"Is Main koi Shak Nahi is waqt PTI Maqbool Tareen Jamat Hai..." Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar's Analysis
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"Is Main koi Shak Nahi is waqt PTI Maqbool Tareen Jamat Hai..." Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar's Analysis
"Is Main koi Shak Nahi is waqt PTI Maqbool Tareen Jamat Hai..." Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar's Analysis
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00:00We have been arguing for the past 2-3 days that there should be a way out of this, this is the wrong place.
00:07But the government position, Big Brother is the government.
00:11Big Brother is not the government.
00:15It should be the government.
00:19There should not be a government.
00:21Political parties are not political parties.
00:23Do you see a way out?
00:25Before going into the break, you asked a question about state institutions.
00:31We use the word state.
00:34Whenever we are talking about what the state wants and what the state does not want,
00:39the first thing that should be clarified in this conversation is that Article 7 of the Constitution defines what a state is.
00:52A state is your loyal government, your parliament, your provincial government, your provincial assembly,
00:58or any authority that can impose taxes on local governments.
01:02This is the concept of a state.
01:05The people we are talking about are exiles.
01:08And because of the weakness of us politicians, the debate that is taking place today,
01:12the only desire in this debate is that we get up from here and come here,
01:17and have the same conversation that we used to have after the 2018 elections.
01:21If today we want to engage with the establishment,
01:25and not with the rest of the political parties,
01:28then what is the meaning of this?
01:30The reason for which we got sick.
01:32The reason for which we always have a debate.
01:34The reason for which we got sick,
01:36is that we want to go to the same Attar boy to get medicine.
01:41We politicians want to take this country on the right track.
01:45They have taken it, this is the desire.
01:47Yes.
01:48The people we are talking about are exiles.
01:50The people we are talking about are exiles.
01:52And this is the only desire.
01:54The debate that is taking place today,
01:56the same debate that we used to have 3-4 years ago,
02:00we used to have that debate sitting here.
02:02The government of that time.
02:04I told you during the break that a fascist debate was going to start.
02:07The brother said, this is fascism.
02:09I said, how can you say that?
02:11After two years.
02:13How do you say this?
02:15I'll tell you how.
02:17In the light of two years,
02:19when you crossed the limits.
02:21But I'll take your answer today.
02:23But do you see any headway in this conversation?
02:25Look, what is being imagined as a headway?
02:27There is no doubt that Tariq-e-Insaf
02:29is the most accepted Jamaat in the country at the moment.
02:31The story of Form 45-47,
02:33despite that,
02:35this is the largest majority Jamaat in the parliament.
02:37But despite that,
02:39today the desire is only this much.
02:41So if we really want to get the country out of the crisis,
02:45then to solve this political crisis,
02:47the politicians will have to come to the conclusion
02:49that we will not take the help of the establishment.
02:51We will not come to the government
02:53and we will not destabilize the government.
02:55This is the fundamental problem.
02:57This is the fundamental problem.
02:59I want to clarify this.
03:01The fundamental problem is that the government
03:03that you are telling us to talk to,
03:05if we have to decide on the principles,
03:07then let the tribunals make their own decisions.
03:09They will have the answer that
03:11in four months our government will be gone.
03:13So they say that this is a lose-lose for us.
03:15And for them it's a win-win.
03:17Let me give you an example.
03:19You also know.
03:21We sat on your show and discussed
03:23a year and a half or two years ago.
03:25Tariq-e-Insaf and the government
03:27formed a committee.
03:29Both sat together.
03:31At that time, they did not decide
03:33that we will have elections.
03:35You know the whole matter.
03:37It was then vetoed by Tariq-e-Insaf.
03:39Politicians will find a way whenever they sit.
03:41They should stop looking back.
03:43They should stop wishing.
03:45But now there is a new situation.
03:47Their political survival
03:49is dependent on this.
03:51And those who want to vote
03:53are saying that
03:55whatever you say,
03:57whatever price I have to pay,
03:59I am ready to pay.
04:01Please save our lives from them.
04:03This is their thought.
04:05So there is a need to end this circle.
04:07At least we should reach this conclusion.