:05is still...
15:05It's now in my driveway.
15:08Still barking
15:08but didn't want
15:09to run past.
15:10Finally, the dog
15:11runs past me
15:11because I'm sitting.
15:12I was like,
15:13can you get your dog?
15:14And his dog
15:15runs to the sidewalk.
15:16He walks over,
15:18picks up his dog
15:19and then they walk home.
15:20I come inside the house
15:22and my husband,
15:23he's standing there
15:24with his towel.
15:25He said,
15:26that dog came by again?
15:27I said, yeah.
15:28He knew nothing.
15:29Well, I'll let him
15:30explain what he saw.
15:31I said, I'm worried
15:31about his daughter.
15:32I want to make sure
15:33she wasn't scared, you know.
15:34And I asked him
15:35because he's a psychiatric
15:36counselor on the child unit.
15:37I said, do you think
15:38I should go check on her?
15:39He said, absolutely.
15:41So, I go down
15:42to his house.
15:43I asked the neighbor.
15:44I said, hey,
15:45you know the people
15:45upstairs that have
15:46the screaming dog?
15:49And she's like, yeah,
15:49I know where they live.
15:50And I said, you know,
15:51I don't want to go up there.
15:52Would you mind
15:52getting them for me?
15:53She goes up,
15:54she gets them.
15:55He comes downstairs
15:56with his daughter
15:57and the dog.
15:58I look at his daughter.
15:59I said, hey, baby girl,
16:01how you doing?
16:01She goes, good.
16:02She comes over
16:03and gives me a hug.
16:04Then I look over at him.
16:05He won't make eye contact
16:07with me,
16:07but he's holding the dog,
16:08but he has a blanket
16:09kind of under it.
16:10And so, I thought
16:11that was weird
16:12because I'm like,
16:12because I knew
16:13the dogs never touched.
16:14Not at one point in time
16:15did the dogs
16:16ever make contact.
16:18And I'm like,
16:19that's weird.
16:20Like, why are you,
16:21what's that?
16:22So, I played it off.
16:23I walk over to him
16:24and the dog.
16:25I put my hand on the dog.
16:26So, I was like,
16:26hey, pup,
16:27you didn't mean to scare you.
16:28And so,
16:28and the dog licks my finger
16:30and is fine.
16:31Like, I literally
16:32touched the dog.
16:33There was not,
16:34of course,
16:34not a scratch,
16:35no blood,
16:36no nothing
16:36because the dogs
16:37never touched,
16:39ever,
16:39not one point in time.
16:41I swear on everything.
16:42Now, we're going
16:43to get back
16:43to the other incident
16:44that you were talking about.
16:45When did that
16:46allegedly occur?
16:47Um,
16:48I think they said
16:49it was like back
16:50to when we moved in.
16:52I'm trying to,
16:52I don't remember the date
16:53because it didn't really
16:54involve us.
16:54The first time we were
16:55seeing it was here.
16:56Just give me
16:57the month and year.
16:59I don't have
17:00the month and year, ma'am.
17:01Okay.
17:01Mr. Marshall?
17:02Yes.
17:03You have any report
17:04of any prior incident
17:05with this dog?
17:06Yes, I do.
17:08I'd like to see it, please.
17:09And ma'am,
17:10may I tell you
17:11the same officer
17:11that did that report
17:12is the same one
17:13that came to our house?
17:14No, I just want to,
17:15I just want to see it.
17:16Mm-hmm.
17:20And your honor,
17:20may I say something
17:21about what she said
17:22about my daughter
17:22saying she was fine?
17:24No, I understand.
17:26Okay.
17:26She's saying good.
17:27I understand,
17:27I understand
17:28what you're saying
17:30to me, sir.
17:31You described
17:32the nature of her
17:33frailty,
17:34so I do understand.
17:36Ms. Hale.
17:38Yes, ma'am.
17:39Just so that you know
17:40that the veterinary
17:42emergency report
17:44on the dog
17:45indicate,
17:47and I'm quoting,
17:48multiple puncture wounds
17:49to the lateral
17:50abdominal wall,
17:52penetrated
17:52abdominal wall wound
17:54present.
17:56Okay.
17:56Do you understand?
17:57I do.
17:57Okay.
17:58May I respond?
17:59Only with something
18:00intelligent.
18:01Okay.
18:02You know,
18:02only with something
18:03I would like to respond.
18:05Sure.
18:05You're reading me
18:06a vet bill
18:07that says that
18:07his dog had injuries,
18:09correct?
18:10Multiple puncture wounds
18:12to the lateral
18:13abdominal wall
18:14penetrating
18:16the abdominal wound
18:18present.
18:19Okay,
18:19so I have a question.
18:20I don't have an answer.
18:21I don't have a question.
18:23There were no...
18:23I don't...
18:24When I saw the dog,
18:26that right after
18:27when I went to their house,
18:29there were no wounds
18:31at all.
18:32And not only that,
18:33when he went to the vet,
18:35he's saying that
18:36there were...
18:37Now all of a sudden
18:38there were puncture wounds.
18:39No, no, no.
18:39No, no, no, no, no.
18:40He's not saying anything.
18:42He gave me a report.
18:44Right.
18:44He gave me...
18:45What I'm saying is,
18:45first of all,
18:46our dogs never touched.
18:47Okay.
18:47Second...
18:47I understand what you're saying.
18:49If there were injuries
18:49to that dog,
18:50he did that.
18:51He did that to his dog.
18:52Me and my daughter?
18:53Just a second.
18:53Absolutely.
18:54No, not your daughter.
18:55I believe you did it.
18:56I believe you did it
18:57because there were no wounds
18:58to that dog
18:59and you know it.
19:00Right.
19:01You know it.
19:02I hurt my own dog.
19:03They never...
19:03Yes, you absolutely did.
19:06Mr. Marshall.
19:07I'm sorry, Your Honor.
19:08I got it.
19:09No, and he's begging off
19:11of the prejudices of Pitbull.
19:12My dog is a 12-year-old
19:13arthritic dog
19:14with joint...
19:15hip dysplasia
19:16and joint problems.
19:16I have videos of her
19:17trying to walk.
19:18She can't even run
19:19like the way he's saying she did.
19:21I can show you.
19:22But she ran out
19:23and bit my dog.
19:24But she didn't.
19:25She's not going to take down
19:26what you're saying.
19:27That's fine,
19:29but as long as you know
19:29what the truth is,
19:30whatever the outcome is,
19:31I'm here to tell you the truth.
19:32Ms. Hale,
19:34I have to tell you
19:35that it's very, very hard
19:38for me to imagine
19:40that the parent of any child,
19:43no less a Downs child
19:45who is an affectionate child,
19:47that's...
19:47Which is why
19:48he's begging on that.
19:49Don't!
19:49Hey, accidents happen.
19:53It didn't happen, ma'am.
19:54Well, you want me...
19:56Just a second.
19:56It did not happen.
19:57Just a second.
19:58And what you want me to believe
19:59is that this man
20:00took his dog home
20:02and took something
20:03like an ice pick.
20:04Yes, ma'am.
20:05And sent...
20:06I don't know what he used.
20:06I don't know what he did.
20:07There absolutely were
20:08no injuries to the dog.
20:10Ms. Hale, you acknowledge
20:11that you had no control
20:13of your dog,
20:13and your dog went running
20:14down the driveway,
20:16walking down the driveway,
20:18sprinting down the driveway,
20:19crawling down the driveway,
20:20but at some point,
20:22you didn't have control
20:23of the dog.
20:24Yes, ma'am.
20:24Okay.
20:26It's correct that you were
20:27advised of your right
20:28to an administrative hearing
20:29if you did not consent
20:30to three years probation
20:31for your dog?
20:32No.
20:33And that both you
20:34and your husband
20:34did not want a hearing
20:35and agreed to the probation period.
20:37Is that correct?
20:38No, ma'am.
20:38That is not correct.
20:39In fact, actually,
20:40this is the first time
20:41we saw that,
20:42and so I actually
20:43called the officer
20:44and spoke with him
20:44today and I have
20:46a text message
20:47from him with that,
20:49well, not from him,
20:49but from me to him
20:50about that.
20:51I don't care.
20:52Okay.
20:52I don't do text messages,
20:54madam.
20:54Would you like the officer's
20:55phone number?
20:56Absolutely not.
20:57Okay.
20:58That's your witness.
20:58You bring him.
20:59Okay.
21:00Page three.
21:01Mm-hmm.
21:01I advised Donna and Dewey,
21:03that would be the two of you,
21:04that they would need
21:05to display the potentially
21:06dangerous dog sign
21:08that was provided
21:09by the shelter
21:09and by Layla's
21:11dangerous dog license.
21:12I advised on three years probation.
21:15I provided Donna
21:17with my card and case number
21:18and with definitions
21:21pertaining to the above laws.
21:22I then cleared the scene.
21:24Then on June the 2nd,
21:26he next says,
21:28I spoke to the animal owner,
21:29Diona Hale,
21:30via phone,
21:31who stated that
21:32she will be in this week
21:33to sign the contracts
21:35to obtain
21:36potentially dangerous sign
21:38and license for Layla.
21:40Hale has already been cited
21:41for the above violation.
21:43Okay.
21:44So this is what the officer
21:46wrote in his report.
21:48First, they talk about
21:49a prior incident,
21:50which I assume
21:51is the incident you're
21:52going to tell me
21:52with some other dog.
21:54I must tell you
21:55that when they spoke
21:57to your husband
21:58the first time
21:59about this incident,
22:01he says
22:02he was complaining
22:03that these small dogs
22:05are always
22:07defecating on his property.
22:09Yes, we've had arguments
22:10with the neighbors about it.
22:11Just a second.
22:12I'm just reading you
22:13what he said
22:14with regard
22:15to the prior incident.
22:17Mm-hmm.
22:17He said he interviewed you
22:19and on the day
22:20of the incident,
22:21Diona had just...
22:22This is what...
22:23We never interviewed
22:24about the prior incident.
22:25Just a second.
22:26On the day of the incident,
22:27May 18th.
22:29Okay, May 18th.
22:29Pay attention.
22:31Diona had just got back
22:33from walking Layla.
22:34Diona took off Layla's chain
22:36near the back porch
22:38of the residence.
22:39Diona walked me
22:39up her driveway
22:40and to the area
22:41where the incident started
22:43and she removed Layla's chain.
22:45When Layla heard
22:47the little dog's
22:49kitty's tags jingling...
22:51No, May...
22:51I'm reading you
22:52what the officer wrote.
22:54Layla ran off
22:55and Diona immediately
22:57chased after her.
22:58This is what the officer says.
23:00You said...
23:03He has proof showing
23:04that he took his dog
23:05to a vet days later.
23:07So he's saying
23:07that he went to a vet
23:08and they told him
23:09to go home with wounds?
23:10What you want me to believe
23:12is that this man
23:13took a...
23:14There's no attitude here
23:15but mine.
23:15Mm-hmm.
23:16Lorenzo Marshall
23:28says his neighbor
23:30Diona Hale
23:31is responsible
23:32for vet bills
23:33after her pit bull
23:34attacked his dog.
23:35Okay.
23:36Diona walked me
23:37to the area
23:38where the interaction occurred.
23:40Diona stood
23:40on the public sidewalk
23:42and stated
23:43that the man, Marshall,
23:45was swinging
23:46the little dog kitty
23:47around on her leash.
23:48Mm-hmm.
23:49Diona...
23:49That is correct.
23:51Diona quickly
23:52hit Layla
23:53with the chain.
23:54Diona jumped on Layla
23:55to gain control of her.
23:57Diona told the man
23:58to get his dog.
24:00Diona stated that
24:01that he saw the man
24:03had a small
24:04special needs child
24:05with him.
24:06Diona was concerned
24:07for the child
24:08and walked to
24:09North
24:10to make sure
24:11the child was okay.
24:13Diona stated
24:14she was met
24:15with a small dog
24:16owner, Marshall,
24:17who had the dog
24:17in a blanket
24:18and was holding it.
24:19The male stated
24:20he was taking the dog
24:21to the vet.
24:22Diona stated
24:23that she pet the dog
24:24and did not see
24:25or feel any injury
24:27on the small dog.
24:28She stated
24:28she saw no blood
24:30on the dog.
24:30Diona stated
24:31she saw the whole thing
24:32and Layla did not
24:34hurt the small dog.
24:35That was page four.
24:36He's elaborating
24:37and he is not using
24:38my specific words.
24:40Okay.
24:40If you want to use
24:41my specific words,
24:42I can show you
24:44the picture
24:44of what he's talking
24:45about on the driveway.
24:46Did you, did you, did you?
24:48You were lying on words
24:48of people who weren't there.
24:49I'm speaking.
24:50Did you go and pick up
24:51the sign as you
24:52were directed to do?
24:54That's a yes or a no.
24:57That's a yes or a no.
24:58No, ma'am.
24:59Okay.
25:00Did you get your dog
25:01licensed in Stockton?
25:03Yes, ma'am.
25:04When?
25:05On July 7th.
25:07And that's when I was advised.
25:09Just a second.
25:107-7.
25:11I was, can I tell you,
25:12I was advised.
25:13You can't tell me
25:14what you were advised.
25:15You can show me a document
25:16if you like
25:17that says something.
25:18Can I show you?
25:19I'll take a look at the document,
25:20any document you have.
25:22So this is the license.
25:24Don't, just hand him
25:25the document.
25:26And that's that.
25:33Well, this would be
25:34a reminder notice.
25:36Violation date is 526.
25:38Mount due $4,790.
25:41What is $4,000 for?
25:43Because the way
25:44it was explained to me
25:45by the officer.
25:46No, no, no, no, no.
25:47Did this have to do
25:47with the dog?
25:48Yes.
25:49Did you pay the money?
25:51No.
25:51Just a second.
25:52Because if you look
25:52at the paper,
25:53it tells you why.
25:54I was told by the officer
25:55that we can go contest it
25:57because we disagree
25:58with the entire process.
25:59Just a second.
25:59They told us
25:59if we got the letter
26:01that we were asking about,
26:02if we accepted that letter
26:04and we signed those contracts,
26:05it's saying that
26:06we agreed to the terms.
26:07We do not agree
26:08to the terms
26:09because our dog's
26:10never touched.
26:11I'm just telling you
26:12what this says.
26:13I understand what it says.
26:14This says amount due.
26:15And it says that
26:16we have to contest it
26:17on February 10th.
26:19When are you going
26:20to contest this?
26:20On February 10th.
26:23I think it's on the top
26:24of that form.
26:25Of 2022.
26:26Yes, ma'am.
26:27And what's the nature
26:28of the violation?
26:29No, no, no, no, no.
26:30This incident.
26:30No, no, no.
26:31The nature of the violation
26:32has to be
26:34you agree to probation
26:36and you agree
26:36to put signs up
26:37on your lawn.
26:38But we do not.
26:40We do not agree
26:41to probation.
26:41We do not agree
26:42to put up signs.
26:43My dog is not violent.
26:44The incident that he is saying
26:45did not happen.
26:47Okay.
26:47So I'm not going
26:48to sit here and say
26:49I'm going to pay $4,000
26:50to a city
26:51because somebody else
26:53is making up a lie.
26:54Just, just,
26:54you stay,
26:56stay with that story.
26:57Somebody may believe you.
26:58I'm staying with the truth.
26:59Somebody may believe you.
27:01I do not.
27:02And why do you?
27:03Why do you not believe me
27:04when I have proof
27:05here showing you?
27:06Just a second.
27:07He has proof showing
27:08that he took his dog
27:09to a vet after the fact
27:10days later.
27:11So he's saying
27:12that he went to a vet
27:13and they told him
27:13to go home with wounds?
27:15No.
27:15They told him
27:16to go home with wounds?
27:17The dog.
27:18He took his dog home.
27:18I heard,
27:19I heard you already.
27:20What you want me
27:21to believe, madam,
27:22is that this man
27:23took a,
27:24there's no,
27:25there's no attitude
27:26here but mine.
27:27Mm-hmm.
27:28There's still
27:29no attitude here but mine.
27:30You want me to believe
27:31that this man
27:32took his dog
27:33after this incident
27:34that this man decided,
27:36you're an idiot,
27:37that this man decided,
27:38Excuse me?
27:39that this man decided
27:40to take an ice pick
27:41to his dog
27:42and put multiple
27:44puncture wounds
27:45in the dog.
27:46Yes.
27:46And that's what you want
27:47me to believe.
27:47You're an idiot.
27:48At first,
27:49at first actually,
27:50at first actually,
27:51Mr. Marshall,
27:52I was going to award you
27:53the vet fees.
27:54She is so delusional
27:56and she's got a co-conspirator
27:57with her delusions.
27:59I'm actually embarrassed
28:00for you.
28:02I'm actually embarrassed
28:02for you.
28:03Judgment for the plaintiff
28:04and the amount of $4,000.
28:05We're done.
28:06Court is adjourned.
28:08He flat out lied.
28:10It's a shame
28:10that people can't be honest.
28:12Our dog's never,
28:13ever touched
28:14at any point in time.
28:15You know,
28:16if you have a dog
28:16that does something wrong,
28:17you should be man enough
28:18or woman enough
28:19to admit it
28:20and take responsibility
28:21for yourself.
28:21I believe that he injured
28:22his own dog.
28:23That's really insulting,
28:24you know,
28:25that I would actually harm
28:26my daughter's dog.
28:27He walks by our house
28:28every single day
28:29to this day.
28:29People are like that nowadays
28:31and they know they're wrong.
28:32They're going to try
28:32and do everything they can
28:33to avoid paying anything.
28:36I think what to me
28:37was most outrageous
28:38was even the suggestion
28:40that that man
28:41would purposely
28:42injure that dog.
28:44In order to get money
28:46from these people
28:47when he clearly
28:48didn't want money
28:49from them,
28:50he originally just said,
28:52please just pay my vet bill.
28:53So I would have to think
28:54that he was really
28:55a pretty deranged guy
28:57to do that.
28:58On the flip side of that,
28:59you have this woman
29:00who really didn't see
29:02what happened
29:02at the beginning
29:03because she was running
29:04and chasing after her dog
29:05because her dog
29:06was clearly barking
29:07on the way.
29:08She said nothing
29:09to the police officer
29:10who came and spoke to her
29:11about the dog
29:12yap, yap, yap, yap,
29:13yapping and being
29:14up her driveway.
29:15As a matter of fact,
29:16she took the officer
29:17to the place
29:18on the public sidewalk
29:19where the incident
29:20took place,
29:21which means that
29:22her dog was out
29:23of her control
29:24on the public sidewalk,
29:25not on the driveway.
29:26It so defies credulity
29:29that that kind of behavior,
29:32which was really an accident,
29:35but animals are animals.
29:36And that's why
29:37they're supposed to be
29:37under your control
29:38at all times.
29:39And what you're supposed
29:39to do is,
29:40if it happens,
29:41accept responsibility
29:42for it.
29:43Take accountability.
29:44Take accountability.
29:45And neither she
29:47nor her husband,
29:48who appear to be
29:48very intelligent people,
29:50intelligent doesn't
29:52necessarily make you smart.
29:54Very true.
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