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00:00on the same schedules that it's been. I think there's a broader issue unrelated to the pause

00:04and that involves the defense productive capabilities of the West, not just us, but of

00:08Europe. As an example, one of the things that the Ukrainians need is more Patriot batteries.

00:13There are Patriot batteries available in multiple countries in Europe, yet no one wants to part

00:18with them. So I hope that'll change. If in fact that Ukraine is the priority that so many in

00:22countries, so many countries in Europe say it is, they should be willing to share batteries that

00:28right now they don't have a need to use. So hopefully we'll be able to convince some of

00:33our NATO partners to provide those Patriot batteries to Ukraine because there are a number of countries

00:38that have them, but no one wants to part with what they have. So perhaps that'll change.

00:42That's important. Mr. Secretary, you mentioned wanting to see a roadmap for how this conflict

00:47can conclude. What concrete ideas have you presented and how did Russia respond in this meeting?

00:52Well, I, again, these things are best negotiated. I want to, in private, and that's how these

00:57things generally work. There were some ideas exchanged today, some viewpoints that they

01:01expressed to us that I'll take back to the president for his consideration, and hopefully

01:06it will lead to something. I don't want to overpromise. I mean, again, as I said, this is a conflict

01:10that's been going on now for three, over three years, and as has already been pointed out by one of

01:16the questions here, we've seen an acceleration of attacks. I think it's the, probably the largest drone

01:21attack in a city close to the Polish border, actually. So it's pretty deep strike. And again,

01:28I mean, it's, it's, every time you see this in the headlines and people die, it reminds you of why

01:33the president wants this war to end. As he has said from the beginning, his number one interest here

01:37is to stop people from dying and the destruction that's ongoing every single day. They're going to

01:42be having a conference, maybe it starts today, if I'm not mistaken, about reconstruction and the

01:47rebuilding of Ukraine. Every time one of these strikes is launched, the price of reconstruction

01:53goes up, right? There's also the, the destruction of the country's capabilities, the country's

01:59economic capabilities that has to be added to this. But obviously the loss of life is something of

02:04great interest to, of great interest to the president. It's important to note that since

02:08January of this year, as an example, just to give you on the Russian side, they've lost a hundred

02:12thousand soldiers, dead, not India, I'm talking about dead. And on the Ukrainian side, the numbers are

02:17less, but still very significant. And so that's, the president doesn't like wars. He thinks wars are

02:23a waste of money and a waste of lives and he wants them to end. And he's going to do everything he can

02:27within his power to end this war and any other war he has a chance to end, as you've seen in the past.

02:32And so we're going to continue to work at it. We understand that these things take time and patience,

02:36but obviously we're also frustrated that more progress has not been made. And hopefully we, based on

02:43today and in the days to come, we'll have more clarity about what exactly the Russian position

02:47and priorities are in this regard and, and can begin to make some progress. But it's,

02:51you know, it's been difficult as, as you've seen.

02:54I was just going to ask you on a question.

02:55China's been supporting Russia. Will you meet with your Chinese counterpart here this week

02:58to speak to him about that?

02:59Yeah, I think we're working on that. Maybe, maybe we'll meet and obviously we'll

03:02talk about it. You know, I think, you know, that the Chinese clearly have been supportive of

03:06the Russian effort. And I think that generally they've been willing to help them as much as they

03:10can without getting caught. But people in Europe and other parts of the world have noticed.

03:15But in the end, this peace, if it's possible and doable, will happen between Ukraine and Russia.

03:24And we're willing to do whatever we can to help bring it to an end.

03:26Can I ask you an ASEAN question?

03:28A where?

03:28An ASEAN question.

03:29Yeah, of course. That's why we're here, right?

03:30Can I ask you one more quick question on Russia?

03:32Just these ideas that were put on the table today, would you characterize them as new ideas

03:36from the Russian side that the Trump administration had not heard before?

03:40Yes. Well, I think maybe, yes. I think it's a new and a different approach. Again, I wouldn't

03:47characterize it as something that guarantees a peace. But it's a concept that, you know,

03:52we'll take back to the president today and here as soon as I finish with you.

03:58I just wanted to know, what was your sense today after your meeting, the PMC meeting with ASEAN

04:04and foreign ministers about how big and irritant the tariffs are to U.S. relations both with

04:10ASEAN as a block but individual countries?

04:13Well, I think, look, there are two things to understand. Number one is these letters that

04:17are going out and these trade changes are happening with every country in the world. I mean, basically,

04:21every country in the world. The president's been very clear. And he has been. Frankly, if you

04:25go back to videos of him speaking in the 80s about his feeling that the state of global

04:31trade is unfair to the United States, that for far too long we allowed these imbalances

04:35to develop, we are the world's largest consumer. We're a huge market where people export things

04:40to us. And with these huge and unsustainable imbalances have developed with countries all

04:44over the world. And so this is a globalized effort to reset U.S. trade in a way that's beneficial

04:51to the United States, and not just in dollars and cents, but also in our own domestic industrial

04:55capacity. So this has been made clear to countries around the world. We were coming up upon June,

05:01upon the middle of this month, and the markets demand certainty. And so these letters set a baseline.

05:07Now, obviously, that does not foreclose the opportunity for individual countries to enter into

05:13negotiations that perhaps can adjust those numbers. But in the end, the president still remains very

05:18committed to a rebalancing of trade that's fair to America, and also at the same time protects our

05:25own industrial capabilities.

05:26Right. But you're here today meeting with ASEAN countries, and those countries, almost all of them,

05:32got letters this week.

05:34Yeah. But anywhere in the world, well, I guess my point to you is anywhere in the world that would

05:39have traveled this week, they got a letter. So everybody got a letter. And in some cases,

05:43some of these countries got a letter where their tariff rate is lower than some of their neighbors,

05:47or maybe a country somewhere else in the world. So it might even serve as an advantage. But of

05:51course, it's raised. It's an issue. But I wouldn't say it solely defines our relationship with many

05:55of these countries. There are a lot of other issues that we work together on. And I think there was

06:00great enthusiasm that we were here and that we're a part of this. A reminder that next week, we'll have

06:04another high-ranking delegation, including Secretary Lutnik, Deputy Landau from the Department of State,

06:09will be traveling to Japan for the World Expo there. And I'll be involved in talks there as well.

06:17You know, my very first meeting, I don't know if you know this, but when I was sworn in, I went to the

06:22State Department. I gave a speech on these steps. And then my first meeting right out of the box was with

06:27Japan, South Korea, and India. And we've repeated that meeting numerous times since then with that group,

06:33and I meant attention to others. We have a running internal joke with my counterpart from Japan. I have

06:37literally now seen them about eight to 12 times. And our joke is that we see each other more than we

06:42see our own families. And so, you know, these engagements are very important to us. And we're

06:48going to continue to stay very committed. Because this, as I said to all of our partners, this notion

06:53or idea that the United States would ever be distracted by the Indo-Pacific or even Southeast Asia

06:58is impossible. You can't be, I mean, it doesn't always, wars get more attention. But it's impossible

07:04to not be focused. This is where much of the story of the 21st century is going to be written. This is

07:09where two-thirds of economic growth is going to happen over the next 25 or 30 years. And many of

07:14the countries in Southeast Asia, not only are they some of the youngest countries in the world,

07:18but they're about to see an enormous expansion of their labor markets, their labor pool, number of

07:22workers. This is a historic, once-in-a-generation opportunity, not just for these countries to

07:28revolutionize themselves from an economic standpoint, but further strengthen our relationship.

07:33We have over 6,000 American companies that have invested heavily in these economies over the

07:38last 20 or 30 years. These are, we're not abandoning those relationships. On the contrary,

07:43we want to strengthen and build upon them. And there are a bunch of other issues, and certainly trade

07:47is part of it. But there are a lot of other issues that we work together on, and we continue to highly

07:52prioritize that. The story of the 21st century will be written in the Indo-Pacific. And the countries

07:58represented here today, along with others that have joined to be a part of this, represent some of,

08:02not just important markets, some of the most important partners we have in the world.

08:05Last question.

08:07This is obviously a very quick trip. Do you intend to come back to Asia or the Southeast Asian area on a longer trip sometime in the future?

08:15Sure, absolutely. This was a great trip because we got to see, you know, 12, 13, 14, 15 countries that are all here.

08:21So these forums, there'll be a leaders forum here in October, which we look forward to being a part of it.

08:26We've also engaged with many of our colleagues here at different forums, many of them, for example,

08:30not just at the G7 foreign ministers. They also attended on the sidelines of NATO, at the foreign minister level, and also at the leaders level.

08:37So we'll continue to engage with the region, both in Washington and other places around the world, and in our return travel here.

08:44And so we'll be back in addition, and it's not just me. The Secretary of Defense has been out here. The Deputy Secretary of State will be here next week.

08:54So we'll look for other opportunities. Obviously, the leaders forum will be here in October as well. So we'll be here, we'll be engaged as we do every single day.

09:06Secretary, there's a review right now by the administration of the AUKUS deal that the last administration forged, and I think that raises some questions among Asia-Pacific allies and partners about the U.S. defense commitment here in Asia.

09:19What do you say to people who...

09:21Look, any time a new administration takes over, there's a review of all policies. I mean, a review doesn't necessarily mean you're against it.

09:28We did a review at the State Department of our diplomatic presence around the world because I wanted to know which consulates and embassies

09:35could be adjusted both in their size and in their presence. Could we consolidate a presence?

09:40We did a review. We haven't closed any embassies, but we did a review.

09:43So just because you're reviewing something doesn't mean you're going to necessarily act on it.

09:46It means you're a new administration and you want to take an audit and an account about all the policies that you've inherited.

09:51And policies, how they've changed since the last time you were in office when it comes to the Trump administration.

09:56So, but our policies in AUKUS have not changed.

10:00What else?

10:01Are you hopeful on a Gaza ceasefire in the next few days?

10:04Well, we're hopeful. I mean, in the end, we're hoping they'll move to proximity talks.

10:09It appears that generally the terms have been agreed to, but obviously now you need to have talks about how you implement those terms.

10:16And I spoke to Steve Woodcoff last night, and he's optimistic that proximity talks will begin fairly soon, expedited and facilitated by the Qataris and the Egyptians.

10:29And so, but we've seen talks fall apart in the past at that stage of proximity talks.

10:36So I think we're closer. And I think perhaps, you know, we're closer than we've been in quite a while.

10:41And we're hopeful. But we also recognize there's still some challenges in the way.

10:45And, you know, one of the fundamental challenges is Hamas's unwillingness to disarm, which would end this conflict immediately.

10:51If they just release the hostages, there shouldn't be a single hostage. There shouldn't be a single hostage body still left.

10:57If they release that and disarm, this would end.

10:59But that said, the Israelis have shown some flexibility here. And so I think we've made, we've seen progress made.

11:05So we're hopeful, but we also understand that these things are, have been difficult for a reason.

11:10But we are, we're hopeful that they can move to proximity talks pretty quickly and go from there and have a ceasefire in place in the near future.

11:18Are there any sticking points from the Israeli side, such as on aid or the withdrawal of Israeli troops? Where does that stand?

11:25Well, the sticking point would be on the Hamas side. I mean, Hamas basically wants Israel to withdraw completely and allow them to go back to being Hamas.

11:31Obviously, the Israelis aren't going to agree to that. I think the easiest way to end this, that's not what the agreement is, but the easiest way to end this is for all the hostages to be released and for Hamas to disarm.

11:42You know, absent that, the Israelis and Hamas through the intermediation, through the mediation of Qatar and Egypt, have reached an understanding on a 60-day ceasefire and some elements of that with regards to humanitarian aid through international agencies resuming and so forth.

12:00But now you've got to have talks about how do you implement that. And that's where this has fallen apart in the past. We're hopeful that it'll work out. We're doing everything we can.

12:08We'd like to see a ceasefire. The president's been clear he wants to see a ceasefire. And we've invested a lot of time and energy. I know Steve Woodcoff works hours every single day on this topic alone.

12:17So we've invested a lot of time into that. We'd like to see it happen. Okay? All right.

12:24Any eye impersonator of you? Anything you can say about who was behind that?

12:27No, I mean, anybody. It could happen to anybody. I mean, everybody, especially if you're a public figure, they just got to get enough, like, they could take the interview out of here today and change it around.

12:36So, but, you know, as soon as I found out about it last week, I referred it to the FBI, Diplomatic Security, and others.

12:44It won't be the last time you see me or others, for that matter. Maybe some of you will be impersonated.

12:49But it's just a reality of this AI technology that's going on, and it's a real threat. But...

12:55How did you find out?

12:56Oh, somebody called me. It was a senator that called me and said,

12:59Hey, did you just try to reach me and actually sent me a voice recording? It doesn't sound... It doesn't really sound like me.

13:04I mean, if you fell for that call, you know, but maybe there was a better one that I didn't see, you know, but...

13:08It was on Signal, right? So does this...

13:10I don't know how they got it or if it was a voicemail. No, it doesn't matter what form you use.

13:14It doesn't matter if it's Signal or anything else.

13:16There are more secure methods. In Signal, you know, you can create an account with an email, a current address,

13:20and that was one of the reasons that they were able to reach out to people and then use the voicemail messages to imitate your voice.

13:27I've had people in the past ask me if I texted them. Like, within days of becoming Secretary of State,

13:33I had foreign ministers calling the State Department asking if I had just texted them.

13:37So, I don't know, guys. This is just the reality of the 21st century with AI and fake stuff that's going on.

13:44It's... Generally, I communicate with my counterparts around the world through official channels for a reason,

13:51and that's to avoid this. So, you know...

13:56Do you have any sense of who the perpetrator is?

13:58No, I don't have any sense of who the perpetrator is.

14:00The perpetrator is somebody with an AI software. That could be anybody in the world.

14:03My sense is the target really isn't me.

14:05The target is the people they're reaching out to to try and trick them into a call or whatever,

14:09and who knows what they do with it.

14:10But you're going to hear about this for a long time.

14:13I mean, not just me. It'll happen to other people because all you need is a recording of someone's voice,

14:17and you can come up with it. So, yeah, it's just one of the other great challenges posed to us by AI.

14:24I'm sure there's a lot of positive aspects to AI as well, but this ain't one of them.

14:28Secretary of State Marco Rubio speaking earlier today in Malaysia. He was in Kuala Lumpur, I believe.

14:35Live look at Capitol Hill.

14:37I still wish whoever was in charge of this camera would bump the ISO up a little bit.

14:41Looking a little dark out there on Capitol Hill lately.

14:43The White House shining bright, though, as usual.

14:46It is time for us to wrap up our coverage for the evening.

14:48I'm Austin Westfall. We thank you all for watching along with us tonight.

14:53As it stands right now, I do not have any live vantage points from Ventura County, California.

14:59So, what we're going to have to do in the morning, we come back on the air at 6 a.m. Eastern Time.

15:02Our Florida-based newsroom will come back on the air with our morning news,

15:06and we'll give you the latest updates out of L.A. then.

15:09As it stands right now, we still saw active protests at that farm.

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15:16It was getting pretty dark. It was getting kind of tough to see out there.

15:19We do know Fox L.A. is coming on with a 10 p.m. newscast at the top of the hour.

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15:25And again, Live Now comes on tomorrow again live at 6 a.m. Eastern Time.

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17:57Welcome back.

18:00I'm Austin Westfall.

18:01We are going to continue to discuss the crushing situation in central Texas.

18:07We do begin tonight there, where the death toll from the floods stands at at least 120

18:14people, with over 160 people still missing.

18:18It's hard to wrap your head around it.

18:20Retired Marine Intelligence Officer Hal Kemper is here.

18:23Hal has extensive training in disaster preparedness and response.

18:28As always, Hal, we appreciate you joining us.

18:31We've been looking at images like this now for nearly a week.

18:34We are going to paint a grim picture today.

18:37No one has been found alive since Friday, Hal.

18:39It's hard to understand the magnitude of something like this.

18:42Why are over 160 people still missing?

18:48Well, there's a couple reasons, Austin.

18:50First off, you may recall with the Maui fire with Lahaina, there was for a while 1,000 people

18:56missing.

18:57And when it was all said and done, I think it was 102 people were actually deceased.

19:01So, anybody who can't be accounted for, you know, and people are looking right now and

19:07they're saying, well, I haven't heard from so-and-so for this many days, or I can't call

19:11them on their phone, they're not answering, whatever it is.

19:14They just get reported as missing.

19:16So, there is a fairly high missing list.

19:18With that said, though, and you heard it from Fox 4, there were thousands of people camping

19:25along the river, and that water came up so fast and overwhelmed so many, particularly

19:32if they were in a camper where they may not have noticed right away, but even for those

19:37in tents and stuff, that water came up very quickly.

19:41It's the middle of the, you know, it's at night, it's dark, you got rushing water, and

19:46one thing a lot of people don't realize, they may say, well, the water is only, you

19:50know, waist deep or whatever.

19:51Yes, but it's rushing water, and it's night, and you can't see in the water.

19:58And what can often happen is people get, they don't know where, they can't see where they're

20:02stepping, they trip or misstep, they fall, they go in the water, and frankly, a lot of

20:10things can happen underwater.

20:11They can get knocked unconscious or whatever, and they just don't get out of there.

20:14So, I wouldn't say everyone should apply Lahaina as an example of what will happen here.

20:20I think the numbers are going to go up considerably, but when you look at the debris field, you

20:25know, where all those trees that were uprooted, all the other debris that was uprooted, somewhere

20:31in there lie victims.

20:34And it is a very slow, painstaking process.

20:38The other problem is that flash flood moved all, there was all that alluvial movement of

20:44dirt and debris, so even when they go through all the debris fields and the trees and everything

20:52else, many of the victims are probably buried underground.

20:57And that's going to be a much more difficult process.

21:00And we had a big flash flood in Central California, and there was a tremendous amount of searching

21:08for a little boy that was lost, they never could find him.

21:12And the assumption is...

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