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00:01My daughter almost died in front of me.
00:03You need to stop getting in the medical team's way.
00:06I just need to get her out of there.
00:08For God's sake, get control of your drinking.
00:10Are you having an affair with Charlotte Hinman?
00:12If you want me to represent you alone,
00:14know that this will be an act of war against your marriage.
00:18Things are likely to escalate as a result of all three of your children now showing indicators of abuse.
00:23On the laptop, check the search history.
00:26We need to ensure that you maintain custody of these children if they go after Jess.
00:30I'm saying this is serious.
00:41Do you really have to go to work?
00:42I don't have a choice.
00:49You'll be okay. You'll be okay.
00:52Oh my God.
00:54Boys, are you excited to start the wedding system?
01:06Just a minute, I'm coming down.
01:14No!
01:15No!
01:17Betsy!
01:18Betsy!
01:21No!
01:28I'm a bad mother.
01:31A bad, bad mother.
01:51Dad!
01:54Dad!
02:21Dad!
02:52You off?
02:53Yeah.
02:55I hope you have a quiet one.
02:57I'm going to say goodnight to Betsy.
02:59Okay, see you.
03:08Hello?
03:22Shit.
03:26When did you last see Rand?
03:27Ten, eleven minutes ago.
03:28Betsy was in her bed?
03:29Yes, of course. She should still be there.
03:31She's gone.
03:32Look, we need to tell security. Call the police.
03:34No, not yet. Not yet.
03:36Why not?
03:37Because she might be with her mum. She won't have gone far.
03:39This is madness. That baby's under police protection.
03:41Please, just do what I say.
03:47Have you seen Mrs. Carrisford?
03:48No.
03:51Mum!
03:54Mum!
04:05Baby abduction. Notify security.
04:07All staff to man.
04:08Main exit, please.
04:11Put me through to the police.
04:18Oi!
04:21All right, man.
04:35Make sure you check the CCTV.
04:47Jess!
04:51Jess!
04:58Jess!
05:00Jess!
05:02Jess!
05:04Jess, please.
05:05Let's just talk.
05:08Please, talk to me.
05:14Jess.
05:22If we're going to take her,
05:25I'm going to protect her.
05:26Yeah, I know. I know you did. I know you did.
05:29But this is not the way to do it. Please.
05:33Betsy's condition's still really serious, Jess,
05:35and we can't monitor her when she's out here.
05:37We can't help her if she has another seizure.
05:40We've got no oxygen or anything.
05:42Please.
05:44Jess, I know you wouldn't want to hurt her.
05:47I know you wouldn't want to hurt her.
05:50Just wait. Just give me a minute.
05:52Just give me a minute.
05:55Please, Jess, just open the door. Let's talk.
06:01Unlock the door.
06:05OK.
06:08OK.
06:10Please, I promise, I promise, I will take care of her.
06:14I'm never going to forgive this.
06:17Well, that's a shame.
06:19I'm sorry you feel like that, Jess, because I...
06:25I believe you.
06:27Jess, I know, I know you didn't hurt Betsy.
06:34Please.
06:36I know. Come on.
06:39Shh, shh, shh. I know. Come on. It's OK.
06:43It's OK. It's a good girl.
06:45Well done, Jess.
06:53It's OK, babe.
06:55It's OK.
06:56If you could please step out of the vehicle.
07:13It's OK.
07:32It's OK.
07:43That's it. Come on. Night-night.
07:50Sweet dreams.
08:03Stand up, please, Mrs Carisford.
08:06Jessica Carisford, I'm arresting you for abducting a child in care.
08:09You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence
08:12if you do not mention when questioned something which you'd later rely on in court.
08:15Anything you do say may be given in eminence.
08:30Be gentle with her.
08:42I don't think Jess even knew what she wanted to do when she took Betsy.
08:46I don't think she was thinking that far ahead.
08:49I think she believed that just in that moment,
08:53Betsy needed her more.
09:00But, Char, this can't be a repeated Friday.
09:06You know what? You can't actually kick me out tonight.
09:09Remember?
09:10The safety plan. I legally have to be here.
09:12Bad luck.
09:14Jess, don't tell Ruston that you're sleeping over.
09:16He's already convinced we're having an affair.
09:19What, the bar?
09:21The copious amounts of alcohol?
09:23He can see how he reached that conclusion.
09:36Eddie.
09:41Andrew, he's a really wonderful man.
09:43I mean, we don't even fight, but he's not...
09:48He's not...
09:51He's not you.
09:55So, I don't know how you feel, OK, but for me, it's always been the same.
10:00I can't bear seeing you like this, and so I'm just... I'm going to say it.
10:04I'm going to say it out loud, and then it's just done, OK?
10:08Yeah.
10:10I'm...
10:16I'm in love with you.
10:21I love you, Ed.
10:26I always have.
10:29And...
10:32I'm... Yeah, I'm prepared to leave Andrew for you.
10:40I'm...
10:59Oh, Charlotte.
11:06Oh, my God.
11:10I'm... I'm so sorry.
11:14Charlotte.
11:17You are my dear, dear friend. I think the world of you.
11:24But I do love Jess.
11:27I'm going to do everything I can to protect her and be there for her.
11:31And I'm sorry, but you and I...
11:36This can't happen.
11:40It's Liz.
11:46Ed? Yeah.
11:47Jess has been arrested. She tried to take Betsy.
11:50What?
11:51The baby's OK, though.
11:53Oh, my God. OK.
11:56Jess just tried to abduct Betsy.
11:58Ed?
11:59Go on. Where's Jess now?
12:02Right, thank you. Thanks, Liz.
12:10OK.
12:34Hello?
12:41Hello?
12:46Oh!
12:47You home, then?
12:52Yeah, I, um, went to see Connor.
12:54Oh.
12:57Feeling goey?
12:59No.
13:00He doesn't want to see you.
13:03I need to ask him about what happened today.
13:06Has he told you anything?
13:07They don't want a bully for a son.
13:09Connor's not a bully.
13:11You sure about that, are you?
13:14Yeah.
13:21Did you take money out of my account?
13:24My card got declined today.
13:25Uh, yeah, I did.
13:26I needed to top up the mortgage payment,
13:28but I'll put some money into your account later.
13:31My phone's not working.
13:32Well, I forgot to pay the bill.
13:42Oh, are things really that bad?
13:43Oh, are things really that bad?
14:02I don't know why you just won't let me get a job.
14:07Um...
14:09Well...
14:11Doing what, exactly?
14:14Just, sorry, remind me what it is that you're qualified to do.
14:24Where are you going? Come on.
14:25To see Connor.
14:26Well, bad luck, because these are my sisters, so...
14:30Why, don't you believe me?
14:38Hello?
14:48Andrew, what is going on?
14:49How did you get her to...
14:51They won't even tell me where they're at.
14:52They've arrested her.
14:53Go home.
14:54You're not doing anyone any good here.
14:56I'm not going to leave.
14:59I've just spoken to the duty sergeant,
15:00and they've told me they're not going to interview her tonight.
15:04They're going to keep her?
15:05They can keep her for 24 hours.
15:09Go be with your boys.
15:13All right.
15:38Bad, bad mother.
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17:11Push now.
17:12We need to get her out.
17:15No!
17:27Is she dead?
17:37No sentiment to touch. She's bleeding out.
17:45No!
18:15Jess.
18:21Oh, thank God.
18:24Andrew.
18:26How are you?
18:30I brought you some food and a cup of coffee.
18:46Now, if you agree to instruct me, I will act as your legal representative today.
19:00Her lawyer's arrived.
19:03So, current timeline we are working to.
19:06Friday after school, Jess is at home alone with their two youngest.
19:10She claims that Betsy Slips bumped her head on the fridge.
19:12No, but Socko found no DNA evidence backing this up.
19:15Their eldest, Kit, arrives home at 6.45 from football.
19:18And Jill Baker, the parent who dropped Kit off, hears the baby crying from the driveway.
19:22But Jess claims that she puts the kids to bed as normal.
19:25She turns in herself around 9.
19:28Ed gets home at 10, inebriated, finds the baby in distress, raises the alarm.
19:32Anything else?
19:34I asked financial investigations to expand their check.
19:39Look at the time of that transaction.
19:43Whose card was used?
19:45Jessica Carisford.
19:47Have we sent a PCSO to pull CCTV?
19:50Yeah. For now, we've got to focus on this interview.
19:54What are you thinking?
19:56I think that Carisford's lived a very charmed life until child number three.
19:59That's when everything started to fall apart.
20:02Are we looking at a violent mother who hurt a child on purpose?
20:06Or a desperate woman who accidentally lost control?
20:13Yeah, I mean, either way, she put her sick child at serious risk by snatching her from ICU last night.
20:19Oh, last thing.
20:21Her lawyer, Andrew Hinman, married to Charlotte Hinman.
20:26Quite the tight-knit, well-to-do social circle, isn't it?
20:36Now I have to ask, has anyone interviewed you since you were taken into custody?
20:40No.
20:42Has anyone made you sign anything?
20:46Have you said anything to the police that I need to be made aware of when they brought you in?
20:52Like what? What are you suggesting?
20:57It's just all a big blur last night. I don't remember much.
21:01Jess, I'm here as your friend, but I'm also your lawyer now.
21:04I will protect you, but you have to be completely honest with me.
21:08Of course.
21:11So is there something you want to tell me?
21:14Something you haven't told anyone?
21:17About what happened?
21:24They weren't looking after her.
21:36Anyway, I should get moving.
21:39Wait.
21:41For God's sake, Rob, why did you rush them in?
21:44I wanted to talk to you and I wanted to say goodbye.
21:46You knew that.
21:48Sorry, I didn't see you and I'm not a mind reader.
21:51Why are you doing this?
21:53Doing what? I'm really sorry about this.
21:55What are you talking about? I've been waiting the kids off to school.
21:57You know, it's really hard for them not to feel abandoned when the mum's just left them.
22:01You're punishing me.
22:03What?
22:05All I'm doing is helping our friends out for a few days.
22:06You're my partner and I love you and I want you to come home tonight.
22:10We just don't fucking bother coming back at all.
22:14No, do you know what, Rob?
22:16I'm not doing this anymore. I've had enough!
22:20Mel. Hey, Mel. Mel.
22:23Come on, we're coming home with you. Come on.
22:25Come on.
22:32Here you go, Rob.
22:37Nick.
22:42Nick.
22:45There's going to be a clinical incident report with my name on it and that is not good.
22:49But what happened isn't your fault.
22:52And whatever she's going through, she's obviously not coping, so...
22:56Yeah, and then I went and made it worse.
23:03You could have just put a note on her file.
23:06No.
23:11The minute she came into A&E on Friday night, I never gave her enough time.
23:16No, I was just focused on the baby. I was in work mode.
23:21I didn't treat her like a friend. I treated her like a stranger.
23:25I just think you're being a little hard on yourself.
23:29If you're in a safeguarding role, you have to act.
23:36So you would have done it?
23:40Would I have called social services on Jess?
23:43Probably. I don't know. It's hard. It's Jess.
23:48Right.
23:59How was the hangover?
24:02I'm not... I don't...
24:04It's been day. I found the bottle of Prosecco.
24:09No, don't start.
24:11I...
24:12Honestly. It's like my first drink in three days.
24:18Well done on your remarkable restraint.
24:21Yeah, thanks. Thank you.
24:23I surprise myself sometimes.
24:34Shouldn't you be at school?
24:37It's careers morning. I've got a free period.
24:46You know, a whole bottle of Prosecco at midnight is not nothing.
25:05I'm sorry.
25:11It won't happen again.
25:13It will, until you realise that you can't just have one drink.
25:17All right. Everybody's got their own unhealthy coping mechanisms, haven't they?
25:22It's just... It's not every day.
25:24Yes, it is.
25:26It's not every day.
25:28It's not every day.
25:30It's not every day.
25:31It's not every day.
25:33It's not every day.
25:35It's not every day.
25:37And I'm worried.
25:42Hello, Mrs Carriswood.
25:48Right.
25:52So, there'll be a buzzing for a couple of seconds and then we can start.
25:55Okay, Jess, tell us about when you took Betsy.
26:07Why did you do it?
26:10Because I love her and I was worried about her.
26:15But taking her away meant you put her in danger.
26:19I wasn't thinking.
26:20I was trying to protect her.
26:23I thought they were going to take her away from me.
26:28You grew up in the U.S., didn't you?
26:30Yes.
26:31Somewhere without a public health care system, when you don't care for our medical system.
26:38I don't really trust doctors.
26:40I don't think they always know best.
26:43And you don't like medicating your children, is that right?
26:47Not unless it's strictly necessary.
26:52And you don't believe in vaccinating your children?
26:56I believe vaccines are risky and that drug companies aren't always transparent.
27:02But that's an informed choice that's hardly a crime.
27:05Look, I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I am trying to do what's best for my children
27:12and to keep them safe, always.
27:18And do you always try to keep Betsy safe, Jess?
27:20Of course I do.
27:22It's what mothers do.
27:23But you didn't keep her safe on Friday, did you?
27:25Yes, I did.
27:26Well, then can you explain to me why it took you over five hours to bring her into the
27:30hospital?
27:31Because I'm a bad mother.
27:33I told you.
27:35I didn't want to overreact.
27:36I told you all of this already.
27:40It didn't seem any more serious than a tumble that my two boys might have had when they
27:44were toddlers.
27:45Well, you're a bad mother.
27:46An evil mother.
27:49My client has said she didn't realize the severity of the injury.
27:52But you didn't even bring her in after she'd been sick in her cot.
27:54That's a clear sign of a concussion.
27:55I didn't know that she'd been sick.
27:58I was asleep.
27:59Right.
28:00According to your husband, you were in bed.
28:02It had been quite a day and I was exhausted.
28:07But if I had known that she was sick or was crying, of course I would have gone in.
28:13I mean, I'm not a monster.
28:14I'm not the mother you think I am.
28:16Look, by all accounts, you're an attentive mother, a good mother, aren't you, Jess?
28:22Yes.
28:23Your children are always well-dressed and fed.
28:25Look, there was nothing else of any concern on Betsy's skeletal survey.
28:29And look, we've seen the social media posts, the happy kids and the beautiful home.
28:35Okay.
28:38So what I'm struggling to understand is what happened that made you dismiss Betsy's injuries
28:44as something that didn't need hospital attention?
28:47Because an attentive mother is always alert to the possibility of her baby waking up.
28:52She doesn't just lie there ignoring her baby.
28:55I was not ignoring her.
28:57She was exhausted.
28:58She fell asleep.
29:03What does your husband think of your relationship with Betsy, Jess?
29:06What?
29:07Does Ed think that you're bonded with Betsy?
29:09Does he think you're in tune with Betsy's needs?
29:13I think so.
29:15Isn't that what you argued about?
29:16Isn't that why he had to come home Friday lunchtime to check up on you?
29:19Because he was concerned about your relationship with your daughter.
29:25How does that make you feel?
29:26Your husband coming home to check up on you, does that make you feel angry?
29:32So angry that you would take it out on Betsy?
29:34They think I'm a bad mother.
29:36And Betsy is upstairs screaming!
29:38You're a bad mother.
29:40You're an evil mother.
29:42No.
29:43Did you know that your husband was so concerned that he confided in a female friend minutes
29:49after leaving you on Friday lunchtime?
29:50What are you talking about?
29:52Immediately after leaving you on Friday, he and this friend, they shared a few bottles
29:58of wine, an intimate wine bar.
30:00In fact, they spent the rest of the afternoon together into the evening.
30:03I don't know what you're saying.
30:04With who?
30:05Mrs. Charlotte Hinman.
30:08Did you find out about your husband's betrayal?
30:10Did it make you angry, Jess?
30:12No.
30:13So angry the next time you're with Betsy, you're changing her nappy.
30:15Maybe you're a bit brusque with her.
30:16Rough with her.
30:17No.
30:18Maybe she just wouldn't be quiet, right?
30:20You're distressed because Ed is coming home to check up on you, and you've just found
30:23out that he is confiding in Charlotte Hinman.
30:26No.
30:27You're frustrated.
30:28You're exhausted.
30:29These are a lot of emotions, Jess.
30:30No.
30:31Right?
30:32And Betsy just will not be quiet.
30:33Why not?
30:34Did you want to grip her a bit harder?
30:35Did you want to shake some sense into her?
30:36No.
30:37You knew that you shouldn't do it, but it's all getting a bit much.
30:38You're shaking her.
30:39Maybe you just acted out.
30:40You're changing her nappy.
30:41It's all getting a bit much.
30:42Maybe you acted out.
30:43Did you want to grip her hard?
30:44Did you want to shake her?
30:45Shake some sense into her?
30:46No.
30:47And just bang her head, Jess.
30:51No.
30:52Sorry.
30:53I think my client needs a moment.
30:54Perhaps we could take a short break, please?
31:01Okay.
31:12Come on.
31:22When our babies were tiny, Jess became convinced that they'd slept together at uni.
31:27It became an obsession.
31:30She worried that Ed would find Charlotte more attractive and leave.
31:36We could all see that Ed or Jess and Charlotte could only have ever been a fling.
31:40At best.
31:43Still, nothing you could ever tell me about those two would surprise me.
31:51Sorry.
31:52Everything all right, sir?
32:12I can't believe Jess, of all people, has been arrested.
32:15I know.
32:18Ed's devastated.
32:20Andrew said the police are being relentless, and it's hard to imagine a jury feeling any sympathy for a mother who's accused of harming her baby.
32:29But, Mel, we also need to talk about what just happened at school.
32:33I don't understand.
32:34Why is he being so vile to you?
32:37He's lovely 80% of the time.
32:40He just...
32:42He just doesn't like it when I do something he doesn't want me to do, like...
32:46...helping out the Caris Fritz.
32:53And he's really...
32:55...secretive about money.
32:58I never see any bills.
33:00The house is in his name.
33:01I've no idea how much money we've got or haven't got.
33:07And now he's withdrawn the amount he gives me each month.
33:09Wait, he gives you an allowance?
33:11I don't think of it like that, but...
33:14Look, since he was made redundant, we've...
33:16Hold on. He was made redundant?
33:18I thought he was striking out on his own.
33:20Yeah, well, that's what he wanted.
33:22But Ed never invested.
33:26I don't know, Charlotte.
33:27Every relationship has its ups and downs.
33:29Well, yes, I know it does.
33:32But, Mel, this is extreme.
33:36Charlotte, I'm not like you.
33:39With your career, your confidence, your determinations.
33:45I haven't worked in over a decade.
33:48I've no income, no savings.
33:52He said if I ever try and leave him, he'll take the kids.
33:55I knew he was a bit of a dick, but...
34:00I don't know how you put up with it.
34:01I mean, you can't be happy.
34:04Are you happy all the time?
34:07Well, no.
34:09Of course, everybody knows marriage is hard, and...
34:12At least you've got a good one at Andrew.
34:25BEEP
34:32So, we'd like to talk about the timeline Friday early evening,
34:36specifically the time between 6 and 6.30.
34:39You told us that once you'd returned home from the school run,
34:42you didn't leave the house again.
34:44Kit was picked up for football at 4.45, but you didn't leave.
34:49Is that still your recollection?
34:52No comment, Miss Jess.
34:56Yes.
34:58Now, as discussed, everyone that we've spoken to
35:00has described you as a very attentive mother.
35:04Would you agree with that assessment?
35:08Sorry, for the tape.
35:11Yes.
35:12You're not the sort of mother who would leave her young children alone in the house.
35:21I'm not that sort of mother, no.
35:24And just to clarify, your stance on Medicaid and your children
35:27is so firm that you would only do so if strictly necessary.
35:37You wouldn't even keep children's paracetamol in the house.
35:40BEEP
35:44CRIES
35:45GASPING
35:55Cry baby.
35:57CRIES
35:58CRASH
35:59God dammit!
36:03CRASH
36:06CRIES
36:10Please don't scream, please don't scream.
36:27No don't do this!
36:34She's your friend!
36:38I'm just trying to help!
36:42Don't.
36:43Don't scream!
36:45Please don't scream.
36:49Stop crying!
36:52Mother.
37:23There you go.
37:27Bye bye.
37:29Hi, what can I get you?
37:31Children's paracetamol please.
37:33Is it for baby or the older ones?
37:35The baby.
37:37Is she teething?
37:39Peek-a-boo!
37:41Peek-a-boo!
37:45There you go.
37:53This footage shows you in superb deli stores at 6.23
37:56on the day you brought Betsy to hospital.
37:58You're purchasing children's paracetamol
38:00an hour after you said your daughter sustained a head injury.
38:03I must object to this being sprung on my client without warning.
38:06This is you in the footage, yes?
38:10For the tape, please.
38:12Yes.
38:14You look distressed in this recording.
38:16That can't be deduced from this image.
38:18We also spoke to Jill Baker, who dropped Kit off at 6.45.
38:20She confirmed that you seemed distressed, distracted,
38:23like you'd been crying.
38:25Had you been crying, Jess?
38:31Possibly.
38:34Possibly?
38:38Probably.
38:40Something happened to cause this distress.
38:44What happened, Jess?
38:46What happened that was so distressing
38:48that you would leave your ten-month-old baby
38:50and your young son
38:52to go and buy medicine that you would only use
38:55if strictly necessary?
38:57Medicine that was necessary
38:59because you knew that Betsy was hurt?
39:02Why would you leave them, Jess?
39:05Did you leave them after you did something that you didn't intend?
39:10After getting frustrated and losing your temper?
39:13Jess...
39:16You leave them because you hurt Betsy?
39:21How did you fracture her skull, Jess?
39:26I didn't.
39:28I didn't do it.
39:41Hello, sweetheart.
39:44I missed you, too.
39:46Oh, hello.
39:48You better keep your distance, young man.
39:50I'm not pleased with you at all, at all.
39:52Are you coming home?
39:54Don't change the subject.
39:55You're never home.
39:57Hey, listen, I actually came home to talk to you last night about Frankie, but...
40:00Hey, listen. Listen, you and I,
40:02we're going to have a proper conversation about all this.
40:05You can't treat people like that without serious consequences.
40:10Hiya.
40:11Where's Molly?
40:12She's busy with Betsy.
40:13But have you seen Kit's cool cast?
40:15You OK?
40:16Yeah, good.
40:17I can take the kids to Jess's for pizza.
40:19Well, considering our son was the one being attacked yesterday,
40:21I think we should probably head off, don't you?
40:23Come on, you two. Come on.
40:24It's just a play date. They're fine.
40:26Look, they got homework.
40:28Since when did you give a shit about homework?
40:30Well, one of us has got to be responsible.
40:32Molly, Connor, in the car now.
40:34Oh, just remember what I said.
40:36Molly, Connor, in the car now.
40:38Oh, just remember what I said earlier, OK?
40:40Tonight.
40:47Come on, troops.
40:49Let's go home.
40:55Hi.
40:56Oh, hey.
40:59How was work?
41:00Yeah.
41:01No drama.
41:03Apart from someone totally trashed the boys' toilets.
41:06Ew.
41:09How was your day?
41:11Yeah, it was good.
41:12I spent the afternoon googling symptoms, actually.
41:14Went down a bit of a wormhole.
41:16It still terrifies me that doctors use Google.
41:19I just...
41:20You know we all do it, right?
41:23Go on, then.
41:25OK, so...
41:27I think Jess is suffering from a mental health disorder.
41:30A postnatal anxiety.
41:31I found this thing called perinatal OCD.
41:34It's a form of obsessive-compulsive disorder,
41:36but it's triggered by the birth of a child.
41:39In this case, Betsy.
41:42I just think it would explain her behaviour over the last few days
41:45and why she's not quite the Jess we know.
41:48Mm.
41:49What do you think I should do?
41:52Well, I mean...
41:53You have to tell Ed.
41:55Not exactly his favourite person right now.
41:58Well, I mean...
42:00I could come with you. A bit of solidarity.
42:03Thanks, but I just... I don't think so.
42:06Hey, hey.
42:07If you think that this can help Jess, then you have to try.
42:12Even if Ed isn't your biggest fan,
42:14Jess is what matters most.
42:17Mm.
42:24And I've been thinking about what he said this morning.
42:28Yeah?
42:29Yeah, about the drinking.
42:32And you're right.
42:34And I do need to sort it out, and I will.
42:44That's really good, Frank.
42:46OK.
42:47Pizzas are in.
42:49Thank you, Auntie Charlotte.
42:50Thanks, Auntie Charlotte.
42:53Fiance's 89.
42:55Sweet.
42:56Right, then. We'll do the last one after dinner.
42:58I already know the last one, Dad.
43:00Go on.
43:01It's D.
43:05Hi. Hi.
43:07Hi, guys.
43:08Just wanted to see how you're getting on.
43:12How's Jess?
43:14Andy said to call if you had any news.
43:16Right, then.
43:17We should hear in the next few hours.
43:21I've been doing some reading,
43:23and I think that Jess is suffering from a thing called perinatal OCD.
43:29All right, go on.
43:30It manifests itself in, like, compulsive behaviour,
43:34like obsessing over whether your children are safe,
43:37or compulsive cleaning to manage your thoughts.
43:40For how long?
43:42I don't know. Probably since Bessie was born.
43:45And she might have been trying to keep control ever since then.
43:49But does this make her more or less guilty?
43:56I don't know, Dad. She's not my patient.
44:01Yeah. Right.
44:19Do you think that she could have actually hurt Bessie?
44:36I'd like to remind you that my client has been in custody for 20 hours at this point.
44:39She has a family and a sick child. She's been extremely cooperative.
44:42DC Farron and I are in a relationship.
44:44I'd like to remind you that my client has been in custody for 20 hours at this point.
44:47She has a family and a sick child. She's been extremely cooperative.
44:50DC Farron and I are in agreement.
44:52We'll be referring the case to the Crown Prosecution Service.
44:55Then I insist Jess is released on pre-charge bail immediately.
45:00Stop crying!
45:08Mrs Carisford?
45:10Mrs Carisford, did you hear me?
45:12After the skull fracture, we feel we have sufficient evidence to convince the CPS
45:15to charge you with child abduction and child endangerment.
45:32Mum?
45:36Mummy?
45:39In the morning, you'll be taken in a police van to the Magistrates' Court
45:42for your first appearance, where the court will decide if you should get bail.
46:00I am a bad mother.
46:03A bad mother.
46:08Mummy's a bit upset.
46:10Mummy's a bit upset.
46:12Mummy's a bit upset.
46:14Oh Betsy, did you do a smelly poo?
46:18Oh it's okay, Mummy will be back in a minute.
46:38Mummy?
47:08Mummy?