PTI Delegation Meets Maulana Fazlur Rehman: Kamran Murtaza Reveals Inside Story

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00:00It is very important to talk about two other issues.

00:03One is the government.

00:04Mr. Waqas has repeatedly said that the government has not shown seriousness.

00:06What is this?

00:07You are talking about the translation of the Mudakarati Committee.

00:10You have sent the police to arrest him.

00:11He has left the house number 18.

00:13Otherwise, he would have been arrested today.

00:14So, why did the government do all this?

00:16When it was showing so much interest in Mudakarati,

00:19then why did it do all this?

00:21And the second big development,

00:23we will ask the government's translation.

00:24And the second is that the same PTI,

00:26which has gone to Maulana's door 26 times for the 26th amendment,

00:29then some 26 people must have given 26 statements against Maulana Sahib.

00:33And to this extent,

00:34we do not consider him to be a member of the opposition.

00:36He is not a member of the opposition party.

00:37He does not have the temperament of this party.

00:38We have just heard all the statements.

00:39And his father does not trust him.

00:42So, how can we trust him?

00:43Today again, he went to Maulana Sahib.

00:45So, what is this?

00:46What does Maulana Sahib's party think about this?

00:48Maulana Sahib's party's senior Anumay is in this.

00:50So, from here,

00:51Maulana Sahib's party's senior Anumay,

00:53it can be said that any important development

00:56is in his knowledge, for sure.

00:59Senator Kamran Murtaza is with us from Maulana Sahib's party.

01:03And from here,

01:04Daniyal Chaudhary Sahib,

01:05Parliamentary Secretary for Information,

01:07which is also related to the PECA Act,

01:09we will talk to him about that too.

01:10And PMLN's, of course, senior Anumay is also there.

01:13So, I am very thankful to both of them.

01:15Kamran Sir, first of all,

01:16you tell us,

01:17when the PTI came today,

01:18what did it say?

01:19Earlier, when it came in the 26th amendment,

01:21it was clear,

01:22when they are coming,

01:23that they are saying,

01:24Sir, this is the government,

01:25you help us,

01:26and you don't vote in this.

01:28This was their agenda.

01:29And then what happened,

01:30that happened.

01:31We don't repeat it now.

01:32When they came today,

01:33what were they saying?

01:34What do they want?

01:35They had kept three things.

01:36One, they said,

01:37that we have come to you,

01:38the negotiations that have taken place

01:40between us and the government.

01:41Yes.

01:42On that,

01:43we have to tell you,

01:44we wanted to tell you,

01:46what happened between us and them.

01:48So, they trusted Maulana Sahib.

01:50Okay.

01:51Second, they said,

01:52that in the election commission,

01:54of the chief election commissioners,

01:56and the two members,

01:58there will be elections.

02:00In that,

02:01we want to meet you,

02:03and together,

02:04we will choose a name,

02:06who can get a fair election in the future.

02:09And third,

02:10we should be able to walk together,

02:12on the same path,

02:13according to which,

02:14we should follow the constitution,

02:18and for that,

02:19we should struggle.

02:21In the true sense of the constitution,

02:24we should be brave,

02:25and the rest,

02:26we should follow the law.

02:28So, these three things,

02:29they had written,

02:31and Maulana Sahib had a very long meeting.

02:34I was also present there.

02:36Were there any complaints,

02:38or any previous statements?

02:40A committee has been formed in that.

02:42At the moment,

02:43Asad Qaisar Sahib is there,

02:44and I am there.

02:45And,

02:46that committee,

02:47where there is an immediate problem,

02:49so,

02:50we will talk to each other first,

02:52and then,

02:53we will decide on the leadership.

02:55If there is a problem,

02:56then,

02:57he will lead his leadership,

02:58and I will lead mine.

02:59So,

03:00these three things,

03:01they told you in detail.

03:02What was your reaction to this?

03:04They trusted us.

03:07The conversation between them,

03:09between the two parties,

03:10they told us.

03:11We are grateful to them.

03:12We thanked them,

03:13that they considered us worthy,

03:15and told us.

03:16Obviously,

03:17we were not obliged to tell them.

03:20Right.

03:21Secondly,

03:22regarding the election commission,

03:23regarding the election commission,

03:25Maulana Sahib told them that,

03:26actually,

03:27in the election commission,

03:28whoever you elect,

03:29they are deciding.

03:31As far as the actual clarification of the system is concerned,

03:34that will not happen.

03:35Until then,

03:36the matters will remain the same.

03:38We gave them an example,

03:39of Fakhr-ud-Din Ibrahim Sahib.

03:40He was a very honest man.

03:41He was very extraordinary.

03:43But,

03:44in the election,

03:45he failed.

03:46He failed.

03:47Maulana Sahib,

03:48I am sorry to interrupt you.

03:49I remember,

03:50Khan Sahib's statement was on record,

03:51that the government of Noon League,

03:52did only one good thing,

03:53in its entire tenure.

03:54That is,

03:55Fakhr-ud-Din Ibrahim was appointed

03:56as the Chief Election Commissioner.

03:57And, in that election,

03:58there was no one more rebellious than Khan Sahib.

04:00Yes.

04:01But, he failed.

04:02Yes, yes.

04:03The reason for that failure,

04:04is that,

04:05we keep removing water from the well.

04:08But,

04:09the reason for removing the water,

04:10is not removed.

04:11Right.

04:12That is what Maulana Sahib told them.

04:14And, the third thing,

04:15what did Maulana Sahib reply,

04:16to the statement,

04:17that you are with us,

04:18for the benefit of the constitution.

04:19Yes,

04:20Maulana Sahib,

04:21is not the only one,

04:22who can make such a decision.

04:23The party members,

04:24will have to trust him.

04:25He said,

04:26that,

04:27the situation is,

04:28that,

04:29as far as we have come,

04:30there are some issues,

04:31due to which,

04:32there is a feeling of distance.

04:33So,

04:34these two people,

04:35Asad Qaisar Sahib,

04:36and I,

04:37should try to,

04:38divide the distance.

04:39Then,

04:40we will see,

04:41what will happen,

04:42in the elections.

04:43But,

04:44we will see.

04:45We will keep the matter,

04:46in front of our institutions.

04:47And,

04:48I think,

04:49we,

04:50have succeeded,

04:51in building the constitution.

04:52Okay,

04:53Kamran,

04:54tell us one more thing.

04:55We feel,

04:56that,

04:57now,

04:58correct me,

04:59if I am wrong.

05:00That,

05:01JUIF,

05:02is clear about this,

05:03that,

05:04issue to issue,

05:05PTI,

05:06or opposition parties,

05:07can be supported.

05:08But,

05:09on the street,

05:10a street,

05:11or a state,

05:12should not be shared,

05:13with a long march,

05:14with Maulana Sahib's workers,

05:15and PTI.

05:16This cannot happen.

05:17Is this,

05:18your position,

05:19even today?

05:20My position,

05:21in your program,

05:22I had said,

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