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00:00You vandalized her house.
00:02It wasn't me.
00:03In the first video, you can actually see him kick the door.
00:06It's not me, Your Honor.
00:08You stated that you were in Chicago.
00:10Yep.
00:11Doing what?
00:12Um, probably anything other than that.
00:18I believe that you did it.
00:20You the judge.
00:21I am.
00:22This is Judy Justice.
00:30Previously on Judy Justice.
00:44What I'm saying is in order to park in one of the spots that's designated for a resident,
00:49you needed a sticker.
00:50She didn't tell me that.
00:51She didn't relate that to me.
00:52Listen, I let you talk.
00:53Right now, you have to understand, I don't believe you.
00:56Again, that has nothing to do with a slot.
00:58Yes.
00:59Now, we're going to get to your counterclaim.
01:00You have a counterclaim.
01:01It is your claim that the plaintiff burglarized your home.
01:05Yes.
01:06Did you see him there?
01:07I did not, but I have video footage.
01:08I'd like to see it.
01:10And now, the conclusion.
01:12Quincy Chagog has accused his former friend with benefits, Regina Monaghan, of driving his
01:19truck without a license and totaling it.
01:22Regina claims he vandalized her house in retaliation.
01:25Now, did you come to her house July 17th?
01:28No, I did not.
01:29Where were you on July 17th?
01:31In Chicago.
01:32Did you see him there?
01:33I did not, but I have video footage.
01:35I'd like to see it.
01:36Video?
01:37Sarah, you're going to have to help me look at the stone.
01:40Because I could never see these things on these things.
01:44Oh, I touched something.
01:46I got it.
01:47Yeah, thank you.
01:48It says video one.
01:50I also have still frames of the same video.
01:59You want me to pause it at that point?
02:01Yeah, I would like to see your face.
02:04See if you could find a face for me.
02:07Here are still frames of the video that I took.
02:10Here's just frame by frame.
02:12Could you turn your head around a little bit?
02:17Which way?
02:18So I can see the back of your hair.
02:24I'd like to see those, Kevin.
02:26There's two videos, Your Honor, so a second incident.
02:38I'm not sure if you want to hear about it first.
02:40Okay.
02:41So he came, according to you, alone on this video.
02:44Mm-hmm.
02:45Where did these pictures come from?
02:47I got them from when I filed a police report.
02:49I was released the actual disc to the Minneapolis Public Housing.
02:53So I took still frames off of it and printed them.
02:56I had them printed out.
02:57Can I see the second video, Sarah?
03:10Spray painting.
03:11Uh-huh.
03:12The second video is only him breaking the back window and tagging my house.
03:25And spray painting it.
03:26Yeah, and tagging my house.
03:27There's something breaking a window, it looks like.
03:33That's not me, Your Honor.
03:35Don't speak.
03:37Now, on July 17th, you stated that you were in Chicago.
03:41Prove it.
03:42What do you mean, prove it?
03:44Prove it.
03:45Just what I said to you.
03:46Prove it.
03:47You know what she's accusing you of.
03:48She's accusing you of vandalizing her house on July 17th and again on August 19th.
03:54Well, I was doing a Windy City smoke-out in Chicago around the same time I did.
03:58I worked two weeks.
03:59Okay.
04:00In what event?
04:01Sarah's gonna look them up.
04:02Chicago Windy City smoke-out.
04:04July 17th, 2021.
04:07It was July 9th until July 11th, 2021.
04:10Yeah, we set up and tear down.
04:12That's all right.
04:13July 9th to July 11th.
04:14We're talking about July 17th.
04:15That's the event.
04:16That's the event.
04:17We have to tear down.
04:18I understand that.
04:19Okay.
04:20So that took a long time.
04:22So, so far we have July 9th to July 11th.
04:26Where were you on August 19th?
04:28Probably still in Chicago.
04:30Doing what?
04:31Anything other than probably that.
04:36Okay.
04:37So what you're telling me, Mr. Chagong, is the following.
04:40That in 2019 and 2020, you visited with your daughter every two weeks, according to you, in Minneapolis, twice a month.
04:50Right.
04:51But in July of 2021, you were at an event that takes you a week to break down.
04:57It takes you a week to set up.
05:00You want me to believe that you didn't go in July, different from 2019, different from 2020, but in July of 2021, you didn't go twice a month to see your daughter.
05:12Is that what you want me to believe?
05:13My daughter was down in Florida at the time.
05:15You didn't go to see your daughter?
05:16No, I did not.
05:17Who did you leave her with in Florida?
05:19My sister.
05:20I have my daughter for the summer, but by me working, that's what I went down there to let her have with my sister so I can go to work.
05:28Why didn't she stay with her mother so that you could go to work?
05:30Because her mother has her 24 hours, seven days a week already, and I don't get to see my daughter.
05:35Why would you just take her to dump her with your sister?
05:38Because it was only a two-week project.
05:40Yeah, you see, your problem, Mr. Shkong, if you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory.
05:44I don't have a reason to lie to you.
05:45What was the damage to your house?
05:46I had two TVs broken, a PlayStation 4.
05:51I've had a printer, an HP printer broken.
05:53Oh, the only thing that I saw was him tagging your house and breaking the window.
05:58In the first video, you can actually see him kick the door, and then...
06:01That's okay.
06:02I didn't see him coming out with anything, breaking anything.
06:05I didn't see him inside.
06:06I have pictures of all the damage that was done.
06:08I believe that there was damage, I just have to connect him to it.
06:11It wasn't me.
06:12I have police reports.
06:13I don't believe you.
06:14I don't have no reason.
06:15I don't believe you, but that doesn't mean she can prove it.
06:17I have police reports.
06:19I'd like to take a look at a police report.
06:20You don't believe me the whole time, like I'm sitting here lying to you for some reason.
06:23I ain't gotta lie to you, ma'am.
06:25You lied to me when you say you didn't leave her with the keys.
06:27Okay, you the judge.
06:29I am.
06:32It's a very detailed narrative by the Minneapolis Police Department, what was on the footage.
06:49And later today...
06:53She's got to get your permission to sell it and give you half the proceeds.
06:58She didn't want to live in the mobile home to begin with.
07:01But if something happens to her, it belongs to you.
07:03Defendant Regina Monaghan is countersuing Quincy Chagot, claiming he burglarized and vandalized her property.
07:22Quincy says he was not in the state at the time of the incidents.
07:26Now, the police outlined what happened that clearly shows the plaintiff who they described to a T and who appears in the footage going in the house and coming out of the house.
07:40Now, you moved out of that apartment complex?
07:42Yes.
07:43So, any damage that was done was done, but you moved.
07:46I was forced to move.
07:47I'm not gonna ask you...
07:48Well, there were a lot of things that were going on there that were not right.
07:52And he damaged some of your property.
07:54Yes.
07:55And you drove his car, right?
07:57Yes.
07:58And you weren't supposed to drive his car.
07:59Yes.
08:00Because you have no driver's license.
08:01Yes.
08:02So, you're asking me for some help, right?
08:04Yup.
08:05Yup.
08:06And there isn't a question in my mind that you vandalized her house.
08:09So, you want me to help you.
08:11Courts don't do that.
08:12Why would you think that was me that did that?
08:14Because I saw pictures.
08:15That's...
08:16And I don't have to have proof by beyond a reasonable doubt that you damaged her house, sir.
08:21I have to have more evidence than not that you vandalized her house and damaged her property.
08:28And based upon what I've heard from both of you, there's more evidence than not that I believe that you did it.
08:34If I were in a jury and it was a criminal case and I had to prove by beyond a reasonable doubt that it was you, I don't know if I could do that.
08:42Fortunately for me, my quantum of proof here in small claims court is just more proof than not that you did it.
08:50So, I don't help you.
08:52Likewise, you.
08:53You had absolutely no right to get behind the wheel of a car.
08:57And your description of the events of the 26th of June, how this accident happened and what you were doing driving around the block is all too vague for me.
09:09So, it was the wrong thing for him to do.
09:12And it was equally the wrong thing for you to do.
09:15And courts don't have time to help wrongdoers.
09:19And I assume you haven't had anything to do with him for a while.
09:22No.
09:23Great.
09:24Goodbye and good luck.
09:25Keep it that way.
09:26We're done here.
09:27Court is adjourned.
09:29Situation happened where I was in an accident and he couldn't understand it.
09:34There was none of me in him for a while.
09:36So, this is it.
09:39So, after reading the complaint and the answer, I'd say that was a pretty even wash because what he was claiming the value of his car was and what she was claiming the damages that he caused.
09:50Car was worth between?
09:51Between $3,000 and $5,000 for a private party sale.
09:54Right.
09:55So, I think you both did the wrong thing and you can't be enriched for that.
09:59Both did the wrong thing.
10:01I didn't believe him at all.
10:03And I think that maybe she was a little tipsy when she was driving.
10:07She shouldn't have been driving anyway.
10:09Driving without a license is a serious offense.
10:11Yeah.
10:12And evidently, she's done it before.
10:13Yeah.
10:14She gets tickets for driving without a license.
10:16Please.
10:19Case number 1156, Ivy Sr. vs. Cohen.
10:22All parties, please step forward.
10:24Courtney Ivy Sr. is suing his ex-fiancee, Denise Cohens, for her half of mortgage payments and the value of his property.
10:33Mr. Ivy, how long have you and Ms. Cohen been together?
10:36Probably the last eight years.
10:37Were you ever married?
10:38No, ma'am.
10:39Not to her?
10:40To anybody?
10:41Yes.
10:42I was married to my daughter's mother.
10:43For how long?
10:4416 years.
10:45In what year did you and Ms. Cohen start to live together?
10:47About eight years ago.
10:492012.
10:502012.
10:51Women know that sort of thing.
10:54Do you remember when in 2012 he started to live together?
10:57He retired, so that was in July when he moved from Minnesota and came to live with me in Michigan.
11:05Had you known each other before?
11:07Since I was eight.
11:08So you retired in July of 2012?
11:10Yes, ma'am.
11:11And you sort of kept in touch with each other and decided to live together.
11:15Now you moved in with her?
11:16Yes.
11:17Was it her apartment?
11:18Yeah, my father had left her a duplex.
11:20So it was her home?
11:21Yes.
11:22When you moved in with Ms. Cohen's, did you help with mortgage?
11:26She didn't have a mortgage, so I went to work and I started paying all the utilities at her house.
11:31Okay, so you lived together as a couple starting in 2012.
11:35You got a job, paid your own expenses.
11:37Yes, ma'am.
11:38As if you were married, but not quite.
11:40Yes, ma'am.
11:41Now, at some point, the two of you together, as a couple, left the townhouse.
11:47In what year did you leave the townhouse?
11:50Twelve.
11:512013.
11:522013?
11:53Thank you, again.
11:58Did you sell the townhouse?
11:59No, ma'am.
12:00I gave it to my daughter, since my father gave it to me.
12:02Father gave it to you, you gave it to your daughter, and moved back to Minnesota.
12:06I never lived in Minnesota.
12:07You moved with him to Minnesota?
12:09Yes, he came to Minnesota first to get the apartment and everything set up.
12:13I stayed in Detroit to pack up my home for three months.
12:16You took an apartment in Minnesota?
12:18Yes, ma'am.
12:19How large an apartment?
12:20One bedroom.
12:21And that was in 2013?
12:22Yes, ma'am.
12:23You lived in that one bedroom apartment, was that leasing both your names?
12:27Yes, ma'am.
12:28Both.
12:29From 2013, you lived in this one bedroom apartment, until when?
12:33Until two years ago.
12:34Two years ago.
12:35When did you leave that one bedroom apartment?
12:37It was January the 16th, 2019.
12:42And January 16th, 2019, where did you go?
12:45I was looking for a mobile home to retire in, and bought a mobile home.
12:49And then at some point, the relationship ended.
12:51And this is what your lawsuit is about.
12:54You say you want her to return money that you spent towards the mortgage on the mobile home.
13:0118 months.
13:02Do you still have the mobile home?
13:04Yes, I do, ma'am.
13:05Is it in both your names?
13:06Yes, it is.
13:07It is until...
13:10Right now, it's in both your names?
13:12Yes.
13:13Because I refinanced it, so...
13:14Doesn't make any difference.
13:15It's in both your names.
13:16Yes.
13:17And if you want to sell it at any point, you have to get half.
13:20Otherwise, you don't sign your name.
13:23Now, you refinanced it, but in order to refinance it, because that's interesting, Ms. Cohns, didn't they need his signature to refinance it?
13:32I'm the borrower.
13:33He's the cosigner.
13:34Just a second.
13:35When did you refinance it?
13:37In what year?
13:38Just four months ago when he claimed he was moving out.
13:41Just a second.
13:42The relationship was over with.
13:43Just a second.
13:44So four months ago, he left.
13:45No, he was still in the household.
13:47Okay.
13:48The relationship was over?
13:49Yes.
13:50He moved into the guest room.
13:51Fine.
13:52Mm-hmm.
13:53I'm a bank.
13:54You have a mobile home that's owned by two people.
13:57It's in two people's names.
13:59You want to take more money out of that mobile home, more cash, so you refinance it.
14:04You need his signature on that.
14:06Just a second.
14:07That's either a yes or a no.
14:09No, I didn't want to take cash out.
14:11You just wanted to refinance it.
14:12To lower my mortgage payment since he was moving out.
14:15Okay.
14:16But he had to sign that.
14:18No.
14:19He didn't have to sign any papers?
14:20No.
14:21For you to refinance the mortgage?
14:23No.
14:24Okay.
14:25So, Mr. Ivy, the two of you lived together as a married couple, but you aren't married.
14:29You lived together for a long time, and there are no courts for almost marrieds.
14:33If you were married, you live in probably a state that is a community property state or
14:39a state that says we're going to split everything down the middle, but you're not married.
14:44So, you lived in a place, and you paid a mortgage on the place.
14:49I understand what you wrote.
14:50She stopped paying the mortgage, so you had to pay the mortgage.
14:53Excuse me, Your Honor.
14:54She never paid the mortgage for 18 months.
14:56I did.
14:57Plus, you know, I tried to split everything down the middle.
14:59That's the lie.
15:00That's the lie.
15:01And she refuses anything.
15:02That's the lie.
15:03Listen to me, sir.
15:04It doesn't make any difference to me or to any court.
15:08You two people lived together as a married couple, but you weren't married if you chose
15:13to pay the mortgage.
15:14But we haven't agreed.
15:15Now, courts don't care when you share a bed what your agreement was.
15:19You don't care.
15:21I don't care.
15:22I don't care.
15:26We decided that we'll get a boat so we can go fishing.
15:30I love to fish.
15:31Put your hand down.
15:32She refuses to give anything back and refuses to give me any conversation.
15:36She just want to take everything and run.
15:38Put your hand down.
15:51Courtney Ivey Sr. claims his ex-fiancee, Denise Cohens, owes for her half of mortgage payments
15:58and the value of his property.
16:00Denise is countersuing, claiming Courtney defamed her on social media.
16:05Now, you lived together.
16:07You now moved out.
16:09And you moved out and bought something of your own?
16:11Yes, ma'am.
16:12What did you buy?
16:13I bought a home.
16:14Great.
16:15Who do you live with?
16:16Me.
16:17Even better.
16:19And if she sells this mobile home, your name is still on the title.
16:24Yes, it is.
16:25She's got to get your permission to sell it and give you half the proceeds.
16:30Well, I asked her for it.
16:31Just a second.
16:32I can't force her to do that.
16:33She didn't want to live in the mobile home to begin with.
16:36It was you who wanted to live in the mobile home.
16:38Yes, ma'am.
16:39That's what I gathered from the papers.
16:40Did you get used to the mobile home?
16:42The one that I'm in, I picked up.
16:44Okay, so you got used to living in a mobile home.
16:46Yes, love it.
16:47Now you love it.
16:48You're not going to sell it anytime soon.
16:49No, ma'am.
16:50Okay.
16:51But if something happens to her, it belongs to you.
16:56Same difference.
16:57What I'm most interested in is the return of property because what you say is that she
17:05has certain property that belongs to you.
17:07And if you own property that she refuses to give you, that's what I want to hear about.
17:13Okay.
17:14I bought a lawnmower, a snowblower when we first moved into the mobile trailer, on her
17:18Home Depot card, and I paid off cash.
17:21So they actually belong to me.
17:22That's a lie.
17:23Don't speak.
17:24No.
17:25I also...
17:26When did you buy the lawnmower on her Home Depot card?
17:29Last year.
17:30And when did you buy the snowblower on it?
17:31Last year before winter hit.
17:32Okay.
17:33I also don't want to know about that.
17:35That's when you were living together as a couple, you put it on her Home Depot card,
17:40but you paid it off.
17:41Who cares?
17:42I want to know about your property that she refuses to give you.
17:47The snowblower, the furniture, half of the furniture.
17:52She paid half, I paid half.
17:53She refuses to give anything back and refuses to give me any compensation for anything that
17:59I've done.
18:00And she just want to take everything and run.
18:02I don't think that's fair.
18:03Did you...
18:04Just a second.
18:05Don't...
18:06You're not married.
18:07It's true.
18:08There's no division of property that courts do for people living together.
18:13If you said to me, she has my clothes.
18:17She has my computer.
18:19She has my boat.
18:21She has that too.
18:22Horrible.
18:23Okay, just a second.
18:24Different story.
18:25I thought I recalled something about a boat.
18:28Tell me about this boat.
18:30We bought a boat when COVID first hit.
18:32When they said that we had to be six feet apart in the social distance,
18:35we decided that we would get a boat so we can go fishing.
18:38I love to fish.
18:39Put your hand down.
18:40I'm sorry.
18:41I love to fish.
18:42And when she came along, I don't even know if she knew how to fish.
18:44Just a second.
18:45I don't care.
18:46You bought a boat when COVID struck.
18:48Right.
18:49Do you recall how much you caught?
18:50Put your hand down.
18:51Yeah.
18:52I'm going to get to you in a second.
18:53Okay.
18:54$1,500.
18:55A small four footer.
18:56Do you recall whether you paid for that jointly or whether you paid for that out of joint funds?
19:02No, I deposited $1,200 into my account, withdrew $1,000.
19:06She had $700 from somewhere.
19:08We put it together and we bought the boat.
19:10We registered the boat and my name and my name only.
19:13Okay.
19:14Do you have a copy of that registration?
19:15No, ma'am.
19:16I didn't have time to go to the state to get the copy.
19:18Okay.
19:19Do you have a copy of the registration, Ms. Cohns, of the boat?
19:22Yes.
19:23I'd like to see it.
19:24Kevin?
19:25Yes.
19:29Can I speak, Your Honor?
19:30No.
19:31Okay.
19:37Oh, yeah.
19:38Courtney Eugene Ivey.
19:39Yes, ma'am.
19:40It's your boat.
19:41Yes, ma'am.
19:42Go pick it up.
19:43Five days.
19:44No, Your Honor.
19:45Five days from today, he's picking up the boat.
19:47Your Honor, I put the first...
19:49I don't care.
19:50...$700 on the boat.
19:52He didn't know the guy.
19:53I found the boat.
19:54Listen to me.
19:55Carefully.
19:56The boat is in his name.
19:58It's his boat.
19:59Now, I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions.
20:01When he moved out of the mobile home, did he take any furniture with him?
20:06No, ma'am.
20:07Did he take the lawn mower with him?
20:09No, ma'am.
20:10Did he take the snow blower with him?
20:12No, ma'am.
20:13Did he take anything else with him?
20:14No, ma'am.
20:15He's picking up the boat in five days.
20:18Okay, Your Honor.
20:19Perfect.
20:20Yes, it is.
20:22I tried to give it to him.
20:23Got it? Just a second.
20:24That doesn't require an answer from you.
20:26Oh.
20:27Judgment.
20:28Okay.
20:29Picking up the boat.
20:30Yes, ma'am.
20:31Five days.
20:32Yes, ma'am.
20:33We'll give you an order.
20:34What else is there that's your property?
20:36The only thing else to be there that's considered just my personal property would be my titering
20:42machine for my back.
20:44That's about it.
20:45Did she ever use it?
20:46No, ma'am.
20:47Okay.
20:48Is that what you're talking about?
20:49Yes.
20:50You're gonna pick that up when you go and pick up the boat.
20:52Yes, ma'am.
20:53And we're going to make certain that the boat is in good shape because there are certain
20:56funds that we're going to hold until he gets the boat.
20:59Do you understand?
21:00Oh, he had the key to it, so I can't even get into the...
21:02Perfect.
21:03Now, you have a counterclaim, and your counterclaim is a relatively simple one and easily dismissed.
21:08It's for defamation.
21:10And you say, he put on the internet that I stole his home.
21:13Yes.
21:14Am I right?
21:15Yes.
21:16In his view, you did.
21:17And there would be 50% of the community that would believe that you bought this home together.
21:22It's in both your names.
21:23He left.
21:24You still have it.
21:25You refinanced it.
21:26He put money into it, as did you, and he doesn't have it anymore.
21:30So, in his mind, there's a reasonable interpretation of what you did.
21:34She stole my home.
21:35So, your case is dismissed.
21:37Your counterclaim.
21:38He's gonna pick up his boat within five days from today, along with his back machine.
21:42We're done.
21:43Thank you very much.
21:44Goodbye.
21:45Good luck.
21:46Have a happy life.
21:47Enjoy your new home.
21:48Bye.
21:49What is it, John?
21:51We just lost interest with each other.
21:53I got tired of her and left.
21:54Him not giving me attention.
21:55I'm not giving him attention.
21:57It was a lot of little things.
21:59She's just conniving, and she's...
22:00The same thing that should have happened four months ago when I offered to give him
22:04the boat, and he go ahead on.
22:06Threatening and loud-mouthed and everything else, and I got tired of it and left.
22:11They were lovely people.
22:12Mm-hmm.
22:13You know, Sarah looked to me like they had a decade together that was nice.
22:18But those types of relationships are so hard to hear in court, because, as you said,
22:23time and time again, when you're not married, there's no real legal remedy that we can use
22:28to help them.
22:29Yeah.
22:30And people who live together really have to understand that when you co-mingle and you're
22:34not married, and things become that intertwined, as their life financially was intertwined,
22:40you can't say, well, I paid for half the furniture that we've used for a decade.
22:45So it comes down to big items, car, boat, and whose name is it?
22:51Now, he doesn't want the mobile home because he's bought his own.
22:54Mm-hmm.
22:55When you read the complaint and the answer, she was a reluctant person when it came to
23:00moving into a mobile home.
23:01She's now come to like it.
23:02And I'm glad he's getting his boat back because he feels as if he got something.
23:08Mm-hmm.
23:09You know what I mean?
23:10Makes it feel more equitable.
23:11It makes it feel more equitable.
23:12Mm-hmm.
23:13Sometimes that's all we can do when we're reconstructed.
23:14Sometimes.
23:15Right.
23:16Sometimes that's all you can do.
23:17Yeah.
23:18Want justice?
23:20Go to JudyJustice.tv.
23:38Go to me.
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