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A canadense Yasmine Mohammed foi obrigada a usar a burca na infância, depois que sua mãe divorciada casou-se com um muçulmano radical. Aos 19 anos, foi obrigada a se casar com um terrorista da Al Qaeda, mesmo vivendo no democrático e pacato Canadá. Quando estava grávida, ela conseguiu escapar de sua sina. Livre, tornou-se uma das vozes mais corajosas em defesa das mulheres que vivem em países de maioria islâmica. Para o Crusoé Entrevistas, Yasmine conta a própria história e fala do seu livro Unvealed: How the West Empowers Radical Muslim (Sem o véu: como o Ocidente empodera os radicais islâmicos, em tradução livre).
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00:00Olá, seja muito bem-vindo, esse é mais um Cruzoé Entrevistas.
00:16Eu sou o Duda Teixeira e hoje a gente tem uma convidada muito especial.
00:21A gente vai conversar aqui com a Yasmin Mohamed,
00:25ela que é uma ativista de direitos humanos, tem uma história impressionante.
00:33A Yasmin tem família egípcia, também tem família que vive na faixa de Gaza,
00:40mas nasceu no Canadá, foi casada com um terrorista da Al-Qaeda,
00:47criou uma ONG que chama Free Hearts, Free Minds,
00:50que ajuda muita gente que também acaba sendo vítima do radicalismo islâmico.
00:59E ela também publicou em inglês, esse livro está sendo traduzido para o português,
01:05que chama Sem Novel, o Desvelada,
01:08como a esquerda promove o radicalismo islâmico.
01:14Vou chamar ela aqui com a gente.
01:18Yasmin, hi, good to talk to you.
01:21Thank you for accepting our invitation.
01:25My pleasure.
01:26Olá, Duda, I'm very, very happy to be here with you today.
01:29Great.
01:30Bom, eu vou conversar com ela em inglês
01:33e a gente vai ter aqui a legenda aqui logo embaixo, certo?
01:37Yasmin, eu estou ouvindo algumas entrevistas que você recebeu a muitos veículos de mídia no tempo,
01:46e você tem uma história impressionante, uma história incrível.
01:53Então, eu gostaria de começar a nossa entrevista
01:56pedindo-lhe por favor, por favor, introduz-se,
01:59porque você tem uma família egípcia e também tem uma família na Gaza Strip.
02:09Você foi casada com um terrorista na Al-Qaeda,
02:13mas você foi nascido em Canadá.
02:15Então, você pode me contar mais sobre você?
02:19Sim, sim, é uma história muito interessante,
02:23quando você coloca tudo em uma frase assim,
02:25mas, sim, meu pai é de Gaza,
02:29ele cresceu lá e, naquela época,
02:32Gaza estava under a autoridade de Egypt,
02:34e então, quando ele foi able para ir para a universidade,
02:37ele foi para a universidade em Egypt,
02:39e aí é onde ele conheceu a minha mãe.
02:41E a dois de eles
02:42mudaram para San Francisco,
02:44em América,
02:45onde eles tinham minha irmãs,
02:47e aí, depois, eles mudaram para Canadá,
02:49onde eles tinham minha irmãs e eu.
02:51Agora, at the time,
02:53eles eram muito secular,
02:54muito open-minded,
02:55muito free-thinking pessoas.
02:56Sim, eles eram de uma família de muslim,
02:58mas eles não eram em nenhum modo político,
03:00eles não eram,
03:01eles eram,
03:01eles eram problemas,
03:04mas então,
03:06o seu relacionamento
03:07foi apart,
03:08e eles foram divorciados,
03:09e meu pai foi para o outro lado de Canadá,
03:12e meu pai stayed
03:13em Vancouver,
03:15e ela ficou radicalizada,
03:18então,
03:18isso é algo que é muito comum
03:20em,
03:21no,
03:22no,
03:22no,
03:22no 80s,
03:24no 70s,
03:25no 80s,
03:26no 80s,
03:26quando você found,
03:27no,
03:28no political Islam
03:29estava viajado
03:31all across the Middle East
03:32e no West,
03:33e agora você can ver
03:34a resulta de isso
03:35ainda mais agora,
03:37com muito mais
03:38e mais radicalização.
03:39Quando minha mãe era
03:40era de casse,
03:41não era de casse,
03:42ninguém de casse,
03:43não era de casse.
03:44Você nunca viu a casse
03:45unless era de casse,
03:46no,
03:46no,
03:46no,
03:46no,
03:46na,
03:47Mas agora, em Egypt, quase todo mundo está vestindo hijab.
03:52E então, minha mãe, com essa wave de islamização que estava acontecendo,
03:59ela também se tornou radicalizado.
04:03E é como eu acabo de ser colocado em hijab em 9 anos,
04:09indo para as escolas de islamismo,
04:11sendo forced into a marriage com um terrorista de Al Qaeda,
04:15e eu tenho que usar naqal,
04:17então, covered head-to-toe em branco,
04:19não até mesmo meus olhos showing,
04:21eu estava vestindo de roupa,
04:22não permiti-me deixar o casa.
04:25Então, foi minha infância em um muito, muito breve.
04:33Onde você conheceu seu marido?
04:37Bem, isso é uma outra história.
04:41So, he was known as a terrorist in Egypt.
04:46So, the Egyptian authorities took away his citizenship.
04:50They took away his passport because he was no longer, he was considered like persona non grata.
04:55And he was in Afghanistan with Bin Laden at that time.
05:02And they wanted him to come to Canada so that he could be part of, you know, the 9-11.
05:10And he couldn't come because he didn't have a passport.
05:16And so, they gave him a fake Saudi Arabian passport.
05:20So, it's pretty crazy to think that an Egyptian man coming from Afghanistan to Canada with a fake Saudi Arabian passport was allowed in the country.
05:30But he was.
05:31And when my mother found him, she felt very grateful that there was finally a man who she felt was strong enough to control me.
05:41Because up until then, you know, she had previously tried to force me into a marriage with my cousin.
05:47And I got myself out.
05:49And my whole childhood, you know, if you read my book, it's just a series of me trying to escape this life and being unsuccessful.
05:59And so, she felt like finally this man is someone who can keep this girl in line.
06:05Well, Jasmine, well, so you have now family in Gaza, right?
06:14How do Gazans see the Hamas?
06:19Well, I'll tell you about my father.
06:22He was devastated and very angry and humiliated that the world equated Hamas with Gazans.
06:29So, my father was a peace activist.
06:32Unfortunately, he left us in 2019.
06:37So, he didn't see what happened on October 7th.
06:40But, you know, in a way, I'm kind of glad he didn't.
06:43Because he would have realized at that moment that there would be no hope for his homeland to ever return to the way it was when he was young and the way he wanted to see it become again.
06:54So, you know, I understand that, obviously, there are a lot of indoctrinated people in Gaza.
07:03I have no doubt.
07:03I have seen the cartoons.
07:05I have seen the school, the teachers, the curriculum.
07:10I know that there is a lot of indoctrination to hate Jewish people.
07:15Well, I'm very familiar with the religion and how it teaches so much anti-Semitism, and not just towards Jewish people, but towards anyone who is non-Muslim.
07:28So much hate towards them.
07:29So, I'm familiar.
07:31I understand that it is a problem.
07:32But, you know, it's important to remember that there are bits of light, that there are people like my father in Gaza today, even, who hate Hamas and who want to be freed from Hamas.
07:47You know, recently, I interviewed a young man named Hamza, who was, he was imprisoned by Hamas because he protested in Gaza.
07:59And so he was able to escape from Gaza to Germany.
08:03This is before October 7th, thousands of people were running away from Gaza, seeking refugee status, wherever they could go, to get away from Hamas, to get away from this terrorist organization that had, you know, gripped their homeland.
08:22So it's important to remember that even before this war, the Gaza people were suffering, you know, now they're suffering even more, of course, because they're in a war.
08:31So there's more physical danger.
08:34But they have always been terrorized by Hamas ever since they came into power.
08:41Okay.
08:41Yasmin, you did a great interview with Hamza.
08:45We've published a piece about it here at Cruzo Air.
08:48Congratulations.
08:50Yasmin, are you familiar with the situation of women in the Gaza Strip?
08:55Yes, it's abysmal.
08:57It's absolutely horrible.
08:58There are no freedoms for women under any Islamic regimes, whether we're talking Iran or we're talking Afghanistan or even the ones that we like to pretend are getting progressive, like Saudi Arabia or anyone.
09:13Sudan, Somalia, you name me, the Muslim-majority country, and I will show you women who are being persecuted.
09:18And so in Gaza, it was no different.
09:21In fact, it was, in some ways, even more difficult for women there because there were no avenues for any kind of support or any kind of freedom.
09:33There's no domestic violence centers, for example, for women.
09:37There's, you know, they're being controlled by terrorists who believe that men have the right to beat their wives.
09:46And so who are these women going to go complain to?
09:49You know, the entire society is working against them.
09:53So, and, you know, child marriage in Gaza, unfortunately, is a huge problem, the youngest of kids being married off.
10:05And it's the same thing you'll see in Yemen and, you know, in Afghanistan and all over the Muslim-majority world, unfortunately.
10:12But, yeah, it's an abysmal situation for women, for gay people, and for, you know, anybody who believes in any kind of freedom.
10:20Yasmin, are feminists in the West aware of the situation of women in these Muslim-majority countries?
10:31You know, it's really crazy that, especially with the woman life freedom movement in Iran, these women were literally risking their lives, standing in front of the IRGC, taking off their hijabs and burning them in these big bonfires.
10:48And these women were being imprisoned, were being killed, they were being raped to death, they were being beaten to death.
10:55Their stories were all over.
10:57You know, they tried so hard to get their voices out.
11:02And it's quite miraculous that they were able to get their voices out, because you don't hear the voices of the women from all of these other countries,
11:08because of how totalitarian these societies that they live in are.
11:14But somehow these Iranian women were able to get their voices out.
11:18And you really assumed that once they were able to finally show the world the truth of what it's like to live under an Islamic regime,
11:26that the feminists of the world would unite to support them and support their cause.
11:31But that hasn't been the case, unfortunately.
11:34They've had to suffer such betrayal, because fellow feminists look at them and they say,
11:40oh, we don't want to support you because we don't want to seem Islamophobic.
11:45You know, they're more willing to support an Islamic regime that terrorizes women, that forces, you know,
11:51these are, I'm not even, you know, there are so many things, there are so many stories that it almost feels unbelievable.
12:00You know, the fact that women can't sing, they can't ride a bike, they can't paint their nails with nail polish,
12:08you know, like the tiniest freedoms are taken away from them.
12:12Forget the fact that they can't choose, you know, under male guardianship laws.
12:17They can't choose when they leave the house or when to travel or where to go to school or if they can open a bank account.
12:25Big things, little things, all things.
12:28You know, in Afghanistan, girls can't even go to school.
12:31They can't even learn how to read.
12:33They can't even be educated.
12:35Every aspect of a woman's freedom is taken away from her.
12:39And we were only trying to show the world the physical aspect.
12:44We were only trying to show them the hijab, something that is so easy to understand.
12:49You know, it's the tip of the iceberg.
12:51But we thought it's something that's so visual.
12:54It's something that's so physical that there's no question that people will understand what we're trying to say.
13:01But somehow the world didn't understand or chose not to understand.
13:08Yasmin, when there was the terrorist attack in Israel in October 7 by Hamas,
13:16terrorists raped and killed lots of women.
13:22And there was not an outcry among lots of feminist groups in the West.
13:31What is the problem with the feminists in the West?
13:34I mean, that's a very big question, and I wish I had the answer.
13:39But you can see it's a common thing, right?
13:42You can see when the Yazidi women were being raped and taken as sex slaves by ISIS,
13:48they also didn't stand for Yazidi women.
13:50You could see when the Nigerian Christian girls were being taken by Boko Haram,
13:55they didn't stand with those girls.
13:56You could see when the Hindu girls in Pakistan are being kidnapped from their families,
14:01forced into Islamic marriages, nobody is speaking up for them.
14:06You know, this is happening all over the world all the time.
14:10And when it happened to the Israeli women,
14:13and I forgot to mention something that you might be familiar with too,
14:17is even in Britain, in the United Kingdom,
14:20when British girls were being kidnapped and forced into rape gangs,
14:24there was also nobody to speak up for them.
14:27And in fact, the journalists and the politicians who did speak up for them
14:31lost their jobs and lost their reputations.
14:34And so when it happened in Israel,
14:37it was a continuation of this same thing,
14:40where whenever these men are terrorizing women,
14:46nobody wants to speak up for them.
14:48Nobody wants to speak up for the victims
14:50because they are too busy protecting the terrorizers.
14:54There is this, I don't understand it,
14:58but for whatever reason,
14:59they see a perpetrator and they see a victim.
15:02And if the perpetrator is a Muslim,
15:03they say, oh, we can't support the victim
15:06because that would make us Islamophobic or racist or xenophobic or something.
15:11And so then they leave these women
15:12to continue to be victimized all over the world.
15:16And it's absolutely horrific.
15:19And it's very,
15:20very frustrating.
15:21And when I saw it happen to Israeli women,
15:23it broke my heart because I know what that feels like.
15:27I know what that feels like when you are being ignored.
15:30You know,
15:30we have been screaming,
15:32women from all over the Muslim majority world have been screaming for so long
15:36about the honor killings,
15:39about the beheadings,
15:40about the way women are treated all over the Muslim world,
15:44being killed over having a social media account
15:48or because she wore jeans or,
15:51you know,
15:51for the most ridiculous reasons,
15:54they will take women
15:56and they will treat them like,
15:59you know,
16:01absolute vermin.
16:02And we have been screaming about this for so long
16:06and we have been ignored.
16:08You know,
16:08women in all of these societies that I mentioned before
16:11are all being taken as sex slaves,
16:13are all being used and discarded
16:17and nobody is speaking up for them.
16:19So when I saw that nobody was speaking up for Israeli women
16:22and so many people were denying it,
16:25even though we all saw the videos,
16:28it was just beyond devastating.
16:31I didn't believe that,
16:33I couldn't believe that the world could be so cruel.
16:37Yasmin,
16:38your NGO,
16:40Free Hearts,
16:40Free Minds,
16:41helps people
16:42that has to deal with this
16:46Islamist radical.
16:49What do people usually ask for you,
16:53for your organization?
16:55What are their needs?
16:58There are so many needs.
17:00We are the only NGO on the planet
17:03that is committed to supporting
17:04this demographic of people.
17:07So you can imagine
17:08the needs are incredibly diverse
17:10and incredibly numerous.
17:13You know,
17:13just recently,
17:15we had a young man named Abdullah
17:17who was able to escape from Mauritania,
17:21which,
17:21you know,
17:21because we are the only organization in the world
17:23that does this work,
17:24we have people from all over the planet
17:26reaching out to us.
17:28So he's from a small country called Mauritania,
17:31which is run by Sharia,
17:33which is run by Islamic law.
17:35And his sister suffered
17:37just absolutely horrific
17:40female genital mutilation
17:42as a punishment
17:44because she wanted to take off her hijab.
17:47And,
17:47you know,
17:47he just comes from a,
17:49it's a very difficult society
17:51to live in,
17:52a very Muslim-centered society.
17:53And he was able to,
17:55you know,
17:56escape to New York.
17:58We were able to support him
18:00with not only his mental health,
18:02but we were able to get him a lawyer
18:03and to connect him
18:04through other organizations
18:06to get support.
18:07And so,
18:09you know,
18:09he's just one example
18:10of many,
18:11many.
18:12Unfortunately,
18:12we can only support
18:14about 10% of the people
18:16who contact us
18:17because there's so many people
18:18that contact us
18:19from all over the world.
18:21and we are,
18:23of course,
18:23limited by our funding.
18:25And so,
18:25we can only grow
18:26to support
18:28as many people,
18:29you know,
18:30a small amount of people
18:31at the moment.
18:32But we hope to grow bigger
18:33and to be able to support
18:34more and more people
18:35across the globe.
18:38Okay.
18:39Yasmin,
18:40how do you explain
18:42the protest,
18:43pro-Palestine protest
18:45in dozens
18:46of American
18:48and Canadian
18:50universities?
18:51Do you think it was,
18:53they were something
18:54spontaneous?
18:56No,
18:56not at all.
18:57I don't think
18:58it was spontaneous.
18:59I think that the Kindle
19:00had been set
19:01for a very long time,
19:03that they had been
19:03preparing themselves
19:04for years.
19:05I wrote my book
19:06at the end of 2019
19:08where I was warning
19:09about these kinds
19:11of things
19:11and how I could see
19:13that it was going
19:13to happen.
19:15And October 7th,
19:17really all they had
19:18to do was light
19:19a match
19:19and very quickly
19:20all of their,
19:22you know,
19:24all of their plans
19:25just came into focus.
19:27I think it's,
19:28you know,
19:29it's very frustrating
19:31that I have been
19:33screaming about this
19:34for so long
19:34and people would
19:36look at me
19:36and they'd think
19:37I was an alarmist.
19:38They would think
19:39that I,
19:40you know,
19:40they couldn't see
19:41what I could see,
19:42really.
19:42They didn't have
19:43my perspective.
19:44I was married
19:45to a terrorist,
19:46you know,
19:47like I lived
19:48that life.
19:48I understand
19:49that life.
19:50I understand
19:51the danger
19:52and a lot
19:53of people
19:53that I was
19:54trying to reach,
19:55people in Canada,
19:56people in America,
19:57people in Australia,
19:58all over the Western world,
20:00they didn't have
20:01the same knowledge
20:03that I had.
20:04They didn't have
20:04the same perspective
20:05that I had
20:05and they didn't
20:06want to listen
20:07because it was
20:07an ugly story
20:08and they didn't
20:09want to acknowledge it
20:11and they didn't
20:11want to deal with it.
20:13But unfortunately
20:13on October 7th,
20:14everybody was forced
20:15to see it.
20:16Everybody was forced
20:17to acknowledge it.
20:18Everybody is now
20:19forced to deal with it.
20:21So in a way,
20:23it has brought
20:25everything to light.
20:27You know,
20:27now that we see
20:28these people
20:29all over Canada,
20:31for example,
20:31with their megaphones,
20:34you know,
20:34celebrating October 7th,
20:36saying we want to see
20:37October 7th happen
20:38a thousand times.
20:41You know,
20:41we see people
20:42walking around
20:43with swastikas.
20:45We see people
20:47celebrating Iran
20:49and asking Iran
20:51to burn Tel Aviv
20:52to the ground.
20:53You know,
20:54we see these calls
20:55to violence
20:56where people feel
20:57so empowered
20:58to publicly
21:00call for such violence.
21:03Well,
21:03the reason why
21:03they feel so empowered
21:04today
21:05is because
21:06for years
21:07and years
21:07and years
21:08and years,
21:08they have been
21:09taking slow
21:10steps
21:11towards this
21:12and nobody
21:13has stopped them.
21:14They have just felt
21:15empowered
21:16every single step
21:17of the way
21:18and so they have
21:19now become
21:19so emboldened
21:21that they can
21:22say what they want
21:23to say
21:23on these university
21:24campuses
21:25or all over our cities,
21:26even on our subways
21:28if they feel like it.
21:29going and harassing
21:32Jewish people
21:33in their homes,
21:34harassing Jewish
21:35neighborhoods
21:35in London
21:36and in Toronto.
21:38You know,
21:39this is the slow
21:41empowerment
21:42that they have been,
21:44you know,
21:46that they have been
21:47enjoying
21:48all these years
21:49because we refused
21:51to put our foot down.
21:52If we saw this kind
21:54of anti-Semitism
21:54coming from
21:55the right wing,
21:57you know,
21:57if coming from
21:58neo-Nazis,
22:00if we saw this kind
22:01of racism
22:01coming from the KKK,
22:03we would have responded,
22:04we would have reacted
22:05but we had Muslims
22:07every single year,
22:09every single year
22:10they would be
22:10in the streets
22:11on their Al-Quds rallies
22:13screaming about
22:14khaybar khaybar,
22:16you know,
22:16calling for a genocide
22:17of the Jewish people
22:19and nobody ever
22:20said anything.
22:21Nobody ever
22:22stopped them.
22:22In fact,
22:23they were just,
22:24everybody just
22:25capitulated to them
22:26because everybody
22:27was too scared
22:28that they might end
22:29up being called
22:30Islamophobic
22:31and so that's why
22:33they were able
22:33to feel more and more
22:34and more and more
22:35empowered over the years
22:36and if I could just
22:37take a moment
22:38to talk about
22:39the word Islamophobia
22:40for a second
22:40because the reason
22:42why this word
22:43was created
22:44by Islamists
22:45in Iran,
22:46in fact,
22:47is because
22:47it was meant
22:49to stifle
22:50any criticism
22:51of the religion.
22:53They tried
22:53for many,
22:54many years
22:55at the UN level
22:56to create
22:57a top-down
22:58blasphemy law
22:59to stop people
23:00from criticizing
23:01Islam
23:01and it was
23:02never successful
23:03and so instead
23:04they did a bottom-up
23:05and they chose
23:06a word
23:07Islamophobia.
23:08It sounds like
23:09homophobia,
23:10xenophobia,
23:11it sounds like
23:12all of these
23:12left-wing
23:13progressive words
23:14that they thought,
23:15oh,
23:15this is a good thing,
23:16you know,
23:17we will support
23:18anti-bigotry
23:21if we use this word
23:23and they were
23:23used as useful
23:24idiots.
23:25They were used
23:26as useful
23:27idiots to play
23:28the role
23:29of the regime
23:30all over the
23:32Western world
23:33and to stifle
23:34any criticism
23:35of this religion.
23:39Yasmin,
23:40we have here
23:41in Brazil
23:42some leftist
23:44politicians
23:45promoting Hamas.
23:47One was a member
23:48of,
23:49is a member
23:49of the Workers'
23:50Party,
23:51the PT,
23:52and also
23:53Partido da Causa
23:54Operária,
23:55o PCO,
23:56PCO,
23:57is clearly
23:58promoting Hamas
24:00on social networks.
24:01How can you
24:02explain that
24:03these leftist
24:04politicians
24:05tend to
24:06promote
24:07terrorists
24:08like Hamas?
24:10You know,
24:11it's really shocking
24:11that anybody
24:12can promote
24:13a terrorist.
24:14You know,
24:14we know
24:15what these
24:15terrorists
24:15have done.
24:16We know
24:17about the
24:17innocent people
24:18that they
24:18have taken
24:19hostage.
24:19We know
24:20about the
24:20people that
24:21they have
24:21killed.
24:22We know
24:22about the
24:22babies.
24:24We know
24:24about the
24:24women that
24:25they have
24:25raped.
24:26It's so
24:27shocking
24:28that somebody
24:29could support
24:30terrorists.
24:31And what's
24:31even more
24:32shocking
24:32is that
24:33people
24:34believe them
24:36and people
24:36agree
24:37and they
24:37continue to
24:39support the
24:40person who
24:40is supporting
24:41the terrorists.
24:41So it's
24:42a pretty
24:43abysmal,
24:44you know,
24:45sad state
24:46of humanity
24:47that this
24:47is happening.
24:48But although
24:49from the
24:50first glance
24:51it looks
24:52pretty crazy,
24:53if you look
24:54back all the
24:55way,
24:55I mean,
24:55this has
24:56happened all
24:56over the
24:57Middle East.
24:58This is the
24:58thing.
24:59It started
24:59in Iran
25:00with the
25:00Islamic
25:01regime and
25:01it continued
25:02all over
25:03the Middle
25:03East and
25:04now it's
25:04happening in
25:05the West.
25:05But this
25:06is a story
25:06that we have
25:07seen over
25:08and over
25:08and over
25:09again.
25:09So quite
25:10often the
25:11left wing
25:12will align
25:13with the
25:14Islamists
25:14because they
25:15have a
25:15shared hate
25:16for Western
25:17values.
25:18They have a
25:18shared hate
25:19for freedoms
25:20and democracies
25:21that we
25:21hold dear.
25:22And so
25:23they think
25:24of it like
25:25the enemy
25:25of my enemy
25:26is my
25:26friend.
25:27And so
25:27they align
25:28together.
25:29Well,
25:29let me tell
25:29you a story
25:30of what
25:30happened in
25:31Iran when
25:32the communists
25:33and the
25:33socialists
25:34aligned with
25:35the Islamic
25:35regime so
25:36that the
25:36Islamic
25:37regime
25:37could come
25:38to power.
25:39As soon
25:39as they
25:40came to
25:40power,
25:41they murdered,
25:42they imprisoned
25:43and disappeared
25:45all of the
25:46leaders of
25:46all the
25:47communists
25:48and all
25:48of the
25:48socialist
25:49parties.
25:49They just
25:50got rid
25:50of all
25:50the useful
25:51idiots
25:51because they
25:52were no
25:52longer useful
25:53to them
25:54anymore.
25:55So for
25:55them to,
25:57for now
25:57history to
25:58be repeating
25:59itself over
25:59and over
26:00and over
26:00again and
26:00for us
26:01now to
26:01see in
26:02the West
26:02the left
26:03wing
26:04supporting
26:05terrorists
26:05because let's
26:06not forget
26:07Hamas were
26:08funded by
26:08Iran.
26:09This is all
26:10one big,
26:10it's a repetition
26:12of the same
26:13story.
26:14You know,
26:14history keeps
26:15on repeating
26:15itself and
26:16they're not
26:17learning.
26:18They're not
26:19learning from
26:19history and
26:20recognizing that
26:21no, the
26:22enemy of your
26:23enemy is not
26:24your friend.
26:25You know,
26:25the Islamists
26:27hate you as
26:29much as they
26:30hate all the
26:31other non-Muslims.
26:32You are not
26:33special.
26:33You are not
26:34different.
26:34They are just
26:34using you at
26:35this point
26:36in time
26:36because they
26:37want to get
26:38what they
26:38want and
26:39both of them
26:39think they're
26:40smart and
26:40both of them
26:41think that
26:41they're using
26:42each other
26:42towards this
26:43goal of
26:44basically,
26:46you know,
26:47anti-Western
26:48sentiment.
26:49Okay.
26:50Yasmin, the
26:51title of your
26:52book is
26:52Unveal,
26:53How the
26:54West Empowers
26:55Radical
26:56Muslims,
26:57right?
26:58Well,
26:59Unveal,
26:59I think you
27:00are talking
27:01about the
27:01hijab.
27:02Can the
27:03hijab be
27:04considered as
27:05a feminist
27:05symbol?
27:08Oh, my
27:09goodness.
27:10I am not
27:11sure how
27:12something that
27:13is forced on
27:14little girls
27:15and as they
27:16are told that
27:17they need to
27:18cover themselves
27:19so that men
27:20don't rape them.
27:21I don't know
27:22how that can be
27:22considered feminist.
27:24You know, when
27:24you look at the
27:25definition of
27:26victim blaming,
27:28if you look at
27:28the definition of
27:29rape culture,
27:30you'll be very
27:31difficult for
27:32you to find
27:33examples of
27:34this anywhere
27:34in the world
27:35as easily as
27:36it would be
27:36for you to
27:37find the
27:37example in
27:38the hijab
27:39and the way
27:40that it is
27:40forced on
27:41girls, the
27:42way that girls
27:42are imprisoned
27:43and killed
27:44over hijabs.
27:45So I don't
27:46understand how
27:47it can be
27:47considered a
27:48feminist symbol.
27:49It turns my
27:50stomach.
27:52You know, part
27:52of the reason
27:53why I wrote
27:53my book was
27:54because during
27:55the 2016
27:56Women's March
27:57in Washington,
27:58D.C.,
27:58one of the
27:59symbols on
28:00their posters
28:00was a woman
28:02in a hijab.
28:03She took
28:03an American
28:04flag, the
28:06quintessential
28:07symbol of
28:08freedom and
28:09liberty, and
28:10she put it
28:10on her head
28:11like a hijab.
28:13And it was
28:14like the
28:14antithesis of
28:16the American
28:16flag.
28:17It's the
28:17antithesis of
28:18freedom and
28:19liberty.
28:20And it's
28:20such a
28:21betrayal.
28:22You know,
28:22we're not
28:23talking about
28:23history here,
28:24Duda.
28:24We're talking
28:25about now.
28:27You know,
28:27now girls are
28:29being raped to
28:29death.
28:30and beaten
28:31to death
28:32over the
28:32hijab and
28:33being, you
28:35know,
28:35decapitated over
28:37the hijab.
28:38In Canada,
28:38in my country,
28:39a 16-year-old
28:40girl was
28:41suffocated to
28:43death with
28:44the hijab that
28:45she refused to
28:46wear.
28:46So how can we
28:47ignore all of
28:48this and then
28:49pretend that it
28:50is a feminist
28:51symbol?
28:53It's such a
28:54betrayal to
28:54feminism and
28:55such a betrayal
28:56to all of these
28:57girls and women
28:58who are forced
28:59to wear that
29:00and to live
29:01under these
29:01regimes.
29:03Okay.
29:04And Yasmin,
29:05how the West
29:06empowers radical
29:08Muslims?
29:10You know,
29:11mostly they do
29:12that through
29:12moral relativism
29:14and cultural
29:15relativism.
29:16So in my book,
29:17I tell the story
29:17of how when I
29:19was 12 years
29:19old,
29:20I went to
29:22one of my
29:23teachers who
29:24went to the
29:24police,
29:25who went to
29:25child services
29:26and we were
29:28talking about
29:28all of the
29:29abuse that was
29:29happening in
29:30my house.
29:31And in the
29:32end,
29:32the judge
29:32said to me,
29:33this is your
29:34culture,
29:35this is your
29:35religion,
29:35this is how
29:36your family
29:36chooses to
29:38discipline you,
29:39so there's
29:39nothing I can
29:40do for you.
29:41So, you know,
29:42in the same
29:42way that if a
29:43young girl is
29:44a victim of
29:46FGM,
29:47for example,
29:48a female genital
29:49mutilation,
29:49which is very
29:50common in my
29:51mother's country
29:52of Egypt,
29:53if a girl is
29:55a victim of
29:55that,
29:56there will be
29:57no deterrent
29:59for her family
30:00to not do
30:03that to their
30:03other daughters.
30:05You know,
30:05even if the
30:05authorities find
30:06out,
30:07because quite
30:07often there are
30:08complications and
30:09then the doctors
30:10will find out
30:10what happened,
30:11they will give
30:12the family a
30:13pamphlet,
30:14an educational
30:15pamphlet to
30:16teach them,
30:17hey, you know
30:17what, don't take
30:18a razor blade and
30:19cut off your
30:20daughter's clitoris,
30:21it's not a good
30:21idea.
30:22They don't
30:23need that.
30:24They need to
30:24be put in
30:25prison, you
30:26know.
30:26If this was a
30:27blonde-haired,
30:28blue-eyed mother
30:29or father doing
30:30that to their
30:31child, that
30:32person would be
30:33in a psychiatric
30:34ward or would
30:34be in prison.
30:35But because it's
30:36Sudanese or
30:37Egyptian or
30:38whatever, then
30:39they ignore it,
30:40you know.
30:40They ignore the
30:42atrocities that
30:43are happening
30:44depending on
30:45the ethnicity or
30:46the religion of
30:47the perpetrator.
30:48So this is one
30:50of the major
30:50problems, is
30:52liberalism needs
30:53to have some
30:53sort of border.
30:56We need to have
30:56some red lines.
30:57We need to have
30:58boundaries where
31:00we say, you
31:01know, yes, we
31:02tolerate all
31:03kinds, but we do
31:05not tolerate abuse
31:06of children.
31:06We do not tolerate
31:07abuse of girls.
31:09We do not, you
31:09know, we have to
31:10have lines where
31:11we say we do not
31:12tolerate this, but
31:13we fail in that.
31:15We fail in that in
31:16the West where we
31:17say, oh, it's
31:18religious freedom,
31:18religious freedom,
31:19religious freedom,
31:20and we allow
31:20people to
31:22perpetuate these
31:23abuses and we
31:24allow the victims
31:25to pile up because
31:27we don't want to
31:28stand in the way of
31:29somebody because of
31:31their religion or
31:31because of their
31:32culture.
31:33So what we have to
31:34do is we have to
31:35start to treat
31:36everybody equally,
31:38all perpetrators
31:39equally, one law
31:40for all, regardless
31:42of your ethnicity,
31:43regardless of your
31:44religion.
31:44if you are
31:45crossing this
31:47line, you know,
31:48if you have
31:49broken the law, if
31:51you have caused
31:52harm to another
31:54person, then you
31:55need to suffer the
31:56consequences of
31:57that regardless of
31:59who you are or
31:59what your skin
32:00color is.
32:01And on the other
32:02side of that, all
32:03kids need to be
32:05protected, all
32:06girls need to be
32:07protected, you
32:08know, regardless of
32:09what their skin
32:09color is or what
32:10their ethnicity is
32:12as well.
32:13And so we have
32:13like this two
32:14tiered system
32:15where when Muslims
32:16do something, we
32:17capitulate to them
32:18and we allow them
32:19to continue.
32:20Similar to the
32:21example I was
32:22giving you about
32:23the Al-Quds
32:23rallies, where they
32:24can scream their
32:25anti-Semitism in
32:26the streets every
32:27single year in
32:28every major city
32:29across the West.
32:30Nobody ever said
32:31anything to them.
32:33Everything was
32:33okay, you know,
32:35but you would
32:35never see that
32:36kind of capitulation
32:37being allowed for
32:39any other kinds of
32:40groups who are
32:41just as hateful and
32:43who are screaming
32:43anti-Semitism in
32:44the streets.
32:45They would never
32:45allow it.
32:46So that's one of
32:48the major ways
32:50that we empower
32:52these radical
32:53Muslims.
32:54And then you can
32:54see the results of
32:55this.
32:55I mean, you spoke
32:56about it yourself,
32:57the way we see
32:58them on the
32:59university campuses
33:00all across the
33:01West supporting
33:02terrorists.
33:03This is the result
33:05of empowering
33:06radical Muslims to
33:08the point that
33:08they can feel so
33:10empowered that they
33:11can do this so
33:12publicly.
33:14Great.
33:16Yasmin, very
33:17thank you for your
33:18answer.
33:19It was a great
33:20interview.
33:21Congratulations
33:21for your work.
33:23And I hope you can
33:24publish your book
33:26in Portuguese.
33:28I hope so, too.
33:30Thank you so much.
33:31Thank you.
33:32Bye-bye.
33:33Bye-bye.
33:34Bom, eu falei com a
33:37Yasmin Mohamed, ela que
33:39tem essa organização
33:40Free Minds, Free Hearts,
33:42tem esse livro, Unvealed,
33:45como a esquerda
33:47fortalece ou promove
33:48o radicalismo islâmico.
33:51É isso, eu sou o Duda
33:53Teixeira e esse foi mais
33:54um Cruzoé Entrevistas.
33:56Tchau, até a próxima.
33:57Tchau, tchau.
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