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00:00The Joe Rogan experience
00:02So I would imagine if you're at the fucking CIA you're like, okay
00:05We're looking for people who have gone through these things in their life that have curated this kind of like personality type
00:11Well, isn't it just like part of the gig like here's a for instance like your bit about puffy
00:22How you're gonna connect these two fucking dots
00:24That bit is like look you don't have any real personal beef with Diddy
00:32But it's got to go down the the bits are there. I'm a gold miner. I just found some gold. You're right
00:39Maybe I'm a sociopath. It's not that you're a sociopath. It's just that that's part of the gig
00:44Yes, like you're not a sociopath with your friends. No, I think I'm maybe an empath. Yes
00:49I guess it's one of those things where like you justify you go
00:51Okay, if there's I think this person might have done something bad
00:56Yes, and he can get jokes and we're all gonna tell jokes. Yeah, I'm not pressing fucking charge
01:01Not only that you're not the guy who's out there like calling the New York Times. Hey, you know what I heard about it
01:06By the way, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You're just like it's there
01:12It's everywhere my fucking news feed is dominated by Fox News CNN
01:18Everyone there's raids at Diddy's house. Who is the guy that was running around with a sports bra on?
01:24Did you see that one dude? No, this is in LA. Oh my god
01:27I gotta send you all the raids are happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah
01:30He got caught up in the raid and he was yelling. I'm a celebrity. I'm a celebrity
01:34It was like like one of the most hilarious clips. Hold on. I'm gonna find you this. It's so funny
01:40Mm-hmm. Do you know what I'm talking about Jamie, but you bring up a good point, which is like
01:46Are there ever situations where you feel you won't
01:51Wait see see this
01:53He's wearing a sports bra. Hold on. We're gonna play it. Okay. Yeah, put your headphones on so you can hear it
02:06Oh
02:18Wearing what appears to be a black sports bra red tights and the performers signature trim beard and long eyelashes
02:27Yeah, this is Joe this is saucy Santana
02:30Oh wow, saliva on the beard is crazy saliva. He definitely came from Diddy party. Yeah, well, he was at Diddy's house
02:38I bet he was so I guess did he just kept people at his houses
02:42Cuz he's got multiple houses and he's just had freak out part. We get up
02:46Look at Saucy Santana go Saucy's crazy. Have you seen Saucy twerk?
02:50I didn't even know Saucy existed until I saw that video. Oh Saucy can throw it down
02:55This is booty by Saucy Tantana. I don't even know if it's Diddy's artist, but well
02:59Saucy's like a popular figure in music stayed at his house
03:04Now Diddy's in a tricky situation
03:06Boy that's the understatement of the year. Yeah, I think it's over you think it's over. I think it's over for him. It's like a
03:13Figure in entertainment, right? But I think it's over as him as far as he gets a cell right next to R. Kelly. I don't think so
03:20I don't think he gets a lot of skates. I think skates or he goes like Bali. Oh
03:26Yeah, yeah, that's a move, huh? I mean Russell's out there
03:29Yeah, you know, is he been formally charged or does he just know that the shit is out there?
03:34I think there's just so much shit out there, but I think those rappers did some
03:38Wild shit. It's yeah, I mean it was first in the 90s music business. It's a lot of people not just the music business
03:45It's like it's the extortion business. Well, that's yeah
03:49I mean the the rap game was crazy. That's a lot of thing a lot of people don't realize is like
03:53Back in the day, especially like early rap game. You weren't just going to play at you know
03:58What's the random theater that you would play in LA? What's like a theater?
04:02I'm trying to think the Orpheum or something like that will turn the will turn
04:06Some guys were explaining to me. He was like you would play at the local hood club
04:10There was like a hood club that you could perform at and then that was owned by the local drug dealer that was washing money there
04:17right, so this is where the idea of like checking in comes from have you heard of this term like
04:22Checking in was basically like hey
04:24I want to make sure we're good because you're gonna pay me
04:27And if I don't check in you might rob me because you're putting me up at the hotel and you know everything that's going on
04:34And you're a drug dealer so you don't play by the rules right when you come to Houston
04:38You're checking in with certain people mr. Prince. Yes, sir. Mr. Prince. Yeah, you don't gotta check in Joe
04:43You gotta check in say Joe don't gotta check in I'm not in that business. I say hi
04:49You've had him on here, right? Yeah, yeah, he's a legend in the game legend out of respect. I say hi there you go
04:55Yeah, there you go. So what is like yeah, yeah, how does a guy like him?
04:59like I'm trying to think like how do you?
05:02How do you navigate that to the point where people have this like respect and fear because of what they
05:08Assume you've done in the street world, right, but you're also operating legitimately
05:14Yeah, and nobody can get you
05:18They try they try boy. They tried with him many times and do you think they just give up? I don't think they have anything
05:26They had something they would have brought it
05:28You know, they have something on a guy like that. They try to get him. That's the thing that he's clever. Oh
05:33He's he's a he's playing many levels
05:37He's like one of those dudes you ever see a chess tournament where a guy walks in and there's ten different players and he just walks and goes to each move and
05:44Goes to the next board and makes a move goes to the next board makes a move that he beats everybody. Yeah
05:48Yeah, so where does a guy like that learn that that's what I'm trying to understand streets
05:52Yeah, yeah, he learns that you know, I mean, it's all about keeping people close. Yeah
05:57Respect. Yeah, give him respect getting respect. Yeah making sure that you know
06:03You cover all your statements. Yeah, like if you say something you have to make sure you do it you cover it
06:08Yeah, 100% of the time and there's probably times in his life where he's went like if it's poker
06:13He probably went all in a few times not in terms of money, but like this decision makes or breaks me. Yeah, I wonder how many make-or-break moments
06:21He's had
06:22Well, it depends on what's actually true. What's not true in terms of accusations
06:26You know because uh, if some of the accusations are true that kind of covers things
06:33You know when folks vanish
06:39Habra-cadabra see you later Spanish. Yeah. Yeah, that's effective. That feels effective. Oh 100%
06:46Yeah, and it should be because listen all the shit that's going on right now in the world
06:52In America, we get so soft and we think none of that shit's gonna happen here all that murder war drones
07:01Assassinations, that's not gonna happen here
07:04Unless you know the Clintons. Yes, you know some shit. Yeah, unless you know some shit about old bill
07:09And then you want to shoot yourself in the chest while hanging from an extension cord. Wait, did that happen?
07:14Oh, yeah, you don't know that guy? Shot himself in the chest. Joe, that seems really hard to do. With a shotgun
07:20Yeah, how do you do such a thing? While you're hanging. This is a guy that
07:25Brought Epstein to the White House at least seven times
07:30What's his name?
07:32We'll find out so they found him at a ranch 30 minutes from his house
07:37Hanging by an electrical cord from a tree with a shotgun wound to the chest shotgun discovered near the body a former Clinton aid
07:45Mark Middleton and then they called it a suicide
07:4912 gauge shotgun was 30 feet from the body of Mark Middleton was he found dead. Okay, so who who?
07:56Okay, who orchestrates this is this is this the same thing where?
08:01Does does Clinton go hey this guy needs to go or do the powers that be around a powerful person go?
08:09We already know what needs to happen. Well, I think they know if a dude is
08:14In contact with someone or has been talking or is about to talk mean cooperating with that
08:20I don't think any of those guys have clean phones
08:23I don't think any of those guys don't have their houses bugged. I don't think any of those guys aren't tracked
08:28Look how excited that guy is in the back
08:30Yeah, who the fuck if you're a guy that brought Jeffrey Epstein to the fucking White House to see Bill Clinton
08:37seven times and all this
08:39Epstein shit is going down and Galane's in jail and you have information there
08:44There's people on both sides, right?
08:46There's the people on the right that are trying to nail the people that are on the left with this
08:50There's people that are journalists that are trying to nail the people that were involved in this this is it
08:55Yeah
08:56And they've managed to keep that fucking list from coming out which shows you how powerful certain people are that should show you a lot
09:03That should be terrifying the fact that Galane Maxwell's in prison
09:07She's in prison for sex trafficking yet. No one's been accused of buying any of that pussy
09:11No one's been accused of having sex with these underage girls that she is in jail for supplying
09:18Yeah, that is that is crazy. That's crazy. You own a store and there's no items left yet. Nobody's purchased anything something's going on
09:26Something's going on. Yeah, so I guess what I'm trying to figure out is like
09:31People can go away. I mean that's what that's what people were saying and maybe you know
09:35Everybody's a conspiracy theorist now
09:36But that's what people are saying about the Diddy situation like when the D when the when the feds rolled up, you know, with the fucking Hummers and shit
09:42They're like it wasn't about
09:45Diddy, it was about if there were tapes of powerful people there. Yeah, I'm sure they were the ones that called
09:52They're like I need to protect myself
09:53So go in there with all the things and rip any tapes or any evidence Prince Harry was hanging with Diddy
09:59I mean everybody hung with Diddy
10:01That's the other trick. Yeah, like did he hung out with everybody and I've spoken to a bunch of people who were like yo great
10:05Dude, like always there for you never asked for a single thing to one of the morning and then
10:11Freak off everybody says get out of the house. Yeah, it's like the gremlins start eating after midnight
10:21Everybody tells the stories like I saw go upstairs and these dudes are fucking like right on the couch
10:26Yeah, and then I go in this room and these guys are fucking and it's like and pros like apparently he was getting male gigolos
10:34to fuck girls
10:36That girls yeah, that's the that was one of the rumors like the big also
10:40He would hire the professional dicks to have sex with the girls and I think he would watch allegedly that's that's what was alleged I think
10:48Yeah, it's a lot of crazy stuff going on and that's the other thing like I wonder like is that just a power thing?
10:54It's a Caligula thing. What does that mean? Caligula like the the Emperor did you ever see that movie Caligula?
11:00No, it's about just Roman Empire's being completely out of control
11:04Caligula is like almost like porn and it was a movie made I want to say in the 70s. It's a crazy movie
11:11But it's just it's just detailing extreme excess where you could never fill the hole
11:17But what what is the hole you need to fill like I'm trying to find like what's the just chaos? What year was this?
11:2379 yeah
11:27That's Malcolm McDowell right
11:31Yeah, hmm. Yeah, the dude from Clockwork Orange is a crazy movie man
11:36But it's it's still mild in comparison to what absolute absolute power corrupts Caligula
11:42Okay, so then there's the question. It's like can you take a completely normal person give them power and then they become that or does it take a power
11:49Hungry person that has this void that they need to be filled that needs to be filled and then when they are given that power
11:55You see the worst version of them ask your CIA boy. I bet he's got the answers. I bet he knows the exact formula
12:00To corrupting somebody or to
12:03What happens like what happens these people have you went right in there? Oh
12:06Oh, Jesus Christ. I remember I was I got to LA a day early and I was trying to like work out some like local stuff
12:12Because sometimes it's fun to just you know, you're in a city right and and I was I was at the store and I was bombing my ass off with local shit
12:19Every local joke I tried to do just fucking bombed and I was like what the fuck am I gonna talk about the forum like everything I try
12:25And I thought that they were like aware that like the city was you know in a different state than it used to be
12:31And I'm trying to write all these jokes about like what's happened to the city and people in LA don't really feel the city's changed that much
12:36That's like an outside perspective mmm, so I'm saying it and they're kind of laughing
12:40But they're like or they're aware and they don't want to admit it right and I remember we just just in the green room
12:46I'm, just like fuck him. Maybe the joke is about diddy
12:49That's the only thing everybody's talking about that's that's oh, it's on our minds. Yeah, that's what's happening. Yeah, and then bro
12:55This is how funny 50 is I I'll share this
12:57Can you yeah, uh-huh. I'll tell you the full thing after but I okay, I got FaceTime
13:06From 50 and he's like he's like yo next time
13:12You know next time I come see you bro. I'm gonna come out on stage with a Maltese cat
13:16I'm like bro, you're the craziest motherfucker imagine him walking out on the show petting a fucking cat
13:30So do you what do you think was going on?
13:33With who meek meek and diddy? I don't think I don't think meek's gay. I don't think anything's happened with them
13:39I think that was just like a funny rumor that happened. I even said that when I first did the meek joke
13:43I was like, I don't think he's gay. He just handled the accusations poorly. Yes, like he just handled it. He said I love pussy
13:49Who does that? That's the gayest thing. Yeah, it's okay, but I don't think he's but uh
13:53Yeah, yeah, but that's just an unsophisticated approach to PR
13:57Yeah, like his PR team is probably like hey, maybe don't do something. Yeah. Yeah, who knows? I mean
14:03He's probably not consulting with anybody. Yeah, I had to guess nobody consults with you when something happens. You just post whatever you want
14:10Yeah, yeah, I don't have like a team. Yeah telling me
14:14Don't say that before the podcast
14:16That would be a problem. Yeah, it would be. Yeah, I would have never gotten anywhere. Yes
14:21Yeah, we need you to not have a team actually
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