" Mazakraat kamyab hotay dekh raha hoon" Sher Afzal Marwat ko yaqeen kis baat ka?

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00:00Is it true that the house arrest of Mr. Khan is on the cards?

00:05Is it true that the rest of the party convinced Mr. Khan to veto this proposal?

00:13This proposal came on 22nd November.

00:17In fact, let me tell you, Governor Rao's hearing had started in Natia Gali.

00:22And in those negotiations, the negotiations between 22nd November and 25th November,

00:27it was decided that Mr. Khan will be released by the middle of December.

00:32So, if anyone wants to convince us that Mr. Khan is the house arrestor,

00:37even Mr. Khan will not agree because of his 500 days of worship,

00:43which he spent in jail and imprisonment.

00:46And now if he comes back to the house, or if he is imprisoned somewhere,

00:51and gives the impression to the public that as a result of this deal,

00:54someone has been shifted to a better jail, then this is not a gain for us.

00:58So, what will be the basis of this?

01:01All the cases against Mr. Khan, the results of all those have been revealed.

01:06There is one Al-Qaeda Trust case.

01:09Everyone knows what are the limits of that case in the eyes of the law.

01:14If there is justice, then there is no other hurdle in the release of Mr. Khan.

01:19So, if we keep Mr. Khan in jail, what else is there to achieve?

01:24If we keep him in jail, then the mandate was stolen, the elections were stolen,

01:29the constitution was amended, the 26th constitution was amended,

01:33and whatever the system wanted to do with BDI, it did.

01:37Now, they have achieved this, they have taken over the government,

01:42but they have also incurred losses.

01:45So, where has the politics of Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Zardari gone?

01:51Have you seen in a single year that anyone has been able to hold a single Jalsa?

01:55Even today, we say that they should hold a Jalsa somewhere.

01:59The people of Pakistan…

02:01They did it yesterday in Naudero, right?

02:04Yes.

02:05The People's Party does it every year on 27th.

02:07No, that was a grand Jalsa.

02:08Respected Benazir Bhutto's…

02:10They have a voter base, if they want to mobilise it, they can do it in their areas.

02:14They have done it in Sindh, but you are right,

02:17they have lost a lot politically in the system.

02:21There is no doubt about it.

02:22PMLN has lost a lot.

02:24So, the negotiations that are taking place right now,

02:26the time frame of 31st January,

02:28do you think that there will be a major development during this time,

02:31or will it be a slow process?

02:35Rana Sanamullah has said a very good thing,

02:38that the intentions of the people,

02:41that is, the intentions of the negotiating teams are very strong.

02:44If our intention is to get the people out of this dilemma,

02:48this uncertain situation,

02:52then there will be no hindrance.

02:55So, what is the intention right now?

02:57At the moment, my personal opinion is that

03:02I think that these negotiations will be successful.

03:06Will they be successful?

03:07Why? Is there anything special that you feel this time?

03:09Because the negotiations before 26th January were not successful.

03:12Then the unfortunate incident of 26th November took place.

03:14Even then the negotiations were taking place, but they were not successful.

03:16How will they be successful this time? What is the difference?

03:19Look, at that time, both sides protested.

03:22Okay.

03:23Right?

03:24We should have stopped before 26th November.

03:30If we do not stop now,

03:31then we should not make Tadhi Chowk a place of death.

03:34So, what has happened is that

03:37the people are paying the price, Pakistan is paying the price.

03:40Look, at the incident of 26th November,

03:42the international community,

03:44which has spread all over Pakistan,

03:48who is firing at the people?

03:50For no reason.

03:51You are also a Chowki.

03:52Are you a Chowkidari of the Khilafat-e-Kaaba?

03:54What is the difference now?

03:55Why do you feel that the negotiations will be successful now?

03:57Is there any special facilitation?

03:59As I was listening to you, you talked about it.

04:01Are there any special guarantors?

04:03Are there any special mediators?

04:05Are there any people who will sit and talk?

04:07Both of us need these guarantors.

04:09They need them,

04:11the system needs them,

04:13the establishment needs them,

04:15and the PMLN and all its allies need them too.

04:19They want, as Mr. Rana said,

04:22to let us govern.

04:24And this is not being governed.

04:26If you look at the media,

04:29or if you look at your sector,

04:32your industry,

04:33or if you look at politics,

04:35economy, real estate,

04:37sometimes there is an end to it.

04:40There is uncertainty everywhere.

04:42People don't know this.

04:44Did we ever think that

04:46someone would shoot the Pakistanis at UD Chowk?

04:48We never thought that.

04:50Did we ever think that

04:51the mandate would be stolen on 9th February?

04:53Anyway, what has happened,

04:55both sides are paying the price.

04:57Our leadership is locked up in jail.

05:00We can't go back.

05:02We can't go inside Pakistan.

05:04And wherever we go,

05:06the police, the Al-Qa'ar,

05:08and the daily press.

05:10So how is the intention right?

05:12When on the one hand,

05:13the military courts are given the right punishments,

05:15making a judicial commission is the PM's left-hand game.

05:18The temperature will come down

05:19if they make a judicial commission.

05:21Have you seen any practical steps

05:23to make a judicial commission?

05:25This is what I see.

05:27There will be stages.

05:29On the first stage,

05:31the political prisoners will be released.

05:33If they are released,

05:35then on the second stage,

05:37if there are negotiations,

05:39then the participants for the negotiations

05:41that Khawaja Saad Rafiq has mentioned,

05:43will be required on the second stage.

05:45Because this will be Pakistan's

05:47number one leadership

05:49who will sit with the establishment

05:51and decide whether

05:53the country should be run like this

05:55or we have to

05:57implement the law,

05:59the fundamental human rights,

06:01the dream of democracy,

06:03a bright future,

06:05a Pakistani who is running away

06:07from the country.

06:09This has to be addressed.

06:11So on the second stage,

06:13Mr. Khan and all of them

06:15can sit at the table and make

06:17a road for Pakistan.

06:19The political prisoners

06:21will give you a political space

06:23so that you can come

06:25and give them a more

06:27difficult time politically.

06:29If there is an understanding

06:31developed, then we have to

06:33think for Pakistan too.

06:35If we get the understanding

06:37that all of us are thinking

06:39for Pakistan,

06:41if we had the power,

06:43we would have formed

06:45an alliance with the People's Party

06:47What will be left of the PTI's statements?

06:49If you step back a little,

06:51if you allow the government to govern,

06:53then all your statements are

06:55that your mandate has been stolen.

06:57I agree with this.

06:59But if you take a step back,

07:01won't you have a political loss?

07:03For example, what is the loss?

07:05Politically, at the present time,

07:07PTI and Khan have reached

07:09the heights of acceptance

07:11and solidarity.

07:13The aim of all statements

07:15is to win the hearts of the people.

07:17Today, the people of Pakistan

07:19are with PTI and Khan.

07:21And if you step back,

07:23do you still feel the same acceptance?

07:25At the present time,

07:27what happened to us is enough

07:29to give us political security

07:31in the next five years.

07:33So, you think that

07:35your politics has been set for five years?

07:37Look, who will give

07:39the PMLN court

07:41with this past

07:43election?

07:45What do you think?

07:47We will know in the next election

07:49who will vote for them.

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