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"Stock market ke barhne se awaam ka hukoomat par aitmaad zahir hota hai."
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1/3/2025
"Stock market ke barhne se awaam ka hukoomat par aitmaad zahir hota hai." Ali Pervaiz Malik
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00:00
The stock exchange in 2024 has skyrocketed.
00:06
You are laughing. I am not talking about the stock exchange in China.
00:11
If you say that the stock exchange has not grown,
00:16
then if it was falling, then you would not say that the government's stock has failed.
00:20
I am not talking about that. I am talking about something else.
00:23
I will not talk about that.
00:24
I have just finished working on the stock exchange.
00:28
The stock market has grown by 85% in 2024.
00:33
Wow!
00:34
85%
00:34
85%
00:35
And after 2002-2003, it has grown the most in the history of Pakistan in one year.
00:42
You should be happy now.
00:44
Your love should be shaken by what Muzammil is saying.
00:47
What is the reality behind this?
00:48
I am not shaking because I know that you have to say the next thing.
00:52
The reality is that the stock market has grown by 52,000 points.
00:58
And there are 5 shares in it.
01:00
No. 1 FFC
01:02
No. 2 Mari Petroleum
01:04
No. 3 UBL
01:05
No. 4 OGDC
01:07
No. 5 Angro Fertilizer
01:09
These 5 stocks have increased by 20,000 points because of them.
01:13
These 5 stocks.
01:14
There are more than 500 shares in the stock market.
01:17
After this, listen to me about the sector.
01:22
12,000 points have increased because of the banks and the bank sector.
01:26
13,000 points, sorry.
01:28
11,000 points have increased because of the fertilizer.
01:31
And 10,000 points have increased because of oil and gas.
01:34
35,000 points have increased because of these 3 sectors.
01:36
And there are 17-18 sectors in the market.
01:38
Now these 3 sectors.
01:39
What is the connection between the banks and the common people?
01:42
The one who got the highest all-time high share of interest.
01:44
His profits increased.
01:45
He got sixes.
01:46
Fertilizer.
01:47
You have just seen the agriculture in the country.
01:49
0.92% growth.
01:51
40% decline in production.
01:55
And 12% decline in the growth of the main crop.
02:00
So, the fertilizer has increased its profits.
02:04
So, the 2 companies that I mentioned in the top 5 were of fertilizer.
02:08
So, if the price of fertilizer increases, then what will happen?
02:11
The food is expensive.
02:13
Third, oil and gas.
02:14
In the history of Pakistan, the prices of gas have increased by 800% in the last 1.5 years.
02:21
Oil and gas companies have started getting cash because of the prices of gas.
02:24
Otherwise, the government did not release money due to circular debt.
02:28
This third sector was also a threat to the common people.
02:30
So, these were the 3 sectors due to which the 35,000 points increased.
02:34
52,000 points.
02:35
85% growth.
02:36
And 5 companies.
02:37
Now you can call this a success.
02:39
I have put it in front of you as an analyst.
02:41
There is no party talk in this.
02:43
I have put it in front of you.
02:44
So, Ali Bhai.
02:46
Let's quickly answer the question of the capital market.
02:48
Mr. Muzammil, the summary of this is that it is wrong to portray it as a barometer of your economy.
02:56
These are some specific shares.
02:58
These are based on some specific reasons.
03:00
And some specific people are benefiting from it.
03:02
That's all.
03:03
Look, you see the Karachi Stock Exchange as a forward-looking index.
03:09
And use this as a barometer.
03:14
Is the confidence of the people, the trust of the people, the path adopted by this country and this government, better or not?
03:24
Tell me, the price earnings ratio that reflects the growth opportunities.
03:30
Won't it be 4 to 6 times?
03:32
Isn't Pakistan's stock market a forward-looking indicator?
03:36
Isn't it the best index in the world?
03:38
Okay, if you reject this too.
03:41
So, the international rating agencies are giving you a positive outlook.
03:45
They are upgrading your outlook.
03:47
Tell me about that.
03:49
Tell me about CDS.
03:51
So, the request is that all these things are based on the trust of the people.
03:57
And this is the expression of trust of your domestic and international investors.
04:02
That the government is on the right path.
04:05
Mr. Muzammil, please comment on this.
04:07
I remember that Mr. Khan has said this 500 times in his government.
04:11
That the biggest problem is the current account deficit and the current account surplus.
04:15
And if this improves, then the economy will improve.
04:17
If we take that as a benchmark, then this is the best economy in the world.
04:21
And it's still going on today.
04:23
Mr. Khan has explained to people what this term means.
04:27
He has repeated it so many times.
04:29
Look, there is import and export.
04:31
There should be more and less.
04:33
This is called the difference.
04:35
And if this improves, then the economy will improve.
04:37
So, it has happened.
04:39
If Mr. Khan was outside, he would have said that the current account is not the problem.
04:43
It's the financial account.
04:45
Under the current account, there is a financial account.
04:47
So, you are saying that he is not talking about himself.
04:49
No, no, listen to me.
04:51
No, no, Mr. Mifta is sitting here.
04:53
He is a Ph.D. in economics.
04:55
He should agree with you.
04:57
Look, what is a financial account?
04:59
Where the whole world sends you money.
05:01
FDI, foreign direct investment.
05:03
You get bilateral and multilateral money.
05:05
Pakistan has lost its financial account since 2022.
05:09
The current account is in compulsion.
05:11
What Mr. Mifta has said.
05:13
This is a demand contraction in this country.
05:15
That's why imports are over.
05:17
Because people don't sell their goods.
05:19
Shopping is over.
05:21
The real problem that happened in Pakistan two years ago,
05:23
which I did not see in 75 years.
05:25
Pakistan's financial account is gone.
05:27
Your FDI is over.
05:29
You tell me.
05:31
After that, you are not getting euro bonds.
05:33
You are not getting grants.
05:35
No country is funding you bilaterally.
05:37
Multilaterally, you have taken what you have taken from IMF.
05:39
So, the problem is the current account.
05:41
If your current account bursts,
05:43
then it bursts for two reasons.
05:45
One is that your domestic growth is happening.
05:47
Okay?
05:49
If it is consumption led, then it is a different thing.
05:51
Otherwise, the current account deficit sometimes is good.
05:53
If you are making investments.
05:55
Mr. Khan, didn't you say this at that time?
05:57
This is also today.
05:59
Mr. Miftah,
06:01
whatever you respond to this,
06:03
my last question is related to remittances.
06:05
You have to tell me in that.
06:07
But whatever you are saying,
06:09
give me a chance.
06:11
Okay.
06:13
Mr. Miftah.
06:15
My request is that
06:17
in every matter,
06:19
there are a lot of numbers in the economy.
06:21
In every matter,
06:23
you can find a good thing
06:25
or a bad thing.
06:27
Now,
06:29
obviously, the stock market has gone up.
06:31
It is better.
06:33
There is no doubt about it.
06:35
The 1.5 lakh people who work in the stock market,
06:37
it is better for them.
06:39
Muzammil also used to work at one time.
06:41
But the Pakistanis,
06:43
the 23 crore,
06:45
98 lakh, 50 thousand Pakistanis,
06:47
they have not been affected yet.
06:49
May Allah make the economy work.
06:51
What the Muslim League should do
06:53
is basically,
06:55
it is their government
06:57
to do some reforms.
06:59
Seriously, there are some serious mistakes.
07:01
No one has ever done anything externally.
07:03
When Shahbaz Sahib went to China last time,
07:05
he said, put a train for us.
07:07
Oh brother, you don't have money to eat poison,
07:09
you don't have dollars,
07:11
if you bring a train,
07:13
who will pay 7 billion?
07:15
So, work with a little understanding.
07:17
Don't look at everything as politics.
07:19
But seriously, I think
07:21
we will have to leave these internal fights.
07:23
Ali bhai is liking everything.
07:25
Let's realize the fact that Pakistan
07:27
is stuck in a very wrong place.
07:29
Muzammil bhai, the last question is
07:31
about remittances.
07:33
You have said that remittances should be stopped.
07:35
Along with that,
07:37
in your opinion,
07:39
2025 will be better than 2024 economically.
07:41
Remittances have increased by 33%.
07:43
Even now,
07:45
despite the increase of 33%,
07:47
the number of remittances in 2022
07:49
will come close to that.
07:51
In 2022-2024,
07:53
18 lakh people have left the country.
07:55
So, these increased remittances
07:57
are not some
07:59
great achievement.
08:01
People have left the country.
08:03
And obviously,
08:05
they have to send money home.
08:07
Let me tell you about 2025.
08:09
In 2025,
08:11
the fiscal year,
08:13
our growth this year,
08:15
the trends we are seeing,
08:17
will not be more than 1.5%-2%.
08:19
This means that unemployment,
08:21
productivity growth,
08:23
and poverty
08:25
in the country
08:27
will continue to increase.
08:29
And it will be the same
08:31
as it was in 2024.
08:33
You can say that
08:35
this is the current account.
08:37
That is a different question.
08:39
I am talking about a common man.
08:41
Just like it was painful in 2024,
08:43
even in 2025,
08:45
I don't see any top gear.
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