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00:00:00Tell me the truth.
00:00:30Oh good morning someone's keen I tried to call first it was a long shower what's going on Tom
00:00:54Mackey has overdosed what dead no but hospitalized there was a break-in to at
00:01:04the same time yeah I'm going over there now to Glasgow right well I'm coming with
00:01:10you just let me put some clothes on you don't want to go like that
00:01:24some footprints in the grass I'm in the soil at the back residential seat back
00:01:36there we had a look for cameras couldn't see anybody we'll do another scan we
00:01:44should have arrested him yesterday this wouldn't have happened we didn't have
00:01:48enough do you think we pushed him to this might not have been intentional they're
00:01:58even self-inflicted what you mean that's quite a coincidence isn't it an overdose
00:02:04and a break-in at the same time was someone trying to kill him and make it
00:02:08look like a suicide is that his mobile yep last calls were to the police his ex-wife
00:02:15felina and another name Alex gilby tell them as soon as mr. Mackey wakes up we want to
00:02:26speak to him
00:02:29have you heard from Tom
00:02:32no I thought you'd at least send a text you nearly died weird I'm done with this
00:02:40all of this made a pact a promise don't break that now what's in it for me here
00:02:47you two boys are the ones with all the secrets except the drugs and the car well
00:02:53they know about that now so but we still need to protect Alex Alex right it's all
00:03:00about Alex everyone loves Alex that's always been the problem wasn't it
00:03:07you know he's never gonna love you back right you think I'm stupid I didn't see
00:03:14what was going on the only reason you invited Rosie to that party was because
00:03:21you wanted to impress him what did you think would happen that he would
00:03:26suddenly realize you were the one all along I know Ziggy
00:03:33of course I know I was waiting for you to tell me but oh come on Ziggy don't leave
00:03:42what to do that for you're stringing him alone it's cruel we're friends weird and
00:03:53actually you're the one that's always baiting him teasing him then why aren't
00:03:58you told him about you and Lynn you've spent the whole summer talking to her well
00:04:05you don't want to break his heart there's nothing going on with me do you think I'm
00:04:08slow nothing happened stop lying to me Alex keeping it secret just like you
00:04:14kept you and Rosie secret stop it with everybody loves Alex it's all about Alex
00:04:20and look how that ends up okay just heard back from the lab no but yeah yes I
00:04:30mean yes what they find semen on the cuff of the cardigan
00:04:37what whose did they cross-check it with it's Alex Gilby's Alex Gilby's semen is on the
00:04:44cardigan Jesus Christ okay and we're coming back now I heard oh my god it was Alex she went to
00:04:54see the party and we have proof
00:05:01Alex Gilby I am arresting you under section one criminal justice Scotland act 2016 for the murder of
00:05:21Rosie Duff what you're not obliged to see anything but anything you do see
00:05:24will be noted and may be used in evidence I can't leave I've just had a baby
00:05:28please look I'll cooperate in any way you need but not this Alex please let them put the handcuffs
00:05:34on you we'll make sure your wife is okay what are you doing I'm sorry um it'll be okay
00:05:38this week you can't take him please Alex I'll be back
00:05:45you
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00:06:58what'd you do last night Alex
00:07:05last night
00:07:06you brought mr. Gilby in under charges relating to 1996
00:07:10why do you need to know about last night you don't need to answer I was at home
00:07:13did you leave the house at all no make any phone calls you took my phone so
00:07:18you'd have to check you spoke to Tom Mackey
00:07:21he's my friend
00:07:23what did you speak about
00:07:24what has that got to do with anything
00:07:26did you go over there and see Tom after your conversation last night Alex
00:07:29no
00:07:30why
00:07:33what's happened
00:07:38what's happened
00:07:39your friend has been admitted to hospital he's in a medically induced coma after mixing
00:07:49several anti-anxiety medications sleeping pills and alcohol
00:07:53you need to tell my wife then you need to tell her he's a brother your wife's been informed
00:07:59is he okay
00:08:06is he gonna be okay
00:08:08we don't know yet
00:08:10did you threaten Tom Mackey Alex
00:08:15what
00:08:16do you threaten him
00:08:17did you go over there and tell him not to talk to us
00:08:19no
00:08:20you were worried to tell us about your relationship with Rosie
00:08:23no
00:08:24we didn't have a relationship
00:08:30do you recognize that cardigan Alex
00:08:44do you recognize that cardigan Alex
00:08:49it was Rosie's
00:08:51she was wearing it the night she died but you knew that didn't you
00:08:54because you were with her
00:09:03there was so much of Rosie's blood on the cardigan
00:09:05that the amount of female DNA present massed
00:09:08a small amount of male DNA on the cuff
00:09:11they missed that in 1996 but we didn't
00:09:18the DNA is from Seaman Alex
00:09:20and it's a match for you
00:09:22I didn't kill her
00:09:34I didn't do anything to her
00:09:35I would never hurt her
00:09:36I couldn't have
00:09:37tell us what really happened Alex
00:09:39that's all we want
00:09:40you don't have to say anything
00:09:41if you didn't kill her Alex you must really want to know I did
00:09:54of course I do
00:09:55with this new evidence
00:09:56the best thing you can do is explain
00:09:58if you say nothing
00:10:00it will just look worse for you
00:10:02I was seeing her
00:10:16I was in love with her
00:10:17she didn't want anyone to know
00:10:19it was a secretive thing
00:10:21use the right notes to each other
00:10:24meet after a shift
00:10:28but in public
00:10:32she'd ignore me
00:10:35did that make you angry?
00:10:39no
00:10:40it made me sad
00:10:48like
00:10:51like I wasn't good enough
00:10:56speaking now
00:10:59where is he?
00:11:00he's a good guy
00:11:01I know he is
00:11:02why do you think of him?
00:11:03what's going on?
00:11:05just tell him all the way or nothing
00:11:07oh yeah
00:11:08oh yeah
00:11:16well he's protective
00:11:18don't worry
00:11:19don't
00:11:20don't listen to him
00:11:22I can't stay alone
00:11:23why did you come down then?
00:11:27to do that
00:11:28come inside
00:11:29I can't
00:11:30oh not yet
00:11:32I've got an idea
00:11:38I know I haven't been straight forward
00:11:55it's not because I changed my mind
00:11:57I've never changed my mind about you
00:11:59so what is it?
00:12:01is there someone else?
00:12:02no
00:12:03I feel like maybe I just have to get out of here
00:12:07I don't want to because you're here but I just feel so stuck
00:12:12in the pub
00:12:13and this town and my family
00:12:14can't they go anywhere?
00:12:16been other places though
00:12:17shut
00:12:18wait are we
00:12:32are we on again?
00:12:34or off?
00:12:36this feels like we're off
00:12:38I don't know
00:12:39aww
00:12:44I've got to go
00:12:45what kind of answer is that?
00:12:46what do you really need one?
00:12:52I'm starting to think you're ashamed of me
00:12:53no it's not that
00:12:55you don't want anyone to know about us
00:12:56won't be sitting with me
00:12:58say it's about your brothers
00:12:59your family won't approve
00:13:00it's not that
00:13:01why won't they approve of me?
00:13:02it's not about you
00:13:03it's about me
00:13:04are you sure?
00:13:06because it feels kind of racist you know?
00:13:09what?
00:13:10that prove to me that it's not
00:13:12take me home right now
00:13:13you don't know them at all
00:13:14what else am I supposed to think?
00:13:15you're supposed to listen to me
00:13:16and trust me when I say it's not that
00:13:18give me one good reason to trust you
00:13:19when you always disappear
00:13:21oh screw you
00:13:22see? there you go again
00:13:25screw you
00:13:30huh?
00:13:31I was the last time I saw her
00:13:38and then she walked off into town at 2am
00:13:42did you follow her?
00:13:45no
00:13:48I wish I did
00:13:51I wish I begged her to stay
00:13:54I wish I held on to her
00:13:56why didn't you tell the police any of this?
00:13:58because we made a decision
00:13:59well
00:14:01Ziggy made a decision
00:14:03he knew about Rosie and me
00:14:04he knew how bad it looked
00:14:05he told you to lie
00:14:08he saw how the police treated me
00:14:10no
00:14:11he saw the way they
00:14:12grabbed hold of me
00:14:13when they arrested us
00:14:14get off
00:14:16he was scared for me
00:14:19scared they'd pin it on me
00:14:22because of your race
00:14:23that fear
00:14:26that fear
00:14:28isn't exactly unfounded
00:14:30soldered
00:14:34once I lied
00:14:35I couldn't change my story
00:14:37it would make me look bad
00:14:40the choice I made when I was 21 and drunk
00:14:47looks like the rest of my life
00:14:48I'm going to be speaking with a senior officer
00:14:58and seeking authority to extend your detention period to the maximum 24 hours
00:15:02no!
00:15:05you're the last person to see it alive, Alex
00:15:08I cannot let you go yet
00:15:18how'd it go?
00:15:19well
00:15:21I got him to admit that he had a relationship with Rosie
00:15:24well
00:15:27but
00:15:28he said that she left him at 2am
00:15:30he didn't see her after that
00:15:31right
00:15:33I've spoken to forensics
00:15:34they've looked at the carpet fibres on her cardigan
00:15:37but they still need a card to cross-check them with
00:15:39they told me to check the international car carpet database
00:15:44but there obviously isn't one
00:15:45yeah
00:15:46yeah
00:15:47I know that now
00:15:49right
00:15:50okay
00:15:51well
00:15:52so
00:15:53we still need
00:15:54a make and a model
00:15:55before we can see if they match
00:15:56yeah
00:15:57there is a second car
00:15:58that we don't have
00:15:59a second crime scene that we don't know about
00:16:00and we have
00:16:0121-ish
00:16:02hours
00:16:03to try and build a case against Alex Gilbey
00:16:05if there even is one
00:16:07and your girlfriend's here
00:16:09girlfriend?
00:16:15champagne
00:16:16I think
00:16:18what?
00:16:19the drink you're gonna buy me
00:16:20steady on
00:16:21it's the least you can do
00:16:22I've got an eyewitness
00:16:24already?
00:16:26the power of podcasts
00:16:29are they credible?
00:16:30I think so
00:16:31send me the details
00:16:32what do we get in return?
00:16:33you can have a prosecco
00:16:34I'm serious Karen
00:16:35let me in
00:16:36heard you made an arrest
00:16:38how do you know that?
00:16:40how do you know that?
00:16:42I'm good at my job
00:16:44name for a name
00:16:46you know I can't do that
00:16:47you've got to give me something Karen
00:16:53how about
00:16:58thank you
00:17:04going to crime?
00:17:05oh just text me and he would piss off
00:17:07I was a taxi driver for 33 years
00:17:26not good for the bark that
00:17:28if his design hadn't made me stop
00:17:30I'd still be out there
00:17:31humped over the steering wheel
00:17:32the hunchback of Glen Rothes
00:17:34and you were driving the cab
00:17:37on the morning in question
00:17:3827th of June 1996
00:17:41I was about 2.15 in the morning
00:17:43Japanese golf tourist
00:17:45they were staying in the B&B
00:17:46in Prentice Road
00:17:47right
00:17:48and I was waiting for them
00:17:49outside
00:17:50and I seen this girl
00:17:51on her own
00:17:52which I thought was strange
00:17:53who's letting her walk home
00:17:55on her own at that time?
00:17:56and how clearly did you see her?
00:17:58well she was only a couple of meters away
00:18:00even nodded hello
00:18:01right
00:18:03and then
00:18:04she passes me
00:18:05and then it starts to rain
00:18:06the heavens just open
00:18:08so she pulls up her hood
00:18:09and then a car
00:18:10pulls up beside her
00:18:11what sort of car?
00:18:13it was a BMW
00:18:14three series I think
00:18:16older body shape
00:18:18and it was grey
00:18:20could have been black
00:18:22well that's specific
00:18:25pretty sure it was a 325i
00:18:27what can I say?
00:18:29I like cars
00:18:33why didn't you go to the police for this?
00:18:35I did
00:18:36you did?
00:18:37it took me a while to realise
00:18:39it was her
00:18:40I didn't follow the case much
00:18:42to begin with
00:18:43I was working nights
00:18:45slept all day
00:18:46world passed me by
00:18:48so what changed?
00:18:50I saw a picture of her somewhere
00:18:51and then I told my wife
00:18:53and she realised that your account
00:18:55might be relevant
00:18:56uh huh
00:18:57right
00:18:58so the car stops alongside her
00:18:59she takes one look at the driver
00:19:01she keeps on walking
00:19:03so he starts kerb crawling
00:19:05and he's talking to her
00:19:07pestering?
00:19:08I wondered
00:19:10but then she stops
00:19:11and they talk for a little while
00:19:13and did she get in the car?
00:19:15after a while she did
00:19:16and they drove away?
00:19:17uh huh
00:19:18so did you see the driver?
00:19:20briefly
00:19:21age?
00:19:22uh not sure
00:19:24ethystic?
00:19:25white
00:19:28are you certain?
00:19:29aye
00:19:32was there anyone else in the car?
00:19:34no
00:19:35do you remember who you spoke to at the police?
00:19:37I called the station
00:19:38spoke to a receptionist
00:19:40and she put me on to an older guy
00:19:42D.I. Barney McLennan
00:19:43could have been
00:19:44and you told him everything you've told me?
00:19:46uh huh
00:19:47and the police never got back to you?
00:19:49figured it wasn't relevant
00:19:55so why did you call the podcast?
00:19:57oh that wasn't me
00:19:58that was my daughter
00:19:59she's a listener
00:20:00is it any good?
00:20:02hmm
00:20:03still making my mind off about that one
00:20:05you got a minute sir?
00:20:16huh?
00:20:17take a seat
00:20:22where is that sir?
00:20:24oh
00:20:25look leaving
00:20:26I get away there fishing
00:20:27you're giving yourself breaks on this
00:20:30aren't you Karen?
00:20:31take me your weekends
00:20:32yes sir when I can
00:20:33cause it's hard going
00:20:34in cases like this
00:20:35you can lose yourself in them
00:20:36and this one in particular
00:20:38do I look tired sir?
00:20:40no no
00:20:41no
00:20:42it's just a
00:20:43I know you're committed
00:20:44and I know what that takes
00:20:46I'm the same
00:20:47we'll have good news
00:20:49we found an eyewitness
00:20:51from the night of the murder
00:20:53really?
00:20:54he spoke to McLennan back in 96
00:20:56but they'd never followed up
00:20:58you found him?
00:21:00Janice and I searched everything
00:21:02thought Barney had taken it to the grave
00:21:05and then we put a call out for him
00:21:07posters
00:21:08flyers
00:21:09we went door to door
00:21:10no one came forward
00:21:11how did you find him?
00:21:12we did an appeal on the podcast
00:21:14I thought that thing would be nothing but nuisance
00:21:17well the problem is
00:21:19he saw a white man in a BMW
00:21:22and we've got Alex Gilby in custody
00:21:24who obviously doesn't match that description
00:21:26could have been Tom Mackett
00:21:27he was still on the Audi
00:21:29until it ran out of petrol
00:21:31could have stolen another motor to get back to the party
00:21:42any news on Tom Mackie?
00:21:43he's stable but still not conscious
00:21:45ok
00:21:46I need you
00:21:47to ask the lab
00:21:49to cross check the fibres found in Rosie's cardigan
00:21:52with those you would find on an 80s or 90s BMW 325i
00:21:56also
00:21:57can you get together a list
00:21:59of everyone that owned a BMW 325i
00:22:02in Fife
00:22:03in 1996
00:22:04how would I do that?
00:22:06call the dugelly
00:22:07they'll have records
00:22:08uh
00:22:09is that your dinner?
00:22:10just to keep the protein up
00:22:12I boiled 12 at times though
00:22:16right
00:22:17ok
00:22:18new office rule
00:22:19one egg a day
00:22:23oh
00:22:24and check reports
00:22:25of stolen vehicles
00:22:26from the summer of 96
00:22:27yes sorry
00:22:32I'm going to finish this one then
00:22:36we have 12 hours
00:22:37no stolen BMWs that I could find
00:23:07be a lot of food
00:23:08no
00:23:19I can't get up
00:23:21just like
00:23:22urn
00:23:23maybe
00:23:24you
00:23:25know
00:23:26you
00:23:27it's a breakdown
00:23:28anyway
00:23:29happen
00:23:30that was a lot
00:23:31it's so blissful
00:23:32well
00:23:33it was nice
00:23:34to get
00:23:36The paint on her cardigan, was it ever analysed?
00:23:58Nope
00:23:58Why not?
00:24:00Archie Duff was a painter and decorator
00:24:02Rosie used to help her from time to time
00:24:04They thought it was an old stain?
00:24:06Yeah
00:24:06It wasn't
00:24:09Hmm?
00:24:12It's not there, in the photo of her and Ziggy
00:24:14Are you sure?
00:24:17It's not there
00:24:17So, it happened after the party?
00:24:22I wish it was found
00:24:23The second crime scene
00:24:28Where did she go?
00:24:34I don't want to be your queen of wellness, again, but you're still wearing your shoes
00:24:51What's the name of your queen of wellness, again, but you're still wearing your shoes?
00:24:59David Soans?
00:25:06David Soans, I love David Soans
00:25:09Is that the paint guy, right?
00:25:10Uh, he is the preeminent forensic specialist in paint, Karen
00:25:14You know him? Is that Dundee?
00:25:18I know him, and I want him to be my grandpa, yes
00:25:21I will go through all the proper challenges as well, but I need his opinion on a paint sample fast
00:25:28How fast?
00:25:28How fast?
00:25:29Four hours fast
00:25:30I like it to me when you get in
00:25:33You are surprisingly useful
00:25:38Brush your hair, you look mad
00:25:41Evidentially, what do we have?
00:25:44We have the photograph, proving that she was at the party
00:25:46We have the semen stains on her cardigan, proving Alex Gilby had sexual relations with her
00:25:51And we have the diary, Aniona's testimony, showing that she was having a relationship in secret
00:25:57And what don't we have?
00:25:59We don't have a second crime scene, a murder weapon, or the car that allegedly picked her up
00:26:03The fibres from her cardigan, they don't match the Audi, but they do match the carpet from a BMW
00:26:09No stolen BMWs reported in the area, though
00:26:12The DVLA have come through with a list of 35 similar cars in Fife at the time
00:26:16Murray's going to talk to the owners, but that may take a while
00:26:19Tom Mackey still comatose?
00:26:21Unfortunately, yes
00:26:23Well, where are we, Harry?
00:26:26Can we charge?
00:26:28Hey, OK
00:26:29I've got two minutes
00:26:30I spoke to David, he can have a full analysis done for you by tomorrow
00:26:34Damn it!
00:26:35But he did have a quick look under the microscope this morning
00:26:39At first glance, he thinks it's a fibreglass paint
00:26:42The kind of thing used on boats
00:26:43Really hard-wearing and waterproof
00:26:45Boats?
00:26:47Alright, thanks, I've got to go
00:26:49Mr. Gilby
00:26:56You said the last time you saw Rosie Duff
00:26:58Was her walking away from you outside the party on Schooney Hill Lane
00:27:01Do you know where she went after that?
00:27:05No
00:27:05She said she was going back to the pub
00:27:07She was wearing this cardigan
00:27:11Yeah
00:27:13We've been through this
00:27:14Later
00:27:16That same part of the top
00:27:19Had a streak of paint on it
00:27:21Do you know where she could have come into contact with wet paint?
00:27:25No
00:27:25You're an artist?
00:27:28Graphic designer
00:27:28I use computers
00:27:30You're studying art?
00:27:31History of art
00:27:32Which is mainly essays
00:27:33Did Rosie come back to the house?
00:27:37No, she never came to the house
00:27:38We've had analysis done on the paint
00:27:44And we think it might be fibreglass primer
00:27:46The kind used on hulls of boats
00:27:48So you knew I didn't use it for portrait painting
00:27:52This is a joke
00:27:53Was there a place that you two went together?
00:27:55A boathouse?
00:27:56A boat in the harbour?
00:27:57Nowhere like that
00:27:58Did she ever mention a boat?
00:28:01Did anyone she know have one?
00:28:02No, never
00:28:03This is a mess
00:28:05Please
00:28:09Let me go
00:28:11The Audi
00:28:12It was Tom Mackey's idea to steal it
00:28:14Had he stolen cars before?
00:28:17I heard stories that he and Ziggy did it for fun back in Cocody
00:28:21But they always put it back
00:28:23Did Tom steal any other cars that night?
00:28:25Not that I know of
00:28:26But he didn't mention it to me
00:28:28Did you know anyone that drove a BMW?
00:28:31Specifically a 325i?
00:28:35You know I didn't do it
00:28:37Don't you?
00:28:38Does that jog any memories?
00:28:39You've got something
00:28:40But you can't connect it to me
00:28:42We're still investigating all possibilities
00:28:44It's not me
00:28:45It's never been me
00:28:46And all of this has just been a waste of time
00:28:48You've wasted our time, Alex
00:28:4925 years of time
00:28:52By lying
00:28:53And I still don't understand why for so long
00:28:56Why?
00:28:58Because I didn't do it
00:29:00Because I wasn't there when she was killed
00:29:03And I knew nothing about what happened
00:29:05So what do you want me to say to help?
00:29:08I would have been charged for murder years ago
00:29:11If I'd been honest about Rosie and me
00:29:13I knew it
00:29:14Ziggy knew it
00:29:16Even Weird knew it
00:29:17That in that scenario
00:29:19Being a black man
00:29:20In a very white country
00:29:22Would do me no favours
00:29:24So I protected myself
00:29:27And they protected me too
00:29:30Even when we weren't as close
00:29:35Even when they were under such great pressure
00:29:41They continued to protect me
00:29:43Even if things are different now
00:29:46We stick by each other
00:29:48Yeah
00:29:49We keep our promises
00:29:53And we hold the course
00:29:56We were young
00:30:05We were drunk
00:30:07We made a panicked decision
00:30:10But who's to say that
00:30:12Even if we told the truth
00:30:13That it would make things better
00:30:16We might be
00:30:18Serving life
00:30:21For a murder
00:30:23We didn't commit
00:30:24What justice
00:30:30Would that have been
00:30:33Thank you for your cooperation
00:30:41Mr. Kilby
00:30:42Hope this new iteration of your story
00:30:45Is the final truth for one
00:30:46It is
00:30:50We're gonna release you
00:30:54You can go home
00:30:56To your wife
00:30:57And to your baby
00:30:57Thank you
00:31:02Thank you
00:31:05I'll see you
00:31:23Uh
00:31:24We still have options.
00:31:51It wasn't then.
00:31:54There's someone else.
00:31:56There's always been someone else.
00:32:03For a moment yesterday,
00:32:07I really thought we had him.
00:32:10I imagined the moment.
00:32:13Being able to tell our brothers.
00:32:17Our daughter.
00:32:20She was meant to come in for a DNA test today, weren't she?
00:32:30If you've got a number, I can get her on.
00:32:32She didn't show.
00:32:34She didn't show up.
00:32:38She didn't show up.
00:32:43She didn't show up.
00:32:46I'm going to show up.
00:32:50There was still a big one.
00:32:54I didn't show up.
00:32:56She still has a light.
00:32:58I'm going to give you a light.
00:33:00I'm going to show up.
00:33:02I'm on the other hand.
00:33:04My father's?
00:33:32Sorry, I did knock. I just thought you might be here somewhere.
00:33:40You need to store these securely.
00:33:42Yeah, I was just locking it up.
00:33:53Do you want to come in?
00:33:55Yeah.
00:33:57So you made an arrest?
00:34:00Twitter, Bellvert, and...
00:34:03Eh.
00:34:05See, you've been listening.
00:34:09It's become hard to ignore.
00:34:12You weren't going to tell me then.
00:34:14That's why I'm here, personally.
00:34:18Surely I should know before Twitter does.
00:34:25Yeah.
00:34:27You should.
00:34:29Sorry.
00:34:30Who is it?
00:34:32Who have you arrested? Is it one of the students?
00:34:35I don't want to keep anything from you, Grace.
00:34:42We arrested a man called Alex Gilbey.
00:34:44And after questioning him for the last two days, we've decided to release him without charge.
00:34:51You let him go.
00:34:52I'm sorry I can't bring you more hopeful news.
00:34:54You must have had a good reason to arrest him.
00:34:56We did.
00:34:57So what happened?
00:34:58I'm sorry I can't discuss the details with you. Not yet.
00:35:03Right.
00:35:04Did you, um, change your mind about the DNA test? My DC said you missed an appointment. We can send someone up here if you want.
00:35:17My...
00:35:20My...
00:35:22Father.
00:35:25My adoptive father.
00:35:27He doesn't know...
00:35:29About any of this.
00:35:31That I trace my mother.
00:35:34He's an arrest home, he's not well.
00:35:37I just...
00:35:39Doesn't feel right.
00:35:42Finding out who my real dad is without telling him first.
00:35:45Yeah.
00:35:47I get that.
00:35:49Take all the time you need.
00:35:52Look, Grace.
00:35:54I just want to say...
00:35:56This could really help us.
00:35:59It's an avenue we've never been able to explore until now.
00:36:04Feels like the wrong thing to focus on to me.
00:36:11Okay.
00:36:14Think about it, eh?
00:36:15Hey.
00:36:16Where are you?
00:36:21Is that all?
00:36:26Yeah.
00:36:31Thanks.
00:36:32That's great.
00:36:33Cheers.
00:36:34Bye-bye now.
00:36:35How many BMW owners have you spoken to now?
00:36:37Eighteen.
00:36:38Well, actually twenty, but two of them were dead.
00:36:39Anything of interest?
00:36:40From the living ones?
00:36:41Not one of them remembered their car going missing during that period.
00:36:44No one noticed anything suspicious.
00:36:45Most of them weren't in St Andrews.
00:36:46Perfect.
00:36:47How'd it go with the daughter?
00:36:48She's changed her mind.
00:36:49About chasing her father.
00:36:50Really?
00:36:51You think she'd want to help with the investigation?
00:36:52Yeah.
00:36:53You think she'd want help with the investigation?
00:36:54Yeah.
00:36:55Yeah.
00:36:56Yeah.
00:36:57Yeah.
00:36:58Yeah.
00:36:59So good, haven't you?
00:37:00So good, haven't you?
00:37:01It's so good.
00:37:02It's so good.
00:37:03It's so good.
00:37:04It's so good.
00:37:05It's so good.
00:37:06No one noticed anything suspicious.
00:37:07Most of them weren't in St Andrews.
00:37:08Perfect.
00:37:09It's so good.
00:37:10It's so good.
00:37:11It's so good to have you home.
00:37:39Right, thanks.
00:37:40Well, this is so different from the old St Andrews police station.
00:37:53It's not cosy, is it?
00:37:54No.
00:37:55It's less claustrophobic.
00:37:56Everyone was always on top of each other down at that old place.
00:38:00Thank you for coming.
00:38:02Please.
00:38:05I just want to talk about the original investigation.
00:38:08How it was run on the inside.
00:38:11MacLennan?
00:38:12Aye, he was a great man.
00:38:14Karen.
00:38:15Everyone loved him.
00:38:16I adored him.
00:38:19Do you think he was a good detective?
00:38:21It was all I knew.
00:38:23Don't have much to compare it to.
00:38:28There was an eyewitness that contacted him.
00:38:31Yes.
00:38:32Can you just tell me how that happened when you first heard of it?
00:38:35So he mentioned it to me that last day.
00:38:38The day he died.
00:38:41We were all in the pub that night and he asked me if I was working next morning as they die.
00:38:46And he said he wanted me to come with me to interview a witness.
00:38:49And he didn't write anything about it down?
00:38:53No.
00:38:54And he never told anyone about it except me.
00:38:58Why do you think he did that?
00:39:01Oh, I don't know.
00:39:03He was old school.
00:39:04Didn't love paperwork.
00:39:06And then you and Lawson tried to track him down and couldn't.
00:39:10Well, Jimmy was trying to when I was moved off the case.
00:39:13I tried to check in afterwards and see how it was going, but it was a bit cagey.
00:39:17Understandably, I suppose, because of me and Colin.
00:39:23Is that why you were taking off the investigation?
00:39:28I wonder if Barney had been alive.
00:39:33He might have let it slide, but...
00:39:36Lawson took over and didn't approve.
00:39:38I think he had some personal issues with us.
00:39:42What do you mean?
00:39:46Jimmy had an eye for me, I suppose.
00:39:49And I didn't want to bring that up at work, so I went to go see him.
00:39:53At his house?
00:39:55Well, you couldn't really call it a house.
00:39:58He'd bought this wreck.
00:40:00Jimmy was so desperate to move up in the world.
00:40:02He'd got this big old ruin for next to nothing.
00:40:05He was doing it up himself.
00:40:06So he was living in this tin can caravan in the garden.
00:40:09Janice?
00:40:12Sorry to come so late.
00:40:13I just...
00:40:14No more.
00:40:17I just wanted to...
00:40:20Colin and I were old friends.
00:40:24I just wanted to make sure you knew that...
00:40:26Come on, you're more than that.
00:40:29No.
00:40:30You don't have to lie to me, Jan.
00:40:32You're seeing each other, right?
00:40:36No, really.
00:40:37It won't get in the way of work.
00:40:40I've known him for a long time.
00:40:41Of course, you...
00:40:43You go ahead, but...
00:40:47I'm taking you off the gates.
00:40:51No.
00:40:53No, I don't do that.
00:40:54I'm sorry, I've just done it.
00:40:55No, Jimmy, come on.
00:40:57I found her.
00:40:59I was the one that found her.
00:41:00And now...
00:41:03You're sleeping with her brother.
00:41:06That was your decision.
00:41:07You had other options.
00:41:10Jimmy, I'm sorry if I...
00:41:13You and me, I didn't...
00:41:15I don't...
00:41:16It's alright, you can see it.
00:41:18You don't like me like that.
00:41:20Don't take me off the case, Jimmy.
00:41:23I was making a difference to that case.
00:41:27And I blew it.
00:41:29Rosie had me and Barney on her side.
00:41:33And then she lost the both of us.
00:41:35At the same time.
00:41:37You don't think Lawson was as effective?
00:41:39He got another murder case through soon after.
00:41:42Solved it really quickly.
00:41:44Impressively.
00:41:45And then he really started moving up through the ranks.
00:41:48And the Duff case just became less of a priority?
00:41:51Once the press interest had waned.
00:41:55And you left the first soon after.
00:41:58Why?
00:42:00I never knew how good I was, Karen.
00:42:03I don't think anyone would have thought to tell me.
00:42:06I think I'm only starting to realise that now.
00:42:10Didn't let that happen to you now.
00:42:12Do you hear me?
00:42:16Keep going, Karen.
00:42:19Colin and Brian don't trust the police, but...
00:42:24That's not your fault.
00:42:26It was ours.
00:42:45...
00:42:54...
00:42:56...
00:42:57...
00:42:58...
00:43:00...
00:43:04...
00:43:05Hi there, I'm sorry to call so late, I'm DC Murray.
00:43:34Am I right in seeing news to own a BMW 325i?
00:43:40That's a lovely car, eh?
00:43:41That German engineering's fantastic.
00:44:04Is everyone all right?
00:44:11Hello?
00:44:12Don't move!
00:44:13I said don't move!
00:44:18I said don't move!
00:44:19Just lower the gun.
00:44:20Stay there!
00:44:21All right!
00:44:22All right!
00:44:23All right!
00:44:24All right!
00:44:25All right!
00:44:26All right!
00:44:27All right!
00:44:28All right!
00:44:29I said don't move!
00:44:30I said don't move!
00:44:31Just lower the gun.
00:44:32Stay there!
00:44:33All right!
00:44:34All right!
00:44:35Please!
00:44:36Whatever you want, just lower the gun.
00:44:37I want to know what happened to Rosie Duff!
00:44:39I don't know what happened to Rosie Duff!
00:44:40I don't know what happened to her!
00:44:41Liar!
00:44:42I honestly don't!
00:44:43I wish I did!
00:44:44You killed her!
00:44:45No!
00:44:46No!
00:44:47Who are you?
00:44:48You killed my mother!
00:44:49I zobaczy she
00:45:17She was your mother.
00:45:21I'm so, so sorry, but I didn't kill you.
00:45:26I said stay there! I'm not afraid of you!
00:45:34Tell me why you killed her.
00:45:37I left her.
00:45:39Tell me or I will shoot.
00:45:42I didn't... I didn't kill her.
00:45:44I knew her, but I didn't kill her.
00:45:47You knew her?
00:45:51But I didn't kill her.
00:45:53I could tell you about her, but I'm not like this, please.
00:46:14I'll never hear about you.
00:46:30There was so much I didn't know.
00:46:31You really do look like her.
00:46:41I said go!
00:46:43I said go!
00:46:55No!
00:47:07No!
00:47:08No!
00:47:09No!
00:47:12No!
00:47:14No!
00:47:14Go, go.
00:47:44We've got to remember that this was before the centralization of the SPS.
00:47:50St. Andrew's Police was a small team. Perhaps they just weren't equipped for it.
00:47:55But the singularity of the case, and the shockwaves that it sent through the town,
00:48:00make it even stranger that interest seemed to fade so quickly.
00:48:05Why didn't it continue to be a priority?
00:48:08Why, once McLennan was dead, did Rosie seemingly get forgotten?
00:48:14I'm sorry, Preacher. I have not been fired.
00:48:22You're walking like you're leaving a burning building.
00:48:34There's something not right at the heart of all this.
00:48:44Lawson said he did everything he could to find the eyewitness.
00:48:48Yet we do one call out and we find him straight away.
00:48:50And then there's missing evidence in the warehouse.
00:48:53Why has no one picked up on that before?
00:48:55And Bell was right. The investigation should have been reviewed.
00:48:58If Lawson really cared about the case, why didn't he reopen it until now?
00:49:04Is he just a really bad cop in a really nice suit?
00:49:06Or... he's covering for someone.
00:49:12Well, Grandpa Paint came through.
00:49:23Marine primer.
00:49:24He says you're lucky because that particular paint is actually quite rare.
00:49:27Chroma paints, anti-corrosive, instant waterproofing.
00:49:32That company folded in the noughties or something.
00:49:34It's found on fibreglass boathulls, barges, motorhomes and...
00:49:40Caravans.
00:49:42I'm DC Murray.
00:49:48I know, I know. I'm sorry. Did it get you out of bed?
00:49:51Did you have a husband or a boyfriend to board it?
00:49:54Did you used to own a BMW 325i?
00:50:00You did. Can you tell me more about that?
00:50:02Just because Lawson has a caravan.
00:50:05But it was there, right?
00:50:07In St Andrews.
00:50:08And you're looking for a second crime scene.
00:50:10Which you think might be a caravan.
00:50:12But how do I investigate it? I can't question him.
00:50:15He's my boss.
00:50:16He's my boss's boss.
00:50:20I'll have to find it.
00:50:22To see if the paint even matches.
00:50:24If you were a caravan, where would you keep it?
00:50:27In my driveway?
00:50:28I don't know.
00:50:29Where does he live?
00:50:31There's some swanky townhouse in Edinburgh.
00:50:34Probably not caravan territory.
00:50:36Plus he might not have it anymore.
00:50:41Maybe you just need to sleep on it.
00:50:44You have to look after yourself.
00:50:47That's what he said to me today.
00:50:57What do you think?
00:51:01He fishes in Loch Leven.
00:51:04He has a place up there.
00:51:08There's loads of pictures of him on holiday there.
00:51:11That's where he'd have it, isn't it?
00:51:13If he still has it.
00:51:19Are you just going to search the screen for something caravan shaped?
00:51:22Do you have a better idea?
00:51:28Mint.
00:51:29Sarge, I just had the weirdest thing.
00:51:31I couldn't get hold of this old lady.
00:51:32Not now.
00:51:33Mint.
00:51:34I'm on to something.
00:51:35No, no.
00:51:36It's worth hearing.
00:51:37I think...
00:51:38I don't know, but...
00:51:39Right, well.
00:51:40Go on then.
00:51:41I couldn't track her down, but it was because she'd been moved into a care home because she
00:51:44couldn't get up the stairs.
00:51:45Faster, Mint.
00:51:46Okay, okay.
00:51:47Yeah.
00:51:48Well, she had one of these cars up until 96 and she lived in St Andrews at the time and
00:51:53she was telling me that her son was a copper.
00:52:01Well, you'll never guess who her son is.
00:52:03James Lawson.
00:52:04How did you know that?
00:52:05I need you to pick me up early tomorrow morning, man.
00:52:18Early, early.
00:52:19Where are we going?
00:52:20Loch Leven.
00:52:22We can't do this.
00:52:23We're just going to go up there and have a look around.
00:52:24We're both going to lose our jobs.
00:52:25If we don't find anything, we drop it.
00:52:26I can't lose my job, Sarge.
00:52:27Just get in the car and hear me out.
00:52:41I'm not good at anything else.
00:52:43He's our chief super.
00:52:48He knew.
00:52:49He was drinking in that pub.
00:52:51He was there that night.
00:52:52So was half the time.
00:52:53The paint on her hood.
00:52:54It's used on caravans.
00:52:55He was living in a caravan.
00:52:56But he probably no longer has.
00:52:57The carman.
00:52:58He lied about the eyewitness.
00:52:59We don't have enough proof.
00:53:00Yet.
00:53:01Not enough yet.
00:53:02Look, if you're not going to drive us, then give me the keys, Jason.
00:53:19He's back in the air.
00:53:22And then he's stuck in the air.
00:53:27Alex.
00:53:29I heard you preached Alex.
00:53:31Please leave a message.
00:53:33Hi, you're pre-standings. Please leave a message.
00:54:01Yes, Baraka.
00:54:03Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down.
00:54:06Okay.
00:54:07Right.
00:54:10Wait, is the car there?
00:54:13No.
00:54:17Right, what's the plate?
00:54:18Sierra Lima 1-7.
00:54:20Juliet Foxtrot Vector.
00:54:22A Silver Land Rover Discovery.
00:54:25No.
00:54:26No.
00:54:27No.
00:54:28No.
00:54:29No.
00:54:30No.
00:54:31No.
00:54:32No.
00:54:33Okay.
00:54:34See.
00:54:35Biggest driver.
00:54:36Such an fit.
00:54:38Hey!
00:54:39Hey!
00:54:40Police!
00:54:41We need your help!
00:54:42He's not gonna help us.
00:54:43Hey! Hey! Police! We need your help!
00:54:54He's not going to help us.
00:54:56OK, yes.
00:55:01Sorry!
00:55:06Hi! I'm DS Piri. This is DC Murray. I don't suppose you could give us a lift?
00:55:18We're looking for an old caravan used for fishing.
00:55:23Well, there's a couple of those around.
00:55:36That's one that's been here for years.
00:55:49That sounds right. You take us there.
00:56:06Is that it? This is your stock.
00:56:17Thank you. Thank you so much.
00:56:21Call an ambulance.
00:56:36If we're looking for a primer, how are we even going to find it?
00:56:53We're under the...
00:56:55You're not going to...
00:56:56You can't just scrape the paint off. We don't even know if it's his.
00:56:58How are we going to know if it's his if we don't scrape the paint off?
00:57:06We should call forensics.
00:57:12We can't, Min.
00:57:14We have to do this on our own.
00:57:22Well, I guess we have to jimmy a window.
00:57:26Really?
00:57:36Okay.
00:57:51Lift it up.
00:57:54You... you want to?
00:57:57Do you think I'm lifting you?
00:58:00Yeah.
00:58:01Right, yeah.
00:58:03Can you see anything?
00:58:29It's wallpaper.
00:58:33Would you have primer under wallpaper?
00:58:41Okay.
00:58:43Okay.
00:59:00What are you doing?
00:59:03Anything else?
00:59:04Just Strang.
00:59:05We need to keep any room for our hotel.
00:59:21Is it consequential?
00:59:22It's interesting.
00:59:24I'm in reserve.
00:59:25You've got five tables of salud,
00:59:25the bummer.
00:59:26Somebody will take water and leave your leg
00:59:28all right.
00:59:29I will.
00:59:30I'll try to solve nothing wrong.
00:59:32It was waterproofing the door and it looks like it was over a repair.
01:00:00Normally you could avoid sweat pain like that, but not when you're carrying a body.
01:00:21He killed her, Min.
01:00:26Lawson killed Rosie.
01:00:30Any sign of the baby?
01:00:31Nowhere.
01:00:32Is he alive?
01:00:33Yes, lost, lost of blood.
01:00:37Hey, Alex, Alex, who did this to you?
01:00:54Hello?
01:00:55Where the hell have you been?
01:01:01Whoa.
01:01:02Well, I've been trying to call you.
01:01:04Been in luck leaving.
01:01:05There's no signal.
01:01:06Rosie's daughter has taken Alex's kid.
01:01:07What?
01:01:08Where does she live?
01:01:09Jesus.
01:01:10Her name's Grace Galloway.
01:01:11She lives in a big farm up in the middle of nowhere.
01:01:13Send me the address and meet me there.
01:01:14Okay, send him the address.
01:01:15If you get there first, be careful.
01:01:16I don't know what she's going to do to you or the child.
01:01:23I don't know what she's going to do to you or the child.
01:01:30I don't know.
01:01:31I don't know what she's going to do to you or the child.
01:01:37Oh, Dad.
01:01:40I don't know what she's going to do to you or the child.
01:01:43Maybe we should wait here, Sarge?
01:01:58No.
01:01:58Shouldn't we wait for a negotiator or something?
01:02:00We don't need a negotiator.
01:02:02It's a hostage situation, Sarge.
01:02:07You're nuts, you know that?
01:02:08That's what you were thinking, wasn't it?
01:02:10When I said we had to investigate Lawson.
01:02:12Look how that turned out.
01:02:13Okay, you're not going in there, though.
01:02:20I want you to do one thing.
01:02:22What is it?
01:02:22Make sure news of this gets back to Lawson.
01:02:26What?
01:02:26Shh.
01:02:27What do you mean?
01:02:28Sarge!
01:02:34Sarge!
01:02:34Shh!
01:02:35Don't move.
01:02:55Close the door.
01:03:01Close the door.
01:03:17Where's the baby, Grace?
01:03:18Stay there.
01:03:23Or I will shoot you.
01:03:26Perception.
01:03:26How can I help you?
01:03:27I need DCS Lawson's office.
01:03:30Sir, it's DC Murray.
01:03:32I know it's kind of strange to call you directly, but given your knowledge of the case...
01:03:36Is everything all right, Bonnie?
01:03:38No.
01:03:40It's DS Perry.
01:03:42She's in danger, Sarge.
01:03:43Where are you?
01:03:44I need to know the baby's safe, Grace.
01:03:46What for?
01:03:48Her parents will be torn up.
01:03:49I am torn up.
01:03:51Why does no one care about that?
01:03:52I do.
01:03:53I want to help you.
01:03:54You can't help me.
01:03:58I know I'm going down for this.
01:04:01It really doesn't matter who I bring down with me.
01:04:03I can tell you what you want to do.
01:04:04You don't know anything.
01:04:05That's where you're wrong.
01:04:06The police did fail your mother in the past.
01:04:10But I haven't.
01:04:11I wouldn't.
01:04:14Show me where the baby is.
01:04:16And I'll tell you who I think killed her.
01:04:21I can give you the answers you want.
01:04:25You didn't have three boys, did it?
01:04:27The ones that found her?
01:04:29That's what you've been doing, isn't it?
01:04:30Chasing them down on her path.
01:04:31No.
01:04:32She wouldn't want that.
01:04:33You don't know where she'd want.
01:04:34She was seeing one of them.
01:04:37Alex.
01:04:40When you let go.
01:04:41She liked her.
01:04:43Really liked her.
01:04:44I think.
01:04:46That's his baby you've got somewhere in this house.
01:04:49What would you think of that?
01:04:56If it wasn't them, then who was it?
01:05:00Show me the child.
01:05:02And I'll tell you.
01:05:06Tell me.
01:05:07Tell me.
01:05:09I'll show you.
01:05:13Shoot me.
01:05:14And you'll never know.
01:05:20Show me.
01:05:26Look through the whole way.
01:05:27Stop.
01:05:49Tell them to stay back.
01:05:51Call them.
01:05:52Okay?
01:05:53Okay.
01:06:02Sergeant, are you okay?
01:06:03You and the other officers need to stay back.
01:06:05Sergeant.
01:06:06It's all right.
01:06:07Got it under control.
01:06:08Just keep your distance.
01:06:11Understood.
01:06:14It's all right.
01:06:14They're not coming in.
01:06:16It's just me and you.
01:06:17It's the door on the right.
01:06:41It's your turn.
01:06:41I'm going to need to move me and the baby over to the window.
01:06:48If you'll let me.
01:06:50Why?
01:06:51To let my fellow officers know we're all right.
01:06:54And that way, they won't burst in on us until we're finished.
01:06:56I'm going to need to move me and the baby over to the window.
01:07:26All right.
01:07:32Now tell me, we made a deal.
01:07:39There are a few new things we know about your mother's last movements.
01:07:43We know she went to a party.
01:07:46And then we know she left to walk back to the pub where she was meeting her brothers.
01:07:50But on the way, it started to rain.
01:07:56She was offered a lift from someone she knew.
01:07:59Someone she trusted.
01:08:03I believe it was a police officer.
01:08:04He took her back to his house, not home.
01:08:11There was a caravan on the site that he was living in.
01:08:15She went and stayed.
01:08:20And I believe that's where he killed her.
01:08:21Who is he?
01:08:24Where is he now?
01:08:33I'm about to do something really risky right now, Chris.
01:08:36What?
01:08:40I'm going to go and arrest your mother's murderer.
01:08:43And I want you to be there for it.
01:08:44He's standing right there, outside.
01:08:57He's here.
01:09:01He's standing right there.
01:09:02The house is surrounded, Chris.
01:09:22They won't wait much longer before they come in here.
01:09:25Give me the gun.
01:09:27We can do this together.
01:09:28No!
01:09:28You go out there holding that?
01:09:33They're just going to shit you.
01:09:37You want answers, Grace?
01:09:40Please, let me give them to you.
01:09:45You killed her?
01:09:48You're sure?
01:09:51We have one chance.
01:09:54Me and you.
01:09:56You come in or not?
01:09:58I'm DS Karen Pity.
01:10:11This woman is unarmed.
01:10:13And the baby is safe.
01:10:14Put the gun down!
01:10:15I just need one minute, ma'am.
01:10:16DS Pity, put the gun down!
01:10:17I just need one minute!
01:10:19You need to stay there.
01:10:21No, you said.
01:10:21I need you to trust me.
01:10:23DS Pity, put the gun down!
01:10:24I'm disarming the gun!
01:10:25On the floor!
01:10:31Now look at me!
01:10:32Look at me!
01:10:36Put the gun down!
01:10:38Now!
01:10:43Walk towards me.
01:10:44I just need you to give me one minute, ma'am.
01:10:46Sir, I need a word with you.
01:10:54Are you all right, Sergeant?
01:10:57Chief Superintendent James Lawson.
01:11:03I am arresting you under Section 1 of the Criminal Justice Scotland Act 2016.
01:11:10What are you doing, Perry?
01:11:11For the murder of Rosie Duff.
01:11:14This is ridiculous.
01:11:16You are not obliged to say anything, but anything you do say will be noted and may be used in evidence.
01:11:21You're embarrassing yourself, Sergeant.
01:11:23Do you understand?
01:11:32Murray, you be careful now.
01:11:34Yeah, don't you dare!
01:11:36Forensics are on their way to Loch Leven right now.
01:11:43We found the second crime scene.
01:11:46Do you understand, sir?
01:12:03The second crime scene.
01:12:20Grace Galloway, I'm arresting you under Section 1 of the Criminal Justice Scotland Act 2016 for the abduction of Athena Gill.
01:12:50Chief Superintendent Lawson, can you tell us in your own words where you were and what you did on the night of the 26th of June, 1996?
01:13:20I'll ask you again. Chief Superintendent Lawson, you were in St Andrews at the Lammas Bar on the evening of the 26th of June, 1996, were you not?
01:13:32Perhaps I should tell you what I think happened. Feel free to chip in, anytime. In around 1992, when you were 21 and Rosie Duff was 15 years old, so still legally a child, you had a relationship with her.
01:13:52I say relationship. It could have been a one-night stand, but I imagine it was more significant than that because of the possessiveness you displayed later, as shown in Rosie's diary.
01:14:03Can I prove all this? Well, I can prove one thing. The DNA taken at your arrest is a close familial match with a woman we have previously identified as Rosie Duff's child. Proving you are her father.
01:14:21You were sleeping with Rosie when she was underage and she got pregnant. Of course, you couldn't have that coming out. You were a young and ambitious policeman. And I'm guessing, but I don't think Rosie wanted a child either.
01:14:34Maybe she was too far gone to have an abortion. Maybe she was too far gone to have an abortion. I don't know. I can't ask her. But what did happen was that she went away for a summer to stay with an aunt and had the baby in secret and told you and her family it died.
01:14:49But it didn't die. That baby was a little girl. Your daughter. She was adopted by Bonnie and Greg Galloway. Grace Galloway is 27 now, and she's been arrested for the murder of Ziggy Malkovich, the attempted murder of Alex Gilbey, and the abduction of Alex Gilbey's child, Davina.
01:15:13You ruined your own daughter's life by not owning up. She's going to do a long stretch in prison, and don't get me wrong, she deserves it. But you had a part to play in that too.
01:15:26So, Rosie, I reckon she came back after her summer away and you wanted everything to go back to normal. Am I right? And I'm guessing Rosie didn't want that. Maybe the trauma of all had soured the relationship for her.
01:15:42Maybe the way you acted had put her off you. I don't know. I'm just guessing. Maybe she was just never that into you.
01:15:53But you weren't ready to give up, were you? You kept your eyes on her at all times. You drank in the Lammas bar where she worked. You made sure she didn't date anyone else. You did this for three years.
01:16:07A teenage girl.
01:16:11Somebody told you she was moving on, didn't it? You suspected it was one of the students, but you never did know for sure.
01:16:17And when Rosie snuck out the pub that night, you noticed. You went looking for her. And then, 2.15am on Prentice Road, that's where you saw her.
01:16:30It's pissing it down, Rosie. My brothers are picking me up. Where's wrong? I'll give you a lift.
01:16:34No, you know they'll kill you or me if they see me with you. Just from the top of the street then.
01:16:38No, I'm all right. You go home.
01:16:40Where have you been? I'm not doing this again.
01:16:43Just talk to me, won't you? I don't want to talk to you.
01:16:46Please, Rosie. You always say the same things.
01:16:48It's because I mean it. It doesn't matter. We're over. We're done with.
01:16:52You don't mean that. It was just what happened. That ruined everything. Before that, we were fine.
01:16:56Jimmy. Now that you're older, we don't have to hide it.
01:16:59Jimmy, please. I don't want to talk about this. I just want to go home.
01:17:02Let me give you a lift to the high street. And I promise, I promise, I'll leave it. I cannae leave you here in the rain.
01:17:07But you didn't take her up to the high street, did you? But you took her back to your house, your caravan.
01:17:19Rosie had a rare paint on the hood of her cardigan that matches the primer used on the inside of the door of your caravan.
01:17:28So she obviously came inside. Did she go willingly?
01:17:34Did you tell her you'd stop bothering her if she'd just talk to you?
01:17:38Did you say you'd take her home if she just gave you five minutes?
01:17:43I know you had sex. I think you forced it on her.
01:17:47And I think when she told you to stop, you got angry.
01:17:51You put your hands around her neck.
01:17:54And you strangled her.
01:17:57You strangled that poor girl until she was unconscious.
01:18:03And then you panicked.
01:18:05Maybe you didn't mean to kill her.
01:18:07Maybe you just wanted to teach her a lesson.
01:18:09Sure how strong you were, how small she was.
01:18:12I know you weren't thinking straight because the truth was, she wasn't dead.
01:18:17And you didn't take the time to check.
01:18:20You thought of yourself before her. You didn't think, how can I save this girl from what I've done to her?
01:18:25You thought, how can I make it look as though it wasn't me?
01:18:28You thought of the other unsolved murders that you'd heard of.
01:18:31The one in Inveruri came to mind.
01:18:34A girl left in a cemetery cut across the stomach.
01:18:37I think you took a kitchen knife from your caravan.
01:18:42You put her in the boot of your car and you drove her to the cathedral.
01:18:47You laid her out on a grave and you cut her.
01:18:50Tie the two crimes together.
01:18:52And she died there.
01:18:55Slowly.
01:18:56While she went home and cleaned herself up.
01:19:01You were back at the crime scene within 45 minutes after McLennan called you.
01:19:08You were relieved when the students found her.
01:19:11That's when you first knew you might get away with it.
01:19:13When you took over the case, you made a whole box of evidence go missing.
01:19:18All of Rosie's clothes.
01:19:20Genius.
01:19:21How would we ever connect you now?
01:19:24What you didn't account for was human error.
01:19:27Because Rosie's cardigan was genuinely misfiled.
01:19:30And that is where we found the paint.
01:19:34You thought you dealt with the eyewitness.
01:19:36The eyewitness that saw Rosie getting into your car.
01:19:42Was it your car, DCS Lawson?
01:19:46Was it your mother's car?
01:19:48Did you use your mum's car to dispose of a body?
01:19:55You sold it a week later.
01:19:57Bought her a new one.
01:19:58She was delighted.
01:20:02This next part, not so sure on.
01:20:04Maybe you can help me.
01:20:07McLennan.
01:20:10He knew about this eyewitness.
01:20:12But he didn't share it with you.
01:20:13He told Janice.
01:20:15And she mentioned it to you.
01:20:18I've been going through his notes.
01:20:20Trying to find details of this eyewitness.
01:20:23No, no.
01:20:24Me too.
01:20:25There's a few scribbled phone numbers, but none of them have been right.
01:20:28But he must have hid it down somewhere.
01:20:30Maybe one minute.
01:20:31I'm going to stay late, I think.
01:20:32Is that because he was already on to you?
01:20:35Did you know that somehow?
01:20:37Because it's just weird, isn't it?
01:20:39That a detective is about to solve a crime and then dies in an accident.
01:20:43An accident that you were present for.
01:20:45Arnie!
01:20:46Arnie!
01:20:51Arnie!
01:20:52I can't see you!
01:20:54Did you kill MacLennan?
01:21:21Did you kill him before he could tell anyone?
01:21:24What you did?
01:21:25No.
01:21:28It was an accident.
01:21:30I couldn't save him.
01:21:32I tried to.
01:21:37So, everything else I've said...
01:21:42It's not worth the response.
01:21:45But that...
01:21:49That was too far.
01:21:54I've underestimated you, Karen Billy.
01:22:01Is that why you gave me the job?
01:22:07You thought I couldn't do it?
01:22:10You're assured I'd never do it?
01:22:14I did.
01:22:15I had always imagined what my Earth Mother looked like.
01:22:21Dark eyes like mine.
01:22:22Dark hair.
01:22:23Beautiful, of course, because...
01:22:28Beautiful, of course, because...
01:22:29That's just how you imagine someone you love but have never met.
01:22:35Then the podcast came out.
01:22:36At first I thought it was on my side.
01:22:42That it was going to help her.
01:22:44That it was going to help me.
01:22:45And I started to read the messages.
01:22:47And look at the crime scene photos that were shared on there.
01:22:51Photos of her...
01:22:52Of her pale face and her neck.
01:22:56help her that was going to help me. And I started to read the messages and look at the crime scene
01:23:08photos that were shared on there. Photos of her, of her pale face and her neck and the blood on her
01:23:21clothes. And I stopped being able to see her anymore. The version of my mum I had in my head, I started to see all this stuff instead.
01:23:34This, um, wifeless body because that's what she wants to the world. A dead girl. A body.
01:23:43And suddenly I just wanted to see them. I just wanted to see who killed her. So when they were named on these
01:23:58forums, I believed it. And I went and I found them. And I followed them.
01:24:07But when I saw their big houses and their careers and their marriages and their babies,
01:24:28I got so angry. Because she was never going to have any of that.
01:24:37Because it was all snatched from her.
01:24:44I won't, I won't make excuses. I won't, I won't justify.
01:24:54I, I made a split second decision to end a man's life.
01:25:01The wrong man's life.
01:25:07And I will never forgive myself.
01:25:25Because I'm just like him.
01:25:26There is a difference, Grace.
01:25:35You confessed.
01:25:40You didn't.
01:25:41Do you want to meet him?
01:25:57No.
01:25:59I want him to spend the rest of his life wondering what I'm like.
01:26:07Just like I have to do with her.
01:26:08I'm calling.
01:26:16Hi, Colin.
01:26:17Come here.
01:26:26Perry.
01:26:30Sir.
01:26:33Bittersweet.
01:26:33doesn't quite cut it, does it?
01:26:39No, sir.
01:26:43It's a hard thing, taking down one of your own.
01:26:47Unsettles the whole place, puts everybody's eyes on you.
01:26:53And because of that, it takes bravery, and it takes guts.
01:27:00You are an asset to this service, Karen.
01:27:03Thank you, sir.
01:27:07You're welcome.
01:27:09Back to work.
01:27:11How much more chilling is it to know that this tragic killing was committed by a police
01:27:38officer? Someone who we should feel safe around? Someone employed to protect us? The Duff family
01:27:47finally have answers. They can finally heal. But the Scottish Police Service may feel the
01:27:54ripples of this trauma for a long time.
01:28:08So not the bomb sticker anymore, eh?
01:28:27The bomb sticker? Don't even start. No. You're going to need a new nickname, though. I was thinking
01:28:34paddy paddy sauce. Too long. Hot sauce. I like hot sauce. No one's got to call you hot sauce
01:28:42in the office. Mmm, I might. Fanny pack. Absolutely not. Right. I'm off. Oh, I have... I'm going
01:28:58to get one more. You're following me. Would you mind very much if I was? Depends on what
01:29:09you want. I just want to keep you safe from criminals. I'm better at that than you, remember.
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