Karen Pirie Season 1 Episode 1

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00:00:00He's only just recently forced his way into the England side Southgate.

00:00:11Model they call him, but model at Aston Villa.

00:00:15He does everything right.

00:00:16You can come in the bar, like everybody else.

00:00:44England are out.

00:00:46Tonight, it's going to be me, him.

00:00:50Piss off!

00:00:52Why?

00:00:52Alex.

00:00:53Why Southgate?

00:00:54It could have been Inks or Adams.

00:00:56Omo, do you want to get rid of your life, mate?

00:01:00Hey.

00:01:03This will cheer you up.

00:01:04Are we disco shandy?

00:01:05Do you know how many police drinking in here?

00:01:07Don't be a handbrake, Alex.

00:01:09I'll get rid of it, quickly.

00:01:10Oh, that Rosie, eh?

00:01:16Well class.

00:01:17I don't trust you.

00:01:19She's alright.

00:01:21I'll get her to come tonight.

00:01:23Don't scare her, will you?

00:01:24She won't, anyway.

00:01:25Not for you, she won.

00:01:26This song, again?

00:01:34Oh, the land search.

00:01:37Well, can love clean the glass washer fuckhole just once?

00:01:40Who?

00:01:41Is he in here?

00:01:42Who?

00:01:43Uh, your man.

00:01:44Do you have a man?

00:01:44Yes, you do.

00:01:45You just don't want to tell me who he is.

00:01:46You got me.

00:01:48It's your dad.

00:01:49Oh, screw you.

00:01:51Hello, beautiful.

00:01:51Uh, Iona, I'll help you.

00:01:54I don't want Iona.

00:01:56I want you.

00:02:01If I had watched it.

00:02:05Her brothers would crush it.

00:02:07Right, so you're going to go tonight.

00:02:13It's about eight times, Lisa.

00:02:14You just go off, Kat.

00:02:15Is that all right, man?

00:02:17Oh, well for me, too.

00:02:21Rosie, that's where we'll be.

00:02:36Football's a simple game, me.

00:02:49God.

00:02:4922 men chase a ball in for 90 minutes.

00:02:51Can you just let me go in the end?

00:02:53The Germans always win.

00:02:55Oh, my God.

00:02:56It's coming home.

00:02:58It's coming home.

00:02:59It's coming.

00:03:00Football's coming.

00:03:02Uh, you mind if I pop out?

00:03:09Where are you going?

00:03:11If Cole or Brian or anyone asks,

00:03:13just see him changing the line.

00:03:14They're out on tree, they won't notice.

00:03:16You got to meet him?

00:03:16I'll be back before he goes up.

00:03:20Everyone's steam in those, eh?

00:03:21Well, if there's trouble, call the police.

00:03:22We're on table nine.

00:03:25Enjoy your shot.

00:03:26We're on table nine.

00:03:56The Prime Minister condemned the violence as disgraceful.

00:04:12These people should not besmirch soccer.

00:04:15They are not soccer supporters.

00:04:16They do damage to soccer.

00:04:18However, the violence was not confined to a much...

00:04:21We see them.

00:04:32What are you things?

00:04:43Hey.

00:04:44Hey.

00:04:45Break it up.

00:04:46I'm going to need a statement from you

00:04:50in one fae the box.

00:04:52Janice, don't you start.

00:04:54Start what?

00:04:55You're drunk.

00:05:03I need a lift.

00:05:05Do I look like a cabbie?

00:05:07Come on.

00:05:07This is public intoxication.

00:05:11Well, let me come home with you, then.

00:05:13It's not any funny business, I promise.

00:05:15I want you to try it.

00:05:17Have a nice walk, Colin.

00:05:44Janice.

00:05:45Janice.

00:05:46Janice.

00:05:47You stay right there.

00:05:48No, no, no.

00:05:49You need to come.

00:05:50What's happened?

00:05:51Ambulance.

00:05:52Call an ambulance.

00:05:53We tried to help her.

00:05:54Help who?

00:05:55I said stay there.

00:05:56Call an ambulance.

00:05:57She's dying.

00:05:58I said stay there.

00:05:59I said stay there.

00:06:00Call an ambulance.

00:06:01She's dying.

00:06:07Quebec Sierra 5-3.

00:06:09Urgent assistance needed.

00:06:10Hospital fatality in the cathedral grounds.

00:06:13Glitch.

00:06:14I said she's dying.

00:06:15I said stay there.

00:06:16God, the police.

00:06:17Where did she go?

00:06:18She's dying.

00:06:19She's dying.

00:06:20She's dying.

00:06:21She's dying.

00:06:22Pauzy.

00:06:35Pauzy.

00:06:52Pauzy.

00:07:22Pauzy.

00:07:52I'm walking amongst the ruins of an old cathedral, ancient archways and crumbling spires emerging

00:08:20out of a cliff on the eastern edge of Scotland.

00:08:25It's picturesque, like most of St. Andrews, a charming and historic university town.

00:08:31But I'm trying to imagine something much darker and more devastating.

00:08:38Because on the 27th of June, 1996, a 19-year-old barmaid named Rosemary Duff was found here

00:08:46strangled, cut across the stomach and left to bleed out into the grass.

00:08:53Three boys that she knew were found leaving the scene.

00:08:57Did they stumble across her on the way home from a party like they said they did?

00:09:01Were they covered in her blood because they tried to save her life?

00:09:04Or was that all a clever cover story?

00:09:11It's now 25 years later.

00:09:13And the murder remains unsolved.

00:09:15I'm Belle Richmond.

00:09:16This is Echoes, the Rosy Duff case.

00:09:19And I'm here to ask, why?

00:09:22Why did they feel this young woman didn't deserve justice?

00:09:26This, this is what passes for journalism now, is it?

00:09:31A sultry voice and a bit of a jingle.

00:09:33The angle seems to be that the original investigation was negligent, victim-blaming.

00:09:38That because Rosy was out by herself in the early hours, we didn't prioritize the case.

00:09:43Well, you were there. Is that true?

00:09:45Of course not.

00:09:46But admittedly, it doesn't look good that we've never launched a review.

00:09:51Because there's no new evidence.

00:09:53We'd be going through the motions because some woke millennials found a microphone.

00:09:58Listen, we underestimate her out of Belle.

00:10:00She gave them out hell over a missing person's case, and the Chief Constable doesn't want the same for us.

00:10:05We have to stay ahead of her.

00:10:07Right.

00:10:08So I've got some poor sod on it.

00:10:10For damage control.

00:10:11We've no hope in solving it.

00:10:13It's good experience for a young detective.

00:10:16And given the angle of the podcast, I think it would help the optics if it was a female officer.

00:10:22Yeah.

00:10:25You go, wouldn't it?

00:10:38These farts are tiny.

00:10:40There's no way he hid 50k worth of stuff in there.

00:10:43I see.

00:10:44I had no idea.

00:10:45Yeah.

00:10:46Women should be more vigilant.

00:10:48I know you like him, sweetheart.

00:10:50But you just make sure he's not hiding stolen iPads under your floorboards.

00:10:54Right.

00:10:56Tracey, we're just here to get your witness statement.

00:10:59It's not a good time.

00:11:00Are you okay?

00:11:01Yeah.

00:11:02No, no, I'm fine.

00:11:05What is that noise?

00:11:08He's here.

00:11:11We're back together.

00:11:13Right.

00:11:14But he came home drunk.

00:11:16Right.

00:11:17So I locked him out of the balcony.

00:11:20Right.

00:11:21We're coming in now, Tracey.

00:11:22Why don't we?

00:11:23Me and you have a chat in here.

00:11:26I've changed my mind about testimony.

00:11:28The police.

00:11:29Police.

00:11:30Come inside, please.

00:11:31We've talked about this.

00:11:32I love him.

00:11:33I'm not going to help you put him away.

00:11:34You will be an accessory to his crimes, Tracey.

00:11:36I didn't know what he was doing.

00:11:37You'll have to prove that in court.

00:11:39Do you really want to go through all of that for him?

00:11:41Let me know where it is.

00:11:42Terrified cabinet.

00:11:43Oh.

00:11:45Right.

00:11:46Why don't we go down to the stage?

00:11:48Don't.

00:11:49Tracey.

00:11:50I'll let you talk about this.

00:11:51No.

00:11:52I'm not going to do this.

00:11:53Touch me.

00:11:54I'm not going to leave now.

00:11:55Oh.

00:11:56Oh.

00:11:57Oh.

00:11:58Oh.

00:11:59Oh.

00:12:00Oh.

00:12:01Oh.

00:12:15Oh.

00:12:16Oh.

00:12:17I need to be hosed down.

00:12:20Mine's round the corner.

00:12:22I've got half a bottle of Echo Falls and some Picardie Breezers.

00:12:26What would I need a pub for?

00:12:30Just approach the shower slowly.

00:12:33I haven't seen a naked man in some time.

00:12:42Wait, you don't remember it?

00:12:44No!

00:12:45That hen party.

00:12:50Yeah!

00:12:52They were all fighting each other.

00:12:54The hair extensions were flying.

00:12:57I walked in first and I was screaming at the top of my lungs.

00:12:59They took no notice of me and then you walked in.

00:13:02They thought I was a stripper.

00:13:03No, they didn't.

00:13:04Aye, they did.

00:13:06One of them tried to ride me like a pony.

00:13:10Best day of your life.

00:13:11Well, today I got to wear your Fun Run t-shirt, so...

00:13:15Well, take it off if you don't like it.

00:13:18No.

00:13:19No, you'd enjoy that too much.

00:13:21It's pretty cocky for a man that smells like sick.

00:13:26Are you serious?

00:13:27No.

00:13:28No.

00:13:29No.

00:13:30No.

00:13:31No.

00:13:32No.

00:13:33No.

00:13:34No.

00:13:35No.

00:13:36No.

00:13:37No.

00:13:38No.

00:13:39No.

00:13:40No.

00:13:41No.

00:13:42No.

00:13:43No.

00:13:44Hey, did you hear Serious Crimer putting together a case review team?

00:13:57No.

00:13:59Unsolved murder from 96.

00:14:05I've been waiting for this kind of opening.

00:14:09I've been speaking to Lise for so long about DS positions, it's got to be me next.

00:14:14What have you got up in the world?

00:14:17If everything goes to plan.

00:14:19You don't want to be vommed on and humped by the riffraff for me anymore.

00:14:24I mean, I hope not.

00:14:28Who are you trying to get away from?

00:14:30Riffraff or me?

00:14:32What's the difference?

00:14:38You're an arsehole, you know that.

00:14:41Yeah.

00:14:44I think you like it.

00:14:46I think you like it.

00:15:14Do you ask Perry?

00:15:15Oh.

00:15:16Perfect.

00:15:17Yeah.

00:15:18Fine.

00:15:19Fine.

00:15:20Okay.

00:15:21Wow.

00:15:22Great.

00:15:23Delighted.

00:15:24Just surprised you later.

00:15:25Thank you, sir.

00:15:26Speak to you soon.

00:15:27Is that Robertson?

00:15:28The Eilees?

00:15:29The Eilees?

00:15:30The Eilees?

00:15:33Fine.

00:15:35Okay.

00:15:37Wow.

00:15:40Great.

00:15:41Delighted.

00:15:43Just surprised you later.

00:15:45Thank you, sir.

00:15:47Speak to you soon.

00:15:51Is that Robertson?

00:15:56The Eilis.

00:16:00Why was he calling?

00:16:02It's the review.

00:16:12Why, does he want to meet you?

00:16:17I'm running it.

00:16:22What?

00:16:25I'm running the review.

00:16:27Apparently.

00:16:27I'm sorry.

00:16:49Don't.

00:16:50Don't.

00:16:52Don't be sorry.

00:16:53I don't understand this.

00:17:00It's fine.

00:17:03You're getting up and you're getting dressed, so it doesn't seem that fine.

00:17:15Look, I'll speak to you later, okay?

00:17:18I, I just, uh, I need, I need some air.

00:17:24Nine out of ten murders are committed by men.

00:17:47Two women a week are killed by a current or ex-partner, and one in three women will experience domestic abuse in their lifetime.

00:17:56Take that in.

00:17:58Take that in.

00:17:59Every woman I know has accepted it as a fact that she should call a friend when she walks

00:18:06home at night.

00:18:06That she should placate and, uh, speak sweetly to men so as not to provoke violence.

00:18:13That she should have her keys ready between her knuckles.

00:18:16When are we going to admit that it's not enough, that it will never be enough, that we were never the problem?

00:18:26Rosie Duff had a sex life.

00:18:29She had secrets.

00:18:31She went out at night alone to meet someone, and I, I think that's why the police gave up

00:18:37on her case so quickly.

00:18:39A woman who isn't doing everything in her power not to get murdered deserves what she gets.

00:18:45No.

00:18:46Rosie, and all the Rosies, deserve better.

00:18:52We were friends.

00:18:59We spoke every day.

00:19:00Friends who wanted to ride each other.

00:19:06Maybe after he got what he wanted.

00:19:08Or maybe he just really wanted that job.

00:19:10I have no idea why they gave it to me.

00:19:12Uh, because you're brilliant.

00:19:14Joel's brilliant.

00:19:15And he's got a better success rate than me.

00:19:17He's worked with these before.

00:19:18And he's been waiting longer to move up.

00:19:19So, why did they give it to you?

00:19:22I'm joking.

00:19:23I did say you were brilliant first.

00:19:26I don't have a clue what I'm doing.

00:19:29Just pretend you do.

00:19:30Like everyone else.

00:19:36I don't know.

00:19:37I don't know.

00:19:38I don't know.

00:19:39I don't know.

00:19:40I don't know.

00:19:41I don't know.

00:19:42I don't know.

00:19:43I don't know.

00:19:44I don't know.

00:19:45I don't know.

00:19:46I don't know.

00:19:47I don't know.

00:19:48I don't know.

00:19:49I don't know.

00:19:50I don't know.

00:19:51I don't know.

00:19:52I don't know.

00:20:02Yes, Perrie.

00:20:03DI Lees.

00:20:04Welcome to Serious Crime.

00:20:05Happy to have you.

00:20:06Pleasure to be here, sir.

00:20:07Walk with me.

00:20:08Um, I'll introduce you to the rest of the team.

00:20:10But first, I want to get you briefed.

00:20:11We haven't got time to waste on this.

00:20:13No.

00:20:14I suppose it'll be.

00:20:1526 years soon, eh?

00:20:17Yeah.

00:20:18I gather you're from Fife, Perrie.

00:20:20Methyl, sir.

00:20:21You remember it, then?

00:20:22Rosie Duff murder.

00:20:23Would have been all over the news.

00:20:25I was three, sir.

00:20:26Three.

00:20:27Jesus.

00:20:28Well, at least you'll be up with all the podcasting nonsense then.

00:20:31Yes, sir.

00:20:32Good.

00:20:33Ideally, we would have shut the whole thing down, but we don't have the power.

00:20:35So just watch her closely.

00:20:37If she oversteps the mark, then we can slap her with an injunction.

00:20:40Watch her closely.

00:20:41Got it.

00:20:42I've had all your files brought up, and I'm around if you need me.

00:20:44Bet I'm across six other investigations, so...

00:20:47Get on with it.

00:20:48Yeah.

00:20:49Get on with it, yeah.

00:20:50Sir.

00:20:51The team.

00:20:52Ah.

00:20:53Yeah, where is he?

00:20:55Mains?

00:20:56Mains!

00:20:57Oh, I didn't see that.

00:21:05Dia's Perrie.

00:21:07DC Murray.

00:21:09There we are.

00:21:10There's your team.

00:21:11Constant updates, please.

00:21:13Murray.

00:21:14Mints.

00:21:15Get it.

00:21:16Yeah, but the lads gave it to me.

00:21:17I was pushing for the machine.

00:21:18Wow.

00:21:19The machine.

00:21:20Well, I got the department record and the bleep test.

00:21:21But you don't get to choose your own.

00:21:22Oh, well, I get one.

00:21:23You've already got one.

00:21:24What is it?

00:21:25I don't think it was you, actually.

00:21:26No, go on.

00:21:27Oh, it was someone else.

00:21:28Right.

00:21:29Well, I'd quite like one.

00:21:30Well, I'd quite like one.

00:21:31It's not been the greatest time to be called Karen.

00:21:32Is there scenes in the room?

00:21:33Have you listened to the podcast?

00:21:34Yeah, it's quite, um...

00:21:35It's quite feminist, eh?

00:21:36You don't like that?

00:21:37No, no, no, absolutely.

00:21:38You know, do your thing.

00:21:39Fight the fight.

00:21:40Oh.

00:21:41Oh.

00:21:42I don't think it was you, actually.

00:21:43Now, go on.

00:21:44Oh, it was someone else.

00:21:45Right.

00:21:46Well, I'd quite like one.

00:21:47It's not been the greatest time to be called Karen.

00:21:50What?

00:21:51Is there scenes in the room?

00:21:53Hmm.

00:21:54Have you listened to the podcast?

00:21:57Yeah, it's quite, um...

00:21:59It's quite feminist, eh?

00:22:00You don't like that?

00:22:03No, no, no.

00:22:04Absolutely.

00:22:05You know, do your thing.

00:22:06Fight the fight.

00:22:07Hmm.

00:22:08Well, I suppose we should start at the beginning.

00:22:14Who was at the crime scene?

00:22:16And why?

00:22:17What?

00:22:18Ambulance is dying!

00:22:23You three come over here where I can see you!

00:22:30Still warm.

00:22:31I'm a medical student.

00:22:32Can I help?

00:22:33I'm a medical student.

00:22:38Can I help?

00:22:41I'm a medical student.

00:22:42Can I help?

00:22:43I'm a medical student. Can I help?

00:23:01You say you found her?

00:23:03On her way home.

00:23:05Why did you leave?

00:23:08To find her phone.

00:23:09But you're a medic.

00:23:10Why didn't you stay with her?

00:23:12Why didn't one of the others go?

00:23:33I tried to be sussed through it, but I think she's gone.

00:23:37Have you got an ID?

00:23:39Rosie Duff.

00:23:40Sir.

00:23:41Two of them were at the scene.

00:23:47One of them ran out right in front of my car.

00:23:57Thanks, Jimmy.

00:23:59They said they found her like this.

00:24:02The one that left said he was running for help.

00:24:08Detain them, Jimmy.

00:24:08I've never seen anything.

00:24:18Keep it together, Johnny.

00:24:20For her.

00:24:22She was strangled.

00:24:24Look at yours.

00:24:25By hand.

00:24:26Is that who she died?

00:24:27The autopsy concluded that she was throttled until she was unconscious.

00:24:32That it was the stomach wound that killed her.

00:24:36She bled to death.

00:24:37Would have taken 20 minutes, maybe more.

00:24:40She's just lying there.

00:24:42Jesus, why do that?

00:24:43Cut across the stomach.

00:24:44It's such a slow death.

00:24:45And why leave her in the cathedral?

00:24:49I suppose a graveyard makes some sense.

00:24:51Nah.

00:24:52If you want to get rid of a body, you bury it.

00:24:56Dump it in the sea, burn it.

00:24:57You don't leave it in the middle of a tourist attraction right in the middle of summer.

00:25:02Unless you want someone to find it.

00:25:04You think that has some significance?

00:25:06Religious aspects?

00:25:07I don't know yet.

00:25:08What was the weapon?

00:25:10You think it was a kitchen knife?

00:25:12They didn't find it.

00:25:13No.

00:25:14Never.

00:25:15There was another thing.

00:25:17When they analysed Rosie's clothing, they found fibres from the interior carpet of a car.

00:25:23They moved the body.

00:25:24It's a second crime scene.

00:25:26But we don't know where.

00:25:29Okay.

00:25:30So, she's choked unconscious, moved by car, laid out in the graveyard and cut across the stomach.

00:25:38But there's no sign of a murder weapon when the police arrive.

00:25:41Or if you come.

00:25:45Can I have your mails, please?

00:25:49Alex Gilby.

00:25:51He's Tom Mackey.

00:25:53And you?

00:25:54That's Sigmund Malkovich.

00:25:56I just want to go home.

00:25:57You need to speak to us.

00:25:57Where are the witnesses?

00:25:59Alex Gilby, Tom Mackey, Sigmund Malkovich.

00:26:01I'm detaining you under Section 14 of the Criminal Procedure Scotland Act 1995 for the murder of Rosie Duff.

00:26:07What?

00:26:07You're not obliged to say anything, but anything you do say maybe no with the news and evidence.

00:26:10No, you don't understand.

00:26:12We found her.

00:26:12We need to take you to the station and question her.

00:26:14You sent the tape.

00:26:16You sent the...

00:26:18Wait, what are you doing?

00:26:20Don't make this harder than it needs to be.

00:26:23What are you...

00:26:24Stop it!

00:26:27What are you doing?

00:26:28Do it!

00:26:28Get off!

00:26:29What are you doing?

00:26:30What are you doing?

00:26:31Don't do anything!

00:26:31What are you doing?

00:26:31Don't do anything!

00:26:32Don't do anything!

00:26:34What are you doing?

00:26:36Stop it!

00:26:41Listen.

00:26:43We didn't see her tonight.

00:26:44We don't know her.

00:26:45Okay?

00:26:45because they were never charged with the murder legally i cannot name the three students that

00:27:06were at the scene of the crime so instead i will be giving them aliases the historian

00:27:14because he was a history student an eccentric by all accounts a party boy with a penchant for drugs

00:27:20who was suspended from st andrews several times only to become a university lecturer himself later

00:27:29he could be teaching you or your child or your sister right now then there's the artist the

00:27:40hardest of the three to research he has no social media presence barely any internet footprint at all

00:27:48everyone has a right to privacy but it does prompt the question does he have something to hide

00:27:59and then the medic now a celebrated surgeon people put their lives in his hands

00:28:05every day he's been described as a prolific man an incessant perfectionist a workaholic

00:28:15he's doing a lot of good in the world and for that we should be thankful

00:28:19but i have to ask what's driving him is it guilt

00:28:34so

00:28:42so

00:28:43so

00:28:47I'm sorry.

00:29:06So, we could only hold the boys for six hours, so they interviewed them immediately.

00:29:19Zygmunt Malkovich, is that right? Polish, is it? It's Ziggy.

00:29:27Ziggy, right. Well, I'm Detective Inspector McLennan, this is Detective Sergeant Lawson,

00:29:34and we're going to have a wee chat about what happened tonight.

00:29:39So, shall we start at the beginning?

00:29:43We were just walking home from a party, and we found our...

00:29:49That's not the beginning, though, is it?

00:29:52We watched the match.

00:29:54Where?

00:29:55At the... the Lammas pub.

00:30:00Which is where Rosie worked.

00:30:02Yeah. I guess so.

00:30:05And did you see her there?

00:30:09It was really busy.

00:30:10Is that a yes or a no?

00:30:14Just from afar.

00:30:16Did your friends?

00:30:20They might have.

00:30:21Have you ever spoken to her?

00:30:25I've ordered drinks from her.

00:30:26So you knew her?

00:30:33No.

00:30:37What time did you leave the Lammas?

00:30:40Um...

00:30:41Um...

00:30:42Uh...

00:30:4310...

00:30:4430...

00:30:4511-ish.

00:30:46Where'd you go?

00:30:47To a party.

00:30:49Whose party?

00:30:50Some, um...

00:30:52Some fourth years.

00:30:53And where was this party?

00:30:55I, um...

00:30:57I, um...

00:30:59I, uh...

00:31:00I don't know.

00:31:01What time did you get to the party?

00:31:02I'm not sure.

00:31:03Well, how long did you stay at the party?

00:31:04Until we walked home.

00:31:05Which was at what time?

00:31:06I'm sorry, what?

00:31:07You want something, Tom?

00:31:08No.

00:31:09We'll be testing you, so you might want to be honest.

00:31:10What is this party at Scooney Hill Lane?

00:31:13At this address?

00:31:14I don't know.

00:31:15How long did you stay at the party?

00:31:16Well, how long did you stay at the party?

00:31:17Until we walked home.

00:31:18Which was at what time?

00:31:19I'm sorry, what?

00:31:20You want something, Tom?

00:31:21No.

00:31:22We'll be testing you, so you might want to be honest.

00:31:24What is this party at Scooney Hill Lane?

00:31:35At this address?

00:31:42He seems to think it happened at the party.

00:31:44It is a big house.

00:31:45It's an abandoned manor.

00:31:47Old, dilapidated.

00:31:48So, plenty of places to sneak away at it.

00:31:51If Serex do drugs or, you know, kill someone.

00:31:55I think that, at the pub, you invited her to the party.

00:31:59You wrote the address down here for her.

00:32:01She turned up and something went very, very wrong.

00:32:04No, she never came.

00:32:05So you did invite her?

00:32:06But she didn't turn up.

00:32:07That doesn't feel very likely, Ziggy.

00:32:09I mean, you invited this girl to a party, and then we find your friends with her body,

00:32:14and you trying to flee the scene covered in blood.

00:32:16No, I was getting help.

00:32:18And then you hide evidence.

00:32:20I...

00:32:21I didn't.

00:32:22It...

00:32:23It fell out of her pocket when I was helping her.

00:32:26I...

00:32:27I didn't realize I still had it on me.

00:32:28So you dropped it and obscured it?

00:32:29Because I...

00:32:30I thought it would look bad.

00:32:31This looks very bad, Ziggy.

00:32:33And your story is, you invite her to the party.

00:32:36She doesn't turn up.

00:32:37And you just happened to stumble across her on the way home.

00:32:42Except the cathedral isn't on your way home, Ziggy, is it?

00:32:45It adds a good ten minutes to your journey.

00:32:48Sometimes we just walk that way.

00:32:51I don't know.

00:32:52You do know, Ziggy.

00:32:53You took her there.

00:32:54Either dead or alive, you took her there.

00:32:57No.

00:32:58Something happened at that party.

00:32:59Someone else did this.

00:33:00Were you sleeping with her?

00:33:01No.

00:33:02Did you want to?

00:33:03No.

00:33:04Maybe she resisted and you didn't like that.

00:33:05No.

00:33:06Maybe it was one of your friends.

00:33:07No.

00:33:08Maybe they did this and you helped cover it up.

00:33:09No.

00:33:10Why did you kill her, Ziggy?

00:33:11Why did you strangle her?

00:33:12I didn't.

00:33:13One of you did.

00:33:14No.

00:33:15Oh, did you rape her?

00:33:16Didn't want her to tell anyone?

00:33:17No.

00:33:18Maybe you argued, huh?

00:33:19Your hands went up to her neck.

00:33:21No, I swear!

00:33:22What did she do to get you so mad, Ziggy?

00:33:24Nothing!

00:33:25She must have wound you up somehow.

00:33:27No!

00:33:32I didn't know her.

00:33:33I didn't see her.

00:33:38I didn't kill her.

00:33:42He's missing two things.

00:33:43Murder weapon and a second crime scene.

00:33:45Is there any witness accounts that plays Rosie at the party?

00:33:48They interviewed everyone and nobody saw her.

00:33:51They must have searched it, top the bottom.

00:33:53Yeah, they did and didn't find anything.

00:33:55Not a single hair, a drop of blood or any sign of a murder weapon.

00:34:00Can we go?

00:34:01Since been demolished.

00:34:03Brilliant.

00:34:04Right.

00:34:05So, the last place she was seen was?

00:34:08CCTV.

00:34:10On the High Street at midnight.

00:34:20See? She ducks.

00:34:21Doesn't want to be seen.

00:34:22Iona.

00:34:23Her friend said that she left the pub to meet someone.

00:34:26One of these students.

00:34:27Rosie didn't tell her.

00:34:28She didn't tell anyone.

00:34:30Why?

00:34:32Probably her brothers.

00:34:33Colin and Brian Duff.

00:34:34Both extremely protective.

00:34:36And they were there that night?

00:34:37Mm.

00:34:38Both tough bastards.

00:34:39Criminal records, drunk driving, assault.

00:34:42Did she have sex?

00:34:45There's signs in post-bortem.

00:34:48But no semen.

00:34:49So, condom or didn't finish?

00:34:51Or, she could have been interrupted.

00:34:54Signs of assault, right?

00:34:55Nothing definitive.

00:34:57It could have just been rough sex.

00:35:02But look, this is interesting.

00:35:03She's caught right across the abdomen.

00:35:05No, look below.

00:35:06She has a cesarean skirt across her lower stomach.

00:35:08It's barely mentioned in the reports.

00:35:11Rosie had a baby.

00:35:13But there's no mention of when it happened,

00:35:15what happened to it, or who the father was.

00:35:17Surely an ex would be the first place she'd look.

00:35:20Why didn't they investigate it?

00:35:21I don't know.

00:35:23But, maybe the brothers can shine a light.

00:35:26So, get across the forensics tonight.

00:35:31Tonight?

00:35:33Yeah, well, we'll go and see the Duffs tomorrow.

00:35:37Right, okay.

00:35:40Have you got somewhere to be?

00:35:41Just a head class.

00:35:44Right, well, I could put one box on one side of the room

00:35:47and one on the other, and you could run between them if you like.

00:35:49And try and beat your time.

00:35:50I can play some bleeps if you like.

00:35:51Yeah, okay, okay.

00:35:52Yeah, because you're really good at the bleep test.

00:35:54Yeah, I'll do more homework.

00:35:57It was one of the first things that you said to me, actually.

00:36:03Hey.

00:36:04Hey.

00:36:05How's it going?

00:36:06How's it going?

00:36:07The whole way.

00:36:08She's not going to text her back, then?

00:36:09Hey.

00:36:10Hey.

00:36:11How's it going?

00:36:12The whole way.

00:36:13The whole way.

00:36:14She's not going to text her back, then?

00:36:15I'm sorry, KP.

00:36:16I'm really sorry.

00:36:17I keep writing things and then deleting them.

00:36:18I'm sorry.

00:36:19How's it going?

00:36:20The whole way.

00:36:21Just not going to text her back, then?

00:36:24I'm sorry, KP.

00:36:25I'm really sorry.

00:36:26Hey.

00:36:28How's it going?

00:36:30They're all right.

00:36:34She's not going to text her back then?

00:36:38I'm sorry, KP.

00:36:40I'm really sorry.

00:36:42I keep writing things and then deleting them.

00:36:46I've been trying to find the right words.

00:36:48Well, anything would have been better than nothing.

00:36:52I know.

00:36:56We've known each other too long to be falling out over a job.

00:37:04I get it now.

00:37:06It should be you on this job.

00:37:08It's frightening that it's you.

00:37:10What do you mean?

00:37:12I spoke to Lise about it and he explained everything.

00:37:16Explain what?

00:37:18Just what you know with the...

00:37:20the podcast.

00:37:22All the accusations she's making out against the police

00:37:24about gender violence and, you know,

00:37:26it's appropriate that they've got...

00:37:28Susan.

00:37:30Wait.

00:37:32Are you saying they put me on this because I'm a woman?

00:37:36Not just that.

00:37:38And that you've all been talking about it?

00:37:40Saying that a female has to be on this because it'll look better?

00:37:44It's not a bad thing, Karen.

00:37:46There's a bunch of mediocre white men in the building that get promoted all the time.

00:37:52Who cares why we move up as well as we're moving up?

00:37:54I care, Phil.

00:37:56Because I don't want to be walking around this office with men thinking that I'm a fraud with a bit of tits.

00:38:00No one thinks that, Karen.

00:38:02Oh, Jesus.

00:38:04Everyone knows you're a good detective.

00:38:06And a walking, talking PR win for the service.

00:38:09Look, I'm not the enemy here, Karen.

00:38:12No.

00:38:13But you still agree with them.

00:38:30What the files won't tell you, but Facebook will, is that PC Janice Hogg married Colin Duff in 2001.

00:38:42PC Hogg is in from this investigation.

00:38:44The one that found Rosie.

00:38:46And Rosie's brother.

00:38:48Small towns are small tics.

00:38:51Murder cases aren't very sensitive.

00:38:54They moved into the old Duff family home after Rosie's dad died.

00:38:59Hello.

00:39:00Janice.

00:39:01Oh, no.

00:39:02Oh, what have my boys done there?

00:39:04It's, er...

00:39:05It isn't about your boys, Archie.

00:39:06May we come in?

00:39:07Aye.

00:39:08Aye, of course.

00:39:09Come on.

00:39:10Come on.

00:39:11Come on.

00:39:12I'll be back.

00:39:13Come on.

00:39:14Come on.

00:39:15Come on.

00:39:16Come on.

00:39:17Come on.

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00:39:32Come on.

00:39:33Come on.

00:39:34Come on.

00:39:35Come on.

00:39:36To your coffee?

00:39:37No.

00:39:39Come on.

00:39:40Come on.

00:39:41Come on.

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00:40:00Come on.

00:40:01Come on.

00:40:02Come on.

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00:40:14Come on.

00:40:15What's that baby?

00:40:16What this happened to a poor baby?

00:40:19It's no your fault Archie.

00:40:21It's no...

00:40:23She'd know that.

00:40:27We've detained three people for questioning.

00:40:30Who?

00:40:31I can't tell you any more than that at this stage.

00:40:33You have to.

00:40:34Who?

00:40:35I promise I will keep you updated as and when.

00:40:37Who?

00:40:39I promise I will keep you updated as and when.

00:40:43Update us now!

00:40:45If you don't, we'll find out somehow.

00:40:47Darling!

00:40:53Just let Barney do his job.

00:40:59Colin, we're gonna want to talk to you and Brian about where you were last night.

00:41:05What do you mean?

00:41:06We'd just like your recollections from the night.

00:41:10You gonna make us go through all this again?

00:41:13I'm sorry, I wish I didn't have to.

00:41:22Started in the pub, both of us.

00:41:24Rosie was behind the bar.

00:41:27She left at some point and...

00:41:30and we never noticed.

00:41:32Brian went off with some girl.

00:41:40Said he'd come back and get us after he was done.

00:41:45When the pub emptied out, that's when I noticed she wasn't there.

00:41:47I asked Iona where she'd gone.

00:41:52She said she didn't know.

00:41:54Maybe she'd popped out.

00:41:57What time was it?

00:42:00About half two.

00:42:02Iona gave us the keys and said I could wait in the pub until Brian or Rosie turned up.

00:42:14Only they never did.

00:42:16I fell asleep in this girl's bed.

00:42:20I wish I had no.

00:42:22Every day I wish I had no.

00:42:25I wish I'd never gone well.

00:42:29How long were you no heads?

00:42:32Till he in the morning.

00:42:34Came back to your dad crying.

00:42:36Never seen him cry before.

00:42:39Iona said that Rosie went to meet someone.

00:42:42But didn't know who.

00:42:44We know who it was.

00:42:46You do?

00:42:47Of course we do.

00:42:48I saw him talking to her that night.

00:42:50Little dark haired one.

00:42:51Pathetic.

00:42:53Ziggy Malkovich.

00:42:55He was inviting her to the pub.

00:42:57I know.

00:42:58I know.

00:42:59I know.

00:43:00I know.

00:43:01I know.

00:43:02I know.

00:43:03I know.

00:43:04I know.

00:43:05I know.

00:43:06Ziggy Malkovich.

00:43:07He was inviting her to the party.

00:43:10Wait.

00:43:12Why am I explaining this to you?

00:43:15You know all this.

00:43:16It's in the files.

00:43:17It's been there for 25 years.

00:43:19We're going to talk to Dr. Malkovich as soon as we can.

00:43:27Mr. Duff.

00:43:28We noticed from the forensic reports that Rosie had a cesarean scar on her stomach.

00:43:34Did Rosie have a child?

00:43:35I don't see how this is relevant.

00:43:36There just wasn't much information on the reports.

00:43:38All right.

00:43:39That's enough.

00:43:40Time to go.

00:43:41Colin.

00:43:42They don't know what they're doing.

00:43:43I'm sorry, Mr. Duff.

00:43:44Go on.

00:43:45Get out.

00:43:46Get out of my house!

00:43:50We're sorry to have taken up so much of your time.

00:43:52Call the pathologist, Jan.

00:43:53Damn to expedite the post-mortem.

00:43:54We've got to let those boys go in a few hours.

00:43:55We need every bit of help we can get.

00:43:56Here's Pity.

00:43:57Here's Pity.

00:43:58Sorry.

00:43:59The baby didn't survive.

00:44:00A day or two, maybe.

00:44:01Oh.

00:44:02Oh.

00:44:03I'm sorry.

00:44:04The father was a local boy.

00:44:05John Stobie.

00:44:06Just some kid from a class at school.

00:44:07Did you ever take a look into him?

00:44:08No.

00:44:09No.

00:44:10No.

00:44:11No.

00:44:12No.

00:44:13No.

00:44:14No.

00:44:15No.

00:44:16No.

00:44:17No.

00:44:18No.

00:44:19No.

00:44:20No.

00:44:21No.

00:44:22No.

00:44:23No.

00:44:24No.

00:44:25No.

00:44:26No.

00:44:27No.

00:44:28No.

00:44:29No.

00:44:30No.

00:44:31No.

00:44:32No.

00:44:33No.

00:44:34No.

00:44:35No.

00:44:36No.

00:44:37No.

00:44:38There's the university somewhere, I think.

00:44:41It had nothing to do with it.

00:44:41It's a dead end.

00:44:45Thanks, Janis.

00:44:47I appreciate it.

00:45:02Well, I didn't quite soil myself, but I was close.

00:45:16Call Register House, will you?

00:45:19See if you can get a birth certificate for Rosie's baby.

00:45:22And a death certificate too.

00:45:24We need to know what happened.

00:45:27And see if you can track down a John Stobie.

00:45:32I'm in now.

00:45:36Yeah, sorry. I'm sweating for my heart rate to come down.

00:45:47Dr. Markovic.

00:45:49DS Karen Perry.

00:45:53Do you like a drink, Karen?

00:45:56Surgery always makes me thirsty.

00:45:59Sure.

00:46:02I'm sorry.

00:46:04Just, you're in there, uh, six, eight hours and the focus gets you through, but then you come out and you realise you haven't eaten anything since last night and you can't remember the last time you had a glass of water.

00:46:16Oh.

00:46:18I'd be a bit worried if my surgeon was that dehydrated.

00:46:21Well, if I pass out, they'll just stick an IV straight into me.

00:46:24It's a joke.

00:46:28I know what I'm doing in there.

00:46:31Hi.

00:46:33You haven't returned any of my calls.

00:46:35Well, I don't really have to talk to you.

00:46:37This is just a courtesy.

00:46:38Well then, I will offer you a courtesy right back.

00:46:42I've been listening to your initial interview from 1996.

00:46:45I wanted to give you the opportunity to add anything you may have missed out.

00:46:49Missed out?

00:46:51Well, it's been a long time.

00:46:53Perspective can change things.

00:46:55No, nothing's changed.

00:46:57You stand by your testimony.

00:46:59You saw Rosie in the pub and then you found her at the cathedral.

00:47:02That's right.

00:47:05I've been speaking to the Duff brothers.

00:47:06Well, you can immediately discount anything they have to say.

00:47:09That's very convenient.

00:47:10They seem pretty sure you were involved with their sister.

00:47:12They're a pair of vicious thugs.

00:47:15Rosie was terrified of them.

00:47:16They controlled her life.

00:47:17And how do you know that?

00:47:18Well, everyone knew that.

00:47:22Right.

00:47:25But you did know her, didn't you?

00:47:26You were seeing her, weren't you?

00:47:28I'm gay, detective.

00:47:31Married now.

00:47:32Happily, to a man.

00:47:37You ever have relationships with women?

00:47:40Well, there was a time when I was working myself out.

00:47:42Rosie involved in that?

00:47:43No.

00:47:47You know, I don't think I want to talk to you anymore.

00:47:51Not without a lawyer.

00:48:26I'll get a bit more of a week, we can see him in the front.

00:48:56Right, nothing incriminating in the student's house or the party house.

00:49:12And all three boys are maintaining their innocence.

00:49:15You don't think we have enough to charge?

00:49:17No, not yet.

00:49:19Release them, but we'll keep our eyes on them.

00:49:21Sir, how can we release them?

00:49:23They are still under investigation, Janice.

00:49:26We've got to let them go.

00:49:56Registered house just sent over a birth certificate for Rosie's baby.

00:50:21Is there a father in there?

00:50:22Pretty no.

00:50:27Orla Rose Duff, born August 21st, 93.

00:50:33No dad.

00:50:34Zoom in to that part.

00:50:52Adopted?

00:50:53Who can she be adopted if she only lived a day or two?

00:50:55Maybe she didn't die.

00:51:01But that means Rosie lied to everyone.

00:51:05Why?

00:51:16B.S.

00:51:16Karen Perry.

00:51:17Hi.

00:51:18Don't stop here.

00:51:21I mean, I knew her.

00:51:24We were friends when we were away.

00:51:27You never had a relationship with her?

00:51:29Not even close.

00:51:31We used to walk home from school together.

00:51:33Sometimes that was the extent of it.

00:51:37Did you ever sleep with her?

00:51:39Never.

00:51:39Is this from her brothers?

00:51:54I don't really know where it came from or why.

00:51:59I just remember one day they were waiting outside school for me.

00:52:06Followed me halfway home.

00:52:10Then, when there was no one around,

00:52:13they jumped me.

00:52:16Battered me.

00:52:19Black and blue.

00:52:21Did they say why?

00:52:22They said I'd slept with Rosie.

00:52:27Got her pregnant.

00:52:30Wouldn't believe me when I said it wasn't true.

00:52:32Did you talk to Rosie about it?

00:52:35I stayed far away from her after that.

00:52:40They broke my nose.

00:52:43Collarbone.

00:52:46Couple of ribs.

00:52:50I'm so sorry.

00:52:51It's a long time ago now.

00:52:56I have always wondered, though.

00:52:59Why me?

00:53:02Why did she tell them it was me?

00:53:07It sounds as though she was protecting someone else.

00:53:21I am a demon.

00:53:21Why did she tell her?

00:53:25Please?

00:53:29Please.

00:53:31Please?

00:53:39Please.

00:53:44You came.

00:53:45Yeah.

00:53:48Yeah.

00:53:49What was it?

00:53:53Did you dream I cheated on you or did you leave by a gun?

00:53:57No.

00:54:01It would be so much worse.

00:54:05Everything's going to be okay.

00:54:10Say it again.

00:54:12Everything is going to be okay.

00:54:28Sir?

00:54:30Sir?

00:54:33Thanks for taking the time.

00:54:35Not at all. I've been looking forward to meeting you, Cal.

00:54:40DCS Lawson was there the first time around, so it'll be an invaluable source for you.

00:54:46Thank you, sir.

00:54:49Rosie's baby.

00:54:50Getting straight into it, I see.

00:54:51There's barely any mention of it in the files.

00:54:54There's a brief reference to it in the post-mortem, but no further details.

00:54:58Why?

00:54:59Well, D.I. McLennan was very good friends with Rosie's father, Archie.

00:55:04He wanted to keep out the reports as much as possible.

00:55:06Well, she was 15 when she got pregnant.

00:55:10He didn't want people finding out, judging her for being so young.

00:55:14Right.

00:55:16Why wouldn't you look into who the father was?

00:55:18The family answered that for me.

00:55:20John Stobbe?

00:55:21A local boy, as far as I remember.

00:55:25Rosie told her family the baby died.

00:55:28It didn't.

00:55:30There's no death certificate.

00:55:32We've checked.

00:55:33It was adopted.

00:55:40And that local boy, I've spoken to him.

00:55:42He can't be the father because he never slept with her.

00:55:44How do you know he's telling the truth?

00:55:46Have you looked into him as a suspect?

00:55:47He's got a solid alibi for the night she died.

00:55:49He was away at Leeds at university.

00:55:51There's no way he could have killed her.

00:55:53And the important thing here is...

00:55:54Our child is still alive.

00:55:56And we don't know who the father was.

00:55:57No.

00:55:58I don't think that's important.

00:55:59A relationship from three years previous.

00:56:01How's it connected?

00:56:02The lies?

00:56:04Why would she hate it?

00:56:05Because she was 15, that's why.

00:56:06Why would you cover up who the father was?

00:56:08Maybe he was 17.

00:56:09And knew the family would press charges.

00:56:11We should be looking into that.

00:56:12I'd like to go to child services.

00:56:14Hang on a second.

00:56:14That way, I can trace the child.

00:56:16These things are sensitive.

00:56:17I can ask her to take a DNA test.

00:56:18The Duff family would strongly disagree with that, I would say.

00:56:19And in that way, I could probably find the father.

00:56:21Piri!

00:56:21Tracing adopted children should always, always be the last resort.

00:56:29We can't just go marching into people's lives causing chaos.

00:56:32These things, they have to be properly considered.

00:56:35This person could be living a perfectly happy life,

00:56:37completely unaware that their birth mother was murdered,

00:56:39and that that murder remains unsolved.

00:56:42But, Zach...

00:56:42No.

00:56:46No.

00:56:47We are already under the microscope.

00:56:49Anything we do, any slip-up, it'll be...

00:56:51podcasted and bloody message-forummed all over the internet.

00:56:54Oh, sir, that's...

00:56:54Well, Lisa's right.

00:56:56Karen, we have to tread gently.

00:56:59Well, it's good to know that we have that option,

00:57:01should all other avenues be exhausted.

00:57:06Have you considered the possibility

00:57:08that one of the students could have been the father?

00:57:10They weren't in St Andrew's yet?

00:57:11No.

00:57:12But two of them lived in Kirkcaldy.

00:57:15Only half an hour away.

00:57:16And they were older than her.

00:57:17As Lee says,

00:57:19that would give her a good reason to hide it.

00:57:24I'll look into it, sir.

00:57:27Do.

00:57:30Good work, Sergeant.

00:57:31We could have done with some of that thinking first time around.

00:57:34All right, quick as you can.

00:57:45I've been hassling forensics for the report.

00:57:48Any luck?

00:57:48Not yet, but they've given us a heads up.

00:57:50They found a certain type of fibre all over Rosie's clothes.

00:57:53It needs further tests,

00:57:54but they reckon they're from carpet and found in a car.

00:57:57What, over everything?

00:57:57She was lying on the carpet, probably in the boot.

00:58:05She was moved.

00:58:08Do the students have any access to a vehicle?

00:58:10I can find out.

00:58:15We need to move the car.

00:58:17How are we going to do that?

00:58:19They're going to be watching us.

00:58:21We don't know that.

00:58:22That's what they do.

00:58:23They monitor you.

00:58:23It's not worth the risk that we just got out.

00:58:25Yeah, but think about how bad it would be if they find it.

00:58:27Where did you leave it, Weird?

00:58:40I'm not sure.

00:58:42How can you not be sure?

00:58:44I was off my face, Ziggy.

00:58:45You shouldn't have been driving.

00:58:46Jeez, arrest me.

00:58:52Right, the girl.

00:58:53The one you're driving home.

00:58:55Where does she live?

00:58:57We'll call her.

00:58:58I can't.

00:58:59They'll be listening on the phone.

00:59:00Don't be stupid!

00:59:01And I don't have her number.

00:59:02Where are the keys?

00:59:03I think I left them in there.

00:59:05Right, so that's one smart thing that you did.

00:59:06I just want to go home.

00:59:19But they said that we can go back to Kirkcaldy.

00:59:23You can go to Weird's.

00:59:25And I'll stay here tonight.

00:59:26And do what?

00:59:27I'll go out after dark to find the car.

00:59:29And I'll move it.

00:59:30I'll take it back.

00:59:38Did you hear about that case?

00:59:40Where someone threw a brick off an overpass and it smashed through the windscreen and killed the driver?

00:59:44No.

00:59:44What?

00:59:45They found traces of DNA on the brick and then they traced him through an Ancestry website.

00:59:50Oh.

00:59:51And didn't you?

00:59:51No.

00:59:52Go on some dates?

00:59:52No.

00:59:53With that guy from that site.

00:59:54What was his name?

00:59:54Rob and I am not going back there.

00:59:57Hear me out.

00:59:58Rosie lied by who the father of her baby was.

01:00:01That means there's a story there.

01:00:03Something is up.

01:00:05But Lise and Lossom won't let me go to child services to find out where she is.

01:00:09So you want to go to what'smyheritage.com?

01:00:11That's what it's called.

01:00:14I know it sounds mad.

01:00:16But loads of people use them now.

01:00:17And they have these huge DNA banks that might be bigger than the police's.

01:00:22I don't see how this connects.

01:00:23Say you're adopted.

01:00:25Like Rosie's child was.

01:00:26Because you'd probably be quite interested in finding out who your long lost family were.

01:00:31You'd sign up to a site like that and send in your DNA.

01:00:34So you want to send Rosie's DNA in?

01:00:37Yeah.

01:00:38See if there's any matches.

01:00:40If I can find the kids, then I can find the father, Rosie's ex.

01:00:43Then I can find out what Rosie was hiding.

01:00:46The only problem is, they don't open up their databases to just anyone.

01:00:51No.

01:00:52Oh, come on.

01:00:53I thought you liked Rob.

01:00:54I did, if anything, too much.

01:00:56It was intense.

01:01:00Doesn't say bad.

01:01:02He sexted me all the time, non-stop.

01:01:04I honestly ran out of things to say.

01:01:08I ran out of...

01:01:10angles.

01:01:12It was exhausting.

01:01:13It had to end.

01:01:14Come on, take one for the team.

01:01:16It's poking a bear, Karen.

01:01:18It's a horny bear.

01:01:20Okay.

01:01:22Will you just think about it?

01:01:23Fine.

01:01:25I mean, I do feel for you, this podcast lady.

01:01:27What do you mean?

01:01:28On Twitter.

01:01:29She's always riling everyone up.

01:01:30Look at this.

01:01:31Fife police.

01:01:33Victim shaming.

01:01:34A video.

01:01:35What video?

01:01:37In light of these events, I would like to ask the women, particularly the young women,

01:01:44of St Andrews and the surrounding areas, to be particularly vigilant.

01:01:48I would also advise against venturing outdoors alone after dark.

01:01:53And you should also make sure that someone knows where you are at all times.

01:01:56If at any point you feel threatened or see anything out of the ordinary, please contact

01:02:02the police straight away.

01:02:04Any further questions?

01:02:06Your warning implies that it's up to the women of St Andrews to keep themselves safe.

01:02:11I just want to take any measures we can, combined with excellent policing,

01:02:15to keep our daughters, granddaughters, sisters, out of harm's way.

01:02:22You detained three people and have since released them.

01:02:24Is that not putting the women of this town in more danger?

01:02:26As is law in Scotland, an arrest cannot be made without sufficient evidence.

01:02:31Inquiries are ongoing.

01:02:32Can you reveal their names?

01:02:33Not until they are charged, if they are charged.

01:02:36So you'll protect them, but not the women of St Andrews?

01:02:38We are doing everything in our power to bring Rosie's killer to justice.

01:02:42If anyone out there knows anything, anything at all,

01:02:45please do not hesitate to get in touch.

01:02:47We are going to be right.

01:02:48We are going to be right.

01:02:50We are going to be right.

01:02:51We are going to be right.

01:02:52We are going to be right.

01:02:53We are going to be right.

01:02:54We are going to be right.

01:02:55We are going to be right.

01:02:56We are going to be right.

01:02:57We are going to be right.

01:02:58We are going to be right.

01:02:59We are going to be right.

01:03:00We are going to be right.

01:03:01We are going to be right.

01:03:02We are going to be right.

01:03:03We are going to be right.

01:03:04We are going to be right.

01:03:05We are going to be right.

01:03:06We are going to be right.

01:03:07We are going to be right.

01:03:08We are going to be right.

01:03:09We are going to be right.

01:03:10We are going to be right.

01:03:11We are going to be right.

01:03:12Apparently all the rooms have Jacuzzi baths.

01:03:35Heard McGinn, Marie.

01:03:37Are you looking for me?

01:03:42Bell Richmond.

01:03:43What so? You don't look like golf tourists.

01:03:46D.S. Perry. This is D.C. Murray.

01:03:49An expensive place to stay for a couple of weeks.

01:03:52Yeah, I'm lucky.

01:03:53They've been so supportive.

01:03:54The hotel.

01:03:55The chain.

01:03:56They sponsor us.

01:03:58Great business op.

01:03:59Dead girl.

01:04:01Oh, this is off the record, by the way.

01:04:04I won't use any of it on the podcast.

01:04:06That's right.

01:04:15I just need to be sure.

01:04:17Yeah.

01:04:18I'm delighted you're reopening the case.

01:04:20Oh, you are?

01:04:21Oh.

01:04:22Seems skeptical of the police on the podcast.

01:04:25Have to ask questions.

01:04:26Sometimes those questions aren't very helpful.

01:04:29Well, I think the Duff family want them answered.

01:04:34Can't stop your reporting.

01:04:36We both know that.

01:04:37Why would you?

01:04:38Think the pressure helped?

01:04:39I'm very sure of your opinions.

01:04:41You can't think the original investigation was well run.

01:04:44I don't think you know much about the original investigation.

01:04:47I know.

01:04:48They haven't re-examined the case for a quarter of a century.

01:04:53Not only are they supposed to review these things every few years.

01:04:58Why didn't they?

01:04:59Until I came along?

01:05:03Mistakes were made.

01:05:05I am correcting them now.

01:05:07Well, I'd like to help you.

01:05:11I have done a lot of research.

01:05:15Spent weeks on working hands and knees in people's attics,

01:05:19going through old boxes of photos, yearbooks,

01:05:22tracked down friends of Rosie's.

01:05:24Well, we'll take a look at all of that.

01:05:26Oh, no, I'm not sure of that.

01:05:28You wouldn't want to withhold evidence, would you?

01:05:34No, of course not.

01:05:41Great.

01:05:50Great.

01:05:51Jesus Christ.

01:05:53I need to protect my sources,

01:05:55so you won't be able to take any of it away with you.

01:05:57I'll have to supervise.

01:06:01Yeah, no problem.

01:06:04Mario's there.

01:06:05Hey, so...

01:06:09Can I just have a minute with you, Soge?

01:06:20You camera serious?

01:06:21We need to know what she has,

01:06:22so we can be one step ahead.

01:06:23She's got 18 boxes of flipping nothing.

01:06:25Well, then, you've had a nice date in a hotel room,

01:06:27with a charming lady.

01:06:28You're not staying?

01:06:29No.

01:06:30I'll kill her.

01:06:31Oh, she's going to grill me all day.

01:06:33And you can't say a thing?

01:06:34Oh, you'll call me.

01:06:35Correct.

01:06:39Oh, Murray!

01:06:41Don't get in the jacuzzi bath.

01:06:46The person you've called is not available.

01:06:48Please leave your waiting card.

01:06:51Hi, Mr Mackey.

01:06:52This is DS Karen Perry here again.

01:06:54I'm just wondering if we can get a moment of your time.

01:06:56I want to let you know we're re-examining the Rosie Duff case,

01:06:59and I'd like to speak to you about your recollections of that.

01:07:03Oh.

01:07:04Yeah, I'm just wondering,

01:07:04I didn't even know if that's what I needed to do.

01:07:05OK.

01:07:06Yeah.

01:07:08OK.

01:07:10OK.

01:07:11I want to get along.

01:07:13Oh, oh.

01:07:14Hi.

01:07:15Hi.

01:07:16Sorry.

01:07:17I'm not getting along,

01:07:18but I'm not getting along.

01:07:19No, no, no, no, no.

01:07:20I'm not getting along.

01:07:22You're not having a look.

01:07:23I don't know.

01:07:24No, no, no, yes.

01:07:25I'm not getting along.

01:07:26I'm getting along all the way too.

01:07:27Oh, no, no, no.

01:07:28So would you like to have a look at your baby?

01:07:58Look after yourself, okay?

01:08:05I'll be back in Kirkcaldy tomorrow.

01:08:08Love you, bro.

01:08:28I'll be back in Kirkcaldy tomorrow.

01:08:52So why this case?

01:09:12Anyway, it doesn't sound like you're from round here.

01:09:14I went to St Andrews.

01:09:18People would always talk about it, you know.

01:09:21Someone knew someone who knew Rosie.

01:09:23Someone's girlfriend was living in a three-students' house.

01:09:26Someone had a rumour about who really did it.

01:09:28She was that, then.

01:09:31You could save me some time.

01:09:33Trust me, I went down those roads, so I didn't need anywhere.

01:09:40So...

01:09:41Why podcasting, then? What got you into that?

01:09:44Are you asking me questions so I don't ask anything of you?

01:09:48Yeah.

01:09:49Absolutely.

01:09:50Mmm.

01:09:51Sneaky.

01:09:52Doesn't mean I'm not interested.

01:09:55Uh...

01:09:57It's just a really direct way of telling a story.

01:10:02Yeah, I like that people who maybe wouldn't read the paper or a long piece online might tune in.

01:10:08Well, I guess that's me, then.

01:10:10I'll listen to it in the gym.

01:10:11As long as you're listening, I don't mind where.

01:10:18Okay, my turn.

01:10:20What sort of physical evidence?

01:10:22No, no, no.

01:10:23No.

01:10:24Gonna have to try harder than that.

01:10:32Mr Gilday.

01:10:33Hi.

01:10:34Just thought I'd try you again.

01:10:35It's D.S.

01:10:36Karen Perry here.

01:10:37Would really appreciate a chat, if possible.

01:10:41Uh, you can...

01:10:43You can find me on this number.

01:10:45Thanks.

01:10:46Celebration?

01:10:47Uh, sort of.

01:10:48Yeah.

01:10:49I spoke to Lawson, and he's moving me up to murder squad.

01:10:58That's great.

01:11:03I'm sorry, KP.

01:11:19I'm an asshole.

01:11:23Yeah.

01:11:24I found it out for you.

01:11:28Yeah, and you used to like it.

01:11:31Okay, Phil.

01:11:33Have you got time for a drink?

01:11:35Now?

01:11:39No.

01:11:41Not really.

01:11:42Gonna have to drink this all by myself, which...

01:11:46is a bit sad.

01:11:49Yeah.

01:11:52I'll see you around.

01:12:00I'll see you.

01:12:01Yeah.

01:12:03Good.

01:12:05Thud.

01:12:10Yeah.

01:12:12Yeah.

01:12:13Yeah.

01:12:15Yeah.

01:12:16Yeah.

01:12:18Yeah.

01:12:19Yeah.

01:12:20Yeah.

01:12:22Yeah.

01:12:25Yeah.

01:12:27It's starting again, the questions from the police, the press attention, the looks, the

01:12:56whispers and it's worse this time because there's the internet.

01:13:05I think we need to do this differently this time.

01:13:14What do you mean by that?

01:13:18I think we need to tell them the truth.

01:13:20You started this, Ziggy.

01:13:22Which is why I'm the one suggesting that we come clean.

01:13:25No.

01:13:26Not after all this time.

01:13:27I can't eat.

01:13:28I can't sleep.

01:13:29I keep on running and running thinking it's going to clear my head.

01:13:32I'm cracking up.

01:13:33We're all cracking up, Ziggy.

01:13:34Yes, but my job needs me lucid.

01:13:36There won't be me work in prison.

01:13:41We've all got responsibilities.

01:13:43We've all got something to lose.

01:13:44I've got a baby on the way.

01:13:49We made promises to each other and we can't go back on them now.

01:13:56It will pass.

01:13:57Alex, I...

01:13:58It will pass.

01:13:59You did before.

01:14:00Hold the course.

01:14:01You stick to the story.

01:14:02I...

01:14:03I just...

01:14:04I don't think I can.

01:14:06Were you better, Ziggy?

01:14:07Okay.

01:14:08Were you better, Ziggy?

01:14:09Okay.

01:14:10Okay.

01:14:11No.

01:14:12No.

01:14:13No.

01:14:14No.

01:14:15No.

01:14:16That thing.

01:14:17I don't think I can.

01:14:26Were you better, Ziggy?

01:14:28Okay.

01:14:46I think it's time to start drinking.

01:14:59I'm technically on the clock.

01:15:01Oh, come on.

01:15:02And I'm driving.

01:15:04You're shut enough to pop.

01:15:13One can't hurt.

01:15:15Thanks.

01:15:16I know your plan.

01:15:23Get me drunk.

01:15:24Lock the door.

01:15:26Torture me until I tell you something you don't already know.

01:15:30Is it so bad to want to enjoy a glass of wine with our work?

01:15:34It's heavy stuff.

01:15:35Where are these from?

01:15:38Oh, another student.

01:15:40There's a couple of boys in there, but nothing like this.

01:15:42Take this.

01:15:44Wait, what?

01:15:44I'm sorry. Thank you for the wine.

01:15:46No, wait, what?

01:15:47Who's pie is this?

01:16:10Toad of toad holes.

01:16:12Some fourth year's found it and apparently no day lives here.

01:16:15So, it's Zola!

01:16:20Oh, boy!

01:16:25Hey, drink some water, man.

01:16:28Oh, Dorothy's all right, eh?

01:16:30That one looks a bit like Rosie.

01:16:31Maybe chew some gum.

01:16:32Maybe chew some gum.

01:16:33I'm gonna chew a half.

01:16:34You're a lucky girl.

01:16:38Come on!

01:16:41Come on, come on.

01:16:42No, no, no, no, no.

01:16:43Come on!

01:16:44Come on!

01:16:45Come on!

01:16:46Come on!

01:16:47Come on!

01:16:49Come on!

01:16:51Come on!

01:16:53Come on!

01:16:54Come on!

01:17:04Come on!

01:17:06Come on!

01:17:07Come on!

01:17:08Hey!

01:17:18You came? You all right?

01:17:22I've got to say something.

01:17:25You need to stop messing around.

01:17:28You're either in it, or you're not.

01:17:33And if you're not, then go and do one, Rosie.

01:17:38Watch out!

01:18:03Sarge!

01:18:05Sarge!

01:18:07I tried to call. Didn't pick up. It was kind of urgent, though.

01:18:11They lied. She was at the party with Ziggy.

01:18:16Where did this come from?

01:18:18Another student. Belle didn't think they were useful.

01:18:29Smells good.

01:18:30Where you been?

01:18:31Oh, you know, surgery ran over.

01:18:33Complications.

01:18:34Go okay in the end?

01:18:35Yeah. It was fine.

01:18:38Ah, no. No, you're not running now.

01:18:41My mind's going.

01:18:42No, come on. Sit down. Talk to me.

01:18:43I've got to, okay? It's...

01:18:45It's the only thing keeping me sane at the minute.

01:18:48Do you really think it's keeping you sane?

01:18:55Okay.

01:18:57But we're eating dinner together afterwards, though. No phones.

01:19:02But you must remember something about where you left it.

01:19:05We can at least try, weird. It's a frickin' car, not a contact line.

01:19:10All right.

01:19:14All right.

01:19:14All right. I'm going to go.

01:19:22No. No.

01:19:24No, the pig's right at the front.

01:19:27Yeah, I'll go out the back.

01:19:29They won't see me.

01:19:31All right.

01:19:34All right. Bye.

01:19:35Bye.

01:19:35You haven't said in about 20 minutes, Cole.

01:19:59There's no much to say.

01:20:09I know.

01:20:11I know.

01:20:29I just want to hurt something!

01:20:40I know where they live.

01:20:44The three they caught.

01:20:46I saw them going home.

01:20:48Why didn't you tell me earlier?

01:20:50Get in the car.

01:20:51Cole, that was one of them.

01:21:13No, it wasn't.

01:21:13See, I told you.

01:21:30You one of them?

01:21:31Yes, Donny.

01:21:31I swear.

01:21:32Have you seen them in the pub talking to her?

01:21:33Hey, let me head.

01:21:36Come here!

01:21:37Come here!

01:21:37Get off!

01:21:44Get in!

01:21:45Get in!

01:21:46You're in!

01:21:47Stop!

01:21:48You're in!

01:21:48Go, Donny!

01:21:49Go!

01:21:52This is huge.

01:21:54I asked him yesterday, to his face,

01:21:56do you want to change your story?

01:21:57And he said, nope.

01:21:59You saw her at the pub, and then the cathedral.

01:22:01But now we know she was at the party with him.

01:22:04McClellan was right.

01:22:05Her brothers were right.

01:22:05He's been lying, all this time.

01:22:09And finally, we've caught him in it.

01:22:16You knew my sister!

01:22:18No!

01:22:18Don't lie to me!

01:22:20You used to see you hanging around in Lamas Bar.

01:22:22Saw you taunt her, you and your pals!

01:22:23I can't breathe!

01:22:24Did you go and meet you, Steve?

01:22:25Stop!

01:22:26See, I don't believe you.

01:22:27What are you thinking, then?

01:22:29Tell me to tell the truth.

01:22:30I can't...

01:22:31Every time you do that, she gets worse from you!

01:22:42Please, please, stop!

01:22:44Stop!

01:22:45Stop!

01:22:46Stop!

01:22:47I claim it, or I will kill you.

01:22:50I don't care anymore.

01:22:52We lost Rosie.

01:22:55Rosie's dead.

01:22:56Bottle dungeon.

01:23:04Always wonder if it was down there.

01:23:15I did warn you.

01:23:15No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:23:22Tell me what happened, and I'll let you go.

01:23:25I've told you everything.

01:23:26Why are you still lying to me?

01:23:31Hold on to me, Tony.

01:23:32Why do you think I'm lying?

01:23:33Did I have you on the air covered in a blight?

01:23:37You killed her.

01:23:38No, I swear, I swear.

01:23:40No!

01:23:45You killed her.

01:23:49You killed her.

01:23:50I died.

01:23:54I was dead.

01:23:54Falling膚, you killed her.

01:23:55F paying her.

01:24:05I was dead.

01:24:06You killed her.

01:24:07I was wounded.

01:24:08I got me on the air covered.

01:24:10I was restoration.

01:24:11What the hell?

01:24:13I kept working, Slowak,

01:24:14late!

01:24:15Stay on the air letzten,

01:24:15D.S. Karen Perry, this is D.C. Murray.

01:24:24What's going on?

01:24:25Head and run.

01:24:26White mail, Alan Fortis.

01:24:27Can we approach?

01:24:28No.

01:24:28D.S. Karen Perry, this is a pretty serious crime.

01:24:46Do you have an ID on this victim?

01:24:47Sure.

01:24:49Yeah.

01:24:52Is he injured?

01:24:53No, he's...

01:24:55He's dead.

01:24:58Trauma can have a ripple effect.

01:25:07At the center is the victim.

01:25:11The individual who has directly experienced the traumatic event and may or may not be physically injured.

01:25:24Then, moving outward, there are the grieving relatives.

01:25:28The friends and the colleagues of the victim.

01:25:38Or those who were at close physical proximity to the event.

01:25:46At the next level are the rescue and recovery teams.

01:25:54The fire service, the paramedics, the police.

01:26:01And the ripples continue, onwards and outwards, unless something changes.

01:26:08Because trauma needs to be processed.

01:26:13Wounds need to heal.

01:26:15Victims need answers.

01:26:17Or the pain and disruption.

01:26:19It carries on.

01:26:20It carries on.

01:26:26My main suspect is dead.

01:26:28What you need to do right now, Alex, is answer our questions, honestly.

01:26:36Rosie was in the car's beard that night.

01:26:45Who was she there to see?

01:26:48I already turned my head.

01:26:50I'll kill you with my bare hands.

01:26:52Colin, your alibi for the time of Rosie's murder isn't solid.

01:26:56You don't think that I'm feeling some consequences?

01:26:59I felt like I needed to do something.

01:27:04They posted pictures of Ziggy and Weird.

01:27:06They've been named on the internet.

01:27:07So their identities are out there.

01:27:10You have sabotaged this case so profoundly that I am in one mind to take you up it completely.

01:27:22We were young.

01:27:24We were drunk.

01:27:25We were drunk.

01:27:55We were drunk.

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