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00:54We know Bin Laden as the terrorist, the world's most evil man.
01:07For those once closest to him, his story is more complex.
01:11I worshipped everything about Bin Laden, how he had turned away from so much money to stand
01:18by his religious responsibility towards our people, towards my people.
01:24I was appalled by what happened. It filled my heart with horror.
01:29We are going into the path of endless, perpetual bloodshed.
01:36I prayed secretly that he would die.
01:39I mourned the person I knew and loved, but I didn't mourn the monster he turned out to be.
01:54I worked at the CIA on the operations side in the counterterrorism center before, during, and after September 11th.
02:13Afghanistan, even though, yes, the Taliban were ruling it, it was sort of the wild, wild west,
02:24it was essentially, you know, a failed state, which made it sort of a breeding ground for al-Qaeda.
02:29It became clear to me that something was happening.
02:42Afghanistan is becoming more and more the training ground for many jihadists from all across the world,
02:50especially the Middle East, Europe, and North America.
02:58One of them was Abdul Aziz Al-Umari, one of the leaders of the hijackers in 9-11, and many others.
03:05This is where they were chosen for their talents, and they were diverted to other camps that are more or less secretive.
03:14It's an order for them to be trained for what was coming, which was, of course, basically the 9-11 attacks.
03:22Men must send their children to the fields of battle, so that they can acquire military training to defend and support the religion of Muhammad.
03:43With Bin Laden's influence, with his money, they end up creating this platform, which is the base of jihad around the world.
03:50And it did become that. International jihad sprung from there.
04:01Al-Qaeda start planning their next step, which is become a think tank or a brainstorming organization for how to bring the West to its knees.
04:14And then they start doing that from that point onwards.
04:17A drone was flying over one of the camps in Afghanistan, and they noticed a very tall individual, you know, dressed all in white, surrounded by a security formation.
04:32That's really the closest I have ever come to seeing Osama Bin Laden.
04:37Wearing white, I think, you know, really is a symbol of sort of a spiritual leader.
04:45I believe that Bin Laden felt that he was a prophet.
04:50Here in the physical form, I 100% believe that Bin Laden thought he was a prophet.
04:55As Bin Laden's operations ramped up, so did his level of threat against the United States.
05:05Mr. Bin Laden, can you tell us, is the jihad directed against the U.S. government or the people of the United States?
05:13It was obvious that he is now ready to go public and speak directly to the American people and threaten them.
05:43He knew something is coming, and he wanted to be sure that he's taking responsibility for that thing that's coming.
05:59And that will help him, because if he's now the enemy of the United States, he's on the same level of the United States in his mind,
06:06and that will help him to recruit more people in the Muslim world.
06:09The United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places.
06:21The Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, and terrorizing its neighbors.
06:30The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies, civilians and military, is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it.
06:49American history does not distinguish between civilians and military, not even women and children.
06:54They are the ones who use the bombs against Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
07:01The fatwa applies to all those who assist and support in killing the sons of Muslims.
07:06I wrote some columns in which I raised questions about that edict, which is called fatwa.
07:20So I said, how can Osama Bin Laden or any other Muslim justify the killings of innocent non-Muslims in the light of Islamic teachings?
07:34We travelled to Kandhaar, that visit, that was terrifying.
07:54Because I saw them putting a watermelon on the head and Al-Qaeda fighters are practicing and shooting the watermelon.
08:05So, you see, it is terrifying.
08:06It is terrifying.
08:08I closed down my eyes many times.
08:11In my previous interview, I asked him many tough questions very easily.
08:15This time, after watching all this and realizing they are very dangerous people, it was difficult for me to ask tough questions.
08:25And I am asking him, Mr. Bin Laden, can you justify your addict?
08:31He was very hostile.
08:32You see, he was trying to justify the killing of every American.
08:36And he was using the name of Islam, and I was telling him that you cannot justify your views in the light of the teachings of Islam.
08:46But he was trying again and again to convince me, and I was not ready to agree.
08:53And he was taking breaks again and again.
08:56I realized he was also not fully equipped by the religious knowledge, and he was getting assistance from some other scholars.
09:08I was in the prayer hall of Al-Faroq camp.
09:36When I heard the celebratory gunfire outside and people, you know, shouting Allahu Akbar, and so I, you know, inquired what was happening.
09:47And they said that, rejoice everyone, the largest CIA station in Africa was raised to the ground, you know, with the big explosive device of the Mujahideen.
10:01CIA station, wow, like in the CIA was attacked in Africa.
10:05Then the news of the casualties started to come, that 12 Americans were killed.
10:12You know, well, hooray for that.
10:13Like, that's how we reacted.
10:17220 plus Africans were killed too.
10:22Many of them were Kenyans and Somalis, you know, who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
10:275,000 people were wounded because the device was heavily laden with shrapnel, which basically, like, I mean, maximized the casualties.
10:38Many people in Washington, especially in FBI headquarters, did not want to believe it is Osama bin Laden who did it because, guess what?
10:50They don't have any evidence that Osama bin Laden ever conducted a terrorist attack like this before.
10:55The first official assignment involving Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden happened after the East Africa embassy bombings.
11:05I was one of the agents who were tasked to see if bin Laden was involved in that attack.
11:12Eventually, we found evidence on the ground in Nairobi coming from one of the suicide bombers who actually survived the attack that he belongs to Osama bin Laden's network and he belongs to Al-Qaeda.
11:27Until that point, everything was defensive, you know, like, everything we were doing in Palestine, in Afghanistan, whatever was happening in Chechnya, all of that was reactionary jihad.
11:50It was reactionary resistance, right?
11:52And for the first time, we had one Muslim leader or icon step up and take the game to the opponent.
12:01So, I remember at that time, we used to say he was the first person to throw a punch back.
12:08He swears to rain terror on the enemy.
12:14That's when bin Laden actually became a legend to us.
12:18Changes were made today on the FBI's 10 most wanted list.
12:26But before they can arrest him, they have to find him.
12:29The U.S. continues to offer up to $5 million for information leading to the capture of America's most dangerous terrorist threat.
12:37I still remember it was late August and Osama bin Laden already arrived to Al-Farouq camp.
13:02Many hours later, in the early hours of the morning, I just saw many lights approaching and then diving into the camp.
13:30I think at least 20 missiles struck that day.
13:35Even the tent where I was, there was casualties.
13:39I felt extremely lucky to be alive.
13:43It really hit home.
13:46We are going into the path of endless, perpetual bloodshed.
13:52I received a phone call.
14:05I heard a voice saying, I am Dr. Zawahiri, and he said that sheikh, they called Osama bin Laden sheikh.
14:16They said, sheikh is sitting with me, and I will talk to you about a message which we want to be broadcast.
14:22So then we had quick greetings from Osama, and then Dr. Zawahiri gave me the message, saying that our camp was attacked by the Americans with cruise missiles.
14:39We survived.
14:39In fact, he said, we were 500 kilometers away, so he was making fun of American intelligence.
14:49And he said, now the war has begun, and we will reply in the same coin.
14:54We believe that the biggest thieves in the world are Americans, and the biggest terrorists on earth are the Americans.
15:05The only way for us to fend off this assault is to use our armies.
15:10We do not differentiate between those dressed in military or civilian attire.
15:15They are all the targets in this fatwa.
15:17Eamon Deen was so disturbed by bin Laden's targeting of civilians, he decided to leave al-Qaeda.
15:27I remember when I left Afghanistan, I was heading to Qatar under the pretext of medical examination.
15:35I was detained by the Qatari intelligence services.
15:38That set-in-motion series of events, basically, that, in the end, led to me being recruited by the British intelligence service.
15:50My role was to debrief the UK security agencies about al-Qaeda, about their camps, their safe houses, their training locations,
16:05as well as their training manuals, including explosives, chemical weapons, poisons, biological weapons, all of these things.
16:12It's only a few months into these debriefing sessions that it became clear that I could still return to Afghanistan with an excellent cover story.
16:28It means that I'm going there not as a member of al-Qaeda, but as a spy, as a double agent.
16:36When Deen returned to Afghanistan, he found security around bin Laden had become much tighter.
16:45Osama bin Laden became more and more invisible to his followers.
16:50It became very difficult to always confirm his location.
16:55I've met many jihadist leaders in my life.
16:58There is always one unique thing about these leaders, is that they are determined to fight as much as they are determined to die.
17:10But what they always wish for is that they don't want their death to take place unless they have caused the enemy maximum damage.
17:20Whilst bin Laden was less visible to his acolytes, he made sure the West did not forget him.
17:35It was broad daylight today when the USS Cole began to tie up in the port city of Aden in Yemen.
17:41The small boat with two men in it was apparently not seen as a threat.
17:45Tonight, we know that five American sailors were killed, a dozen are unaccounted for, and 36 were wounded.
17:55When I arrived on the scene on October of 2000, I was in charge of the investigation.
18:03I looked at the harbor.
18:05It was something that you'll never forget.
18:10Many of the victims fell when they were waiting in line to go and eat in the cafeteria.
18:15Well, the metal rolled like a carpet, and their bodies were entangled in the metal.
18:27The smell of death, it's something that will continue with you forever.
18:34The smoke is not going anywhere.
18:48Bin Laden did a video where he was wearing a Yemeni dagger.
18:51It was, I think, part of his son's wedding video.
18:55At the time, I kind of said, wow, we never saw him wearing a Yemeni dagger before.
18:59Wow, we never saw him wearing a Yemeni dagger before.
19:18He wanted to basically send a message against the might of the United States.
19:29The period in which the East Africa bombings happened, the USS Cole happened.
19:42The traffic into Afghanistan at the time, in and out, was quite significant.
19:47People were coming and going.
19:49I started to see the build-up of Al-Qaeda's jihadists coming to be trained to carry out attacks
19:56that would put terror and the fear of God literally into the hearts of the enemy.
20:01The
20:29As a example, in the end, they came to work with him
20:34because he was able to say his place, his freedom and his love
20:41from his friends.
20:50Following the bombing of the USS Cole,
20:53Bin Laden and selected senior members of Al-Qaeda
20:56were refining their plans for an even more ambitious attack on America.
21:01Al-Qaeda kept the plot under extreme veil of secrecy.
21:06Years after the event, when I met some senior members of Al-Qaeda later,
21:11they said that two-thirds of the Al-Qaeda Shura Council members
21:16never knew about the attacks until maybe a day or two beforehand.
21:21One of the aspects of Islamic theology that I taught myself about
21:28was dream interpretation.
21:31Abdul Aziz Al-Umari, one of the leaders of the 9-11 hijackers,
21:36came to me and he said that he saw a dream.
21:40He saw himself riding a giant green bird, just massive, the size of an airplane.
21:47And that he was riding that bird flying towards a massive tower.
21:53He knew that this tower was his target and then he smashed into it.
22:00He said to me, what does it mean?
22:07I said, your death is going to happen in a faraway land.
22:13And when Abu Hafs al-Masri heard the outline of the dream,
22:17he said, did anyone tell you anything about any plot, about any operation,
22:22about any attack we're planning?
22:23And he said, no, no one told me anything.
22:25So he took him to Osama Bin Laden and told him to repeat the dream to him.
22:32So Osama Bin Laden said, we have to include you in an operation
22:38because if we include you then we hope that your dream will be fulfilled.
22:44I never told the intelligence services about it at that time
22:48because I thought it's just a dream.
23:02On that time, we don't know the nature of the activities,
23:05but we, on the scientific science,
23:06we talk about small activities.
23:08It will be very important to us.
23:10It will be very important to us.
23:12After a speech, I talked to him.
23:15And I said, sheikh, I said, no, we don't have to meet after this.
23:18We can feel good or bad.
23:21And we don't know what's going on.
23:23So I said, I'm willing to return from the dream.
23:26And the children and the love between us,
23:29and the love, and the trust.
23:31But I'm not willing to die in the dream.
23:35Last time I ever met him,
23:37he appeared, as always, calm, collected, determined.
23:42I mean, no one detected any visible change, you know,
23:46that will tell you that something out of the ordinary,
23:50something extraordinary is about to happen.
23:52Before the activities, in a few days,
23:57we also had the sheikh the time that will be in the activities.
24:01So we were waiting for them.
24:03Just hours before the 9-11,
24:28my reception told me there's somebody from Kabul.
24:32He is here to see you.
24:34They put him on the phone and he said,
24:36I'm here with the message from the sheikh.
24:42I was 11 years old.
24:44And I remember getting out of class
24:47and suddenly everyone's gathered in front of the TV.
24:51I was coming to London for debriefing
24:54with the UK intelligence services.
24:57I went to Oxford Street.
24:59I saw a group of people around Dixon.
25:03There were so many TVs.
25:05And I saw so many people congregating around the screens.
25:08Then I saw the World Trade Center.
25:11The first thing that came to my mind, this is it.
25:14So he was looking towards the TV set.
25:18And there was a breaking news.
25:22I said, what happened?
25:24He said, there is a plane crash.
25:26Plane crash.
25:27I said, this is just an accident.
25:29Why are you dancing?
25:30So he gave me a piece of paper.
25:32So there was a small statement written in Arabic language.
25:35And he was looking towards the TV again and again,
25:40again and again.
25:41And he was saying,
25:42the second one, the second one, the second one.
25:47At this time, the television station was one of them.
25:52It was one of them.
25:53And we followed by the announcement
25:56of the earthquake at the first bridge.
25:59The people who were using all of them were using
26:03was the improvement and the improvement.
26:08I remember at that point,
26:10we were jumping up and down.
26:11We were throwing fists in the air.
26:13Then the second plane crashed in the twin towers.
26:30And the person started smiling.
26:33I collapsed on my chair.
26:35I saw the towers burning.
26:38And at that time, I remember praying to God,
26:41please don't make Muslim Mujahideen who did this,
26:46because it will turn bad for Islam and Muslims everywhere.
26:53The statement said that I am not directly responsible
26:57for what happened in America,
27:00but I praised their action.
27:03That was the statement.
27:06You can see the two towers.
27:10A huge explosion now.
27:12We better get out of the way.
27:13Oh my God!
27:14Oh my God!
27:15Oh my God!
27:16Oh my God!
27:17Oh my God!
27:18Oh my God!
27:19Oh my God!
27:20Oh my God!
27:21Oh my God!
27:22Oh my God!
27:23Oh my God!
27:24I prayed that Al-Qaeda has nothing to do with it,
27:29but my prayers were not answered.
27:33From that point on, I prayed secretly that he would die.
27:38After 9-11, Bin Laden became our idol.
27:44He was the hero.
27:46If you ever asked us how the death of common civilians in New York City made sense,
27:55we would be like, well, does the death of Palestinian people make sense to you?
28:00Now we realize that an eye for an eye would leave us with a blind world.
28:18Tonight, the United States of America makes the following demands on the Taliban.
28:32Deliver to United States authorities all the leaders of Al-Qaeda who hide in your land.
28:38They will hand over the terrorists.
28:41Or they will share in their fate.
29:08They will stop like a war.
29:09They said to them,
29:10I will not leave my family to my friends.
29:12They will say to them,
29:13my father or your son,
29:14my son,
29:15a man of a Christian for a Christian country.
29:16This will not be.
29:17If Afghanistan comes to Afghanistan today,
29:19we will be able to leave.
29:23We believe that America is in this period.
29:25They will not be able to send their mail from a wide area,
29:30and they will be able to leave Afghanistan.
29:33What America is living through today is nothing compared to what we have been living through for decades.
29:42Our nation has been living for more than 80 years with this kind of oppression.
29:47But now God blessed a group of Muslims and opened his doors before them,
29:52so they were able to destroy America.
29:55And I hope God will exalt them and welcome them in his heaven.
30:03Americans were trying their level best to hunt him down.
30:24And they were bombing Kabul very aggressively.
30:27In the same time,
30:34Hamid Mir is taken to meet Osama Bin Laden for the third time.
30:39It was early morning and I was blindfolded.
30:42His son, Abdur Rahman, had a digital camera,
30:49and he was acting as my cameraman.
30:52cameraman. I started my interview. He was full of hatred against President George W. Bush.
31:01At one moment, he said that if the Americans will use the chemical or nuclear weapons against
31:07Afghanistan, so we can respond back in the same manner. So I asked him a follow-up question and
31:14he said that he claimed that, yes, I have these kind of weapons as a deterrence.
31:19And then somebody rushed in and he said, we need to leave this place as soon as possible.
31:27So there was panic in the room. They left from the back door. I left from the front door.
31:38After my last interview with Bin Laden, I lost contact with him. I tried to meet him again,
31:47but I never got any information about his whereabouts.
31:56We had intelligence that Bin Laden was in the mountains of Tora Bora, which is a very difficult
32:05area to get to. It's very, very mountainous. I felt like September 11th happened. This is my way that
32:15I can contribute to the thousands of lives that were lost and that I can kill, you know, the person
32:22that did this.
32:25At Tora Bora today, U.S. fighter planes and B-52s dropped their payloads as part of the continuing
32:31quest to destroy Al-Qaeda.
32:34In those mountain regions, it's very difficult to capture or kill one person with only bombs.
32:52Unfortunately, there was a decision that was made that was clearly way above my pay grade,
33:02to not send ground troops into that area.
33:06It was a fight between religions. It was a fight between right and wrong. It was that black and white
33:14it was a fight for us back then. My grandfather sent his B-Islami fighters to extract Bin Laden
33:22from Tora Bora and probably saved his life.
33:27We believe that Bin Laden went into the Afghan-Pak border region.
33:33We sort of felt like we had this moment, right, that we could vindicate what had been done to us.
33:39And to sort of see that slip away was very frustrating. We lost him.
33:53Bin Laden and his family are fugitives.
33:59Hunted by the world's most sophisticated and technologically advanced spy agencies.
34:09I personally did not know where he was, but, you know, a lot of times we would sit around and talk about it.
34:21I know that seems like strange conversation, but, you know, sometimes it was just something we did.
34:26I visited Afghanistan. I was covering election there and I came to know he's hiding in Kunar mountains.
34:47So I went to Kunar and when I reached there, he left the place.
34:52How it is possible that when entire U.S. intelligence and other intelligence agencies
35:10are trying to find out Osama Bin Laden, nobody is able to find Osama Bin Laden?
35:15The intelligence agencies would eventually discover that, aided by old friends and associates,
35:27Bin Laden had crossed the Afghan border into Pakistan, moving from safe house to safe house.
35:33Moving in Pakistan was not some difficult thing for Osama Bin Laden.
35:43He changed his appearance. He was moving freely. He used to travel in vans. He would always use to move along his family.
35:52In Pakistan, whenever you are moving with the women at security checkpoints, they are lenient about you.
36:00One or two times he was also stopped by the security people, but he was having a different appearance and he was allowed to go.
36:08In 2005, Osama Bin Laden and his family moved to a city in eastern Pakistan.
36:20Most of the people who would live around the compound of Osama Bin Laden, they are middle class people.
36:26This was a very unusual house. 14 feet high walls with the barbed wires on the top of the walls.
36:38The balconies were also covered, so there was no apparent window which anybody could use to see inside who is living there.
36:48This compound became a settled home for Bin Laden, his wives and children.
36:57We always knew he was most probably hiding in Pakistan, but my god, I never thought he would be
37:03kind of just off the fence of the biggest military academy in the country. I mean,
37:09that was very interesting on so many different levels.
37:18The children would play in the compound. They were having the lambs, they were having rabbits, they were having pets over there.
37:48They would play with the small children, but most of the time he would spend watching television.
38:11During his 10 years in hiding, Bin Laden closely followed world events.
38:18They are not going to die. They are not going to die. They are not going to die.
38:26What we are witnessing these days of consecutive revolutions is a grand and glorious event.
38:31The exit of Muslims from being under the control of the USA.
38:36And the Americans worry about that, which is great.
38:48Bin Laden communicated to his followers via videos delivered by a trusted courier.
39:00We fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression.
39:05Just as you lay waste to our nation, so shall we lay waste to yours.
39:09We are not going to die.
39:10His followers, I guess, were satisfied with sort of, you know, a TV appearance.
39:16You know, once every six months or so.
39:19And as long as they had proof of life, I think they were satisfied in continuing his mission still.
39:26The breakthrough was the courier.
39:38We had information that led us to one of his couriers.
39:43The courier was traveling to a house and that house looked very suspicious and strange for the area.
39:50You know, we would have no way of knowing that he was actually there.
39:52And so I think, you know, a lot of it was hypothesis.
39:56They took huge risk.
39:59I'm Robert J. O'Neill.
40:01I was a Navy SEAL for almost 17 years.
40:06They brought us into a room and he said,
40:07all right, guys, the reason you're here is this is as close as we've ever been to Osama bin Laden.
40:16We went to the helicopters and we did our last thing, you know,
40:19pee in the bush, have a smoke, do whatever you do.
40:22And instead of handshakes, we gave each other hugs.
40:24And it's kind of like, all right, see you on the ground.
40:27Have a good fight.
40:31So at 80 minutes in, we're back to the south.
40:34And that's when the aircrew guys open the door and you kind of look out the window.
40:40There's already a gunfight.
40:41There's a couple of bombs going off.
40:43I look to the left, there's bin Laden's house.
40:46We went in through the bottom and there's a long hallway with doors on each side.
40:50On that stairwell was Khalid bin Laden.
40:53He's like 20 years old.
40:54That's one of Osama bin Laden's sons.
40:57The guy in front outmaneuvered him, shot him, killed Khalid bin Laden.
41:01And then we went up those stairs.
41:03Now we're on the second floor.
41:05There's one more stairwell to go.
41:08We went up the stairs.
41:09And there's Osama bin Laden standing there, three feet away.
41:13I remember thinking he's taller than I thought.
41:15He was taller than me.
41:16He's skinnier than I thought.
41:17His wife Amal is right in front of him.
41:19He's got his hands on her shoulders.
41:22And I don't know what he's doing, but he's not surrendering.
41:25And I'm assuming he's a suicide bomber.
41:27I've sworn to live in freedom.
41:35Even if I find bitter the taste of death, I don't want to die humiliated or deceived.
41:45He has a second to convince me not to kill him.
41:47He didn't do it.
41:48I treated him as a suicide bomber and I shot him in the face twice.
41:50He fell down and I shot him again.
41:52Tonight, I can report to the American people that the United States has conducted an operation
42:03that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of Al-Qaeda, and a terrorist who's responsible
42:09for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.
42:13I didn't feel ecstatic.
42:19I didn't feel excited.
42:24I just felt like, okay, he's done.
42:29Just because Osama bin Laden is dead, it does not mean that it's the end.
42:35He might be more valuable for the organization dead than alive.
42:44We listened to the first of those of the Most people that the Herrera,
42:46we said to Constantin, al-Qaeda,
42:49and the Prophet Muhammad, al-Qaeda,
42:53because the Lord, at the cost of the success of our Sheshiq,
42:55loshing, loshingen, loshingen, loshingen, loshingen, yimid,
42:59yimid, yimid, yimid, yimid,
43:01yimid.
43:02Yimid, yimid, yimid.
43:04Real-ifта,
43:05elhamid, yimid, yimid, yimid, elhamid, yimid.
43:09They were the only one in his hands with his wife and his mother,
43:12My first reaction was relief. It was absolute sense of relief.
43:28I did not feel the sense of either happiness or gloating. He was always warm and kind to me.
43:35It was just a sense of relief for everyone that this man's misguided quest
43:41is over.
43:58Taliban forces entered the heart of the Afghan capital Kabul today, the culmination of a rapid
44:04advance and retaking of control almost exactly two decades after they were ousted from power.
44:11The U.S. lost this war because democracy and their liberating mission ended up becoming one and the
44:23same thing. A liberating mission that meant that they didn't care for our culture, for our history,
44:29for our religion, that they were here to replace it. And that reinforced everything that bin Laden had talked about.
44:39He is a son of a billionaire who left everything behind in order to declare war that can bring the glory of
44:53Islam back. That's how they view him. That's how they look upon him. That's how Osama bin Laden
45:03will probably would like to be remembered. The only problem with that, that you have thousands and
45:11thousands of people who died in the process. Innocent people, Muslims and non-Muslims, people that had nothing
45:20to do with his wars. That's not leadership. So towards the end, I think it's one of the things where
45:28the passion of the heart blew out the candle of the brain.
45:36Now, 20 years passed since 9-11 and about 10 years passed since his death.
45:42But the world is still not very safe. And I fear that maybe not me, but some other young journalist
45:53will see another bin Laden because the situation in Afghanistan, the situation in Palestine,
45:59the situation in Kashmir and in other parts of the world actually created bin Laden.
46:05Now, I fear we may see more bin Laden's.
46:35so
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