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00:00You said there are people young enough in this room that have never been lost.
00:03In high school, me and my buddies, we try to go to an away football game to another, like, country town.
00:08And we drove around for three hours.
00:11And it's been 30 years, and we still haven't found it.
00:14I don't know where that high school is.
00:17What's up, Chris? How you doing, man?
00:19What up, Meltdown? Good to see you, brother.
00:21Good to see you. What do you got there?
00:23This is Lucy. She's my little dog.
00:25Now, do you take her on tour with you or no?
00:28She comes with me sometimes, but it's definitely not the rule.
00:32You know, I'm only in town for, like, three days.
00:35So that just gives her enough time to not get scared and start to eat again.
00:42So, yeah, I just leave her behind.
00:44My mom and dad have a dog, so she's got a friend.
00:47Okay, there you go.
00:49So you're going to be in town this weekend at Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle.
00:52It's funny because normally when I interview rock stars or whatever, which I do most of,
00:55I'll Google them and see what the news says about them.
00:58And so I Googled you, and this story came up from one of the local, like, websites.
01:02And it had a picture of you and saying you were playing there, and they just copy and pasted your bio.
01:08Yeah.
01:08Yeah, that's standard.
01:10And normally it's usually a bio from, I mean, I've gotten one that are like, this says you're 27.
01:16And I was like, well, that was 15 years ago at the time.
01:19Now it's 20 years ago.
01:21So, yeah, people don't, you know, Google makes it real easy to do a mediocre amount of research.
01:29Yeah, that is true.
01:30And even mediocre amount of research as far as writing articles, apparently.
01:35Oh, yeah.
01:36Well, now you can just ask AI to do it.
01:38So it's easy peasy.
01:39Yeah, AI is brutal.
01:41I mean, you probably talk about that in your show, correct?
01:44I haven't gotten to AI yet, mainly because I still use it to write a lot of my jokes.
01:50And no, I'm kidding.
01:51No, I don't really talk about AI yet.
01:54I don't really use AI.
01:57It scares me.
01:59I'm with you.
02:00I don't use it either.
02:01I'm afraid I'm going to ask it to, like, help me write a paper, and then it's going to tell me to kill my parents.
02:07And it's going to be very convincing.
02:09So, yeah.
02:11So I don't really use it.
02:13And from what I hear, I guess it's really bad.
02:15I mean, I'm not a huge environmental guy, but also I guess it's really bad for the environment.
02:21Okay.
02:21I don't understand.
02:22Well, I guess the computers that it takes to do that require a lot of water to cool them.
02:30I don't know.
02:31I don't know.
02:32Maybe it's just we have to feed Elon Musk all the water so that he doesn't just take it for himself.
02:38I don't know.
02:39But that's, you know, again, my news comes from Instagram.
02:43So I don't know if I'm the guy maybe to be hearing things, bro.
02:47Yeah.
02:47One of the funniest lines I'll never forget the first time I saw you use this line was at the Kid Rock Comedy Jam.
02:53I think the second one, if I'm not mistaken.
02:55And you said there are people young enough in this room that have never been lost.
02:59And that is so true.
03:01We got lost all the time as kids.
03:03Oh, I remember in high school, me and my buddies trying to go.
03:06I grew up out in the country.
03:07And we tried to go to an away football game to another, like, country town.
03:12And we drove around for three hours.
03:15And we still have.
03:16And it's been 30 years.
03:18And we still haven't found it.
03:19I don't know where that high school is.
03:21But we never made the game.
03:23I think when I first came here to interview to Detroit from Buffalo, one of my friends that used to make this trip all the time as he was a truck driver, he wrote me some instructions.
03:33He said, take this to the first big bridge, then take the 403, then take it to the 401, to the next big bridge here in Detroit.
03:39I'm like, that's simple.
03:40And then five hours later, you know, I'm still driving.
03:43So, yeah.
03:43And you're like, well, what big compared to other bridges or just in general?
03:48Because all bridges are pretty big.
03:50That's right.
03:50Yeah, but, no, so you grew up in a small town.
03:54So how big was your town?
03:56Because I thought that I thought in the research I did that the town that you live in maybe or that you're from is the fourth largest town in Missouri.
04:04Is that true?
04:05Well, I'm from Kansas.
04:07And so, yeah.
04:09I, you know, I don't, I lived in Shawnee, which is like a suburb of Kansas City.
04:15But my high school was even further out in the sticks.
04:19And so DeSoto, where I went to high school, was, you know, very rural.
04:26I didn't have a farm, but a lot of my friends did.
04:29It was like that kind of city.
04:30Like, it was like the neighborhoods were starting to move in.
04:34But it was still a lot of, you know, a lot of my friends in high school would be like, oh, I woke up at four in the morning and baled hay for the line.
04:42And so, and I was like, oh, I woke up 14 minutes before I had to leave.
04:47So.
04:48Yeah.
04:48There was a, there was a cornfield and still is behind the house I grew up in.
04:52Oh, wow.
04:53No, the field I rolled my mom's car in is now a subdivision.
04:58Like, everything's been built up.
05:00Like, if you went out there now, you're like, this isn't country.
05:03And I'm like, well, it's also not 30 years ago.
05:05So.
05:07Yeah.
05:07My town still remains pretty small.
05:09So how many people did you graduate with?
05:11A hundred and four.
05:12Okay.
05:12So I'm, I'm about that.
05:13I think mine was about 125 or so.
05:15Yeah.
05:15Same thing.
05:16Yeah.
05:16It was definitely one of those things.
05:18I knew everyone I went to high school.
05:20Yeah.
05:20I did too.
05:21And you, you probably like me could have told anyone where they even lived.
05:25Oh, a hundred percent.
05:27And you know, most of my, I mean, most of the people I went to high school with still live in that district.
05:33Yeah.
05:34Like, I, I think six of us have actually left and, and, and moved away and then came back.
05:41But yeah, it's, it's very weird.
05:44I went there to do a, uh, like a career day, which was a terrible idea on their part.
05:51Be a comedian.
05:52It'll be great.
05:53It always works out.
05:55Don't read the news.
05:56And, uh, so I went back and like four girls I went to high school with taught there.
06:02Hmm.
06:02Like, it's crazy.
06:04Yeah.
06:05You know, uh, I I'm coming up on my 25th wedding anniversary in a, in a few weeks here and I wouldn't change anything for the world, but there is a part of me that is jealous and envious.
06:14It's all my friends that never left town and married their high school sweethearts and still live there.
06:19Yeah.
06:20There is kind of a, uh, a, a naivete to it, or I don't know.
06:25There's just something where you wish like, yeah, man, I bet that would be great to just your life be like an episode of leave it to Bieber.
06:34Where you just, you around everything you ever grew up with.
06:39Uh, but you know, that being said, there's, I, I love the fact that I moved away and lived in a big city for a long time and did some really crazy things.
06:51And, uh, you know, but yeah, there is, there is that part of you that just wishes being backstage at a concert was a big deal again.
07:01Right. Yeah. You know, I was just thinking as you were talking, it's like, you know, um, even though, you know, that, that is kind of a cool thing from some of the people that we grew up with, you and I have had the chance to do many cool things.
07:12I've only been in Nashville, I think nine times and I've hung with you at least three or four times in Nashville.
07:18And some of the things that we've done there, it's like, we, I don't even want to talk about, but it's like, some of the stuff is just kind of insane. If you think about it.
07:25Oh yeah. When you, when your friends are like, Oh, I'm being a Zach Brown fan. You're like, Oh, I've hung out with him.
07:30Yeah. We play guitar for an hour drunk at kid rocks house. Yep. I've been there in that situation. Yep. Yeah. And people are just like, wait, you did what? You're like, yeah, man, he's a great guy.
07:43So yeah, it's look, we've led you and I've led a very blessed life and it's really cool, but yeah, there is something to be said for that.
07:51But, you know, the world being humongous and being just so enamoring. Cause I think there's definitely a cynicism when it comes to you and I, where you're like, yeah, it's not that great.
08:04It's not that great because we did it. If we, if we were looking from the outside, looking in, it'd be different, you know?
08:10Oh yeah. And if, and I just run, you know, I try to look back, like, especially like when you're backstage at a concert or whatever, I just always try to remember, like, I remember when I would, uh, I got to ride around with the black pros for like two weeks back in 2013.
08:242013. Okay. And I would, every show that I did, I would walk out to the very back of the room and I would just go, remember when this was your seat and how much you thought, how much you wish you could just go backstage and hang with the boys. And then I would do that. I would just walk backstage and I'd be like, we're doing, just do it again. Just so you know, you did it.
08:50And, uh, so yeah, but I, that's long. And, you know, now it's to the point where you're like, oh, I don't have VIP access. I'm not going, no, I'm not doing that.
09:00I know. I got, I got a little inside running joke with my friends. If I'm not made, if I'm not made to feel special, I'm just not going. Why would I leave my house if I can't, you know, go do the stuff where we like to do?
09:11Oh, that's a hundred percent. Like, it's like, I don't do live football games anymore because it's shot so well on television.
09:18Yeah. Just like, why would I go be around people? I don't like now. Um, so, so you're, you're in Kansas
09:26city and did you know last time? Well, I shouldn't say last time, but one of the times I saw you back
09:31last fall was with Brad Williams. Do you guys know each other outside of the comic world? Cause he's
09:36always at those games. I don't know what your relationship is with him. I know you, you played
09:39with him. Yeah. Brad Williams is my best friend in comedy. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We, we came up together.
09:45Obviously his, his rise has been a little meteoric than mine. Uh, but, uh, yeah, he and I have
09:54stayed great. As my record, I was out in LA last week. We had dinner. Uh, yeah, he's, he's
09:59a dude that I keep in constant contact with, uh, and love on a personal level. Yeah. He's
10:05a good dude. And so have you hung out with a Rob Dietrich as well from a Metallica's master
10:10distiller? Uh, no, I've not, I've not hung out with Rob Dietrich. No.
10:15Yeah. Cause Rob's a friend of mine. And when I knew I was going to see him in, in Nashville,
10:19I texted Rob and I'm like, Hey, I'm going to go see your, your boy, Brad. And it was
10:23kind of cool. Brad came up to me. He's like, Oh yeah. Rob told me you were coming. So.
10:26Oh, awesome. Yeah. That being said, I might've met Rob. So if Rob's watching this and he's
10:30like, we totally hung out, I'm sorry. Uh, but yeah, I, cause you know how it is when you're
10:36back, you're hanging out with a bunch of people like, Oh, this is so-and-so. And you're
10:40like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you like move on to the next 34 people you have to
10:43meet that day. So yeah. So Rob, if you're listening, if we've met, I'm sorry.
10:49That was great at the, uh, rhyming with, uh, Brad. And then it's funny. Cause at halfway
10:53through the show, I left, I went and got a drink and I'm standing at the bar and there's
10:56it, you know, it's kind of empty. There's everyone's in their seats. I look over at this
11:00guy and I'm like, man, that guy looks so familiar. I couldn't think of where I knew
11:02it from. And then you guys were playing that song at the end of the stage and at the end of
11:06the night on stage and he jumped up on stage. It was the guy from insane. Chris
11:11Kirkpatrick from insane. I looked at him like this guy from the only reason I knew him from
11:15was because, uh, I'd watched a documentary. Yeah, no, he's a, he's a great guy. He lives
11:21in Nashville and yeah, it was funny. Brad's like, Hey, I want you to open for me in Nashville.
11:26And I was like, fine. And then he was like, also, I want you and Zach to come up and play
11:29guitar with Chris Kirkpatrick. And I was like, well, you're asking that's a big tall order
11:34for such a short dude. And, uh, but we got it done.
11:39So, so people that may not know Zach is Zach Myers from Shinedown. You guys have played
11:43a bunch of shows. I think the last time you were here in Michigan, uh, was at the machine
11:47shop for your campfire astronauts. Is that right?
11:50Yeah. Yeah. That's the last time. Uh, it was, it was a lot of fun. Uh, me and Zach get together
11:55and we tell stories and play songs. And obviously the machine shop is a legendary venue. And, uh,
12:01it was, we were just blessed enough to Kevin's a good dude and took a chance on us. So it
12:06was a lot of fun.
12:07That was great. I think I told you, I might be one of only a few people outside your crew
12:11that saw that show solo shows twice.
12:14Oh yeah.
12:16Yeah. And the one time was at Zany's when, uh, when, uh, Kenny Wayne Shepard came up on
12:19stage and jelly roll as well.
12:21Oh yeah. That was the Nashville shows are always fun. Cause everybody lives in town.
12:26Yeah. Uh, but the machine, I, the machine shop was the best show of that tour. As far as like
12:31our performance went, like we finally kind of locked it in. That's the weird thing about that
12:36gig is, you know, we don't really have a lot of time to rehearse. So we just kind of show up and do
12:41it. So the, the more, you know, the more we do it, the better it gets. So. And of course, uh,
12:47Mark Ridley's comedy castle this weekend, uh, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. And I wanted to
12:52touch base real fast. Uh, I saw, you know, obviously you've got that, uh, that, that comedy
12:56album or comedy special you put out a couple of years ago where you're kind of, you, where
12:59you kind of made yourself up like the, uh, like the butcher album from the Beatles. Now
13:03I, I actually have one of them. I bought one for $8 and it's a phase two with the sticker
13:08on it.
13:09Yeah. Oh, that's a great, that's you've definitely made a lot of on your investment. That's for
13:14sure.
13:15Yeah. That was a kind of a, just a, just a lucky one by chance. I happen to grab that. What's the,
13:19what's the most valuable piece of vinyl you got?
13:22I actually do have a, I have a third state butcher album, so it's been peeled.
13:26Right. Uh, I got that in West or in Nyack, New York. I think last year I walked in and
13:32a guy had six of them in various States. And I walked in and I'm like, what is like, are
13:39these fake? What is this? And he goes, no, a guy just died. It was a huge collector of
13:45just, of just Beatles vinyl. And so he had that. And then they had a whole section of like
13:51rarities and B sides and live. I bought a couple of like live records from the early
13:56sixties and, uh, you know, they sound terrible, but it's, but you can hear it enough to where
14:03you're like, this is the Beatles at their youngest. It's, it's super great. But your second state
14:09is actually starting to become more valuable than a third state, just because so many of
14:14them have been peeled. Yeah. That, that people are actually starting to look at second States
14:18a lot more. So I just, I just happened to post it on Instagram. And one of my friends
14:22says, he goes, I think that might be, and he could see where the sticker was and he could
14:25see a Ringo's vest. Yeah. That's the, the black triangle is the big tell. Yeah. And so
14:31I've got, um, I've got some other ones. Uh, how many records do you think you have?
14:35Well, that many. Okay. So yeah, four or 500. Yeah. I would say right at four, maybe. Okay.
14:47Yeah. Yeah. I'm always in search. There's, there's a record place by the way, in Royal
14:51Oak, where you're going to be this weekend called UHF, which you might want to check
14:54out. I will definitely check it out. I'm always looking, uh, I'm always looking for new vinyls.
14:59So I, I found, I walked into a record store in Austin and it ended up costing me like
15:05$400. It was a rough day. I'm sure. So do you, do you, I know now I know that the one
15:11time I was with you, Kid Rock gave you his best of or something, signed it. That was
15:14really bad-ass. Do you look for like new records? You look for original ones or what
15:17are you looking for? Uh, I prefer the originals just because, you know, when they remaster
15:25stuff, especially nowadays, it's run, it there's, you can't avoid digital. Like
15:31it's, they're going to run it digitally at some point. And I, you know, the whole
15:37reason you get vinyl is for that analog sound. So as much as possible, I try to get
15:44OG pressing. Yeah. Me too. I was going to say, I think that they kind of almost have
15:50like a story to tell somebody owned this before me and you know, they went and bought
15:54it and then I got it or whatever the case is. But it's like, I could sit home all day
15:58long and tell my wife, Oh, get, give me a copy of this Beatles record on Amazon or
16:02something. That's, that's no fun. That's no fun. And, but you know, that being said,
16:07if a record is, you know, the new records you, you have to, they're all right. You, you just
16:13is what it is and you buy it for the experience. But, uh, you know, the older records, if they're
16:18hard to find, I'll buy a reproduction, but always, always on the search for an original
16:25pressing. And so what was the first one you bought? Do you remember the first record I
16:30bought? I don't know. Uh, well, the first record I bought, I had ever was Michael Jackson
16:40thriller because I'm old enough. I'm old enough to wear the first copy. My parents bought me
16:46was vinyl. And, uh, I think I still have that copy. It's in terrible shape because you shouldn't
16:53allow an eight year old around records. Uh, but, uh, I do have three other copies of thriller
17:02that I bought before the documentary. And, uh, so yeah. Um, like I, the reason I, that Austin
17:11record store cost me so much, I only bought four records, but one of them was an original
17:17pressing of a meters record. And another one was a dyke in the blazers record, which is a guy that made
17:27one record and then died of a heroin overdose. So it was, it was, but yeah. So like those records
17:32are very expensive, but they're also never going to lose value because they're not going to be made
17:38any. Yeah. I'm always on the search for a eighties, hard rock and metal records. And those are really
17:44hard to find. And if you do find them, they're expensive. Yeah. I mean the, the OGs. Yeah. If you
17:49want to like a first pressing, but, uh, it's the later nineties records that are hard to find
17:55cause they just weren't making as many. That is true. Yeah. So I think you're about 10 or 12
18:00years younger than me. Did, did you buy records when you were a kid or was that already like kind
18:03of CD phase? That was all, I wasn't into records until my early twenties. Okay. Uh, but no, in my,
18:11in my high school years, it was tapes and CDs all the way through. Yeah. Cause I don't even think,
18:17you know, I seriously doubt they printed poison flesh and blood on vinyl. Right. Yeah. And for,
18:25and for good reason. Uh, but you know, the, you know, I was a kid, so you were, you were into
18:31what was super popular. So for me, it was Bon Jovi, you know, poison and then fresh Prince of
18:39Bel-Air and DJ Jazzy Jeff and all that stuff. So. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, we can sit
18:45here and talk vinyl all day long, but, uh, you're going to be coming up to the, uh, Mark Ridley
18:48comedy castle all weekend, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday will give you a good push. And, uh, I think
18:53I'll see you there one of these nights, maybe Friday. Yeah. Let's do Friday. Friday's the best
18:58day for me. Cause that's the night I can drink. Okay. What about Saturday? You don't drink on
19:02Saturday? Saturday. I'm usually, I'm on the first flight out, so I don't like to get too weird.
19:09Understandable. All right. Well, thank you so much for the time, man. I appreciate it. Can't
19:12wait to see you this weekend. Thank you, brother. Can't wait.
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