"Aj Ka Jalsa Na Honay Say Public view Main PTI ko Dhachka Laga Hai...."Fahad Hussain Analysis

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#OffTheRecord #ImranKhan #PTI #IslamabadJalsa #PTIJalsa #KashifAbbasi #PTIJalsaIslamabad #PTIJalsaLahore #BreakingNews   "Aj Ka Jalsa Na Honay Say Public view Main PTI ko Dhachka Laga Hai...."Fahad Hussain Analysis

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00:00How do we decide which statement is correct and which is propaganda?

00:12How do we first of all look at it?

00:14Look, I think no one has access to this.

00:17This is clear.

00:18So whatever is coming...

00:21We don't have it.

00:22Someone has it.

00:23Yes, I mean, journalists don't have it.

00:25So either whatever is coming is being released with some logic

00:35or people are suppressing it.

00:37Thirdly, there is nothing.

00:39So I think whatever is coming, we have to think about it.

00:44Does it make sense or not?

00:46At best, you can create this sense that

00:49if these things are coming out knowingly, then why are they coming?

00:52And what is the reason for it?

00:54And how should people's opinion-making go in the current environment?

01:01This is what I can see.

01:02And that link is what you were talking about earlier.

01:05That there is a sense that there is more strictness.

01:09And after Faiz Hamid's arrest, there will be an increase in that strictness.

01:13And if fresh information comes out through it

01:17and it comes to the public,

01:19then it will be 100% clear as to where things are going.

01:22Yesterday, I asked a question.

01:25Mr. Tariq Gul did not answer it.

01:27I am sure you will not answer it either.

01:28For a long time, you have been denied NOC.

01:31But you have called off the Jalsa immediately after being denied it.

01:36Yesterday, it was a unanimous decision.

01:38When you said, if it is not there, it will be there.

01:41And the unanimous factor that has changed in the last few days

01:44is that General Faiz was arrested.

01:46Outsiders' view.

01:48What is the change because of which Mr. Tariq Gul has come to fight?

01:51Before this, you were avoiding fighting with Punjab and Islamabad.

01:54One factor is this.

01:56Public sentiment.

01:57No political party can be unaware of the sentiment of its workers.

02:02You have seen today that this is the sentiment of the worker.

02:05You go out, you do the Jalsa, you do the show.

02:07As Mr. Fahad said, show strength.

02:09This is your point on which you have to show your strength.

02:13So it cannot be negated.

02:15As I told you before, this has become a catch-22 situation for PTI leadership.

02:20On the one hand, there is a lot of public sentiment.

02:23After the statement of Ms. Alima Khanam, there will definitely be an increase in it, not a decrease.

02:28So that too the party will have to bear.

02:30And then obviously there are direct instructions from the chairman as well.

02:32So the party will have to walk between the two.

02:34Jalsa on the 8th.

02:36This is my personal opinion.

02:38And this is also my request to the government.

02:40That they should give NOC and make the Jalsa happen.

02:42When is Lahore?

02:43There is no Jalsa in Lahore as well.

02:45There was no date in Lahore as well.

02:46Earlier it was this.

02:47After this, there would have been a date in Lahore.

02:48This Jalsa would have taken place.

02:49Will Lahore come first or Islamabad?

02:51First we will fight with Maryam Nawaz.

02:53First we will fight with Shahbaz Sharif.

02:54Our fight is not with anyone.

02:55What are you doing?

02:56We say that...

02:57It seems that the world is against you.

02:58What are you saying?

02:59It seems that the world is against us.

03:01But despite that, we say that this is our basic democratic right.

03:05Which we should let exercise.

03:07Just like other parties do, let us do the same.

03:09We have told them that we guarantee that there will be complete peace.

03:12And the people who used to say that PTI only talks and does not do anything.

03:16In my opinion, they should be silenced from this step.

03:19That PTI has given the proof of being responsible.

03:24And they did not take this into their own hands.

03:26So...

03:27Wow, what a spin.

03:28That's a good spin.

03:29I like it.

03:30I don't agree with it, but I like it.

03:31You don't agree with it?

03:32If they had not picked up Mr. Khan at night and had not agreed with him.

03:36Then there would have been a fight on the streets.

03:38Let's be honest.

03:39It could have happened on 8th September in Islamabad.

03:41This is happening again.

03:42But it didn't happen.

03:43The point is...

03:44And we are ruined.

03:45That's proven.

03:46We have shown restraint on 25th May.

03:49We have shown restraint even today.

03:51So...

03:52Now I am telling you...

03:53Because I was talking to you earlier.

03:55It has become a non-legal statement that PTI is...

03:58A terrorist group.

03:59It is a terrorist group.

04:00They set fire to government buildings.

04:02Yesterday, Bilal...

04:03That should end now.

04:04What?

04:05No, I am saying...

04:06Look...

04:07In my opinion, PTI...

04:09What is visible today...

04:11It is a very big political shock.

04:14Now, instead of that...

04:16Behind closed doors...

04:18If there has been a give and take in Adiala Jail...

04:20With which Pakistan will benefit tomorrow...

04:23We don't know.

04:24It could be so.

04:25It could be that what Mr. Fawad is saying is correct.

04:27A big confession has been found on 5th July.

04:29But...

04:30It will come when it comes.

04:31Today...

04:32In public view...

04:34In public opinion...

04:35PTI has been shocked.

04:37Its leadership is...

04:38It is under fire.

04:39And its rank...

04:40Has Imran Khan been shocked?

04:41Or has Mr. Imran Khan been shocked?

04:43No.

04:44Imran Khan can't be shocked.

04:45Then PTI can't be shocked.

04:46No.

04:47Don't say leadership.

04:49Till that time...

04:50They were all seat warmers.

04:52Imran Khan's decision making...

04:54Can never be challenged in PTI.

04:56But party as a whole...

04:58If today there was a mobilization...

05:00It would have happened.

05:01And there would have been a big uproar.

05:03Then the party would have benefited.

05:04That will not happen now.

05:06But my personal view is...

05:08Like you said, I agree...

05:09Nothing is fixed.

05:10Nothing can happen to them.

05:12And that is justice.

05:14I am sorry...

05:15Minus Imran Khan...

05:16There is no justice.

05:17We completely agree.

05:21Today when...

05:22Azam Swati was doing a press conference...

05:24After the press conference...

05:25He said...

05:26If I am left out...

05:27I told my brother...

05:28If I am left out...

05:29You tell Mr. Gauhar...

05:30He said...

05:31Enough.

05:32He didn't want to say anything.

05:34Such a big platform...

05:35Politicians don't give you a chance to speak.

05:37Talking to the press...

05:39When you are the news maker.

05:40He said...

05:41Whatever you said...

05:42But how serious...

05:43You also said...

05:44General Faiz can become a serious issue...

05:46For justice.

05:48He can become serious...

05:49Only to the extent of 9th May.

05:52Rest...

05:53If he was advising...

05:54Under the Army Act...

05:56It is their fault.

05:57You can't say anything to justice.

05:59And if you want to link 9th May...

06:01For that...

06:02Linkages and proofs...

06:03Should be very strong.

06:05Do you think that 9th May...

06:06First question...

06:07Is 9th May and General Faiz linked?

06:09It is impossible for me to say.

06:11But...

06:13The way...

06:15We are being given a sense...

06:17That matters are going there.

06:19Now...

06:20Obviously...

06:21Everyone is giving their opinion.

06:23Opinion...

06:24Is not necessarily based on facts.

06:26But...

06:27The very fact that...

06:28Arresting a person like him...

06:31Court-martialing him...

06:34And...

06:35Announcing publicly...

06:37It has happened before...

06:38It happens in silence.

06:39What is the purpose of that?

06:40And to do that now...

06:41Now...

06:42A larger conflict is going on in the country.

06:44In the context of that conflict...

06:46If you read this...

06:48Then...

06:49Faiz Hamid's arrest...

06:50Is directly linked...

06:51With Pakistan's justice policy.

06:53I am just saying this as a clarification.

06:55But what is this?

06:56It can be said that...

06:57His arrest is directly linked...

06:59To make him understand...

07:01But with his not understanding.

07:03If he had understood 3 months ago...

07:05Or 6 months ago...

07:06Then he could have...

07:07Interacted with him in a different way.

07:08Ended his contacts.

07:09Because this came in between.

07:10Many people were told...

07:12That he didn't understand.

07:14If he had understood...

07:15Then it wouldn't have been 9 months.

07:17Then there wouldn't have been any other issue.

07:18Is that also another way of putting it?

07:20In my opinion...

07:22I am reading it in a larger context.

07:24Faiz Hamid...

07:25As an individual...

07:26Whatever he was doing...

07:27He was doing it.

07:28But...

07:29The larger political context...

07:31Which is so complicated...

07:32Which is a conflict in Pakistan's politics...

07:35Within that...

07:36His connection...

07:37That is why...

07:38This issue is blowing up so much.

07:40And if that conflict...

07:42And his connection...

07:43Is not proved...

07:44If that linkage is not connected...

07:45Then why did all this happen?

07:46Then they would have done it silently.

07:48That is why I feel...

07:49That ultimately...

07:50This thing will connect somewhere.

07:53Now how will it connect?

07:54We don't know.

07:55Now this is the tricky bit.

07:56How do you connect it?

07:58Because if...

07:59And if the connection is such...

08:01That everyone feels...

08:02It makes sense.

08:03It has to be transparent.

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