PTI Aur Hukoomat Ke Darmiyan Mazakraat... Rauf Hassan Ne Zair Gardish Khabron Ki Tardeed Kar Di,

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00:00Please tell us about the past and the present.

00:03Has the party gone through a thought process

00:06that has led to the government talking to them?

00:10Because the past statements are very clear.

00:12Who are they? What is their political status?

00:14They are puppets. They have no authority.

00:16What should we talk about?

00:19Mr. Badami, you have given me such a long introduction.

00:23Thank you for tolerating me, sir.

00:25You have given me so many statements.

00:28Look, nothing has changed.

00:30No matter how much you try, nothing has changed.

00:34As far as the substantive component is concerned,

00:39it is still the same as we have said,

00:43that they have nothing to give.

00:46And we used to say this before,

00:49and we still say this today,

00:51that they are dummies.

00:53Their status is not more than a dummy.

00:55They have stolen the elections in the dark of the night

00:58and with 17 seats, 18 seats, 20 seats,

01:01they are heading an illegal and illegal government.

01:05They have brought this country to the brink of destruction.

01:10This country needs political stability.

01:13Now, a few days ago,

01:15on the 26th,

01:18the Prime Minister is now getting the news

01:22that he had personally given instructions

01:26to carry out this operation,

01:29which included bullets.

01:31So, in these circumstances,

01:33it will be very difficult to talk to these people.

01:36But at the same time,

01:38the reality of the nation at the moment is that

01:41the country is surrounded by very serious issues.

01:45And as a political party,

01:48it is the responsibility of all parties,

01:51including Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,

01:53which is Pakistan's largest and most accepted political party,

01:57that if a role can be played,

01:59then it should be played.

02:01I want to clarify two things.

02:03Number one,

02:04no formal conversation has started with the government

02:08so far as you and I are talking.

02:13Okay.

02:14So, the person you are talking to

02:16is Ayaz Sadiq's cousin,

02:20who has passed away.

02:22So, for his condolences,

02:25some of our people have met with Ayaz Sadiq.

02:29No conversation has started.

02:31Let me rephrase it this way,

02:33the meeting that took place today was a coincidence.

02:35So, would it be right to say this?

02:37No, it was not a coincidence.

02:39They had gone to condole.

02:41No, they had gone to condole.

02:43At that time, the people of the government were also present.

02:45So, it was a coincidence.

02:46That's all.

02:47Is it right to say this?

02:48According to my information,

02:50Ayaz Sadiq had said that we will call this person as well.

02:52So, I think he had come.

02:54I will not take his name.

02:56But what I have been told is that

02:58no conversation has started.

03:01So, it is the same thing as it was 10 days ago.

03:04Yes, PGI took a step.

03:09Mr. Imran Khan took this step after the debacle of 2026.

03:13So, he has created a committee in the middle of the night.

03:18He has been doing this for a long time.

03:21You must remember the story of the murder town.

03:23He had also created a committee there.

03:25So, he had created a committee

03:27that you go and talk.

03:29If there is a way out, then take it out.

03:31Now, that committee will form its TORs.

03:34And yesterday he had held a press conference

03:36in which he had clarified a lot of things.

03:39So, let's see what happens in the future.

03:41Noor Sahab, you are a beginner.

03:43You are a beginner.

03:45There is a deadline of 14th.

03:47If there can be a conversation, then do it.

03:49Otherwise, Mr. Khan's call is for 16th.

03:52It is the beginning of the civil disobedience movement.

03:5514th.

03:56When I am talking to you, it is 11th.

03:58If the conversation starts in 72 hours,

04:00then it is okay.

04:01Otherwise, it is civil disobedience.

04:03Yes.

04:04Mr. Khan has already issued a series of instructions.

04:08Right.

04:09Just one clarification.

04:11You said in the beginning that nothing has changed.

04:14No matter how much you try, our statements have not changed.

04:16Sir, this has changed.

04:17You used to consider them dummies yesterday.

04:19You still consider them dummies today.

04:20But yesterday you used to say that

04:21talking to dummies is a waste of time.

04:23Today you say, okay, we can talk.

04:25The best people in the country.

04:26This difference has come, right?

04:28Look, Mr. Wasim.

04:29I am one of those very few people

04:31who have always promoted dialogue.

04:33And it has been said that at the end of the day,

04:35you have solved the problems of the country

04:37by sitting at the table and talking.

04:39With the establishment.

04:40You have also promoted dialogue with the establishment.

04:42You said that what is there after Nawaz Sharif?

04:44He has no authority.

04:45What are you talking about?

04:46Absolutely.

04:47I am absolutely firm on that.

04:49They have nothing.

04:50If they want to make themselves a conduit,

04:53then become one.

04:54That by talking to them,

04:56they have to go there, stand up,

04:58join hands and take permission.

05:00So go and do this.

05:01If they understand their work,

05:03they understand the status,

05:04that by standing hand in hand,

05:05if you want to take permission and move forward,

05:07then do it.

05:08Sir, even today,

05:09when you are so sure

05:10that they have to take permission from them,

05:12in fact, it is amazing today.

05:13At some point in time,

05:14at some point in time,

05:15the interests of the country

05:17should have precedence

05:19over everything else.

05:21And I think that

05:22in the history of Pakistan,

05:23that position has come

05:25that the interests of the country

05:27should be given precedence

05:28over everything else.

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