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The Never Ever Mets Season 2 Episode 11
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00:00This season on The Never Ever Mess,
00:02seven couples who had only swiped, texted, video chatted,
00:06finally came face to face for the very first time.
00:09Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:10I don't got no underwear on off.
00:12First day, no underwear.
00:14For three wild weeks, the couples
00:16lived under one roof, putting their virtual love
00:18to the ultimate real world test.
00:20Ooh, there we go.
00:22At the end of the day, it all leads to one question.
00:25Are you moving forward as a couple,
00:27or are you walking away solo?
00:29They took on activities designed
00:31to test their chemistry.
00:35Faced family members not afraid to speak their minds.
00:38I've never seen you date anybody that was this barbaric.
00:42And worked with relationship experts
00:43to tackle their biggest issues.
00:45People with a history of trauma and anxiety
00:47can lean into over control.
00:49No longer able to hide behind their screens.
00:52What's better, online dating or in real life?
00:55Online.
00:57Each couple had to confront their realities
00:59of their relationships head on.
01:00Toxic, toxic, toxic.
01:02She was disrespectful, and you needed to say that.
01:04Get the out of here.
01:06Four couples stuck it out to the end.
01:07To the Elite Eight.
01:10But only two left together, hand in hand.
01:13Of course I'll leave with you, Christopher.
01:15Tonight, our seven lovely ladies will reunite with the fellas
01:22for the first time in six months.
01:30I'm nervous a little bit.
01:31Are we really ready to see them?
01:33I got to hold on.
01:34So get ready to rehash the drama.
01:35This drink must be in your face.
01:36The growth.
01:37I never would've thought you would've planned this little date.
01:38The boom-boomin'.
01:39Take us to the boom-boom room.
01:40And all the bombshell secrets no one saw coming.
01:41I don't have one, could I have four?
01:42I just had a kid too, dude.
01:43What?
01:44Welcome, ladies.
01:45Now you ready to see the fellas?
01:46No.
01:47Not even great.
01:48All right, let's get them out here.
01:49Hi.
01:50Hello.
01:51Thank you, Trish.
01:52Welcome.
01:53Single.
01:54Trish.
01:55Hello, Clay.
01:56During tonight's big reunion, we'll find out if the couples who
01:57lasted are still going strong.
01:58And all the bombshell secrets no one saw coming.
02:00I don't have one, could I have four?
02:01I just had a kid too, dude.
02:02What?
02:03Welcome, ladies.
02:04Now you ready to see the fellas?
02:05No.
02:06Not even great.
02:07All right, let's get them out here.
02:08Hi.
02:09Hi.
02:10Hi.
02:11Hi.
02:12Hi.
02:13Hi.
02:14Hi.
02:15Hi.
02:16Hi.
02:17Hi.
02:18Hi.
02:19Hi.
02:20Hi.
02:21And if the others are looking for closure.
02:27Hi, Alisha.
02:29Good child.
02:30I can feel the energy already.
02:32All right.
02:40Welcome to the Never Ever Met's reunion.
02:43I'm your host, Tyranda Jones, and I hope you guys are ready because it's about to go down.
02:48down. Now I've got to hand it to the couples for taking on this challenge
02:52because it was far from easy. And some of the couples navigated the waves better
02:56than others. Y'all ready for the heat? I'm ready.
03:00All right. Alicia and Irvin, your time
03:04ended a bit sooner than expected. Let's roll back and revisit
03:08your experience.
03:11Irvin and I, we have been chit-chatting for about five months.
03:15Oh, man. Let's take it to the next level.
03:19You have a way of flipping things and putting it on me. I feel
03:23unsafe with your demeanor at the moment.
03:27She's just a completely different person in person. I feel like
03:30being my authentic self was being criticized. I just don't want to do
03:35this anymore. Right before I came here, I got a phone call. It was
03:38my ex-girlfriend. I felt like God was talking to me. Okay.
03:43Thank you for peace.
03:45Spare me.
03:51Irvin, I'm gonna need you to be a little bit more graceful, brother.
03:55I'm sorry. I've just felt like everything I was doing, it was just
03:58being manipulated and I was being gaslit for everything. You know what I
04:01mean? You're supposed to bring happiness in my life and you
04:03weren't doing that. That's so unfortunate for you. It really is.
04:07That's the gaslighting part that he's been talking about.
04:10That's like, that's daddy. Here y'all aren't always in the business. Let him speak for himself.
04:14Mind your business.
04:17Oh, wow.
04:19Oh, oh, here's energy.
04:22Oh, here's where we go.
04:23I'm not gonna be bullied. So honestly, I think it's unfair to expect somebody else to make
04:30you happy every day. You do have to take accountability for your own showing up every day.
04:35He was not happy in the house. And yeah, it's not up to her, but he didn't make it better, period.
04:40And I don't think that everybody should have been giving Irvin what I should be and shouldn't be doing.
04:45He allowed other people to dictate what he was going to do and say and treat me.
04:52No. He's a grown man. I feel like he made his own decision.
04:54Trust me. Like, it was my, it was my own decision. I really wanted you to, you know,
04:59impress me. Like, I really took that into consideration.
05:02I'm better than all of this. I am so much better than that.
05:04It's fine. You be better at all.
05:05We heard. Jay, why?
05:07Why? I'm just the extranist. Like, damn, you extra too.
05:11I'm going to be the extremist person in the room, always. There is a certain way that a man
05:18will talk to me. And the fact that I'm gracing you with me being in this room and you're still
05:23having that energy is problematic to me. Wow.
05:26Am I wrong, y'all?
05:28No, you're not wrong. No, no, you're not wrong.
05:30All praise, Alicia. All right, Alicia, how did you feel unsafe with Irvin?
05:34So we're having a conversation and I feel an energy shift. It was just a lot of aggression.
05:41Oh, wow. Or maybe nervousness.
05:43Or maybe nervousness. I won't label it.
05:45I don't want to make you feel into any type of way. I was respecting your space
05:48and I got up and left. And then you're telling me to come back. Like, I just didn't get it.
05:53So it can be very confusing. One minute is, I don't feel safe. But then the next minute is,
05:57come back. Well, you know what? Better words would say,
05:59please don't yell at me. Don't raise your voice.
06:01So you have to say that. The moment you say, I feel unsafe, he said, I'm backing off.
06:06Because I don't want to make you feel unsafe. And I appreciated that.
06:08And then you said, come back. Which is very, it can be very misleading.
06:11Okay. So in that moment, I made a mistake.
06:16Maybe I shouldn't have said that. Maybe I shouldn't have called him back.
06:19I will take accountability for that. I should have allowed him to move out the room
06:23and do what he needed to do. Okay.
06:25I really appreciate you saying that. For real. For real. Thank you.
06:29Now you're a star.
06:30Irvin, you were the one who called it quits.
06:33Yeah. And you mentioned your ex-girlfriend.
06:35Right.
06:35Do you guys have a status now?
06:37Yes. We're still together, happy, you know.
06:41You're lying, yo.
06:43Alicia, have you jumped back into the dating scene?
06:45No. I want the best things. I want the best man. So, no.
06:57All right. Alicia and Irvin were the only ones who bowed out early in this process.
07:02That's right. Tatiana and Clay. I'm talking about you guys. Let's watch.
07:07She look good. Definitely 10 out of 10.
07:12Ooh. That's crazy.
07:15He's funny. He's very charismatic. We're getting along.
07:18When I made him a sandwich, it was chicken, turkey, ham.
07:21It made me feel like, oh, joke's on me.
07:23He told me that he wanted to pursue a vegan diet.
07:27I can eat what I want to eat.
07:28You can eat what you want to eat, but you were lying about it.
07:31Stop trying to make me look stupid.
07:32All right.
07:33What else are you lying about? Are you a liar?
07:37Clay!
07:40Apparently, when she came in, she jumped on him? Two hands?
07:43She jumped on him? Yeah.
07:45My ex-fiance ended up in my house pregnant.
07:48I have a newborn child that she does not know about.
07:51Something else I want to tell you is I have a daughter.
07:55I didn't know the person that I came here for.
07:58Damn.
08:00All right.
08:02Oh, man.
08:04Tatiana and Clay, tell me about your expectations coming into this process,
08:08and what do you think went wrong?
08:11My expectation was to have fun, be booed up, and possibly leave with somebody.
08:18I think the person that I brought, that's what went wrong.
08:22Clay?
08:22Honestly, I would say my expectations coming here were to grow, and I can definitely say I grew from
08:31her. She taught me a lot. I started off the first date saying it started off as a 10 out of 10.
08:37I think it ended that way. Like, I still don't got nothing bad to say about her. But I just think that
08:42uh, particular events got exaggerated when they didn't have to. And it could have been de-escalated
08:48through simple conversation. Can you clarify that? Right. Can we clarify? I'm talking about the hug.
08:53I don't think there was nothing to trip over. All right. Let's get into Clevasseier's best friend,
08:59Jamila, with some never-before-seen footage of the hug.
09:07I didn't see the hug, but I got so many different stories that I don't really know exactly what happened.
09:13She did the whole, like, ah!
09:16That was the hug? She picked her off the ground.
09:18The reenactments, though, were crazy.
09:24We can't keep hiding these secrets from her and making her walk around looking dumb.
09:29Come on, bro. Man, talk about it.
09:31Well, Clay, after seeing the whole incident play on screen, what did you think?
09:37I think that right now I want to take a poll and see if you thought it was inappropriate.
09:41I do feel like you kind of played in her face a whole lot.
09:45Anybody that makes your significant other feel insecure or uncomfortable, they gotta start getting
09:50x'd out. The hug was blown out of proportion.
09:52See, a woman with Tati, like Tati, you got to handle her with care.
09:56You got to be gentle with her. You know, she more of a soft-spoken type of woman.
09:59Yeah, you just got to keep that in mind.
10:00So I feel like you've been, like, looking at her this whole time.
10:03I don't know, man.
10:04No, not at all. I'm just saying.
10:05Okay, well, who here believes that the hug might have escalated the situation even further?
10:13She cared more about that than the kid situation, so of course.
10:16But you got to understand, the buildup, that's what made it bad.
10:19Every time, she was always the last one to know about stuff.
10:21And at one point, she was like, damn, I'm just like the joke.
10:24He just was dragging it. It was a lot of secrets in his house.
10:26That's the thing. It's not like, and if this was the first thing, if this was the first thing that
10:30ever happened between me and Clay, I honestly don't think it would have went the same way.
10:34It felt like everything else for him. It's just like, he wanted to tell everybody else, like,
10:38oh, I'm not vegan. I'm eating turkey bacon. And when I'm around, oh.
10:43He always talks about how he wants peace, but he's literally the drama. Like, it's you.
10:48So you stand by your reaction?
10:50I stand by it, because that was my truth in that moment. I feel like it was a buildup,
10:54and that was the blowup.
10:56Are you currently seeing anybody?
10:58I have a roster.
10:59Oh, a roster?
11:00Yes.
11:00A roster?
11:02Yeah.
11:02That's how you do it.
11:04What about you, Clay? Are you seeing anybody? Do you have a roster?
11:08I don't have a roster. Seeing someone, yes.
11:13Is it your girlfriend, Clay? I'm sorry?
11:18Is it your girlfriend?
11:20Yes.
11:21Oh, okay, because that's not what he told me yesterday, so.
11:24Oh, wow.
11:25Yesterday?
11:25Oh.
11:26Yes.
11:27What did he tell you, Tatiana?
11:29Is that sweat on your brow?
11:38I came around the corner, and I saw a lot that I did not need to be seeing.
11:41What were they doing?
11:42What was it?
11:44Let's check out some never-before-seen footage.
11:46No matter if you go home with your girl or not after this show, your whole count is going to be through the roof.
11:53Goddamn, like, I didn't see .
12:01What did he tell you, Tatiana?
12:03Is that sweat on your brow?
12:08That sweat on my brow is hot when I'm big.
12:09Tatiana, what would you hear?
12:16I asked him if he had a girlfriend, yes or no, and he let me know that, basically,
12:21he didn't know what was going on, and he didn't know how to answer that.
12:24And I was like, with the yes or no, and I don't know.
12:27I just thought maybe she should know so she don't get played like I gave her.
12:30He just committed today.
12:31He just committed this hour.
12:32He could have committed this morning.
12:34Right.
12:35Come on, let's act like that don't happen.
12:37He's like this morning.
12:39All right, let's shift gears and talk about another couple who went home early.
12:44Brittany and Ty.
12:46How you doing?
12:48Good.
12:49How are you?
12:50Let me get this.
12:53Your winner is Ty and Brittany.
12:58Take us to the Boom Boom Room.
13:01Which we will not be going.
13:02I don't feel any romance.
13:04I'm supposed to put everything down, serve you.
13:06I just need Ty to step it up.
13:08How does it feel so far?
13:09I'm really good.
13:12No tone.
13:12No tone.
13:13I can't get no tone.
13:14Do you think y'all would be good sexual partners?
13:16I'm going to go with yes.
13:17No.
13:19I've been trying to have that chemistry with her, and it feels like I'm doing something wrong,
13:24and I don't know what that is.
13:25You're going to be a asshole to me.
13:27Why are you going to say that again?
13:28We're both at our wit's end.
13:30Oh, damn, bro.
13:32I'm glad that it's over.
13:35Oh, goodness.
13:40Brittany, what was your expectations coming into this experience?
13:43Meet Ty, get to know him, have fun.
13:46But Ty and I had had conversations on the phone about my boundaries and what I'd be expecting,
13:52and he kept crossing them.
13:54Ty?
13:54My expectations was I thought you were going to cater to me the way I catered to you,
14:01and I wasn't receiving that.
14:02It wasn't reciprocal.
14:04I was ironing your clothes for you.
14:05Was that not catering to your love language?
14:07I'm a grown-ass man.
14:08I could iron my own clothes.
14:09But I'm doing it for you.
14:10I'm saying.
14:10Okay, yeah.
14:11Is that not catering to your love language?
14:12One time.
14:13That was one time.
14:13Okay, so when I was giving you massages while here and there.
14:16Whoa, whoa.
14:16Hold on.
14:17You did this.
14:18You did that.
14:19You did that.
14:19I'll try to give you hugs, kisses, all that.
14:22But you know I didn't want you kissing on me.
14:24I told you that before we got there, and you continuously kept kissing on me.
14:27I'm thinking, okay, listen, we've been talking for a minute,
14:30and now this is a time where we see each other in person.
14:33This is where we grow the connection.
14:34We do a lot of activities about boundaries, right?
14:37And I got to listen.
14:39If you're really in this experience, get alert.
14:41Yes.
14:42If she's expressing to you that makes me uncomfortable, that means don't do it.
14:46Like even our first kiss, it wasn't, I didn't even know he was going to kiss me.
14:50It was just super random.
14:51He just took it.
14:52One time he slapped me on the ass so hard, my teeth clicked together.
14:55Like, I'm just like, like, I would just peck him to kind of get him to move on.
15:02Okay, so I didn't lift you up, and you didn't like it?
15:04And then you didn't tell me you didn't like how I grabbed your ass?
15:06You didn't tell me that?
15:07No, I said you give good hugs.
15:08I didn't tell you to grab my ass.
15:08When I firmly grasped it, and I firmly grasped it.
15:11See, and he's admitting that he's touching my ass.
15:14You didn't say, oh, I like that, that feel good.
15:16No, I said you give good hugs.
15:17I did not tell you to grab my ass.
15:19So the point she's making is you clearly make her uncomfortable.
15:22It's something that's easy of just packing off.
15:24And that's what I did.
15:25I was respecting the energy that I felt and saw.
15:29And I started slowly back away, like I'm doing now.
15:32I was just getting frustrated.
15:34Like, why do I have to keep having this conversation?
15:36Like, keep your hands to yourself.
15:38Wait till I'm ready.
15:39I already told him before we got here.
15:40When I first see somebody, especially somebody that I'm feeling,
15:44why wouldn't I want to give him a hug and a kiss?
15:45But in real life, I know you said online,
15:47those were the boundaries she set.
15:48Did she set those boundaries in real life?
15:50I don't want that. I don't like that.
15:52Not in person.
15:53I don't want to say that I was just like, you know,
15:55I didn't like it when you kissed me the other day.
15:56I didn't tell him that.
15:57I think I was like more focused on just trying to keep the peace.
16:01And I probably should not have.
16:02I probably should have pulled him to the side and was just like,
16:04Yeah, because then you're going against your boundaries.
16:07Exactly.
16:07When you're trying to keep the peace with somebody else.
16:09If you're uncomfortable,
16:10then it should be best that you advocate for yourself.
16:13And that's something I'm working on.
16:14I do that a lot, even like within all my relationships.
16:16Not even just with Ty and I.
16:18I just keep quiet on things that I'm uncomfortable with,
16:21just to keep the peace with the other person.
16:24All right, Ty.
16:26Are you dating anybody these days?
16:27Uh, exclusively? No.
16:29There's people I'm interested in.
16:31Okay.
16:31Right?
16:31Okay.
16:32I'll say that.
16:33Brittany, how's the dating life?
16:35It's all right.
16:36A lot of like my exes are trying to spin the block on me right now, but
16:41it's all right.
16:42Jay, obviously you and Brittany, you guys didn't get along in the house.
16:46What was the real issue between you two?
16:48I don't know.
16:49Day one, when I walked in the house, she'd walk around, go right past me, go to Cinco, so.
16:55I was like, uh, okay.
16:57That's the truth.
16:57Do you think Brittany was more into Cinco than Ty from the start?
17:02Oh, yes.
17:03Maybe it was the alcohol.
17:04She didn't drink a lot.
17:05And she kept really touchy every time.
17:08Tell me I'm lying.
17:09Oh my gosh, she's so worried about Cinco.
17:12Poor little Tink Tink.
17:13I was giving her so much pressure.
17:15Who agree with that?
17:15Let them do their thing, shorty.
17:17The reason why Jay and I did not click is because she's rude.
17:22And all the ladies can attest to that.
17:24When she came in, she didn't speak to anybody.
17:26That's a lie.
17:26Like when you walk into a room, you're supposed to speak like, hello, how y'all doing?
17:29You know, whatever.
17:30I said hi.
17:30She didn't do that.
17:31You didn't.
17:32Remember, I approached you.
17:32No, I walked in and I said hi.
17:33No, you didn't.
17:33You didn't go.
17:34You didn't go.
17:35Cinco, he apologized for you.
17:36Exactly.
17:37Because he said you didn't say hi to us.
17:38Yes.
17:38I don't know about that or that.
17:39But he told me that I should talk to you and be cool with you because you're really a cool girl and yada yada.
17:44That's the only reason why I spoke to you.
17:44You don't got to sell me though.
17:46It's obvious that if you don't have friends.
17:47I got lots of friends.
17:48But it's just like.
17:49Just when maybe the older ladies, they don't like the younger ones.
17:51I did that.
17:52Girl, you talk about old.
17:53All them lines in your face.
17:55Like stop.
17:55You'd be lucky if you get to my age.
18:02It's obvious that if you don't have friends.
18:04I got lots of friends.
18:05But it's just like.
18:05Just when maybe the older ladies, they don't like the younger ones.
18:08Girls like style.
18:09You'd be lucky if you get to my age.
18:11All right.
18:12Let's move on.
18:14I want to switch gears for a second.
18:16It wasn't all heartache and drama.
18:18There was some good times and laughs too.
18:19Now remember all those fun dinner time games?
18:22Let's take a peek at some more never before seen footage.
18:27Do you guys want to play a game?
18:28Uh-huh, all right.
18:29How often do you watch porn and what is your favorite kind?
18:33Probably twice a week.
18:35I would say honestly, I wouldn't really say I have a favorite kind.
18:40Good, because I watch gay porn.
18:41Oh, lesbian or gay porn.
18:44I ain't watching no chicks.
18:45Y'all be watching the men crack the men?
18:47Wow.
18:47Oh.
18:47I do the same.
18:49Wait a minute.
18:51I have nothing to say.
18:52I love seeing a man, uh, yeah, squeal.
18:56Ain't nothing like that.
18:59All right.
19:01Let's move it right along.
19:02Keeping up with the theme of games, it's time to kick off our own
19:05Never Ever Mets reunion game.
19:08Grab the whiteboards in front of you.
19:09I'll throw some questions your way.
19:11And I want to see all of your honest answers written down, okay?
19:15First question.
19:16Who was the peacemaker that managed to keep things calm in the house?
19:21All right, we ready?
19:25Let's see your answers.
19:26Flip them over.
19:28Cinco, Cinco, Cinco.
19:30Chris, Cinco, Jared, okay.
19:32For me.
19:33Head up.
19:35Cinco, ding, ding, ding.
19:36Cinco with the most votes.
19:39Next question.
19:40If you had a do-over and could switch partners with anyone else on this stage,
19:44who would it be and why?
19:47Alicia, so I can gaslight back.
19:49Oh, wow.
19:51Chris, you put Tati.
19:52And Tati, you said Chris.
19:54Wow.
19:56Kiki.
19:56Chris.
19:57You too?
19:58I knew it.
19:59You probably had him the whole show.
20:01I knew it.
20:01Dallas, which is Charlie.
20:03Oh, wow.
20:05Alexis, who did you write?
20:06Brandon.
20:07I saw that a mile away.
20:08Okay.
20:09Go home together.
20:10You'll be back.
20:11Let's get a little bit spicy.
20:13Who was hitting on somebody else's partner after they left the house?
20:16After they left the house.
20:17Damn.
20:18Yeah.
20:18Damn, who was doing that?
20:24Brandon has a crush on Charlie.
20:27Oh.
20:29Okay.
20:30Charlie, you, you're saying, you're admitting that you?
20:32Yeah.
20:33Oh, you want to elaborate?
20:35My waffle butter.
20:37The plot thickens.
20:38They made waffles like every morning together.
20:40Yeah.
20:40Jerry, how do you feel about hearing the whole waffle buddy thing?
20:43I mean, that's life.
20:44What can you do about it?
20:46He don't give a .
20:46I said you were Chris.
20:50What's that for?
20:51What does that mean?
20:52So I feel like the way he look at her, like even right now, you're looking at the back of my head.
20:58I mean, I think they're already talking.
21:01So what makes you feel like we're already talking?
21:02I just feel it.
21:03I don't know.
21:04Sometimes you just get a feeling.
21:05There's no way.
21:06Sometimes you just get a feeling.
21:07But you feeling that way before the cars got raised?
21:09Yeah.
21:10Why?
21:11It's just the energy.
21:12I don't know.
21:13I just thought that.
21:14In the house and then like today as well, but I feel like it was a lot.
21:18I feel like we didn't talk that much in the house.
21:19Everybody's feeling that type of way.
21:20I don't know.
21:21Maybe y'all speaking it into existence.
21:24You want to come sit on her lap?
21:26Like, what do you want?
21:27Like, it's in existence.
21:28Hold on, time out.
21:29Set her a pic.
21:30She'll be all right.
21:31Okay.
21:32You shouldn't have been asking pics anyway.
21:34Now we talking about pic.
21:35All right, all right.
21:36You guys, it's just a game.
21:38You always talk to trouble with these damn games.
21:40It's just a game.
21:40All right, all right.
21:43Let's move on.
21:44After all of the early departures, we were down to the Elite Eight.
21:51To the Elite Eight.
21:52To the Elite Eight.
21:52Elite Eight.
21:55Kiki and Brandon, Jay and Cinco, Alexis and Chris, and Charlie and Jared.
22:02Now we're going to kick things off with Jay and Cinco because Cinco has to leave the reunion early.
22:07We'll find out why in a moment.
22:09Now, you two generally had smooth sailing.
22:12But hey, it's not love if you don't have rough waters, right?
22:14Let's take a look.
22:16Here you go.
22:17You know you love your roses.
22:18Hey, nice.
22:20Very attractive.
22:21He gets a plus for telling the truth about his height.
22:25Me and Cinco have been talking for five long months.
22:27Why not get it over with now?
22:29Because what if you're not compatible?
22:30Thanks.
22:31He knows all my life, dislikes.
22:32Good job.
22:33We're clearly the best couple here.
22:35Look at them.
22:36One day this year.
22:37I'm trying to hide stuff from you.
22:39I'm out.
22:41Me up and moving, it's hard.
22:43I just think Atlanta's better.
22:44You don't have a child.
22:45We have some questions about where we're going to relocate.
22:48We leaving together.
22:49Yeah.
22:49Us staying together and leaving the house together was a no-brainer.
22:53All right.
22:54Jay Cinco, I'm going to start with you, Jay.
22:56What were your expectations coming into this experience?
22:58Um, to see if our five-month conversation can spill over to real life, to be honest.
23:05Because we got along good.
23:07Our first conversation was saying stuff like, this is my last rodeo.
23:10Like, he said, I'm done after this.
23:11So if this is not intentional for you, just let me know now.
23:13So I was like, well, let me, okay.
23:15Cinco?
23:16Going through the process was pretty much what I expected.
23:20You know, because talking on the phone and stuff was pretty easy.
23:22So it's like, I didn't expect to get a different person when we got in front of each other.
23:27Okay.
23:27So we want strangers like other people, like, and who didn't like each other and stuff.
23:31We throwing stones.
23:32Sorry.
23:32Yep.
23:33We ain't doing that.
23:36Are you still seeing each other?
23:37Yes, we are.
23:38Yeah, for sure.
23:39You see what happens when you get stuff done over with first day?
23:43That's what happens.
23:43Okay.
23:44Get it over with.
23:45Now Cinco, during one of the dinner games, Jay dropped a bomb
23:49about her past that seemed to shake you up a bit.
23:50Did you ever get to the bottom of that little timeline issue?
23:54I mean, it ain't mess of nothing that we got going on.
23:57You see how they keep their relationship private?
24:01That's shade.
24:01It wasn't.
24:02That's so much shade.
24:03No, it wasn't really private though.
24:04It was no shade.
24:05No, no, it wasn't private.
24:06The we got into was show, you know?
24:09Y'all didn't see a lot.
24:10Let's just say that.
24:10Okay.
24:11Jay and Cinco, y'all left the house hand in hand.
24:14When things shifted in real life, was that a smooth transition?
24:17Or did things get a little rocky?
24:21He came to Chicago like a week after we got done filming.
24:24It was cool.
24:25He met my family, met my son.
24:27They all liked him.
24:28He would come like every month.
24:30Okay.
24:31Yeah.
24:31I got roses every three days out the week to the front door.
24:34Like it's been, it's like that.
24:36Okay, Cinco.
24:38But like little stuff, we just trying to work through like the kinks.
24:41Like he's a good communicator.
24:43He likes to talk.
24:44He likes to get to the bottom of things.
24:45He's very level-headed.
24:46All right.
24:47Well, Cinco, to my understanding, you have to leave to catch a flight.
24:53Yeah.
24:53I'm playing basketball in Atlanta.
24:55It's an overseas combine.
24:57That's, and basically they just giving out contracts on the spot.
25:00So if I get picked up, I'm going.
25:03Yeah, they deserve a clap.
25:08Jay, what does it mean if Cinco made the team?
25:12We talk about that a lot.
25:14He, he said stuff like, you're going to come visit if I move, if I go to Asia, you know,
25:19anywhere.
25:19I'm like, no, because I don't like long plane rides.
25:22Her initial thing going to always be no.
25:24Yeah.
25:24It sounds like you're obviously cautious about shaking up your son's life.
25:28Yeah.
25:29So how does, how has Cinco been fitting into the picture?
25:32My son loves him.
25:34Like a lot.
25:34Cinco.
25:35A lot.
25:36That's what I'm talking about.
25:37He's one of the good ones, for real.
25:38Okay.
25:38You're so patient.
25:39Oh yeah.
25:40I try to be.
25:41Yeah.
25:42All right.
25:42Last question before you go.
25:44Cinco, are you going to marry Jay or what?
25:51I mean, eventually, if it keep going this way.
25:56Very demure.
25:57All right.
25:58We're going to take a quick break and let Cinco head out.
26:00I know you got some places to get to.
26:02Good luck on all your current and future endeavors.
26:04Thank you for joining us.
26:06Appreciate it, everybody.
26:07What's up?
26:08Play, I'm playing.
26:08He's a good man, Savannah.
26:11What did you mean by that?
26:12I'm your soulmate.
26:13You are a soul that I would love to keep in my life.
26:19What was your reason when we played the game earlier for saying,
26:22if you could come back with another person, it would be Tati?
26:25Oh.
26:26Oh, is that still on your mind, Clay?
26:31Welcome back, everyone.
26:32All right.
26:34Moving right along.
26:36Alexis and Chris, you're a couple that left the house together.
26:40There was a lot to unpack with you two from the start.
26:42Let's watch.
26:44Hi, honey.
26:45How you doing?
26:45How are you?
26:46Hi, you look amazing.
26:47Oh, thank you.
26:48You can explore all parts of the body as long as you ask for permission.
26:55She has this attitude like, I'm going to do things the way I want to do things.
26:59I was showing ownership.
27:01We're good, right?
27:02Forward, forward.
27:03As far as us.
27:04We haven't been intimate, and I'm getting fed up over it.
27:08She was pushing the sex agenda hard.
27:10She's so aggressive, and that's what I want her to come back.
27:13Man, you brought me the box.
27:14Mm-hmm.
27:15Me and this woman is really making steps in the right direction.
27:24All right.
27:25I'm going to start with you, Chris.
27:27Alexis was very clear that she wanted to get physical with you.
27:30Yes.
27:30What held you from going down that path?
27:32Sexual has never been a thing for me.
27:34You know, the older I get, I don't want to be viewed like a piece of meat.
27:37Like, oh, okay.
27:38I like Chris.
27:39I'm attracted to Chris.
27:40Let me go down here.
27:41We do the hanky-panky or whatever you want to call it.
27:44You get what I'm saying?
27:44And that's that.
27:45Because after she get what she want, what's she going to do?
27:47She's going back to the girls.
27:48I got them.
27:49Did she ever get what she wanted?
27:50So, why you sent her?
27:53So, listen, listen, listen.
27:55Why you sent her an eggplant picture?
27:56I'm like, Ty over here.
27:58Why did you send her an eggplant picture?
27:59She asked for it.
28:00You said, why did she send me an eggplant picture?
28:01Why did you send it?
28:03You got the eggplant, Chris.
28:05Why'd you send it to her?
28:06She asked for it.
28:08She asked for it.
28:08Why?
28:09Why?
28:10No, time out.
28:10Time out, fellas.
28:12Well, I sent it to, you know, prove a point.
28:14Let her know we not lacking over here.
28:15I'm not sending my friends no eggplant pics.
28:18That's all you got was a pic?
28:19You two obviously had plans to go into the intimacy suite.
28:22Did you ever become intimate?
28:24What?
28:26No.
28:26We, what?
28:27Are we lying?
28:28We lying.
28:29Are we lying?
28:30We lying.
28:30Whoa.
28:31Who's lying?
28:32Are we telling pips?
28:34It wasn't that kind of sex.
28:35Oh.
28:36What was it?
28:37What kind was it?
28:37Oh, them, all them guys.
28:38I can't look in on it.
28:40I'll say it.
28:41I was laying down in my bed.
28:44And they opened up that bathroom door.
28:47And Alexa's glasses were looking like something out of Tron.
28:49They was fogged up.
28:51Wait, that was part, hold on.
28:52That was part one.
28:53Okay.
28:54All right, I saw what y'all lying.
28:56I saw what y'all lying.
28:56That was part one.
28:58Part two, Kiki caught it.
28:59I did.
29:00Kiki, what happened?
29:02I came around the corner.
29:04And Chris, I saw Chris and I saw Alexis.
29:07And I saw a lot that I did not need to do.
29:09What were they doing?
29:10What'd you see?
29:11Were they nude?
29:12They were nude.
29:13Honestly, we know there was some shower things going on.
29:17We know you left the house together.
29:19So how did it go when you guys returned home?
29:21When I left the house, I had to take some time to decompress.
29:31I was just perplexed about a lot of stuff, you know?
29:34Like that controlling thing, even though I know I'm not controlling, you know, I had to self-evaluate.
29:41Are you still together?
29:42No, we're not together.
29:44You want to elaborate what happened?
29:47It was just the emotional rollercoaster, his traumas.
29:53It was a lot.
29:53Where's my traumas?
29:54What?
29:55You kept saying I was triggering you.
29:57Control triggers you, and aggressive triggers you, and everything I did was a trigger.
30:01I don't want to be with somebody like that, you know?
30:04So when I did the re-evaluation of myself, I was like, what is Chris' problem?
30:10I didn't know what the hell it was, so I just left it where it was at.
30:14So did you end it, or Alexis' end it?
30:17I think it was mutual on both ends, you know?
30:19And I feel like we both ended it, but at the same time, you could kind of tell that it was a phase,
30:23because it faded out.
30:25And I feel like anything that's meant, it would be worth fighting for.
30:28So when you got two people not really fighting, that means, you know, it's pretty much a dead situation.
30:33I'm going to stop now and let Tati take that over.
30:37Now, baby, check it out, I bought you.
30:39Yeah, she got right, Chris.
30:40You keep saying that sex wasn't your main reason for coming here.
30:43What was your reason when we played the game earlier for saying,
30:46if you could come back with another person, it would be Tati?
30:50Oh!
30:51You okay?
30:52Or is that still on your mind, Clay?
30:57You okay?
30:58Right.
30:58You good, Clay?
30:59Or is that still on your mind, Clay?
31:01Talk about it. Come on, talk about it.
31:03I just want to know the reason behind it.
31:05I feel like we have some things in common and she's beautiful.
31:10I like her energy, if you know what I mean.
31:12Didn't I say I was an energy person?
31:14You did say that.
31:15Didn't I say that?
31:16You did say that.
31:16Is that fair enough?
31:18It shouldn't even matter, Clay, because you said you got a girlfriend,
31:20so you shouldn't even matter.
31:22Sorry for clocking it.
31:22We can move on, bro.
31:23Yes, sir.
31:24Smarter, great idea. Let's move on.
31:26Clay, you okay?
31:28Buki Bear?
31:28I'm going to be okay.
31:29Okay.
31:31Chris, you vegan?
31:32Oh, my God.
31:34My plate was green today.
31:36I didn't have a spirit because it's inside it.
31:40Right, you tried.
31:42And they said if at first you don't succeed, get yourself up and try again.
31:45Alexis, are you seeing anybody else right now?
31:49Dating?
31:50I'm dating.
31:50I like that.
31:52Chris, what about you?
31:52Uh, no, I'm not dating.
31:54I, uh, keeping my mind open, study, working on myself.
31:57And hopefully that'll attract the woman that I need.
31:58Huh, I'm gonna say.
32:01All right, Kiki and Brandon.
32:04Let's rewind and watch your experience together in the house.
32:06Can you believe it's been four years?
32:09What if you decide you don't like me?
32:10What if you decide you don't like me?
32:12I'm gonna pour me a little bit more.
32:14Are you a drinker?
32:15I'm working on it.
32:16I don't know if me and Kiki's relationship can continue if the drinking doesn't stop.
32:22Are you drinking again?
32:24This is wine.
32:26Reasons why I wasn't able to see you, I was still involved with my ex.
32:30I just feel like it'd be best for us to separate.
32:36Brandon, do you think you were overreacting to Kiki's drinking?
32:40Maybe a little bit.
32:42Maybe I just should've sat back, waited to see the drinking problem occur.
32:46But I was already in once I asked the question.
32:49It was just constantly just him harping on the same thing over and over and over.
32:54You weren't having a drinker in the house, what you mean?
32:56I don't think she was.
32:56Because your waffle buddy was drinking more than her.
32:59I wasn't with waffle buddy at the time.
33:01It don't matter.
33:01At the time.
33:02At the time.
33:03At the time.
33:04Wait, hold on, are y'all together?
33:06I swear, damn.
33:08He said at the time.
33:12Oh, she kickin'.
33:15Everybody's settled down.
33:17You never talked about alcohol with her for four years?
33:20Remember, we only talked here and there because we both be busy.
33:22Four years is a long time.
33:23Four years is a long time.
33:24Somebody can hide something, bro.
33:27Kiki, the secret about your ex drove a major wedge between you and Brandon.
33:31Do you think if you would've been up front earlier,
33:34it would've changed the course of events?
33:36To be honest, I wasn't ready to...
33:40to finish things with my ex, but I knew that it was time.
33:43If you dropped that secret on me early,
33:45we definitely would've been gone because I said that was a deal breaker.
33:49You know I view you as a best friend.
33:51That's the biggest thing in a relationship.
33:53You gotta be my best friend.
33:54Can I ask a question?
33:55Sure, go ahead, please.
33:56Maybe you could clarify.
33:57When somebody say best friend,
33:58that mean that you're a better friend than all the other friends that I have, right?
34:03So how does the best friend keep secrets and lie?
34:07Am I missing something?
34:08That's a great question.
34:10No.
34:10It depends on your definition of a best friend.
34:13I don't accept best friends who lie to me.
34:14I agree.
34:15You all determine what a best friend is.
34:17You determine what a relationship looks like to you.
34:19I can't tell you that, only you know.
34:20That's why you guys are here doing this experience,
34:23because life gonna teach you.
34:25I'm just here to give you the tools.
34:27All right, speaking of best friend, Charlie and Jared.
34:33I was sure that y'all was going to leave together,
34:36but it turns out things didn't quite go as planned.
34:39Let's take a look.
34:43That man is absolutely beautiful in person.
34:46Oh, Jesus.
34:48Charlie is everything I would look for in a woman.
34:51I don't have one kid I afford.
34:53I just had a kid too, dude.
34:55We went from two kids to six overnight, so.
34:57I got a game for us.
34:58We're gonna act like all this is gonna end tomorrow.
35:01My answer for the game was a hell yes.
35:03What did you put?
35:04I put no.
35:06It's so private in here.
35:07I love it.
35:09This is what we needed to kind of bring us closer together.
35:12I came here to start my life with him.
35:14I was a run that put F no.
35:17What do you really want from this?
35:19Let's just keep it as best friends.
35:20That's tough.
35:23Yeah.
35:25Wow.
35:25Charlie, I'm gonna start with you.
35:28What were your expectations coming into this process?
35:30I don't know.
35:31To see the chemistry that we had over the phone and online,
35:33if it was real.
35:34And what do you think went wrong?
35:35I had no idea how he really felt.
35:38I think he was still like protecting me and my feelings.
35:40And he wasn't honest in the, in the beginning, so.
35:43Or throughout at all, actually.
35:45Going into this, I owed it to her, like to try and see if it would work.
35:50But we both had a secret.
35:52And it was a secret I thought I could get over.
35:54But in my mind, I know it wasn't gonna work.
35:58But good sex checks a lot of boxes that normally wouldn't be checked.
36:11Jared.
36:11We both had a secret.
36:13In my mind, I know it wasn't gonna work.
36:15But good sex checks a lot of boxes that normally wouldn't be checked.
36:20If it ain't all there, then I thought that could help out the situation.
36:23Charlie, how you feel about that?
36:25Because I see you throwing looks.
36:26I'm just confused.
36:27He said he tried.
36:28But on what, day two, he was already saying no.
36:32So like, where did the trying come in play?
36:35That's what I'm trying to figure out.
36:37I was hit with a pretty big bomb day one.
36:39I mean, you threw a bomb at me too, like.
36:41Yeah, your bomb was a little bit more bigger.
36:44It was, but it's not like I had a secret and you didn't have one.
36:47Like, we both kept something from each other.
36:49You're right.
36:49You may not have seen it, but me even giving it a second thought was me trying.
36:53So was it the amount of kids I had or just me not telling you?
36:57I think it was a little bit of both.
37:00Now, now you're making it feel like they're a burden and they're not.
37:03I've never asked a man for .
37:05I know the internet's going crazy.
37:06I'm here and I don't get no damn child support.
37:08I make a hell of money.
37:09I have a nice house.
37:10I don't need anything.
37:12I'm not asking no man to raise my children.
37:13They have their own dad.
37:15I want a man to love me.
37:17Would you have came to South Carolina, kids and all?
37:20I can't take my kids.
37:21Exactly.
37:22But, okay, so kids aside, it wouldn't have never worked because of the location then?
37:27No.
37:27I would have tried to convince you and the one kid I knew about to come to South Carolina.
37:31Even with the one kid, I can't leave Dallas.
37:33Well, I guess it was just all up in smoke from the beginning.
37:36All right, Charlie, it seemed like red flags were flying out all around Jared.
37:40Everybody saw it but you.
37:42So let's check out some never-before-seen footage.
37:45Jared uses Charlie for every damn thing.
37:49Why don't you see red flags?
37:51Like something is not on in her brain.
37:54The light switch is off.
37:55It needs to be turned on.
37:56Inconfidentiality.
37:58I love Charlie.
37:58Yeah.
38:00But my mind's made up.
38:01I'm still going to enjoy myself.
38:04I'm going to tell you what it is.
38:05I put no.
38:06You put no.
38:08This is the reason why I said that.
38:09No matter if you go home with your girl or not after this show,
38:12your whole account is going to be through the roof.
38:14So you're going to find something.
38:15That's packed.
38:16I ain't going to.
38:17I bet you there's a bitch in these hills watching that show.
38:19You're like, damn.
38:20That's the I can hit up on IG.
38:22I got to do it.
38:27God damn.
38:27Like, I didn't see .
38:29All y'all, obviously, he already made up his mind.
38:32Like, we had sex.
38:33We were kissing.
38:34You were doing the intimate stuff but saying that at the same time,
38:36I was confused.
38:37Was I not supposed to do it?
38:38You're supposed to be treated like an absolute queen
38:40and I felt like I did that.
38:41Well, Charlie, it was very clear you were hurt every time Jared
38:44would put you in the best friend zone.
38:46But then he switches up and calling you his soulmate.
38:48Do you think Jared was playing games by giving you mixed signals?
38:51You can't be both?
38:52Jared, good night.
38:55If you would never have sex with her, then yes.
38:57You can't be both?
38:58But once you have sex with somebody, the dynamic changes.
39:00What did you mean by that?
39:00I'm your soulmate.
39:01I don't think I've ever asked you that.
39:02I meant that as you are a soul that I would love to keep in my life.
39:08That's not going to do what I just said.
39:09Exactly.
39:09Like, y'all my team.
39:11Y'all my team.
39:12That's perfect.
39:13I got to write that down.
39:14That was good.
39:15Why do you want to answer?
39:16You want to answer because you want to hold on to a little piece of hope?
39:20I'm that person.
39:21I want to understand.
39:22I need to understand .
39:23He's giving you clear indication that.
39:25Well, I know what it is.
39:25I just was trying to understand this thing.
39:27So going forward, it should be, it was nice knowing you, Charlie.
39:31Oh.
39:32I don't want to lead anything else on.
39:34And we can't be best friends and that should be it.
39:36And then you should have said that.
39:38That's a hard truth.
39:38I'm saying it now.
39:39That's a hard truth.
39:40Charlie, this is obviously the answer.
39:42It's one particular thing he said out of his mouth that was honest.
39:45This is what you were looking for, right?
39:47Yeah.
39:47All right, Jared.
39:48I do want to know, are you dating anyone right now?
39:50Nope.
39:51Chilling.
39:52Charlie, are you dating?
39:53Hell no.
39:54Are you still in love with Jared?
39:55Yeah.
39:59Um, I love Jared.
40:02But I'm going to get this tattoo removed though, like ASAP.
40:06I know I'm not feeling it, but I appreciate it because he done showed you some .
40:11So don't fall for that carrying my bag .
40:14Don't fall for the breakfast all the time, this and the other.
40:17You're going to have to look deeper than that.
40:18He just don't have the capacity to love you the way that you want.
40:21He does not.
40:22You deserve a love that feels safe and abundant.
40:25You give that love to your kids and you give that love to yourself.
40:29Therefore, you won't have to seek it in anybody else.
40:32Thank you for finally being honest with me.
40:33Of course.
40:35I'm here if you need anything.
40:37Wait, what?
40:38That's what I'm saying.
40:39I don't want to be your friend.
40:40I'm here if you need anything.
40:41In an emergency situation, if you need something, holler at me.
40:44See, now y'all know what I'm talking about.
40:46All right, don't hit me up.
40:47Never mind.
40:48All right.
40:48I want to thank all of our incredible couples for being so open and honest.
40:52And of course, thank you all for watching at home.
40:55And if this show proves that love might be a DM away, you just got to hit send.
41:00Until next time, keep meeting.
41:02Keep loving.
41:03And I'll see you guys on the flip side.
41:05Y'all have a good night on purpose.
41:06Peace.
41:11Change it.
41:12I told you it was going to change it.
41:18Taji, you look amazing.
41:20Good luck.
41:22If I should get mad, let me get back.
41:24Okay.
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