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Faiz Hameed Ke Maamla Par PTI Khamosh Kyun??? Rauf Hassan Ka Rad-e-Amal
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12/11/2024
Faiz Hameed Ke Maamla Par PTI Khamosh Kyun??? Rauf Hassan Ka Rad-e-Amal
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And on that too, you saw that he says that you have ignored him, he said that there was no such incident,
00:09
otherwise we have shared his details, his identification card, we want to go to his house together.
00:15
At least he has the intention to do his activity so that he can ignore him on this matter.
00:21
Look, Mr. Wasim, 12 martyrs have been confirmed.
00:26
All the details about them have been collected.
00:29
And the remaining missing persons, I will not go into their numbers, but there are a lot of them.
00:36
We are double-triple checking them.
00:38
They are being checked from one person to one house.
00:41
I hope that in the next two or three days, we will publish these final lists with data.
00:48
And we will also give them to the government officials.
00:53
We just don't want any kind of mistake in this.
00:57
Because the information is being collected from different sources.
01:00
And these people are sitting in the government, that if we make even one mistake,
01:05
then on the basis of that, they will ask the entire media to launch a campaign against us.
01:10
So we, I am actually sharing this with you,
01:16
that we will publish these lists after checking and counter-checking it from multiple sources.
01:21
Absolutely right, sir.
01:23
Sir, if you are talking about the judiciary, then let me ask you a simple question.
01:26
I am talking about the superior judiciary at the moment, of course.
01:28
Obviously, it was the judiciary of the past, which was headed by Mr. Faheed Ishaq.
01:32
And Pakistan Jurisdiction said in clear words that we do not trust this individual at all.
01:37
These are our cases, and we do not trust them at all.
01:40
Now, obviously, there has been a change in leadership of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
01:43
Mr. Yaya Afridi is sitting.
01:44
Do you have any confidence today, or are you disappointed with today's superior judiciary or today's Chief Justice?
01:51
Look, there has been a transition.
01:53
And along with the transition, you remember, I think it was in your program or some other program,
01:57
I had welcomed the new Chief Justice.
01:59
And he said that we hope that he will start providing justice according to the requirements of the law.
02:06
Now, let's see.
02:07
These big cases have been filed.
02:08
But that is the Constitutional Bench.
02:10
The way the Constitutional Bench works,
02:13
you know that we have rejected the 26th Constitutional Amendment.
02:17
But despite rejecting it, we have become a member of its Judicial Committee.
02:22
Because that Judicial Committee has to appoint judges.
02:26
And we felt, you know, in the Political Committee, we felt that it is important that the PTI,
02:31
being the largest political party, should play its role.
02:33
So, despite our reservations, we joined it.
02:36
And our entire effort is to convince the judiciary to make decisions according to the law.
02:42
These big cases that have been filed,
02:44
I think when we come to their decisions,
02:47
we do not want to create any doubts.
02:49
But on the basis of those decisions,
02:51
I think we will be able to make up our minds about the judiciary.
02:56
You know, we will have a lead as to where the judiciary is going and how to make our decisions.
03:01
So, whether it is the first court or the second,
03:03
for now, you have to comment on it a little earlier.
03:05
Okay.
03:06
Sir, this civil disobedience, which is now a big announcement,
03:09
you also said that if this new talk starts by the 14th,
03:11
then civil disobedience will start from the 16th.
03:13
Sir, how effective do you think this card will be?
03:16
I mean, for example, you have said,
03:18
you are a Pakistani resident, do not send remittances.
03:20
Secondly, what will be its practical form in Pakistan?
03:23
You will say, do not pay the bill.
03:24
If you do not pay, they will deduct the bill, deduct the electricity.
03:27
Then what?
03:28
I mean, how will this practice put a dent on the government, put pressure?
03:34
Mr. Waseem, the deadlines for this are being finalized.
03:38
I think that by the end of this deadline,
03:42
which is the 14th of December,
03:45
by the 14th of December, I think the deadlines will be finalized.
03:50
And God willing, I will be the first to share this with you.
03:55
You are sure that it will be successful.
03:58
It will not fail like the previous civil disobedience.
04:01
No political party starts a movement
04:04
that does not believe in its success.
04:07
We feel the same.
04:08
Yes, the apparatus that the state has,
04:11
and the way they have demonstrated statehood on the 26th,
04:15
after that anything can happen.
04:16
These people will kill other people.
04:18
When the requirements of the law are met,
04:21
and when justice is not done,
04:23
and when the people are allowed to make decisions according to their whims,
04:33
then I think that the situation cannot be normal.
04:36
The situation cannot be normalized.
04:38
There cannot be political stability.
04:39
So I think that if we are ready to negotiate with them,
04:44
then they will also have to bring a very basic change in their attitude.
04:49
So that it is clearly indicated that they also want political stability in the country
04:55
and are ready to compromise for it.
04:57
Has there been any recent contact with Mr. Maulana?
05:00
Has there been any further action taken together?
05:02
And again, the background of this question is that Mr. Maulana is clearly angry.
05:06
His party thinks that he has been ditched.
05:08
The government had promised to pass a bill.
05:10
He is not accepting it.
05:11
In fact, he has brought the Ulema in front of him.
05:14
So is there any such thought in all this debate
05:17
that we should talk to Mr. Maulana so that further action can be taken together?
05:21
We have a constant contact with Mr. Maulana.
05:24
He is in the Senate as well as in the National Assembly.
05:27
We have sub-committees that operate.
05:30
And through a consultative process, they talk to each other and then decide on matters.
05:36
So that is going on.
05:38
In addition, people keep meeting Mr. Maulana from time to time.
05:42
We have a good relationship with them.
05:44
I know that there is a problem with the Madrasas.
05:46
In that, it is imperative that there is a modus
05:50
on how the registration should be done.
05:53
This matter is dependent on that.
05:55
And you will remember that we had a position in our government as well.
05:58
In 2019.
05:59
Yes, it should be done.
06:01
Registration should be done.
06:02
This is very important.
06:03
So I do not think that we will change our intention at that time.
06:08
But we have had contacts with Mr. Maulana in this regard.
06:11
And let's see how this matter will be handled in the future.
06:13
So in this particular matter, your opinion is the same as it was in 2019,
06:16
in the period of PTI, which is different from Mr. Maulana's opinion.
06:18
On this one particular thing.
06:20
As long as we do not change that opinion through a statement,
06:23
the opinion remains the same.
06:24
As long as it remains the same.
06:25
Yes, it is the same as it was before.
06:27
Sir, towards the end, this matter of Faiz Hamid Sahib is obviously a very big preface.
06:31
Pakistan itself is telling that Mr. Maulana has entered the next phase.
06:35
Field Court Marshal and four sheet frames.
06:38
And I have seen that PTI is telling some people that he is a soldier of the army.
06:42
But sir, now you cannot say this because you can disagree with it.
06:47
But it is written in four sheets and it has been made public.
06:49
That they understand that this has happened with a political party in Connavance.
06:52
And obviously when it is a political party, then it is not about MKO Pakistan.
06:55
It is about PTI.
06:56
When they write that the subject is for political purposes,
06:58
then obviously it is about pro-PTI.
07:00
So what is the response of PTI to all this?
07:03
Look, you are saying that it cannot be about MKO.
07:06
You must know that, I do not know.
07:09
You think it can be about MKO?
07:11
Similarly, I do not know what you are talking about.
07:14
Why should we try to interfere in something that does not concern us?
07:20
The matter is an internal matter of the army.
07:24
And they have instituted this case according to their rules.
07:28
They will take it forward.
07:29
When a finger will be raised on us at some stage,
07:33
when a definitive statement will be made on us at some stage,
07:36
then it will be a more appropriate time for us to respond.
07:39
I do not know which political party you are talking about.
07:41
Let it be clear first.
07:42
Then the political party can answer.
07:43
It can also be about UPMLN.
07:45
Yes, that is right.
07:46
You are saying that if a finger is raised on us,
07:48
I should not raise my hand.
07:49
Okay, fine.
07:51
You have given an innocent answer.
07:54
It is a very innocent answer.
07:56
It was an innocent question.
07:58
It was an innocent answer.
08:00
An extremely innocent answer.
08:01
Thank you very much.
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