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105.5 WDHA Talks With Ace Frehley - PART 4
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4/23/2025
105.5 WDHA's Terrie Carr talks with Ace Frehley and Steve Brown.
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We are hanging out with the one and only Ace Frehley.
00:03
The behind-the-scenes stuff.
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Steve Brown.
00:05
And Steve Brown.
00:07
It's so much fun because we're just getting all these great stories.
00:11
We want to talk about guitar playing, though.
00:13
I want to get into guitar playing because I said the sound,
00:15
when I first heard the opening riff of 10,000 Volts
00:21
and also Walking on the Moon,
00:23
which I think is this fun, it's like a bluesy banger.
00:29
It's got just great texture to it.
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Steve wrote the intro to Walking on the Moon.
00:34
I love it.
00:35
It's brilliant.
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I love it.
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And there was something about that guitar.
00:42
And I thought to myself, wow, this is so Ace Frehley.
00:45
And you talk to so many young artists who influenced you.
00:48
Steve just said, Eddie Van Halen and Ace for him.
00:50
And I talked to so many people that passed through here.
00:53
And your name, Ace, comes up so much.
00:57
So talk to me about this being a guitar record
01:00
because this is a guitar record.
01:03
And I want to talk to you guys about the construction of that.
01:07
And was that always something that you envisioned
01:09
or did it just sort of come out that way?
01:12
Well, I think the most important thing was the fact that Ace and I
01:16
are both guitar players first before we started writing songs.
01:20
So the guitar, it's a part of our personality, part of our being.
01:26
So my goal, and I said this to Ace.
01:28
I said, Ace, we really need to focus on getting you these,
01:33
getting back to your classic way you used to construct guitar solos.
01:37
Yet it was spontaneous.
01:39
But we also would go, I would let him play and play through the whole song.
01:44
Go, hear that?
01:45
That's great.
01:46
We need to repeat that because Ace's solos back,
01:48
especially on the Kiss songs, the great solos,
01:51
he would repeat licks a lot.
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They were very thematic.
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So that was my goal.
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And what was so cool is I would have a guitar
01:58
and Ace would have a guitar.
01:59
He'd be plugged in and we'd just let the song rip.
02:02
And I'd go to him while he's playing because he's very much,
02:05
he loves to be spontaneous and raw.
02:07
And I'd be going, no, dude, we got to make this.
02:10
It's got to make sense.
02:11
And then I would sit there and just because it was easy for him to understand,
02:15
I'd go, dude, play the shock me lick.
02:18
Play the thing you did in 100,000 years, you know, Kiss references.
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And then he would sometimes go, I don't want to play that.
02:24
That's boring.
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And then 30 seconds later, he would play that lick.
02:28
And I'd go, I got it.
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Because the other cool thing when you're recording in Pro Tools,
02:32
you record everything.
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And so we would do 10 takes.
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And then I would sometimes put it together.
02:38
But that was one of the really cool things about getting.
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And I think as a guitar player, and I think all the guitar fans out there,
02:44
when they hear 10,000 Volts, they're going to say,
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this is one of Ace's greatest guitar playing records that he's done in,
02:52
you know, 40 years, I think.
02:54
What was that song that you wrote, the majority of it,
02:58
the rhythm part, and you were happy with it?
03:02
And I was happy with it, but I said, this song needs a bridge.
03:05
You go, it doesn't need a bridge.
03:07
Well, that was walking on the moon.
03:08
That was walking on the moon.
03:09
Yeah, I wrote the bridge for walking on the moon.
03:11
He woke up.
03:11
Because it didn't have a bridge.
03:13
Right.
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He woke up at 3 o'clock in the morning.
03:15
He recorded the vocals and recorded the guitar.
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Now, I had the duty as an engineer to cut and paste and chop it all in
03:21
and make it work.
03:22
But again, what he did by himself, singing and recording and playing,
03:27
engineering in his own studio, we were able to use that.
03:30
So that's the beauty.
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And again, recording at his studio in Sparta
03:34
and my studio in Ringwood, New Jersey,
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it was just a marriage made in heaven.
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It was the perfect working environment.
03:39
And we recorded the song Blinded, right?
03:42
Came out great.
03:44
So, 7 o'clock in the morning, you know,
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you wake up and you're like half asleep, half awake.
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A lot of times they get creative ideas at that juncture.
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I called up Steve and I go, why don't we use, open up the song with the chorus,
04:01
a cappella, just to give another, you know, flavor to the record.
04:06
Yeah.
04:06
And he did it quickly.
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He says, let me just try it right now.
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Because he works on, he's such a quick engineer at editing on Pro Tools
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because he's been doing it for 30 years.
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And he called me back and he goes, amazing.
04:20
Amazing.
04:20
Yeah, we went for like, you know, I told him, I said, it's like, you know,
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it's like Kansas, carry on your wayward son,
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or like you give love a bad name.
04:27
But I said that to Ace and he goes, I love Bon Jovi.
04:30
That's perfect.
04:31
Yeah.
04:31
It was killer.
04:31
And it was unique because we also wanted to make each song have its own
04:35
unique thing.
04:36
And like the song Constantly Cute, which is unique because we have Ace's
04:41
fiancee, Lara, who sings background vocals.
04:43
Singing background, right?
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And I'll tell you the story behind the title.
04:46
Lara's talking to me.
04:47
We were looking at photographs of me from the 70s to now.
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And, you know, I was saying, you know, I'm starting to look a little old,
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you know.
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I don't know if it's time for another facelift or what.
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She goes, forget about it.
05:01
She goes, you're constantly cute.
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And then she starts, she continues to talk.
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I go, oh, Constantly Cute.
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That is a song title.
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And there you go.
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I call up Steve.
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I go, we got to write a song Constantly Cute.
05:13
That's awesome.
05:14
One day.
05:15
Yeah, that's right.
05:16
I love, and watching the two of you together, you know,
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and this is what I love the most.
05:22
It's not just what came out of the record,
05:24
but it's how excited you are and how excited you are.
05:28
I mean, that's what music is all about.
05:29
It's that passion of putting out great music.
05:34
Again, Tara, this is, at 72 years old, this is a guy who has kind of been reborn musically on this record.
05:42
This is his most successful record, Monarch, the label Monarch Heavy, who's putting it out.
05:47
They've told me and Ace, you know, we're already at millions of streams, the views on the video.
05:52
To be able to have this kind of success, it's rejuvenated him.
05:55
And much like, if you listen to the new Rolling Stones record, those guys are 80 years old,
06:00
and they made the best record that they've made in 40 years.
06:02
I love that record.
06:03
Hackney, Diamonds, Dynamite.
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Dynamite, Dynamite.
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And I, you know, put that up.
06:08
Age is irrelevant here.
06:09
I picked the right line of work, because I can do this until I'm 80.
06:13
You can do this forever, Ace.
06:16
I just had a physical from my doctor.
06:19
This is a funny story.
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And he starts laughing in the office.
06:22
He's going over my blood work.
06:24
He goes, Ace, for the last three years, your blood work has gotten progressively better.
06:29
You're the only patient I have that's aging in reverse.
06:33
Yes!
06:33
We need that!
06:34
It's because he's electrified.
06:36
He's full of 10,000 volts all the time.
06:39
All right, I'm going to play.
06:40
We got to do a little New York groove.
06:42
Then I'm going to come back.
06:43
I want to talk about the Carteret Pack show.
06:44
Don't let me forget, because I want everybody to get their tickets.
06:48
Ed's out.
06:48
We're hanging out with Ace.
06:50
It's a great way to spend a Wednesday.
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We're going to get him back here every Wednesday.
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