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Housing and Transport take centre stage at Insider's Opportunity Bath and NE Somerset breakfast
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11/06/2025
Insider's Remy Greasley speaks to Paul Harris, chief customer officer at Curo Group and Annie Legge, co-founder of Tech4Good South West after Insider's Opportunity Bath and North East Somerset Breakfast.
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I'm Paul Harris, I'm the Chief Customer Officer for Curo, the social housing organisation based
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in Bath. Well so lots of discussion around how we need to innovate, how we need to grow our economy
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but also some of the barriers to that which were mainly transport and housing. It's difficult to
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live in Bath and if you want to live further out into North East Somerset the transport
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infrastructure is not great so I think those points kept coming up again and again through the whole
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discussion. I think it's a long-term plan that needs to be in place to change and really it's
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about changing the system so tinkering at the edges by making planning better or making this better or
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that better tends to have unintended consequences and we've seen that over decades. Really I think
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what we need is a system-wide plan to entirely change the way we think about housing and that
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needs to start with it being about purpose like what is the right purpose for housing, what is the
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right need for housing, where does it need to be and at that point to then start thinking about how
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we're going to finance it with the land etc. The problem at the moment is housing is only built
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when it's viable for developers because they can make a profit on a particular slice of land by building
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a particular sort of house. That doesn't meet need and we've ended up with an ever widening gap between
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what people need particularly in terms of affordable housing and what's available. That's why in Baines
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there are 6,700 households on the waiting list looking for somewhere to live. It definitely
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definitely goes under the radar when most people who don't live here think of Bath they think of
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beautiful buildings and tourism and those sorts of things which are you know all true but
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the city and the wider district hides a lot of inequity and a lot of poverty. Bath of North East
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Somerset was the only local authority area in England last year, not sure if it's still true
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this year, to have lower than average wages and higher than average house prices. So there's a
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structural inequity in where we all live here which needs to be thought about. So we've set up a group
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called the Housing Mission Delivery Board and its responsibility is to try and deliver the affordable
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housing pillar of the economic strategy for the district. So we've got people from all aspects of
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the system there and what we have done is create a vision and by 2050 everybody will have the right
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place to live and be able to live and work where they where they please. But also we've created a
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systems map which is about how to do things differently in housing because only by changing the whole system
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can we solve the problem. So it's going to take a lot of time. The first thing that we're going to do
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is we've got three or four trailblazer projects we're calling them where we want to try and test the new
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system and prove that it works. So we're trying to find the right ways of doing that across Bath and
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North East Somerset in the next couple of years. If we can make those pilot projects work and prove
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the system we can then try and roll it out across the whole of the district for everything. Sure I'm
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Annie Legg and I'm co-founder of Tech for Good Southwest. Yeah it's super interesting, a lot of very
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different conversations around obviously the opportunities and challenges for running businesses
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here in Bath and North East Somerset. Yeah I suppose we're really passionate about firstly digital
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skills so making sure that organizations have the skills they need to thrive in society but
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we're particularly thinking about charity sector and social enterprises so businesses that are not
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just thinking about economic growth they're also thinking about actually the impact that they can have
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in our communities as well. Yeah I guess what we're kind of engaging with is obviously kind of
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third sector organizations but also particularly within the tech sector businesses that are either
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designing technology that's going to have an impact in the world itself or businesses that really also
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want to engage staff in getting involved in volunteering around skills but also those that are
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just generally conscious about actually okay we're doing well in our business but actually what impact
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can we have in our local communities as well. We had a couple of businesses here today so Maiden
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obviously a really prime example of that they get involved in so much in the community as well.
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Runway East who just opened a new workspace here in Bath actually they've given us some access to
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space so that we can actually bring some of our members together and that just kind of really shows a
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bit more of a social conscious in the city as well. Yeah yeah definitely but it's hard like I think you have to
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also be quite open to just show up and turn up in different spaces because actually it's quite hard to see
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it's not very visible who's actually here in terms of businesses in terms of opportunities
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and so I think it does also take quite a lot of extra effort than perhaps in some other places that
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can be challenging. Yeah I suppose I'm thinking more about things like convening spaces and ways in which
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to kind of bring particularly one of our kind of real focuses is acting as that kind of bridge between
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sectors and actually how do we have the opportunities to do that quite often we end up more physically in
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Bristol because a that's where people are kind of congregating but there are also a lot more kind
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of opportunities in terms of space there and actually that's kind of more convenient for people
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to kind of come to but I think you know really hopefully we've got a lot we've got a lot of new
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great spaces opening up in in Bath as well and hopefully that means that we'll start to see people
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being more visible and then there's opportunities for collaboration and community and we're only going to grow
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a lot of new ways from there.
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